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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:26, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Revera (event)

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Unsourced with no notability per GNG or EVENT. Google search returned no reliable independent coverage on the event. Promotional tone with no denotable notability. The Herald (Benison) (talk) 16:01, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Education, India, and Kerala. The Herald (Benison) (talk) 16:01, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: I couldn't find anything about it on the web except for Facebook posts. This topic doesn't seem notable at all; it appears to be promotional and fails to meet Wikipedia's general notability guideline (WP:GNG). Grabup (talk) 16:14, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: it appears to be promotional, fails WP:GNG or WP:N(E) ~~User:Spworld2 (talk) 2:14, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
Delete. No sources on the page and this page seems like promotion of an event held by student union of a college. WP:PROMO. Fails WP:GNG. RangersRus (talk) 15:20, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. No reliable sources are provided, event do look like some promotion. Hookiq (talk) 15:09, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete lacks sources fails WP:GNG.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 19:48, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Kerala Gazetted Officers' Federation

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Declined prod. A google news search found only 3 sources of routine coverage. Fails WP:ORG and GNG. LibStar (talk) 23:25, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep, notable organization. When you say only 3 sources, in which language did you google? Here are some results, [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9], [10], [11], [12], [13], [14] --Soman (talk) 00:47, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
English. Most of the sources you found are local and we need wider coverage as per WP:AUD. I would caution using youtube as a source as per Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources. LibStar (talk) 00:54, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- As I'm sure you are aware, not all news around the world is in English. The sources here include Mathrubhumi which has a readership of 970,000 daily, Asianet (TV channel), Kerala Kaumudi, etc. If you read WP:AUD it literally says " Significant coverage in media with an international, national, or at least regional audience (e.g., the biggest daily newspaper in any US state) is a strong indication of notability." If Kerala was located in the US, it would be the second-most populous state after California. --Soman (talk) 01:12, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Baker Ninan Fenn

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Non-notable religious figure. Half of the hits I get from searching for sources (string:"baker ninan fenn") are non-responsive; the other half are useless as sources for Fenn. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 20:42, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Diocesan bishops of major denominations have generally been held to be notable. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:20, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Can you point me to a specific policy or discussion that supports that position? Bear in mind WP:BLP also applies here! —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 16:06, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:CLERGYOUTCOMES illustrates the consensus. BLP is irrelevant as to his notability. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:34, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: This is the third time of thereabout. Please look at WP:BISHOPS. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 06:45, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yakob Elias

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Non-notable religious figure. Source search (string:"yakob elias") returns nothing. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 20:38, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Diocesan bishops of major denominations have generally been held to be notable. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:20, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Can you point me to a specific policy or discussion that supports that position? Bear in mind WP:BLP also applies here! —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 16:06, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:CLERGYOUTCOMES illustrates the consensus. BLP is irrelevant as to his notability. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:35, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:35, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Clean up and sourcing is not deletion. A Metropolitan of a major diocese is notable by virtue of his office per WP:BISHOPS. I still believe sources may exist offline. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 02:03, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep per above. This church is a part of the wider Orthodox church and there is no reason why its bishops would not be notable. Keralan bishops of all denominations seem to be challenged more than European ones, presumably because most sources will be in the local languages and/or offline. Here are some additional Eng lang ones, searching on "Yakob Mar Elias": [15], [16], [17]. Ingratis (talk) 05:25, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Anthonios Yaqu'b

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Non-notable religious figure; both sources in the article are 404-compliant. Search for sources (string: "anthonios yaqub") turns up nothing. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 20:35, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Christianity, and Kerala. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 21:42, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: The sources have been fixed to not be dead; the first is of unknown authorship and the second doesn't discuss Yaqu'b in depth (though "Yaq'ub" gets name-dropped a fair bit). —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 22:45, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Diocesan bishops of major denominations have generally been held to be notable. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:21, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Can you point me to a specific policy or discussion that supports that position? Bear in mind WP:BLP also applies here! —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 16:06, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:CLERGYOUTCOMES illustrates the consensus. BLP is irrelevant as to his notability. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:35, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: I don't know much about Syriac Orthodox Church but heading a Metropolice of a major city Manglore satisfies WP:CLERGY. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 06:49, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Abraham Julios

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Non-notable religious figure. Google search (string:"abraham julios") turns up barely anything, and the lot of it is unusable as sources. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 20:32, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Diocesan bishops of major denominations have generally been held to be notable. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:21, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Can you point me to a specific policy or discussion that supports that position? Bear in mind WP:BLP also applies here! —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 16:05, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:CLERGYOUTCOMES illustrates the consensus. BLP is irrelevant as to his notability. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:35, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Maybe this is one of the deprecated places needing attention I. Wikipedia. That doesn't mean a clergy if such office won't be entered. By the Merit of the office, he is notable. I don't seem the nominator took this in or maybe had been nominated generally with others. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 11:06, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mathew Moolakkatt

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Non-notable religious figure. The only sources I can find that discuss him at length (string: "Mathew Moolakkatt") are tied to a controversy and legal case about Catholic marriage practises. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 20:28, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Diocesan bishops of major denominations have generally been held to be notable. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:21, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Can you point me to a specific policy or discussion that supports that position? Bear in mind WP:BLP also applies here! —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 16:05, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:CLERGYOUTCOMES illustrates the consensus. BLP is irrelevant as to his notability. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:35, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: I don't need to talk much here. I thought this has been emphasized before, that the Bishop or Archbishop of a particular diocese or Archdiocese is notable by the virtue of his office. It is an elected office for Wikipedia's sake. See WP:NBISHOP too, or WP:CLERGY. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 09:08, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thomas Koorilos

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Non-notable religious figure. Google search (string:"thomas koorilos") turns up no usable sources what-so-ever, mainly profiles and name-drops. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 20:16, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Diocesan bishops of major denominations have generally been held to be notable. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:22, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Can you point me to a specific policy or discussion that supports that position? Bear in mind WP:BLP also applies here! —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 16:04, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:CLERGYOUTCOMES illustrates the consensus. BLP is irrelevant as to his notability. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:35, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
BLP is, however, relevant to what sort of content the article can have. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 15:28, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Though a weak keep per WP:SIGCOV slight, the subject meets WP:SNG for religious related. A metropolitan Bishop is notable and there is possibility of sources about him. Clean up is not deletion pls! Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 15:39, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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