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:Thank you so much for bringing this to my attention, because, admittedly, I completely forgot about DYK. I would love to nominate it, if it's not too much trouble. [[User:Pokelego999|Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999]] ([[User talk:Pokelego999#top|talk]]) 19:48, 7 March 2024 (UTC) |
:Thank you so much for bringing this to my attention, because, admittedly, I completely forgot about DYK. I would love to nominate it, if it's not too much trouble. [[User:Pokelego999|Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999]] ([[User talk:Pokelego999#top|talk]]) 19:48, 7 March 2024 (UTC) |
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::By all means, go for it. Congrats on your first DYK nomination! [[User:Sparkl|<span style="color: #F6F020;background-color: #A06C23;padding: 1px 4px 2px 3px">'''''Sparkl'''''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Sparkl|<span style="color: #F6F020;background-color: #D59C4B;padding: 1px 3px 2px 3px">''talk''</span>]]</sup> 20:18, 7 March 2024 (UTC) |
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November 2021
Hello, I'm Serols. I wanted to let you know that I reverted one of your recent contributions—specifically this edit to Trio, South Carolina—because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Help desk. Thanks. Serols (talk) 18:56, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
Alright Serols. I just put that there to hopefully draw some attention to Trio, as I feel it deserves some more information on its page, that I wouldn't know where to start on obtaining. I understand it wasn't very constructive, so sorry if I caused you inconvenience via this maneuver.
Area Zero
Would you mind if I provided a little assistance in developing your draft for Area Zero? QuicoleJR (talk) 20:21, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
- I'd be happy to have some help. What are you proposing? Pokelego999 (talk) 21:39, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
- Mainly copyediting, maybe adding a source or two. QuicoleJR (talk) 22:49, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
- Sure, go ahead, though do tell me what you change. Pokelego999 (talk) 23:04, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
- Mainly copyediting, maybe adding a source or two. QuicoleJR (talk) 22:49, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
AFDs
Hello, Pokelego999,
Please do not ever nominate this many articles for deletion consideration all at once ever again. It's not fair to other editors who participate in AFDs to have so many articles to evaluate and review over the course of one week. Editors have a limited amount of time to spend on the project and participating in even one AFD discussion often involves a signficant amount of time to do research. And there is no reason to have dozens of articles nominated at once instead of nominating a few every day. Please consider withdrawing some of these nominations so that they can be reviewed properly at some point in the future.
What I foresee happening with these discussions is that they will be relisted two or three times because no one has commented in them and then they are closed as Keep because of a lack of participation. This is an error on your part that I hope you don't repeat. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 06:55, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Liz,
- Thank you for being very honest with me on this. I'm relatively new to nominating articles for deletion, and thus I wished to nominate a lot of articles I considered particularly lacking in notability. However, you are very much correct in that I nominated too many at once. It was highly irresponsible of me to do that, and a waste valuable time. I didn't take into account the time people would have to spend on this. I'll take your advice and see if I can withdraw some of them. I'll probably put them up again in the future, but not anytime soon, given everything that's happened. I'm really sorry about the mess I've caused, and I've definitely learned what not to do in the future. I'll do my best not to make a repeat of what happened for the future. Pokelego999 (talk) 17:06, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
- I see you decided to withdraw some of your nominations. Just for future editing, always put the title of the article over the closure decision and underneath the archive notice. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Blinovitch Limitation Effect (2nd nomination) for the correction I made. Don't worry, editors who don't close discussions often always make this same mistake. Thanks! Liz Read! Talk! 04:26, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
- Ah, my apologies. Thanks for letting me know. Pokelego999 (talk) 13:05, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
- I see you decided to withdraw some of your nominations. Just for future editing, always put the title of the article over the closure decision and underneath the archive notice. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Blinovitch Limitation Effect (2nd nomination) for the correction I made. Don't worry, editors who don't close discussions often always make this same mistake. Thanks! Liz Read! Talk! 04:26, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
- Pokelego999, I want to thank you for your efforts to clean up those low quality articles - something that User:Liz forgot to do (sadly, Wikipedians have a tendency to point out faults but not praise one's helpful edits). She is right, of course, that we should avoid swamping topical AfDs - we need to give people time to deal with the nominations. As someone who has been AfDing similar article for years, I'd say that an average of one per day is good, although I've certainly nominated ~5 or so articles in a given category in a single day often enough (but then I waited few more days to do so again). I hope you'll restore all the articles you've withdrawn as new discussions over the next few weeks, and continue your efforts to clean up WP:FANCRUFT. One final best practice - please consider commenting in related AfDs in addition to nominating. Watchlisting pages like Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Fictional elements is something I'd recomment too. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:03, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
- @Piotrus Indeed. I intend on nominating some of my withdrawals when I have access to my computer once again, though at a much more reasonable level than my nomination swamp.
- As for commenting, I admittedly needed to do that more, but I lost computer access partway through my nominations before I could add anything further to a lot of discussions I should've piped into. It's incredibly annoying trying to find a way to edit AfD pages on mobile, and I hadn't found a way for quite some time (Still need to test a method myself.) I intend on doing commenting far more once I can get back to my computer again.
- Thanks for the thanks, though I still really should have done it in a far cleaner way back then. More importantly, thank you for the advice, mate. Combined with the other advice I've received since, I intend not to make a repeat of this kind of trouble in the future. Thank you again. Pokelego999 (talk) 20:31, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
- Editing on mobile is a major paint, take your time and I hope you get yuour computer working soon. FYI, in the past, I got into minor trouble too for nominating too much, too quickly, but I learned how to balance stuff. Btw, if you are not, I recommend using WP:TWINKLE for deletions (and prods), it's very useful with a log feature, pop up menus, etc. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:53, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
- @Piotrus I've been using TWINKLE. Very handy system, I can't imagine doing it any other way. Pokelego999 (talk) 13:16, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
- I did use copy and paste before discovering Twinkle. Still useful for advanced rationales so I don't have to retype them... User:Piotrus/Templates. I keep forgetting to add more (for the lists...). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:27, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
- @Piotrus I've been using TWINKLE. Very handy system, I can't imagine doing it any other way. Pokelego999 (talk) 13:16, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
- Editing on mobile is a major paint, take your time and I hope you get yuour computer working soon. FYI, in the past, I got into minor trouble too for nominating too much, too quickly, but I learned how to balance stuff. Btw, if you are not, I recommend using WP:TWINKLE for deletions (and prods), it's very useful with a log feature, pop up menus, etc. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:53, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
Snorlax AfD
Thank you by the way for at least understanding what I was trying to do with the Snorlax AfD: I still think a lot of the sources may fall into WP:TRIVIA or be too weak, but there's at least some arguments that popped up in there that can be used to help support it against a more aggressive application of the Pokemon Test by any other editor down the road. That was my biggest concern, especially after things were leaning towards merge in that List of Pokemon talk page discussion.-- Kung Fu Man (talk) 02:53, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
- Oh yeah I definitely get why you nominated it. Out of the articles we were discussing in the List of Pokemon article, Snorlax was definitely among the weakest. I don't blame you for starting a discussion, because if left alone I could definitely see it coming under scrutiny in the future. I definitely understand your thoughts on the sources as well, as quite a few were very iffy on their own. In any case though, as you said, there are some proper arguments for keeping this article around in the case of a future discussion about it, and hopefully should prevent it from coming under heavy fire in the future.
- Speaking of, though, this is reminding me that I really do need to get back to my source deep dives for a few of the articles, namely Cubone, Psyduck, Pichu, and Greninja. I'd argue Greninja should stick around and Pichu is a bit iffy, but in any case, my main concerns lie with Psyduck and Cubone, so I'll see if I can't find some sources for them beyond what's in the article within the next few days. Thanks for reaching out, and best of luck with your endeavors on the site, because man you do some impressively cool stuff around here. Have a good one man. Pokelego999 (talk) 03:23, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
Sourcing and notability on lists of Pokémon by generation (e.g., List of generation I Pokémon
Hello Pokelego999,
The lists of Pokémon by generation articles contain a large volume of information in the 'notes' column which appears to not be sourced and/or below the threshold for notability due to being detailed in-universe information.
I have opened a discussion in the teahouse before making any changes to avoid edit wars and agree on the appropriate actions for these articles. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Teahouse#Notes_in_the_lists_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_by_generation_(e.g.,_List_of_generation_I_Pok%C3%A9mon) [which will likely be included in archive 1198 if this link is no longer active].
As you are one of the people who has contributed strongly to these articles over the years (see https://xtools.wmcloud.org/authorship/en.wikipedia.org/List_of_generation_I_Pok%C3%A9mon , https://xtools.wmcloud.org/authorship/en.wikipedia.org/List_of_generation_II_Pok%C3%A9mon , etc. which list you amongst the top authors of these pages' content), I want to keep you informed so that there is a consensus for any significant changes to these page moving forwards.
Best regards, Shazback (talk) 16:38, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
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Robert McClenon (talk) 07:55, 20 November 2023 (UTC)RE: Chansey
I'll be honest, I dug pretty hard to try and find references, and the only one I could was that GamesRadar one. It's a case of the character is definitely *known* about, but finding discussion on its design is more difficult. I don't know if it has the same notoriety Snorlax did to keep it afloat.
You *might* be able to get more out of a gameplay discussion though: Chansey's one of the few that had a competitive impact beyond the first game, with Eviolite pushing it up again in later generations. The kicker is a lot of the articles discussing that aspect are going to be Valnet it seems so your mileage may vary there. Kung Fu Man (talk) 18:06, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
- To begin, thank you for the edits on the article. I greatly appreciate it and the comment you've left here. As for Chansey's sourcing, discussion on Chansey's design was annoying to find, and I definitely agree that it's weaker than stuff like Snorlax. I did take a leaf through the competitive side of things, and as you said, it's basically all listicles and the like from the usual suspects (CBR, TheGamer, etc) which certainly aren't horrible, but I feel tacking on too many sources like that degrades the quality a fair amount, especially when most of them amounted to "This is how Chansey acts in comp" with very little significant discussion otherwise. I also found some GO sources discussing how it was a popular Gym Defender in game, but there wasn't really much beyond that. Definitely might be something worth adding, but the sources for it are weaker than I'd like. The strongest example I could find was this: The 15 Best Competitive Kanto Pokemon (thegamer.com)
- As a whole, while it's certainly not Snorlax, I do feel Chansey meets a level of real-world notability from the Fukushima sources and the book source, and in conjunction with the other sources there, I feel it squeaks past general notability, but I can see arguments either way. Pokelego999 (talk) 20:30, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
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Wow
Way to think you could get the Fox McCloud article deleted...Eh, points for gumption, I guess. Americanfreedom (talk) 14:37, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
- When I did my source search, Fox appeared to have little to nothing about him, similarly to Falco. I'm still not feeling that it's at its strongest, but in any case, I really don't see the need to try and make witty remarks on my profile about it. If you believed Fox had something worth keeping prior to my withdrawal, then that would have been a comment for the AfD discussion, not here. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 18:18, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
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Need help with adding new information and citations for my first article.
I suck at citations, and I want help to make an article for shiny pokemon, I will try to add my own image but I need to find the perfect image because the zubat one only says what the original zubat looks like; not showing what it looks like. The article is here: Draft:Shiny Pokémon Toketaatalk 16:48, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- In terms of citing information, you'll need to find something that shows Shiny Pokemon are a notable topic. It needs to show a significant, real-world impact, or at the very least needs some significant commentary to show how it extends beyond the game. Avoid promotional materials and primary sources outside of verification of in-universe information, and use those only when you have to. Make sure your sources are reliable and have something to say, and avoid trivial mentions, which basically are cases where an article only really mentions the subject for like a sentence in a wider article. My usual method of doing so is to do three things
- Check News for sources. For a subject like Shiny Pokemon, there's bound to be a lot of stuff talking about them because of their frequent usage in events. While I can't speak for notability, there's probably some stuff in there discussing them, but it'll take a lot of sifting. Use this to determine source reliability: Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Sources. Also take care not to use too many Valnet sources (TheGamer tends to be reliable, but avoid using too many of their articles. Screen/Game Rant and CBR, among others, also tend to be very weak sources that shouldn't be used in bulk.)
- Check Books for sources. Avoid primary sources where possible since they don't give significant commentary.
- Check Scholar for sources. Use common sense if you find something discussing them, as some scholar sources aren't inherently reliable and should be avoided.
- As for the current article, what I'd suggest doing is this format:
- Do your lead, then transition into a basic in universe description of what Shinies are. A lot of your current info is good for that, but I won't go into that too much right now since this would make this way longer as a message. I will say that right now, it's a bit disorganized. I'd also avoid a list of "notable" Shiny Pokemon unless a specific one has garnered specific attention (I'd imagine something like the Red Gyarados might be a good example, since it's a required story event and battle in a highly iconic video game) Either way, I'd avoid bloat on that when possible.
- I'd then suggest going into a Reception section afterwards. For this, you'll need a decently large amount of the sources discussed above. I'd definitely suggest using a bunch of the reliable sources discussed in the hyperlinked article above as your primary bits, and anything beyond that, like books or scholar, helps boost your Reception a fair amount. You need to show with the Reception there's actual discussion/impact, so focus on whatever commentary an article has. Avoid overly long quotes, use them when you feel fit, but prioritize paraphrasing. I can't really give much more advice on Reception until I see a section or collection of sources, I'm afraid, so it's up to you from here. I can help look if you need me to, but I do feel like giving it a try yourself first would help build experience with this kind of thing.
- I believe I've covered pretty much everything, but I may have missed something/explained something poorly, so let me know if you need elaboration or have any questions on anything. Good luck with the article! Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 18:24, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- To be honest, I don't know how it impacted the real world... Damn... I am still going to add the image and replace the old image. Toketaatalk 18:50, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- You can't really be certain of how until you look into the sources. It's all about the research into a subject. It may or may not pass notability thresholds, but you won't know until you take a deep dive into what sources exist. As for the image, don't add it to the article until you are properly mainspacing your page, otherwise you're at risk of running into copyright violations. If you intend to replace the image at Gameplay of Pokémon, then that should be fine. Just make sure you fill out all the necessary fields in the image uploading process. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 19:20, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- To be honest, I don't know how it impacted the real world... Damn... I am still going to add the image and replace the old image. Toketaatalk 18:50, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
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Your GA nomination of Ash Ketchum
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Signature
Hello, Pokelego999,
I saw your comments on an AFD I was reviewing and it was hard to tell whether part of your signature was meant to be included in the comment you were making. Plus, I have no clue what your extended signature is supposed to say or mean, is it some kind of inside joke? Signatures are not supposed to be distracting and so I'd like to ask you to return to just your username with a link to your User talk page. Please consider this request or try to experiment with other varieties of signatures that are more straight-forward and less confusing. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 07:03, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
- I'm a bit confused on how it's meant to be distracting. Is it somehow inhibiting users from typing because of length? I'm just not quite understanding what you mean by distracting.
- Either way, I'll change it when I'm home. I'm still not too familiar with how to alter my signature, and this was sort of just a fun way of customizing it. I still don't quite grasp how it's meant to interfere with anything beyond being a silly gag, but if it's negatively affecting even one editor, I'll still change it regardless. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 13:07, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Ash Ketchum
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King K. Rool new AfD
Hi Pokelego999, a deletion review for King K. Rool was conducted at the request of an editor. The consensus was that the original debate was correctly closed, however there is potential new information to consider. As a participant in the original AfD, I invite you to participate in the new AfD if you would like. The new AfD is located at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/King K. Rool (2nd nomination); please also see my comments at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2024 February 19. Cheers, Daniel (talk) 23:29, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
Ash Ketchum DYK
Hi there, and nice work bringing the Ash Ketchum article to GA! I'm just letting you know that I was about to nominate it for DYK with the hook:
- ... that Ash Ketchum has been the protagonist of the Pokémon anime series for over 25 years? [1][2]
but since you haven't made any DYK nominations yet (at least according to this checker), I've decided to ask if you wanted to make this your first DYK nomination. It is a pretty important article after all, and I felt bad nominating an article I haven't worked on at all. Sparkltalk 19:21, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you so much for bringing this to my attention, because, admittedly, I completely forgot about DYK. I would love to nominate it, if it's not too much trouble. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 19:48, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- By all means, go for it. Congrats on your first DYK nomination! Sparkltalk 20:18, 7 March 2024 (UTC)