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Adding tashkeel (diacritical marks) to make the motto more clear and concise [[User:Mododge16|Mododge16]] ([[User talk:Mododge16|talk]]) 01:45, 7 January 2024 (UTC) |
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In the infobox section, more specifically government, add “one party state”, seeing as the Taliban (the ruling party of Afghanistan) has banned all political parties leaving only it the legal party of Afghanistan. |
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Source to support my claim: [https://www.rferl.org/amp/aghanistan-taliban-bans-political-parties/32552632.html] [[User:TheLibyanGuy|TheLibyanGuy]] ([[User talk:TheLibyanGuy|talk]]) 22:28, 11 January 2024 (UTC) |
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Opium production
@25stargeneral Wanted to bring this up again. If you recall I did a similar post here a while back, and it seems an official U.N report has given data for opium production now. [1]
"According to the Afghanistan Opium Survey 2023, released by the agency on Sunday, the supply of opium declined by an estimated 95 per cent, falling from 6,200 tons in 2022 to 333 tons in 2023, corresponding to a fall in the area under cultivation, from 233,000 hectares to just 10,800 hectares over the same period."
This would drop it from its position as the first opium producer in the world, putting Myanmar at first. (per these showing what Myanmar produced) [2] [3]
"In 2022, the area under opium poppy cultivation in Myanmar was estimated at 40,100 hectares. This estimate is 33 per cent – about 10,000 hectares – more than in 2021, reversing the downward trend that started in 2014." [4]
National potential opium production in 2022 was estimated to be about 790 metric tonnes. Though this estimate is still below a recent peak in 2013 of 870 metric tonnes, it is nearly double the estimates for 2020 of around 400 metric tonnes, which represented the nadir of a recent historic downward trend. [5] Noorullah (talk) 06:01, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
- Al Jazeera also states:
- "Afghanistan was previously the world’s top opium producer – responsible for over 80 percent of global supply – and a major source of heroin in Europe and Asia." [6] Noorullah (talk) 06:02, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
Please change Afghanistan etymology, the sanskrit origin theory is obsolete, plus earliest sources about the term Afghan are Sassanid and Bactrian
Borrowed from Classical Persian افغان (afğān, “Afghan”), from Bactrian αβαγανο (abagano), first attested in the fourth century CE, most likely a compound of *apāka- (“distant, faraway”), from Proto-Iranian *Hapá, from Proto-Indo-Iranian *Hapá (“away”), from Proto-Indo-European *h₂epó + *-āna (“ethnic group”), from Proto-Indo-European *-nós, thus: "people from a distant land". Various scholars have proposed Sanskrit etymologies since the nineteenth century (especially prior to the 2007 publication of earlier Bactrian attestations for the word), but linguist Johnny Cheung notes that these are "extremely difficult to reconcile" with recent evidence pointing to a Bactrian source.
Johnny Cheung (2017), “On the Origin of the Terms "Afghan" & "Pashtun" (Again)”, in Enrico Morano, Elio Provasi & Adriano V. Rossi, editors, , Rome, Italy: Scienze e Lettere, →ISBN, pages 31—51 37.65.8.47 (talk) 23:20, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
Why is Afghanistan at the border of Central Asia and South Asia but not the Middle East/West Asia also ?
De facto Afghanistan got many links to the Middle East both historically, culturally and geographically. I think it's fair to say Afghanistan is at the crossroads of West Asia, Central Asia and South Asia. All three, not just Central Asia and South Asia. 2A02:8428:809E:6701:F0D7:5A73:115E:BA24 (talk) 15:22, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
- It all depends on what sources you look at and how logical your thought process is.
- Afghanistan is considered a middle eastern country by some sources, a west Asian, central asian, and/or south Asian country by many other sources. However, the majority of sources include it in both South and Central Asia.
- You’d be correct to think that Afghanistan is at the crossroads of West, Central, South, and East Asia, but it’s better to see where the country is geographically located in by the majority of sources.
- Take China for example. It’s commonly referred to as an East Asian country by the majority of sources. However, some other sources include the western portions of China in Central Asia. Does that mean China is both Central AND East Asian? Logically yes, but the way most sources put it, no. WikiAmerican1 (talk) 20:27, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
- The problem is that academic sources are often corrupted I know it's the most easy answer I could get but politics and biased cultural and religious views shape most academic results I've seen in my life. Particularly in geography and geopolitics. An example is the definition of Europe as a continent, it was total nonsense throughout this last 2 to 3 centuries, it has been constantly changing and expanding.
- I see what you meant with China, but for Afghanistan the middle eastern influence is everywhere, while South Asian would be limited to its eastern side and Central asian to its northern and Central parts. And geologically Afghanistan got no link whatsoever with Indian subcontinent.
- And the saddest thing above all is that for Afghanistan it's foreign power and particularly USA for the last decades who always decided its fate, even in academic talks. 2A02:8428:809E:6701:E4ED:5B5E:1EEB:E8EB (talk) 18:57, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, I don’t make the rules. Afghanistan is very Iranic in a sense, but geographically it’s seen as both a south and central Asian country in general. Some sources include it in west Asia because it’s neither on the Indian subcontinent nor was it ever part of Soviet Central Asia.
- South Asia is sometimes used synonymously with “Indian subcontinent”, but other definitions say South Asia is the Indian subcontinent AND surrounding countries, including Afghanistan and even Iran.
- It’s all purely political at this point. There’s no universally agreed upon subregion in which Afghanistan and Iran belong to. Iran is not 100% west Asian, and Afghanistan is not 100% central or south Asian. WikiAmerican1 (talk) 03:11, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
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104.171.248.240 (talk) 15:04, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
Please correct the Afghan Flag on this page. Wikipedia supposed to be a reliable source of information, not fake news. That shown flag does not represent 45+ million Afghans. It represent only %1 of the people living on the land.
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Deltaspace42 (talk • contribs) 15:08, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- I believe this is the flag that he is referring to - https://www.britannica.com/place/Afghanistan WikiAmerican1 (talk) 02:53, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
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In the infobox section, more specifically government, add “one party state”, seeing as the Taliban (the ruling party of Afghanistan) has banned all political parties leaving only it the legal party of Afghanistan.
Source to support my claim: [7] TheLibyanGuy (talk) 22:28, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
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