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Adding deletion nomination of Category:Western European countries.
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==== NEW NOMINATIONS ====
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==== Category:Western European countries ====
:* '''Propose deleting''' {{lc|Western European countries}}
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' Previously deleted after discussion as seen [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_June_7#Category:Northwestern_European_countries here] <span style="font-weight:bold;color:darkblue">[[User:Moxy|Moxy]]</span>🍁 19:49, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

==== Category:United States Army Air Forces officer trainees ====
==== Category:United States Army Air Forces officer trainees ====
:* '''Propose merging''' [[:Category:United States Army Air Forces officer trainees]] to [[:Category:United States Army Air Forces personnel]]
:* '''Propose merging''' [[:Category:United States Army Air Forces officer trainees]] to [[:Category:United States Army Air Forces personnel]]

Revision as of 19:49, 28 July 2024

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NEW NOMINATIONS

Category:Western European countries

Nominator's rationale: Previously deleted after discussion as seen here Moxy🍁 19:49, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:United States Army Air Forces officer trainees

Nominator's rationale: Non defining category. These are effectively people who didn't become officers Mason (talk) 18:20, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, they served in the Army Air Forces, but were neither officers nor enlisted. The recommended parent cat is essentially a container cat with subcats only. Semper Fi! FieldMarine (talk) 18:39, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please review what defining mean. @FieldMarine (It'll help you make better counter arguments). They may indeed be United States Army Air Forces officer trainees (a.k.a. neither officers nor enlisted), but that's not how these people are regularly described. Mason (talk) 19:02, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Rugby Africa Cup

Nominator's rationale: There is a speedy request to move Category:Africa Cup to Category:Rugby Africa Cup. To preserve the category history the newly created category needs to be deleted and the speedy move actioned. Bcp67 (talk) 17:04, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:People from Siemiatycze

Nominator's rationale: Small categories (only one person in the people category and only two in the politicians category) for a small (pop. 14K) town. As always, this would be fine if there were a lot more people from Siemiatycze to file in it than this, but every town does not automatically need or get one of these the moment just a couple of people with Wikipedia articles have been from there -- and since we already have the county-level category, which only has eight people in it and thus isn't in any desperate need of diffusion, there's no significant loss of context in just using that instead. Bearcat (talk) 15:39, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:ESPN FC template using numeric ID

Nominator's rationale: Template:ESPN FC stopped using this category in Special:Diff/886229099. —⁠andrybak (talk) 13:28, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:FootballDatabase.eu template using non-numeric ID

Nominator's rationale: Template:FootballDatabase.eu stopped using this category for tracking in 2022, see Special:Diff/1125919207. —⁠andrybak (talk) 13:17, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
See also Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion § C4 – unused maintenance categories. —⁠andrybak (talk) 13:22, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Princes of Venice

Nominator's rationale: delete, not a defining characteristic, neither for the vice roy of Kingdom of Italy (Napoleonic) neither for the claimed head of the former royal family of Italy. And these two articles is all there is in the category. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:16, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Category:Kevin Costner albums

Nominator's rationale: There has only been one item in this category for the last sixteen years. Overcategorization. Nicholas0 (talk) 12:02, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Breeds originating from Indigenous people

Nominator's rationale: rename for clarification. Also, I have just added this to the tree of Category:Mammal breeds. An alternative could be to upmerge the category to Category:Mammal breeds and Category:Indigenous culture. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:40, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Suggestion. What about Breeds/Mammal breeds domesticated by Indigenous people? The current name and the proposal both sound really awkward to me. Mason (talk) 19:03, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Philippine Sports Commission

Nominator's rationale: Unneeded eponymous category that contains nothing apart from the main article. Paul_012 (talk) 04:04, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Update: In light of the population of the category since the nomination, I'm willing to withdraw my nomination (though it should continue as there has also been another delete !vote). --Paul_012 (talk) 12:11, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose At the time of nominate, indeed the category contained only the eponymous article. I have since added applicable entries to the category. Hariboneagle927 (talk) 06:33, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 02:42, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Multiple citizenship

Option A: rename Category:Multiple citizenship to Category:Multiple nationality.
OR: option B: rename Category:People with multiple nationality to Category:People with multiple citizenship.
Rationale: consistency. Until other arguments weigh in, option B is the preferred option per article title Multiple citizenship. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:51, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 02:42, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Asian conservative liberals

Nominator's rationale: These categories are extremely vague. An extremely CFD on classically similar categories have been purged Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_June_3#Classical_liberals Mason (talk) 02:22, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:LGBT men artists

Nominator's rationale: Moving to [full]. Norm is "Male artists". For the record, the speedy rename was supported by the category creator. @MikutoH and Marcocapelle: discussants. Mason (talk) 12:55, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Marcocapelle: Do you have any sources for the claim that calling transgender men "male" could be slightly confusing or ambiguous? And can you please doublecheck that with a person or source you trust because I believe that is incorrect. Polygnotus (talk) 13:50, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I have already said that the terms female and male are often associated with sex assigned at birth and given a source for that. And no, I am not going to come up with unverifiable information like you do, that is entirely against the spirit of Wikipedia. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:56, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Marcocapelle: So, in summary: you wrote something that isn't true (Calling transgender men "male" could be slightly awkward), I tried to help you by pointing it out, then you changed it to two other claims that are also not true ("Calling transgender men "male" could be slightly confusing" and "Calling transgender men "male" could be slightly ambiguous") and now you made a new claim (I have already said that the terms female and male are often associated with sex assigned at birth and given a source for that.) that also isn't true (that source does not support that claim). You are perhaps misremembering the part where it says: Youth reported their sex assigned at birth by answering: “What is your sex?” Response options were female or male. Although this question does not refer to sex assigned at birth specifically, several studies have found that TGD youth are likely to understand “sex” to be sex assigned at birth rather than gender identity (the source says that the word "sex" is understood to mean sex assigned at birth rather than gender identity, not that the words "male" and "female" are associated with sex assigned at birth). I have asked you to provide a source for your claims that calling transgender men "male" could be slightly confusing or ambiguous and in response you wrote: I am not going to come up with unverifiable information like you do. That does not make sense. Polygnotus (talk) 14:17, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@MikutoH: did vote but on the talkpage, not here. I have left a message on their talkpage asking them to vote here. Polygnotus (talk) 17:11, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 02:14, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Literary critics by ethnicity

Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's no need to have a single category isolated like this. Mason (talk) 01:14, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:18, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I created the category because I needed a parent category for Category:Aromanian literary critics. Now it is getting nominated for deletion. Sooner or later someone editing in the Kurdish topic area (for example) will also need this category (unless no Kurdish literary critics have ever existed). They'll create the category and again it will have one single member and find itself here. What is the sense of this? Just leave the category and it will enlarge with time. There is no benefit from this. Super Ψ Dro 09:28, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Now there's another category. Super Ψ Dro 09:48, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please don't make categories with one page in them. Creating Kurdish literary critics isn't helpful unless you populate it. Mason (talk) 14:53, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Why are you requesting me that I do not create appropriate categories? There must surely be other Kurdish literary critics, this is an ethnic group of around 40 million people. It is not helpful to expect one user to bother addressing arbitrary nitpicks in obscure technical areas of Wikipedia rather than letting the categories naturally grow. Deleting the categories is helpful to exactly zero readers. Super Ψ Dro 16:49, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have spent 20 minutes looking through Kurdish writer biographies to find literary critics. The category now has 5 people. There were some other biographies who were described as "critics" which were probably fit for the category but didn't want to risk it because I am not an expert on Kurdish topics. It should have been someone who was, rather than me pushed by an useless nomination, that populated the category.
Regarding Aromanians I am the author of dozens of Aromanian biographies in Wikipedia. I will eventually get my way to other Aromanian literary critics and use the category. I wouldn't have created the category if I didn't know it'd be included into several biographies in the future. The category will exist in some years anyway and deleting it right now is only to fullfill a false sense of order. I ask not to be pushed into rushing new articles just for the sake of this nomination. This is not the purpose of volunteering at Wikipedia. Super Ψ Dro 17:13, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It should be under Category:Literary critics by language if it concerns an ethnolinguistic group this is your own opinion. We have many categories of profession and ethnicity. Language and ethnicity are not the same, the latter categories are necessary for stateless groups. In some of the categories at Category:Literary critics by language, there are people not belonging to the ethnic groups that speak those languages. For example at Category:Literary critics of Arabic there are Luc-Willy Deheuvels and Emilio García Gómez. Super Ψ Dro 16:49, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]


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