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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on June 13, 2024.

Intruder Alert! Intruder Alert!

• Intruder Alert! Intruder Alert! → Berzerk (video game)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

"intruder alert" currently redirects to trespasser. don't think this line is or can feasibly be primarily associated with berzerk quite like... all the other lines. google's results are confusing, but mostly seem to point to assorted movie lines and an achievement in a lego batman game. a little torn on voting for retargeting or deletion, but will lean towards retargeting cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 19:31, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Technical music

• Technical music → Progressive music  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned in the target article. The target article mentions used of technology, but the use of the word "technical" is not exclusive to technology. In addition, if the word "technical" is meant to refer to technology, then arguably the most technological-heavy music genre is Electronic music. Probably best to delete this vague redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 18:50, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

delete as vague, as this could refer to techno, electronic music, literally any song more complex in structure or production than a nursery rhyme, and jazz cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 19:35, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Bienver metal

• Bienver metal → Heavy metal music  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Bienver Metal → Heavy metal music  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned in the target article, leaving it unclear what these redirects are meant to refer. Third party search engines do not seem to know what this means either ... given the top results I receive when looking up this phrase relate to Justin Bieber. Steel1943 (talk) 18:06, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Delete per OP — Czello ^(music) 18:07, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Delete per nonsensical topic. Thanks,Neuropol^Talk 18:09, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Under the influence of alcohol

• Under the influence of alcohol → Alcohol intoxication  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Unlikely search query Mondtaler (talk) 17:17, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

• Keep Redirects are cheap, and this is unambiguous. Also, it doesn't seem like an unlikely search term IMO. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 17:38, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
• Retarget to Under the influence. It got 15 views last year, not sure whether that is low or high but at least it is not zero. The name seems based on shortening driving under the influence of alcohol, so under the influence is a better target. Mathnerd314159 (talk) 17:37, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
• Retarget to Under the influence (a dab page) per Mathnerd314159. Someone using this is equally likely to be looking for Alcohol intoxication or Driving under the influence, both of which are listed there. Thryduulf (talk) 17:59, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
• Retarget to DAB page as per Mathnerd and Thryduulf, while also tagging as Incomplete Disambiguation. I will admit, I was about to recommend that the redirect be kept as per Presidentman before I saw Thryduulf note that Under the influence was a DAB page. That said, even if you take "...of alcohol" as a disambiguator, that still leaves Alcohol intoxication and Driving under the influence as potential hits, both of which are near the top of the DAB page. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 20:21, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
• Comment - I normally like DABs as redirect targets, but this one has so many entries for unrelated albums and intoxication by means other than alcohol that I feel being targeted here might cause WP:SURPRISE. The trouble is that this really does have two potential targets: Alcohol intoxication or Driving under the influence, both of which are located at that DAB amidst everything else... but again, I'm worried that the weight of the "everything else" could cause confusion. Does anyone else think a mini-DAB with just those two links would be okay, or am I impugning the intelligence of potential wikipedia users by thinking they'd get confused here? Fieari (talk) 23:47, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

  I mean, the thing is, both of the potential targets here are at the very top of the Under the influence DAB, separated by exactly one non-alcohol result (Altered state of consciousness, and even that DOES have information pertaining to alcohol-- after all, ethanol itself IS a drug). Add on the fact that I'm fairly certain most of the music/media links are using "Under the Influence" as a shorthand for "Under the Influence of Alcohol", and I'd say that it shouldn't cause too much confusion or surprise. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 10:48, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

• Keep - if a user searches "Under the influence of alcohol", its extremely likely they want Alcohol intoxication. There's no implication they're searching for anything related to driving (you can do anything "under the influence of alcohol") and the inclusion of "of alcohol" in the term means they weren't searching for drug-based intoxication, or any of the various topics that are simply called "Under the influence" listed on the Under the influence disambig page. BugGhost🪲👻 07:50, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 17:19, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Electric Turbo

• Electric Turbo → Porsche Taycan  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

The Porsche Taycan 'Turbo' models don't actually have a turbocharger, it's just a namesake for a higher-performance model of a car. In that sense, it's kinda misleading. I did a google search, and 'electric turbo' doesn't seem to be a common nickname for the Taycan Turbo models either. Now, looking at retarget options, there does exist electric supercharger (I know technically there's no such thing as an "electric turbo" but that's what {{R from incorrect name}} is for), but having a look at that article, there also exists electrically-assisted turbocharger, so I'm not sure where to retarget it to. — AP 499D25 (talk) 06:27, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

• Disambig between electrically-assisted turbocharger and electric supercharger. The term seems to be used for both. Thryduulf (talk) 09:25, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
• Retarget to electrically assisted turbocharger - most logical destination for someone searching the term. --Sable232 (talk) 14:44, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Retarget or disambiguate?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 17:18, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Szökés

• Szökés → Prison Break  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Szoekes → Prison Break  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Szokes → Prison Break  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

For some reason, the Hungarian name of a TV show was redirected there in 2007, without explanation. It's obviously unused, nor are other language names for the same TV show redirected, and there is practically no reader traffic. Diacriticless variants were created next year by bots as well. Joy (talk) 17:00, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Conjunctival pallor

• Conjunctival pallor → Anemia  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

while this is a key symptom of anemia, this redirect does not lead to the actual topic, rather a cause of the symptom Thanks,Neuropol^Talk 13:08, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Weak delete Is there another disease that causes conjunctival pallor? –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 14:03, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

It's only really observed in anemia, but this is because it is mostly looked for when diagnosing anemia. Thanks,Neuropol^Talk 14:24, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Anagrams as establishment of priority

• Aaaaaaacccccdeeeeeghiiiiiiillllmmnnnnnnnnnooooppqrrstttttuuuuu → Anagram#Establishment of priority  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Smaismrmilmepoetaleumibunenugttauiras → Anagram#Establishment of priority  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
• Ceiiinosssttuv → Hooke's law  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Scientists of the early modern period often encoded key discoveries as anagrams to establish priority before publication. These should all target Anagram#Establishment of priority, or they should all target the relevant topics they encode: Rings of Saturn#History for the first two, and Hooke's law for the latter. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 12:26, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

• Keep 1 and 2, neutral 3** – This is fascinating. I think this article describes the anagram itself the best. It's not a particularly useful redirect, but you can imagine someone hiding this specific anagram as an easter egg in some work, in which case this redirect would serve very well. The third one is only explained in a note, which makes me more happy to delete. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 14:20, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

I'm a bit confused. You created Aaaaaaacccccdeeeeeghiiiiiiillllmmnnnnnnnnnooooppqrrstttttuuuuu only to immediately RfD it? Tercer (talk) 18:37, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

I'm guessing nom's thought process was, "Well, I made this redirect, but I'm not sure if it should point where Smaismrmilmepoetaleumibunenugttauiras points or if it should point analogously to where Ceiiinosssttuv points (which would be Rings of Saturn#History), so I'll just bundle my new redirect in with these two confused redirects as an RfD". 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 19:40, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Hurt (Witt Lowry song)

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the discussion was speedy delete per criterion G5. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 12:28, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

• Hurt (Witt Lowry song) → Hurt  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

No article for Witt Lowry and thus not even listed on the Hurt disambiguation page. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 04:33, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per nom, we have no information about this song and nowhere that appears suitable to mention it. Witt Lowry does get quite a few mentions but all in passing (principally where he has collaborated with other people) and none of them are relevant to this song. Thryduulf (talk) 10:32, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review).