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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on May 15, 2023.

Template:HPD

Template:HPD → Template:CPID (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

I've moved {{HPD}} to {{CPID}}, updated the code therein, and updated the template tags correspondingly on all 30-some-odd pages that used it. The remaining few links to HPD are of minimal importance. — Garrett W. {☎ ✍} 06:12, 15 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

English Nation

English Nation → England (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Previous RfDs for this redirect and similar redirects:

Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 January 1 § English nation – speedy keep

Retarget to English people - English nation redirects to the nation (ie. the group of people, not the land). Estar8806 (talk) 01:26, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget per nom. J947 † ^edits 06:33, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Retarget per nom. Veverve (talk) 15:22, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Retarget to English which covers both uses per ongoing discussions relating to "Welsh nation" and "Scottish nation." - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 14:05, 14 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Retarget to English, or to English people?
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Redirects to Mud (disambiguation)

Comparison of MUD clients → Mud (disambiguation)#Gameplay (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
MXP (computing) → Mud (disambiguation)#Gameplay (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
MUSHclient → Mud (disambiguation)#Gameplay (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Not mentioned in target. (Note that the target was now moved to multi-user dungeon.) Either it should be deleted entirely or restored. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 20:16, 7 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget all to Multi-user dungeon#Gameplay - The page got moved around, but the target is still valid and useful. Fieari (talk) 02:27, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Fieari: I should clarify that is what I would do if they remained as-is. But that section does not mention or contain any of these things. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 06:02, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget MUSH and Comparison per Fieari. MUSH is clearly mentioned in the article, and comparison is described in the details. Delete MXP unless explained in the article better.

AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 17:30, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Adolf Rizzler

Adolf Rizzler → List of Generation Z slang#Rizz (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Not mentioned at the target, delete unless a justification can be provided. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 19:26, 7 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It was mentioned in the variations section for the “Rizz” section of the article, unless said mention was removed (I havent checked the article in ages). Feel free to remove the redirect if it is not mentioned. WeaponizingArchitecture | scream at me 19:51, 7 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete no longer useful. 1234qwer 1234qwer 4 19:16, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - readded. - Knightoftheswords281 (Talk · Contribs) 11:37, 14 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Steve?

Steve? → Steve (Minecraft) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

Not clear how the inclusion of a question mark identifies this specific Steve, not included at the target. Delete unless a justification can be provided. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 19:22, 7 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete As overly vague and unnecessary.

ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 06:04, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete vague at best. --Lenticel ^(talk) 07:46, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per this tweet which refers to the Minecraft protagonist, note the question mark: https://twitter.com/notch/status/29566494948 --Ricciardo Best (talk) 08:22, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia is not in the business of making redirects based on the textual contents of every Tweet a creator has made. That opens up a huge Pandora's Box of pointless redirects. It needs to be proven the redirect is somehow relevant in the contents of the article, which it's not. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 09:28, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Unlikely redirect as I doubt users will search terms with a question mark at the end. If kept, this should be redirected to Steve. Pizzaplayer219^Talk_Contribs 15:16, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete not a catchphrase or meme at this point. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 17:20, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Weirdly, that's the character's official name. Paintspot Infez (talk) 18:57, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. The character is literally called "Steve?", with the question mark. HotdogPi 16:41, 9 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
If so, why isn't that mentioned at the target page, which is about said character in toto. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 16:44, 9 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"Alternative Realisms: Subjectivity-production in Novels and Games" is a scholarly RS that, based on GScholar preview, verifies the question mark thing. But I wouldn't be comfortable adding anything about that to the target article without having actually read the relevant part of the dissertation, which isn't available through TWL's ProQuest access. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (she|they|xe) 17:38, 9 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
If that is true, I can compromise at the redirect being moved to Steve? (Minecraft) to make it less ambiguous. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 11:44, 12 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 01:19, 15 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Nikaj-Mërtur

Nikaj-Mërtur → Nikaj (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

WP:XY. Nikaj or Mërtur? or Nikaj-Mërtur region? AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 19:11, 7 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget to Nikaj-Mërtur region which is a plausible target and solves the XY issue. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 20:53, 7 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I am not sure if there is a way to have a double redirect of sorts? When people talk about Nikaj-Mërturi they are talking about the two tribal units of Nikaj and Mërturi that are commonly grouped together; I recently created the pages for both to separate them. If there is no way to have a double redirect then I will probably have to try and find all articles that link to Nikaj-Mërturi and then separate it as Nikaj-Mërturi (if that makes sense). I do not think we should link it to the Nikaj-Mërturi National park, as in most contexts it refers to the tribes themselves. Thanks guys. Botushali (talk) 00:20, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
You might want to consider a set index or a disambiguation. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 17:32, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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+*<span id="Template:HPD">{{no redirect|1 = Template:HPD }}</span> → [[:Template:CPID]] <span>&nbsp;<span class="plainlinks lx">([[Template talk:HPD|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:HPD|links]] <b>·</b> [[Special:PageHistory/Template:HPD|history]] <b>·</b> [[:toolforge:pageviews/?start=2023-04-15&end=2023-05-14&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Template:HPD|stats]])</span></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<small class="plainlinks"><nowiki>[</nowiki>&nbsp;Closure:&nbsp;''{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Template:HPD|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Template:HPD]] closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Template:HPD|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Template:HPD]] closed as retarget}}}} retarget]<span class="sysop-show">/[{{fullurl:Template:HPD|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Template:HPD]] closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]</span>}}''&nbsp;]</small>&nbsp;
+I've moved {{tl|HPD}} to {{tl|CPID}}, updated the code therein, and updated the template tags correspondingly on all 30-some-odd pages that used it. The remaining few links to HPD are of minimal importance. &mdash; <span style="border-bottom:1px solid #666666">'''[[User:Garrettw87|Garrett W.]]''' {[[User_talk:Garrettw87|☎]] [[Special:Contributions/Garrettw87|✍]]}</span> 06:12, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
 ====English Nation====
 *<span id="English Nation">{{no redirect|1 = English Nation }}</span> → [[:England]] <span>&nbsp;<span class="plainlinks lx">([[Talk:English Nation|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:WhatLinksHere/English Nation|links]] <b>·</b> [[Special:PageHistory/English Nation|history]] <b>·</b> [[:toolforge:pageviews/?start=2023-04-08&end=2023-05-07&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=English_Nation|stats]])</span></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<small class="plainlinks"><nowiki>[</nowiki>&nbsp;Closure:&nbsp;''{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:English Nation|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#English Nation]] closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:English Nation|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#English Nation]] closed as retarget}}}} retarget]<span class="sysop-show">/[{{fullurl:English Nation|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#English Nation]] closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]</span>}}''&nbsp;]</small>&nbsp;