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@[[User:Lades2222|Lades2222]] Hi, I am from Albania and I have seen than you edit some articles about visa requirements and visa policy. I have seen that you last edited Visa requirements for Albanian citizens and I want to ask you can you update Russia in light green and Sudan in light yellow in Visa requirements for Albanian citizens map as Russia requires an eVisa for Albanian citizens while Sudan requires a travel permit which is mentioned in yellow in the visa requirements sections. Today, Sudan was mentioned as "travel permit required" in yellow in Visa requirements countries for Albanian citizens, but I don't know why it was again changed as "visa required". Please make these updates on this map. Thanks [[User:Jonipiri|Jonipiri]] ([[User talk:Jonipiri|talk]]) 16:03, 13 March 2024 (UTC) |
Revision as of 16:03, 13 March 2024
Renaming of the Visa requirements for German citizens and Visa requirements for French citizens articles
Dear Lades2222,
I opened a move discussion here, because I think that new names for those articles may be appropriate as they now include non-visa travel requirements like vaccination requirements, passport requirements and entry bans as well as biometrics.
I am coming to you, as a respected editor of visa requirements articles, and I would like to have your opionin about it. Do you think this move is appropriate? And, if yes, how should to articles be renamed?
You can answer on the move discussion page.
Thank you in advance,
Thearones (talk) 10:13, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Hello, of course it's good to discuss here.
- Mm.. for now.. I won't be making any major changes to Germany and France.
- I think I'll just fix small phrases and spacing for the time being.
- And thank you for complimenting me. Lades2222 (talk) 11:31, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- [Visa requirements map]
- I looked at the wording in this section.
- I know you put a lot of effort into these areas, but... the map guidance and links are lengthy.
- "Map of jurisdictions by visa requirement for French citizens holding ordinary passports and traveling by air."
- --> I think it's better to leave out "by air" here.
- When including this phrase, we have to add "by land" or "by ship" etc.
- If that happens, we might have to re-examine the whole "visa required" section. This is complicated.
- It is better to think of visa requirements as a whole, leaving out "by air."
- And eTA, esta, e-voa, ease... I don't think there is a need to list the many types one by one.
- In fact... ease, esta, eTA, etc. are offshoots of ETA, and e-voa, etc. can actually be classified as e-visa.
- Moreover, "tourist card required in advance" is... hmm...!
- For everyone's readability, we need to organize only the essentials.
- I hope you express it a little more simply. Lades2222 (talk) 14:32, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Dear Lades2222,
- I agree with you that the title and legend are too long and complicated. However I think that it is necessary to include somewhere that, for example, the cuban tourist card (which must be obtained prior to arrival) is shown as "visa on arrival" and that some ETAs are shown as "visa not required" and other as "eVisa", standards that the non-specialist reader may not be aware of. I will move all those special cases and exceptions to inline notes in order to lighten to legend while keeping the map accurate. Thearones (talk) 07:20, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- That's good idea. i agree. Lades2222 (talk) 08:03, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Your ideas are so exquisite that they encompass all our intentions.
- I salute you for this idea. Lades2222 (talk) 08:15, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
- Dear Lades2222,
- Thank you for your answer. It seems that the consensus currently is not to rename the articles and it most likely makes sense to keep them consistent with all other "Visa requirements" articles. Thearones (talk) 07:08, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
Visa policy of Russia
Hello.
Please pay attention to the following information:
1. Georgia. Visa-free regime for all types of passports is under the presidential decree from 15 May 2023. (See "Agreements" - "Unilateral visa waiver") The visa policy map for diplomatic and service passports does not contain this information.
2. Monaco. Visa-free regime for diplomatic passports is under the presidential decree from 3 September 2017. It has not been canceled. (See "Agreements" - "Unilateral visa waiver") The visa policy map for diplomatic and service passports does not contain this information.
3. Hungary. The Russian government has suspended part of the agreement on visa-free travel. Holders of diplomatic passports need a visa from 1 March 2023. Visa-free regime is still applied for holders of service passports.
http://publication.pravo.gov.ru/document/0001202303020026
4. Croatia. The visa free regime for all types of passports was in force until 2013. (Under the agreement between USSR and Yugoslavia).
The current agreement was signed in 2010 and entered into force in 2013. Visa-free regime for holders of diplomatic and service passports.
Croatia joined the EU in 2013. The agreement on visa-free for holders of diplomatic passports between Russia and the EU began to apply to Croatian citizens in 2013. The visa-free regime for diplomatic passports was regulated by two agreements (Russia-EU and Russia-Croatia).
The current bilateral agreement was amended in 2019. The article on visa-free regime for holders of diplomatic and service passports has been replaced by an article on visa-free regime only for holders of service passports.
From 2019 visa free for diplomatic passport under the agreement Russia-EU and for service passport under the agreement Russia-Croatia. The Russia-EU agreement was suspended in 2022. The Russia-Croatia agreement is still in force.
I will change the information in the table.
5. Iraq. Visa free for diplomatic and service passports will be in force from 23 January 2024.
6. Andorra. The visa-free agreement for all types of passports still applies.
7. Vatican, Bulgaria and North Macedonia. There is no reliable information.
8. The main map. Transnistrian passport holders do not have visa-free entry to Russia.
Thank you. With kind regards. Amitaabha (talk) 00:34, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
- Hello.
- 1. In the case of Monaco, Monaco has unilaterally granted exemption to Russians.
- 2. The districts and maps of Hungary and Bulgaria have already been modified. So let's not comment on these.
- 3. MM.. Because Andorra already has a visa exemption.. I don't know what the problem is.
- 4. I'll not comment about Iraq because it has nothing to do with its editing for Iraq. :)
- 5. There is a (conditional) immunity agreement between North Macedonia and Russia, but North Macedonia stopped providing immunity to Russians after the Ukraine war.
- 6. In the case of Georgia and Transnistria, this is the part I missed. I'm going to edit the map.
- 7. For other agreements or waivers, please see the following links:
- https://www.kdmid.ru/info-for-traveling-abroad/reference-information-for-traveling-abroad/list-of-countries-with-simplified-entry/
- https://www.mfa.gov.mk/en/page/31/do-you-need-a-visa
- Thank you. With kind regards. Lades2222 (talk) 04:12, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
- Monaco. "Monaco has unilaterally granted exemption to Russians." We are talking about Russia's visa policy. Russia provides visa-free entry for holders of diplomatic passports of Monaco from 3 September 2017 to the present. You deleted this information and changed the map. Why?
- I don't speak English. I use a translator. This may distort the meaning. Sorry about that. Amitaabha (talk) 11:55, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
- Croatia. "The agreement was revised in 2019. However, that does not mean that the diplomatic passport exemption itself has disappeared." This literally means that the exemption from the diplomatic passport itself has disappeared from this agreement. I don't understand why you don't understand. Could you please explain your logic to me. Amitaabha (talk) 12:06, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
- So I gave you a link. This information was provided by the Russian consulate website. Find and read about Monaco and Croatia there.
- According to the site, "For Russian citizens – within 180 days and without visa for up to 90 days – unilaterally." It written.
- And 2019 was a time of few diplomatic problems between Russia and Croatia.
- But the regular diplomatic passport was 'removed' and only the official passport remained? It doesn't make sense in common sense.
- And in the revised law, there is no mention of the abolition of 'diplomat passports'.
- (Of course, diplomatic passport was 'suspended' after the Ukraine War. (not removed))
- This article was written based on information provided by the Russian consulate website.
- So please don't complaining to me and contact the Russian MFA (or embassy). Lades2222 (talk) 13:12, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
- Croatia. "The agreement was revised in 2019. However, that does not mean that the diplomatic passport exemption itself has disappeared." This literally means that the exemption from the diplomatic passport itself has disappeared from this agreement. I don't understand why you don't understand. Could you please explain your logic to me. Amitaabha (talk) 12:06, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
CS1 error on Visa requirements for Saudi citizens
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- I'm really sorry. I will be more careful with editing. Lades2222 (talk) 02:22, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
Notice of discussion at WP:ANI
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Fridrik2222 and Lades2222. The discussion is about your interaction with Fridrik2222. Thank you. Philipnelson99 (talk) 02:52, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
Artsakh
Can you write please to the administrators so that they can delete the page: ,,Visa policy of Artsakh” ? Artsakh does not exist since on 1 January 2024. And it is advisable to remove Artsakh from all articles called: ,,Visa requirements for … citizens”. Thank you. Fridrik2222 (talk) 11:27, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
the visa requirement of Turks and Caicos Islands
Your edit regarding the visa requirement of Turks and Caicos Islands was reverted from the article of Visa requirements for Russian citizens. Please note that the previous reference was a dead link, which is why I updated it with a valid reference. Additionally, another site provided updated notes about the requirement. Please refer to that site for further information.
2607:FEA8:BADF:6DB0:B893:1C49:9642:E5A5 (talk) 16:22, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
Visa requirements for Kosovar citizens
- On the website where visas for Djibouti are issued, when you try to apply for an e-visa, when you try to enter your country's passport, there is no Kosovo on the list: https://www.evisa.gouv.dj/
- On the website where visas are issued for travel to DR Congo, when you try to register and apply for an e-visa, Kosovo is not listed: https://evisa.gouv.cd/register
- The same applies to Burundi: https://migration.gov.bi/Apply/step1/3
- The same applies to Angola: https://www.angola-visa.com/complete-order/fill-submit-and-receive
- The same applies to Mozambique: https://www.evisa.gov.mz/
- The same applies to Sao Tome and Principe: http://www.smf.st/evisa/evisasteps.php
- As for the visa for Papua New Guinea, it is e-Visa, it is also issued to citizens of Kosovo, it costs 50 dollars and is submitted online. With it, it is possible to stay in Papua New Guinea for 60 days. Look and read a little more about the e-visa on the Papua New Guinea website.
- For the mentioned countries where entry with a Kosovo passport is prohibited, you can personally contact each embassy or ministry of foreign affairs of the mentioned countries and they will give you the same answer. I can email you answers from certain embassies where I was told that with a Kosovo passport it is not possible to enter Tunisia, Belarus, Syria, Lebanon, etc...--FranéRogoz (talk) 18:13, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
- i see. I respect your opinion to some extent.
- First of all, I looked again at Papua New Guinea..
- Kosovo is not included in the list of e-Visa ‘eligible countries’ on the site.
- Check the “Visitors” tab at “https://evisa.ica.gov.pg/evisa/account/apply”.
- (In particular, developed countries and Pacific countries are usually given 60 days.)
- Countries not included in the target countries must apply for a visa in advance.
- And the Botswana, DR Congo, etc. you mentioned.. I think that the fact that Kosovo is not included in these countries means that they do not receive visas, and we are planning to change it to "BLACK".
- what do you think? Lades2222 (talk) 17:32, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
- Hello. I received answers from the embassies of Indonesia, Mexico, Namibia and Guatemala regarding the Kosovo passport. None of these countries recognize the passport of Kosovo, so I have changed the data for the mentioned countries.--FranéRogoz (talk) 09:42, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
Hi!
If you don't want me here, I have one favour to ask of you. Please ask the administrators to return my edits of Russia, Belarus, Moldova, Uzbekistan, Albania, Turkey and Jordan. I thought you were almost satisfied with everything. I tried hard, spent a lot of time, and in the end all my efforts were in vain. I'm getting sick of this madness. I'm going to quit Wikipedia for good, as my labour is not appreciated. Thank you. Denos17 (talk) 11:34, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- I don't know if I can succeed.. but I'll try if the opportunity comes. Thank you. Lades2222 (talk) 12:30, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- Lades2222, editing on behalf of banned editors is not allowed and opens up the risk of being blocked yourself. Please disengage from this sockmaster completely.-- Ponyobons mots 20:32, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- PONYO, I just gave a final greeting and a formal response.
- What you are saying to me is threatening.
- Of course, I have no intention of following DENOSIO's request.
- However if there is new content, shouldn't it be edited into different content at some point? Lades2222 (talk) 21:53, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- Lades222, my note was not intended to be threatening at all. You responded to a banned editor who is asking you to edit on their behalf, saying that you'll "try if the opportunity comes". I, as the adminstrator and checkuser who has blocked the most recent socks, am only letting you know that such proxy editing isn't allowed on the English Wikipedia, in case you were unaware. I'm not sure what you're asking by "if there is new content, shouldn't it be edited into different content at some point?" but would be happy to reply if you can clarify. -- Ponyobons mots 19:11, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- Hello. First of all, I apologize for not being deeply familiar with Wikipedia's rules.
- I will learn Wikipedia's rules gradually.
- And I have a question for you about something new.
- Can a personal editor like me create a new page with any topic?
- For example.. Collect content (Due to capacity, number of characters, etc.) that is difficult to include on the "XX's policy" page and create it separately as a "XX's policy appendix"..
- I am asking this because I am not yet familiar with the rules related to this.
- If that is not allowed, please say "No".
- And if it is allowed, I would appreciate it if you could tell me the procedure on how to make it.
- Thank you. Lades2222 (talk) 23:44, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- You certainly can create new articles, but I'm not sure that creating such a subpage of sorts would work. Wikipedia isn't meant to be an indiscriminate collection of information (see WP:INDISCRIMINATE) and it sounds like perhaps an appendix of sorts, as you describe, would be overly-detailed. The editors at Wikipedia:Help desk may have advice to give is well, if you'd like to pose your questions there.-- Ponyobons mots 23:56, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- Lades222, my note was not intended to be threatening at all. You responded to a banned editor who is asking you to edit on their behalf, saying that you'll "try if the opportunity comes". I, as the adminstrator and checkuser who has blocked the most recent socks, am only letting you know that such proxy editing isn't allowed on the English Wikipedia, in case you were unaware. I'm not sure what you're asking by "if there is new content, shouldn't it be edited into different content at some point?" but would be happy to reply if you can clarify. -- Ponyobons mots 19:11, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- Lades2222, editing on behalf of banned editors is not allowed and opens up the risk of being blocked yourself. Please disengage from this sockmaster completely.-- Ponyobons mots 20:32, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
Updates for visa policy maps
Good day! Need updates for maps:
- File:Visa requirements for Thai citizens.png - add free-visa for country Panama,
- File:Visa_policy_of_El_Salvador.svg - add free-visa for Peru. Thanks you. ЖуковАФ (talk) 09:42, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
- Hello, can you tell me the source?
- I visited the visa data on the El Salvador MFA site and saw that El Salvador and Thailand are exempt from 'diplomat and official passports'.
- If the question you are inquiring about is exemption for ‘regular passport’, I would be grateful if you could provide me with the information. Lades2222 (talk) 10:32, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
- Visa-free 90 days for Thai citizens for visit Panama and visa-free 180 days for Nationals of Peru for a maximum stay of 180 days (El Salvador). source. ЖуковАФ (talk) 18:19, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, but I believe the information you provided is not official. It's good to search based on data prepared by the national government. So I'll hold off for now. Lades2222 (talk) 19:58, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you, I will provide you links. ЖуковАФ (talk) 22:04, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, but I believe the information you provided is not official. It's good to search based on data prepared by the national government. So I'll hold off for now. Lades2222 (talk) 19:58, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
- Visa-free 90 days for Thai citizens for visit Panama and visa-free 180 days for Nationals of Peru for a maximum stay of 180 days (El Salvador). source. ЖуковАФ (talk) 18:19, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
Good day! Source for File:Visa_requirements_for_Thai_citizens.png about Panama is https://www.embassyofpanama.org/visas-1 - "No visa requred. The maximum amount of time that you can stay in Panama is three (3) months." Thanks, ЖуковАФ (talk) 22:42, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
Update the visa requirements map for Albania
@Lades2222 Hi, can you update the visa requirements map for Albania, to change Papua New Guinea to green color, regarding to the eVisa color section, as Papua New Guinea requires an eVisa for Albanian citizens. Thanks Fgradi95 (talk) 16:21, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
- Hello, you are right.
- The map was immediately corrected.
- Thank you. Lades2222 (talk) 16:32, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Lades2222 Hi, I still don't see Papua New Guinea updated in green color, regarding the green color for eVisa. Thanks Fgradi95 (talk) 16:56, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
- Oh.. It may be because of the cache.
- I recommend that you press 'ctrl+shift+R' on the Albanian webpage. Lades2222 (talk) 16:58, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Lades2222 Ok. Thank you. Can you also update Albania in green in Visa policy of Papua New Guinea? Thanks Fgradi95 (talk) 17:39, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
- In that case, the gray color is already classified as e-Visa.
- Thanks. Lades2222 (talk) 17:41, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Lades2222 Ok. Thank you. Can you also update Albania in green in Visa policy of Papua New Guinea? Thanks Fgradi95 (talk) 17:39, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Lades2222 Hi, I still don't see Papua New Guinea updated in green color, regarding the green color for eVisa. Thanks Fgradi95 (talk) 16:56, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
Notice of Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents discussion
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Dispute over editing of incorrect information. Thank you. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 03:32, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
March 2024
Hi Lades2222! I noticed that you have reverted to restore your preferred version of Visa requirements for Paraguayan citizens several times. The impulse to undo an edit you disagree with is understandable, but I wanted to make sure you're aware that the edit warring policy disallows repeated reversions even if they are justifiable.
All editors are expected to discuss content disputes on article talk pages to try to reach consensus. If you are unable to agree at Talk:Visa requirements for Paraguayan citizens, please use one of the dispute resolution options to seek input from others. Using this approach instead of reverting can help you avoid getting drawn into an edit war. Thank you. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 03:33, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
Update some maps with color in visa requirements article
@Lades2222 Hi, I am from Albania and I have seen than you edit some articles about visa requirements and visa policy. I have seen that you last edited Visa requirements for Albanian citizens and I want to ask you can you update Russia in light green and Sudan in light yellow in Visa requirements for Albanian citizens map as Russia requires an eVisa for Albanian citizens while Sudan requires a travel permit which is mentioned in yellow in the visa requirements sections. Today, Sudan was mentioned as "travel permit required" in yellow in Visa requirements countries for Albanian citizens, but I don't know why it was again changed as "visa required". Please make these updates on this map. Thanks Jonipiri (talk) 16:03, 13 March 2024 (UTC)