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I was asked to remove the terms "whitelisting" and "blacklisting" at work because they were not "inclusive" enough. The terms "whitelisting" and "blacklisting" appear in [https://nvlpubs.nist.gov/nistpubs/SpecialPublications/NIST.SP.800-171r2.pdf NIST 800-171 R2], are technical terms that have been in use since at least the 1980s, and have nothing to do with race. While Wikipedia may not be the place to practice activism, perhaps there should at least be some mention of the fact that the primary casualty of the Left's war on language is truth. [[User:Tpkatsa|Tpkatsa]] ([[User talk:Tpkatsa|talk]]) 00:40, 23 December 2023 (UTC) |
I was asked to remove the terms "whitelisting" and "blacklisting" at work because they were not "inclusive" enough. The terms "whitelisting" and "blacklisting" appear in [https://nvlpubs.nist.gov/nistpubs/SpecialPublications/NIST.SP.800-171r2.pdf NIST 800-171 R2], are technical terms that have been in use since at least the 1980s, and have nothing to do with race. While Wikipedia may not be the place to practice activism, perhaps there should at least be some mention of the fact that the primary casualty of the Left's war on language is truth. [[User:Tpkatsa|Tpkatsa]] ([[User talk:Tpkatsa|talk]]) 00:40, 23 December 2023 (UTC) |
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:Speaking of NIST, they've deprecated the term whitelisting in favor of more inclusive language. [[Special:Contributions/72.93.105.66|72.93.105.66]] ([[User talk:72.93.105.66|talk]]) 16:44, 18 April 2024 (UTC) |
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== Requested move 19 April 2022 == |
== Requested move 19 April 2022 == |
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I'm not sure about the above-described move from Whitelist to Whitelisting. Looking at the content, the opposite subject is Blacklist (computing), not Blacklisting. GregorB (talk) 17:37, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
"Inclusive?"
The article mentions changing the term in favour of something "more inclusive" but fails to explain why it's a problematic term in the first place. Wikipedia is not a place for activitism... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.196.98.141 (talk) 11:49, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
- It is true Wikipedia is not a place to practice activism. However, it is also true Wikipedia is a place for mentioning how activism is impacting or has impacted the world as a whole or even a particular article subject. I will not immediately re-include a mention of the current controversy, because I would like to hear others' thoughts on the matter: Should we include in this article, without taking a stance, the current controversy regarding racial insensitivity, whether that insensitivity is real or perceived?
- ~ JDCAce (talk) 03:25, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
I was asked to remove the terms "whitelisting" and "blacklisting" at work because they were not "inclusive" enough. The terms "whitelisting" and "blacklisting" appear in NIST 800-171 R2, are technical terms that have been in use since at least the 1980s, and have nothing to do with race. While Wikipedia may not be the place to practice activism, perhaps there should at least be some mention of the fact that the primary casualty of the Left's war on language is truth. Tpkatsa (talk) 00:40, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
- Speaking of NIST, they've deprecated the term whitelisting in favor of more inclusive language. 72.93.105.66 (talk) 16:44, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
Requested move 19 April 2022
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The result of the move request was: moved. (non-admin closure) NW1223<Howl at me•My hunts> 01:10, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
Whitelisting → Whitelist – Wrong name, article is about "whitelist" not about "whitelisting". Eurohunter (talk) 12:27, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support per nom. --Spekkios (talk) 09:50, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support as per nom. Kpddg (talk) 16:06, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support as per nom. I also think we could redirect "Whitelisting" to "Whitelist". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Urban Versis 32 (talk • contribs) 20:55, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support per nom. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 14:01, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
Requested move 9 July 2023
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The result of the move request was: Not moved and WP:SNOW closed (non-admin closure) :3 F4U (they/it) 07:25, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
Whitelist → Allowlist – Wikipedia provides some influence on the usage of terms, and as other companies stated to move away from the controversial terms, I think the article title should be a non-controversial, like allowlist, and the controversial whitelist term be mentioned in the article. Also, check the other discussion in Talk:Blacklist (computing)#BlackList Controversy. — Arthurfragoso (talk) 20:24, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
- Close as redundant; we don't need two separate move requests. For the record, this should also count as an oppose. O.N.R. (talk) 21:29, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose as above. * Pppery * it has begun... 21:59, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose per ONR—blindlynx 01:21, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose but not on procedural grounds, whitelist remains as a common name and we're not here to RIGHTGREATWRONGS. Killuminator (talk) 08:06, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose per WP:COMMONNAME and WP:RGW. 〜 Festucalex • talk 09:57, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose as common usage, never heard the term "allowlist". Crouch, Swale (talk) 16:19, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
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