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:::::::::{{re|Lunamann}} Can you do some critical thinking about what those results tell you? Of these, how many are an exact title match for "FIFA 2003"? Are you are getting results for the World Cup, but they are simply within the phrase "FIFA 2003 Women's World Cup" (or similar) without solely calling the subject "FIFA 2003"? If so, that's what [[WP:WPDAB|disambiguators]] call a [[WP:PTM|"partial title match"]] and should not be used in a (hypothetical) disambiguation. Would someone simply search "FIFA 2003" looking for the World Cup if it's not used, branded, or abbreviated in that fashion <u>as often as</u> someone looking for a video game that ''is'' commonly abbreviated this way? Furthermore, do you think an arbitrary dumping of algorithmic Google search results is a good proxy for determining primary usage on Wikipedia? --[[User:Tavix| <span style="color:#000080; font-family:georgia">'''T'''avix</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Tavix|<span style="color:#000080; font-family:georgia">talk</span>]])</sup> 14:10, 30 March 2024 (UTC) |
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Revision as of 14:10, 30 March 2024
March 25
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on March 25, 2024.
FIFA 2003
- FIFA 2003 → 2003 FIFA Women's World Cup (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
More likely to refer to the video game FIFA Football 2003. O.N.R. (talk) 23:30, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- Disambig. Google results are a roughly even three-way split between the world cup, the video game and events relating to FIFA in 2023. I haven't found a good target for the latter, but a dab between the first two is viable with or without that. Thryduulf (talk) 15:07, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- Could maybe plug a "See also: FIFA" at the end of the DAB? 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 17:41, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- Disambiguate as outlined above as there are multiple things this could refer to. InterstellarGamer12321 (talk | contribs) 12:34, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
- Revert back to the status quo of redirecting to FIFA Football 2003. The video games are commonly referred to as "FIFA [year]", the World Cup is not. While it's ambiguous, the video game is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC and a hatnote should be employed for the World Cup. -- Tavix (talk) 15:11, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
- Based on my research, in practice it seems there is no primary topic for this title. Thryduulf (talk) 21:46, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- Show your work then. Per the video game article, it is known as
simply FIFA 2003
, and my research verifies that it is common for the video game (eg: [1][2][3][4][[5]). I don't see the World Cup referred to as "FIFA 2003" and the exact phrase does not appear in the World Cup article. -- Tavix (talk) 21:59, 29 March 2024 (UTC)- I'm not doubting that it's a common name for the video game. However, as I explicitly said in my first comment, google results show it is also a common name for the world cup and events relating to FIFA that happened in 2023. Thryduulf (talk) 01:09, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
- No, Google results do not show that. -- Tavix (talk) 02:52, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
- Then we must be seeing different google results, because I've looked again, this time in a private window, using the search term FIFA 2023 -Wikipedia my top 30 results are as follows: Video game 13, World cup 10, FIFA events 5, Fifa Club World Cup 2. That's very clearly no primary topic. Thryduulf (talk) 03:27, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
- No, Google results do not show that. -- Tavix (talk) 02:52, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not doubting that it's a common name for the video game. However, as I explicitly said in my first comment, google results show it is also a common name for the world cup and events relating to FIFA that happened in 2023. Thryduulf (talk) 01:09, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
- Show your work then. Per the video game article, it is known as
- Based on my research, in practice it seems there is no primary topic for this title. Thryduulf (talk) 21:46, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- FIFA Women's World Cup 2023 (fifa.com)
- Trophy and award winners, for FIFA in 2023 (fifa.com)
- Amazon listing for FIFA 23 on Xbox One
- 2023 FIFA tournaments in photos (fifa.com)
- Forbes article talking about what happened to FIFA in 2023
- FOX Sports page for the Women's World Cup
- Reddit, linking to discussions of the video game AND FIFA itself AND the cup
- Amazon listing for FIFA 23 on PS4
- FIFA 2023 listing on Sony Store Malaysia for... some reason... Google, you know I'm in the Southern US, right???
- FOX Sports for Women's World Cup 2023
- fifa.com again, Watch the best goals from the Women's World Cup
- FIFA 2023 for PS5 listing on... Toys R Us UAE!?!? Google pls
- Olympics.com page about the Women's World Cup
- EA Answers page about FIFA 2023 Career Mode
- okay I don't know what language that's in, Spanish? It's fifa.com tho so I'll assume it's the World Cup and/or FIFA itself
- Youtube link about how to play FIFA 2023 on Android
- Dick's Sporting Goods listing for FIFA 2023 themed soccer balls
- Summary, my search is all over the place, with no clear primary target. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 13:23, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Lunamann: Can you do some critical thinking about what those results tell you? Of these, how many are an exact title match for "FIFA 2003"? Are you are getting results for the World Cup, but they are simply within the phrase "FIFA 2003 Women's World Cup" (or similar) without solely calling the subject "FIFA 2003"? If so, that's what disambiguators call a "partial title match" and should not be used in a (hypothetical) disambiguation. Would someone simply search "FIFA 2003" looking for the World Cup if it's not used, branded, or abbreviated in that fashion as often as someone looking for a video game that is commonly abbreviated this way? Furthermore, do you think an arbitrary dumping of algorithmic Google search results is a good proxy for determining primary usage on Wikipedia? -- Tavix (talk) 14:10, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
Cognitive Brain Research Unit
- Cognitive Brain Research Unit → Risto Näätänen (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
The Cognitive Brain Research Unit is a unit at the University of Helsinki. The current target is the unit's founder, who also directed it from 1991-2006. Not much is said about the unit at the current target, so I'm not sure if it will be satisfactory for people looking for it. However, I don't see it mentioned on University of Helsinki, either. I'm curious what the best target for this could be. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 21:04, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Weak keep, I haven't been able to find a mention anywhere else on Wikipedia and a sentence seems better than nothing. Rusalkii (talk) 23:37, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
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Preventative chemotherapy
- Preventative chemotherapy → Mass deworming (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Preventive chemotherapy → Mass deworming (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Possible case of WP:RASTONISH, the term probably more commonly understood to mean adjuvant chemotherapy. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 21:57, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- Dabify, or Delete as per WP:REDLINK. It feels pertinent that the opening sentence of Mass deworming does not state that Preventative chemotherapy is another name for it, but rather, that it is a TYPE of preventative chemotherapy. That says to me that there are MULTIPLE meanings for this phrase-- and that this deserves its own page, either a dab page or an article. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 22:15, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Readers will only use that search term if they are looking for information about chemotherapy, which is cancer chemotherapy. And I'm not even sure that adjuvant chemotherapy is really "preventative" in the way that readers would expect, so I wouldn't want to retarget it there. --Tryptofish (talk) 23:17, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: Preventive chemotherapy also redirects to Mass deworming. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 23:45, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- Don't see a reason not to bundle. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 02:41, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- Added. I wasn't sure whether to, seeing as this particular phrasing is mentioned at least four times at that article. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 19:50, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- Just to be clear: Delete both. --Tryptofish (talk) 20:33, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- My original vote was made misreading the bold text "Preventive chemotherapy" in the opener as "Preventative chemotherapy". Now that both are bundled? Delete both. (Or turn one into a DAB and retarget the other to said DAB, as per my original vote.) 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 21:29, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- Added. I wasn't sure whether to, seeing as this particular phrasing is mentioned at least four times at that article. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 19:50, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- Don't see a reason not to bundle. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 02:41, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
Alexander Kølpin (nallet dancer)
- Alexander Kølpin (nallet dancer) → Alexander Kølpin (ballet dancer) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
At this page for a day, unlikely mispelling Rusalkii (talk) 20:45, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
Dan Schneider (film professional)
- Dan Schneider (film professional) → Dan Schneider (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Dan Schneider already exists without the disambiguation, which is the intended target. There's no reason why someone would add the parentheses, and this redirect wasn't created from a page move. Bandit Heeler (talk) 19:11, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. This redirect is a left-over from an article created that duplicated an existing article on the subject. Instead of deleting it as a duplicate, they just redirected to the other article. No articles link to this, it is not a likely search topic. Pointless to have. Nothing in the edit history was used in the other article so history retention also isn't important here. Geraldo Perez (talk) 19:41, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. A {{R from unnecessary disambiguation}} that does not seem inaccurate. Steel1943 (talk) 06:40, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- The problem is, it's not a likely search topic, or at least something that's not being used. Before the nomination of the redirect, it wasn't getting any views, aside from a singular view on the 23rd of March, and bearing in mind the target's recent surge in page views over the last few days. Bandit Heeler (talk) 16:58, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- That argument is irrelevant for {{R from unnecessary disambiguation}} because WP:CHEAP applies and since there is no evidence why the disambiguator itself is problematic. "Not inaccurate" = "plausible" (regardless of page views) = deletion causes more harm than good. Steel1943 (talk) 19:45, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- The problem is, it's not a likely search topic, or at least something that's not being used. Before the nomination of the redirect, it wasn't getting any views, aside from a singular view on the 23rd of March, and bearing in mind the target's recent surge in page views over the last few days. Bandit Heeler (talk) 16:58, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
The Feed (American TV series)
- The Feed (American TV series) → The Feed (British TV series) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Quoting from currently-blocked user Roland Of Yew who moved this title to its current target with the ratioonale being: Incorrectly titled 'American' (,) the series is a British production, the American streaming platform 'Amazon' has international distribution rights. I ran into these two titles here whiles scanning for rdrs and rcats for DAB fixing purposes and found this not fitting any of our rcats – not even the " R from alternative ..." rcats. I may be wrong, but I'm listing this here for either deletion or keeping as this is over 3-and-a-half years since this was moved. What do you think? Intrisit (talk) 13:59, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
Link.com
I wanted to test this, and it turns out that "link.com" is a separate website that is built by stripe. Stripe's own domain is "stripe.com" and already exists as a redirect. The target in question makes no mention of "Link" on its own, or "link.com" for that matter. The article does make a passing mention of Stripe's "Payment Link" portal, but having the url as a redirect when this portal is barely present at the article may be confusing. The citation in the Stripe article that discusses the payment link portal, does not mention link.com. Utopes (talk / cont) 06:03, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- It's now briefly mentioned in Stripe, Inc.#Other. 🔥HOTm̵̟͆e̷̜̓s̵̼̊s̸̜̃🔥 (talk・edits) 18:38, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
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Horst Schumann (politician)
- Horst Schumann (politician) → Socialist Unity Party of Germany (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Redirecting Horst Schumann to the Socialist Unity Party of Germany page, where he is never mentioned and to which he has no connection to other than being a party politican, creates confusion for people looking him up. I wanted to actually create the Horst Schumann article and am instead faced with this unnecessary and unhelpful redirect (WP:RDELETE No. 9). The redirect is unprotected, but Horst Schumann (politician, born 1924) is the better title for this specific article IMHO. Maxwhollymoralground (talk) 13:24, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Maxwhollymoralground: As stated at the top of WP:RFD, you can just go ahead and create the article if the redirect is unprotected. Typically, article titles won't include a birth date unless needed for disambiguation purposes. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 13:46, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
Zaporozhye Oblast
- Zaporozhye Oblast → Russian occupation of Zaporizhzhia Oblast (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
The target of this redirect has been changed multiple times over the years, so I wanted to bring this to a discussion instead of just reverting. Essentially, I feel that this could just as easily refer to Zaporizhzhia Oblast as the Russian occupation article - there are (mostly older) sources that refer to the city by its Russian name, and Zaporozhye already redirects to the city. Maybe it could be converted to a disambiguation page? HappyWith (talk) 12:31, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
Liberal Focus Team
- Liberal Focus Team → Liberal Party (UK) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Liberal Alliance Focus Team → SDP–Liberal Alliance (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
"Focus team" is never mentioned at the target page, and the sparing mentions of "focus" and "team" are not in context of any sort of Focus Team. Utopes (talk / cont) 05:13, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment, I've also gone ahead and bundled "Liberal Alliance Focus Team", which has even less mentions of "focus" or "team", i.e. zero mentions in any capacity. Utopes (talk / cont) 05:22, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: The Lib Dems (and their precursors in the Liberals and the SDP-Liberal Alliance) have fielded election candidates under the banners of 'Liberal Focus Team' and 'Liberal Alliance Focus Team', usually in local elections. For example, take a look at the results of the 1986 London Borough Council elections. On a related note, they still stand 'Liberal Democrat Focus Team' candidates in recent local elections across the country. 🔥HOTm̵̟͆e̷̜̓s̵̼̊s̸̜̃🔥 (talk・edits) 16:36, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment I'm gonna just comment since I'm the one who created them but the reason i created the redirects is because it is a distinct description used for dozens of candidates fielded by those parties in the 1970s and 80s TheHaloVeteran2 (talk) 21:52, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
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Bimrad metro station
- Bimrad metro station → Surat Metro (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
"Bimrad" is not mentioned at the target article; Bimrad metro is not mentioned anywhere on Wikipedia for that matter. Unhelpful for people that search this term to end up at a page without relevant content. Utopes (talk / cont) 05:01, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
Keepand mark as a {{R avoided double redirect}} of Bhimrad metro station and {{R from misspelling}}. "Bimrad" is a very plausible misspelling of "Bhimrad", which is the name of a station listed in the target article. Thryduulf (talk) 13:09, 18 March 2024 (UTC)- Bhimrad is not the name of a station listed at the target article. Utopes (talk / cont) 05:11, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
- Whoops, I must have gotten confused which article I was looking at. Retarget to List of Surat Metro stations, which is where it is mentioned. Thryduulf (talk) 21:00, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
- Bhimrad is not the name of a station listed at the target article. Utopes (talk / cont) 05:11, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
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Food street
- Food street → Pakistani food streets (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Food Street → Pakistani food streets (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
As noted by the page mover, the term "food street" can be highly ambiguous and exist all over the globe, evidenced from searching "food streets" on Wikipedia. Street food looks like the most suitable term out there, which branches off into Street food of Mumbai, Street food of Chennai, etc, although perhaps there is a difference between this and the multiple food streets, such as Gawalmandi Food Street or VV Puram Food Street, etc. Utopes (talk / cont) 04:53, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose retarget to Street food. Feels very ah... how do I put this, Mad Hatter-y? "You might as well say that 'I see what I eat' is the same thing as 'I eat what I see.'" A 'food street' would be a street where food is sold, while 'street food' is instead food that is sold on the street. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 19:08, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- I just read over the Street food article, and it seems as though it is a mix of describing the food sold on the streets in the top section (street food), and then the next section describes the shops that are on streets that sell food (food streets). In fact, at this point, looks as though this article is not sure which topic it is meant to refer to, and the top section may need rewriting to accommodate both concepts and/or the article may need splitting. Not sure at this point. Steel1943 (talk) 20:27, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Well, if THAT ain't a WP:SURPRISE and a half. I do concur that that article needs a rewrite and/or split, though I'm going to hold my vote where it is for now-- mostly because, while you're correct in that that's where the information is now, it doesn't feel like it should be where the information SHOULD be. (It's a bit like the discussion a while back on Not real, and how I mentioned that the option that seemed most correct would be to redirect it to Real, except that the idea was silly.) 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 20:52, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- I just read over the Street food article, and it seems as though it is a mix of describing the food sold on the streets in the top section (street food), and then the next section describes the shops that are on streets that sell food (food streets). In fact, at this point, looks as though this article is not sure which topic it is meant to refer to, and the top section may need rewriting to accommodate both concepts and/or the article may need splitting. Not sure at this point. Steel1943 (talk) 20:27, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: I have added Food Street to the nomination. Steel1943 (talk) 20:17, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to Street food since the concept of "food streets" seem to be explained there, though the top/lead section is not too clear regarding explaining that both concepts (food sold on streets, and the streets which the food is found) are present in the article. (The article may need a bit of a rewrite or some splitting into another article, but it seems at the present time, the concept as defined by the redirects is present in Street food.) Steel1943 (talk) 20:27, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
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Thermodynamics of nanostructures
- Thermodynamics of nanostructures → Thermal transport in nanostructures (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
The redirect should be deleted. The name of the page was an error, it appears that an editor thought that Thermodynamics was short for Thermal dynamics which it is not. The page has been changed to the more appropriate title Thermal transport in nanostructures. The redirect is incorrect, as it is not on thermodynamics, so would take readers in the wrong direction. I cannot find an actual page on thermodynamics in nanostructures, so it should be removed for the moment. Ldm1954 (talk) 04:52, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Keep for now as an {{R from move}}, unless the phrase clashes with another topic. The article has used the former title for almost ten years and may become hard to find without the redirect. ― Synpath 21:43, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Please note that the old name is misleading -- that should matter most. The science clashes. Ldm1954 (talk) 22:32, 10 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- N.B., the redirect is comparable to having a redirect from
"Star""Satellite" to "Milky Way" -- misleading without rationale. Please check the article content. Ldm1954 (talk) 22:37, 18 March 2024 (UTC)- I'm not sure how misleading the redirect really is. As far as I understand, the physics of thermal transport would be a subset of thermodynamics. If I'm hopelessly wrong there, then sure, it might be harmful enough to delete. Even then, I don't think that this is wholly unreasonable thing to be mistaken about (hence a useful redirect).
- Regardless, deleting the redirect would break several internal links, which are easy to fix, but one should do that ahead of deletion. External links might exist as well, but that's more difficult to assess. I'd say that the redirect should be left alone for a month or three to see if it becomes unused. If that is established then it may make sense to revisit deleting this, but it still seems WP:CHEAP to keep around. ― Synpath 00:33, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, but yup, you are very wrong. Thermal transport is exactly what it says, how heat via vibrations (phonons) or electrons is transmitted from one place to another, for instance compare copper to an insulator such as glass wool. The topic is relevant as it changes at the nanoscale.
- Thermodynamics is all about what phase you have and how it varies with composition, temperature, pressure, gas environment etc. For instance why you can melt ice by adding salt to it, the solution freezes at a much lower temperature. Thermodynamics at the nanoscale is important, but has nothing to do with heat transfer. Ldm1954 (talk) 07:59, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Thermal transport is akin to ocean heating or magma flow. Thermodynamics is the (theoretical) study of ergodic systems with a large number of particles and the conservation of energy. It would seem the original article was created with a typo in the title; its pointless to preserve typos. 67.198.37.16 (talk) 15:17, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
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Security & Privacy
- Security & Privacy → IEEE Security & Privacy (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Security and Privacy → IEEE Security & Privacy (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Refers to the wrong journal (https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/journal/24756725) Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 04:42, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Note I've combined these two nominations that had identical rationales. Thryduulf (talk) 04:53, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep unless someone wants to stub up an article on the other journal -- 65.92.247.66 (talk) 03:49, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- Delete as per WP:DAB and WP:XY. Without a disambiguator that this in fact is referring to a journal, someone could easily get here off of a search for an article discussing the intersection of Privacy and Security-- but there is no article (that I know of) that discusses said intersection, which means the redirect is pulled by both topics with equal force as per WP:XY, and should be deleted. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 21:37, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:XY. Anarchyte (talk) 07:23, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
Idealwise separated
- Idealwise separated → Completion of a ring#Krull topology (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not actually defined at target (but mentioned at Local criterion for flatness). 1234qwer1234qwer4 03:04, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget: As redirecting to a different criterion where this notion happens to be used seems a little odd to me, I created an entry for the term at Glossary of commutative algebra. It probably makes sense to retarget there. Felix QW (talk) 16:22, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Retarget to Local criterion for flatness? Or to Glossary of commutative algebra?
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- Retarget to Glossary of commutative algebra#idealwise_separated, where the term is now defined.—Ketil Trout (<><!) 05:21, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
Human respect
- Human respect → The Foundation for Harmony and Prosperity (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
For such a broad concept, it seems as if this search term would be for people looking for respect (with respect to humans), i.e. just the contents of Respect. Human respect does not seem more particularly associated with a non-profit in Sacramento than it would be with just, respect in the general sense. Utopes (talk / cont) 01:43, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Keep/comment, since the redirect/page did not previously exist, and given WP:CHEAP, i did not think there was much of a problem here. I created a new redirect though that uses the exact phrase that is associated with this particular group, "philosophy of human respect" as a new redirect. If that full phrase, which seems predominantly to be used by this group, is preferred, then I suppose we could delete "human respect" by itself. Iljhgtn (talk) 02:20, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- I agree with the WP:CHEAP aspect; a useful redirect that exists is always more preferred than a useful redirect that does not exist. Once a useful redirect exists, it'd be a waste to delete it per WP:CHEAP. However, as long as it exists, it's most beneficial to ensure that it leads to the most likely target for that title. "Human respect", in my eyes, seems to be a likely search term. Now that we have it, I feel like the most expectable location for this title would be the page for Respect as a general page for a general term, rather than at the Sacramento non-profit. If "human respect" is strongly correlated with the non-profit as opposed to "respect", a hatnote could be warranted then. Utopes (talk / cont) 02:45, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Interestingly, Google mostly gives results on the Catholic sin of human respect. I don't think we cover it anywhere, but it looks like there are enough sources it may be notable on its own. Rusalkii (talk) 02:54, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- welp, I've mentioned it on Fear of God for the time being (seeing as the two are somewhat related concepts) 🔥HOTm̵̟͆e̷̜̓s̵̼̊s̸̜̃🔥 (talk・edits) 18:10, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget-- either to Respect as per nom, or to Fear of God as per Rusalkii and HotMess. Don't delete, but don't keep where it is, either. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 19:15, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think that redirecting to Fear of God (due to the 'Sin of Human Respect') would be a good idea, per WP:SURPRISE. 🔥HOTm̵̟͆e̷̜̓s̵̼̊s̸̜̃🔥 (talk・edits) 01:48, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment - Possible WP:XY of sorts, e.g. respect for persons and self-respect movement (as well as some aforementioned). Respect might be a good target (as with human dignity pointing to dignity); though this case may be more complicated than that one. Does not seem fit for a disambiguation page, at the least. On a thought tangent: Juxtaposing personhood to non-personhood, may indicate that the quality of of being human is a philosophical requirement of being deemed worthy of 'full' respect. — Godsy (TALKCONT) 06:44, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Wear Plants To Church Day
- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was speedy delete per author request. ✗plicit 05:53, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- Wear Plants To Church Day → Mormonism and women#Clothing (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
PROD'd by user:BBQboffin, so I'm moving this here. Reason given: "Useless redirect as no one is wearing "plants" to church unless a Carmen Miranda fan converts to the LDS and wears a fruit hat on Sunday morning. When I created the page I made a typo for "pants", but for some reason this silly page is still here. Maybe I shouldn't have picked Palm Sunday for the PROD, but here goes." StreetcarEnjoyer (talk) 03:26, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review).
Eepy
Meme not mentioned at target. If I was searching for "eepy" I would not want content on sleepiness but the meme. Also, "eepy" generally refers to sleepiness in general, not just excessive sleepiness. If kept I suggest a retarget to Sleep, though note also the existence of EepyBird. Rusalkii (talk) 02:20, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- Delete The... lack of existence? That's a redlink. A quick search indicates you meant Eepybird, before revealing that their website actually alternately lists it as both Eepybird and EepyBird... one second, creating a long-overdue redirect. In any case, oppose retarget to Sleep on the grounds that Somnolence IS about sleepiness in general, not just excessive sleepiness. In addition, also oppose retarget to Eepybird on the grounds that someone searching "Eepy" in 2024 is a thousand times more likely to be looking for the meme synonym of sleepy, rather than for a company whose main claim to fame according to its article was dated to 2007. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 15:28, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - the word "eepy" is a meme but principally it is a slang for sleepy. It seems like the OP and the one opposer also agree eepy means sleepiness ("
"eepy" generally refers to sleepiness in general...
" and "searching "Eepy" in 2024 is a thousand times more likely to be looking for the meme synonym of sleepy...
") So... why not just have it linked to sleepiness as it is now? This is the agreed upon synonym/slang that eepy is referring to. Iamreallygoodatcheckers talk 05:09, 28 March 2024 (UTC)- This is a good point. If it's all right for a marked, known slang synonym of a word to be redirected to its meaning without need for a source, then I'll happily and eagerly change my vote to Keep. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 11:21, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
March 2024 Ukraine missile strike
- March 2024 Ukraine missile strike → 22 March 2024 Russian strikes on Ukraine (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Same as #March 2024 Ukraine missile strikes, with the added grammar problem as there has definitively not been one single missile strike in Ukraine in March. Super Ψ Dro 00:36, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to Timeline of the Russian invasion of Ukraine (1 December 2023 – present)#March 2024 * Pppery * it has begun... 01:41, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- Delete There is no definitive single Ukrainiam missile "strike", but many of them. Gödel2200 (talk) 01:06, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget per Pppery. Thryduulf (talk) 15:11, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
March 2024 Ukraine missile strikes
- March 2024 Ukraine missile strikes → 22 March 2024 Russian strikes on Ukraine (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
There have been other missile strikes in Ukraine other than this 22 March mass wave. The ones against civilians in Odesa stand out [6]. We have an article for 6 March 2024 Odesa strike but there have been more. Super Ψ Dro 00:35, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to Timeline of the Russian invasion of Ukraine (1 December 2023 – present)#March 2024 * Pppery * it has begun... 01:41, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to Timeline of the Russian invasion of Ukraine (1 December 2023 – present)#March 2024 as per Pppery. Gödel2200 (talk) 01:06, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget per Pppery. Thryduulf (talk) 15:11, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
2024 Ukraine missile strike
- 2024 Ukraine missile strike → 22 March 2024 Russian strikes on Ukraine (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Obviously problematic redirect. Inclusionists let's use common sense. Just delete the redirect. We don't have disambiguation pages like 2022 Ukraine missile strike or 2023 Ukraine missile strike. There is few people who would look up something as general as this. Let's simply delete the redirect, it is of not much use. Super Ψ Dro 00:32, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
DeleteMy first reaction was to keep, as it seemed like this was "2024 strike" (singular) to "2024 strikes" (plural). Then I noticed the "22 March" part of the target. Delete as per nom, definitely don't keep on current target. (A potential target if kept MIGHT be to Russo-Ukrainian War, which takes a more wide-shot, general look at the concept... but if any missile strikes happen in Ukraine NOT part of the Russo-Ukranian War, the reasoning for that retarget falls apart.) 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 00:47, 25 March 2024 (UTC)- Retarget as per Pppery, although I do recommend adjusting to Timeline of the Russian invasion of Ukraine (1 December 2023 – present)#January 2024 given this one doesn't specify March. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 15:35, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to Timeline of the Russian invasion of Ukraine (1 December 2023 – present)#March 2024 * Pppery * it has begun... 01:41, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to Timeline of the Russian invasion of Ukraine (1 December 2023 – present), March isn't mentioned in this one. Rusalkii (talk) 19:11, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- Delete This is a nonsensical redirect. Even if we were to target it to some timeline, there are no good options, as any timeline (at least how they are currently structured) necessarily does not include all of 2024, and "2024 Ukraine missile strike" certainly could refer to any time period in 2024, not just one part of the timeline. Gödel2200 (talk) 00:49, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to Timeline of the Russian invasion of Ukraine (1 December 2023 – present) per Rusalkii. Thryduulf (talk) 15:12, 26 March 2024 (UTC)