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This page was proposed for deletion by Significa liberdade (talk · contribs) on 30 August 2024 with the comment:
Page created in violation of a contentious topic restriction or other general sanction, with no substantial edits by others. Topic: Russo-Ukrainian War. See CSD G5.
It was contested by Red-tailed hawk (talk · contribs) on 2024-08-30 with the comment:
CSD Declined. This was accepted at AfC by an ECR editor, so the deletion is not uncontroversial.

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@Jdcomix and @42manako: This article is about a person accused of a crime, but without a convictions being secured. Such people should be presumed innocent until found guilty and convicted in court. WP:BLPCRIME advises that editors must seriously consider not including material—in any article—that suggests the person has committed or is accused of having committed a crime, unless a conviction has been secured. So why has this article been written and accepted in a matter of minutes, without any obvious consideration of this requirement?. Criminals who are only known in connection with a single crime should not have their own Wikipedia articles. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 20:27, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Cameron Dewe: Understood, I have made the relevant changes to the wording in the article, to reflect Budnik's status as not yet found guilty. - 42manako — Preceding undated comment added 20:38, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@42manako: What BLPCRIME is saying is that you should not be including any content about the criminal accusations made against this person, at all. He has not been convicted, yet, so these crimes are not yet notable to even justify an article. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 19:11, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because it provides further information on a topic discussed briefly in a different page, and also provides information on a pending legal case from the US DoJ. --42manako (talk) 16:43, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@42manako: Which is where it should be merged back into and remain as part of a larger article, according to WP:CRIME. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 19:19, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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