Talk:Ocelot

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Unreliable source?

@Attila412 and BhagyaMani: I'm baffled about the claims regarding the Journal of International Wildlife Law & Policy. It's a Taylor & Francis journal, a publisher that while not the poster boy of publishing ethics, has never been accused of being predatory. And all their journals are peer-reviewed, which is trivial to find out [1]. It will require more than "I don't like their mission statement" to label this this source as unreliable. Let's have some evidence please. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 08:58, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for initiating this discussion, Elmidae! See the statement by Taylor & Francis at https://www.tandfonline.com/action/journalInformation?show=aimsScope&journalCode=uwlp20 : Peer Review Policy: All research articles in this journal have undergone rigorous peer review, based on initial editor screening and anonymous refereeing by three anonymous referees. Clearly, Attila412's claim is incorrect. – BhagyaMani (talk) 09:36, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

I have to agree with BhagyaMani; looking through the criteria on the policy page that Atilla points to in support, it's not obvious to me that they are applicable. "Predatory open access journals" are discouraged, but the journal in question is not open access, so that doesn't apply. Since it's peer-reviewed, it doesn't lack "meaningful editorial oversight", either. So we're left with it being "widely considered... extremist" or having some conflict of interest. I can't say that I know enough about this specific journal to definitively rule those out, although they seem rather unlikely. Are there sources that support such claims? If so, perhaps they can be discussed at WP:RSN but otherwise, I'm not seeing it. Anaxial (talk) 10:04, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

Swivelling Feet?

In the last few days I've heard a couple of news/talkshow people mention that ocelots are the only animal (or felid?) that can swivel their feet 180°. I came here hoping to learn more about this feature, but alas! If it's true and if there's a solid source, it seems like it deserves inclusion. I presume this feature is of value in climbing down from trees, but has it got other purposes (sneaking in, confusing pursuers, making dumplings?) as well? Do the offspring of housecat-ocelot pairs inherit this adaptation? Thanks for considering adding this. 46.76.255.114 (talk) 12:16, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

Minecraft

Include Minecraft in the article. The ocelot is one of the mobs in that game! 174.24.104.56 (talk) 03:29, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

That doesn't seem a sufficiently notable fact about ocelots as a species for it to be included at this page, although it may well be suitable for the Minecraft article if it's a really notable fact about the game. Which it may or may not be; I don't know, but I'd suggest that that would be a better place to ask. Anaxial (talk) 06:45, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

Misattribution of Pucheran specimen

In the article, the ocelot described by Pucheran as the type specimen for Felis albescens is attributed to the locality "Brownsville, Texas," citing the source "Pucheran, J. (1855). "Description du chat bai et du chat albescent; et remarques sur les caractères et sur la distribution géographique de plusieurs autre chats (Description of bay cat and albescent cat; and remarks on the characters and the geographic distribution of several other cats)". In Geoffroy St.-Hilaire, I. (ed.). Voyage autour du Monde sur la Frégate la Vénus commandée par Abel du Petit-Thouars. Zoologie. Mammifères [Travel around the World on the Frigate Venus commanded by Abel du Petit-Thouars. Zoology. Mammals] (in French). Paris: G & J. Baudry. pp. 137–155."

Nonetheless, this source directly attributes the specimen to Arkansas (page 149). Though "Arkansas" may refer to a broader area than currently encompassed by the modern U.S. state, this location could by no means be confused with Brownsville, Texas. This record is obviously of a northern specimen and representative of a key extirpated population far in the north of the species' historic range. This error should be corrected and the record should receive proper analysis and representation in the literature surrounding the species. Kowalske (talk) 02:38, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

Ocelot in the United States of America

There are less than 120 ocelot in Eastern Texas. There is a move to translocate some Mexican ocelot to renew the USA group. There is a political roadblock but the landowners support it. 108.7.229.85 (talk) 01:21, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

If you have a reliable and independent source with this information, please proceed to update the article, or post a request here with the source and what text you'd like added or changed. - UtherSRG (talk) 19:25, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

Ocelot predators.

There needs to be a sources for coyotes preying on wildcats similar in size of it. I doubt a coyote would go after an ocelot. 47.197.29.147 (talk) 00:49, 2 November 2023 (UTC)