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**'''Question''' aren't the words "automated" and "software" largely redundant? Not all software is automated, but I don't see how theorem proving can be automated without software. --[[User:BrownHairedGirl|BrownHairedGirl]] <small>[[User_talk:BrownHairedGirl|(talk)]] • ([[Special:Contributions/BrownHairedGirl|contribs]])</small> 15:54, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
**'''Question''' aren't the words "automated" and "software" largely redundant? Not all software is automated, but I don't see how theorem proving can be automated without software. --[[User:BrownHairedGirl|BrownHairedGirl]] <small>[[User_talk:BrownHairedGirl|(talk)]] • ([[Special:Contributions/BrownHairedGirl|contribs]])</small> 15:54, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
:::"I have some Automated Theorem Proving software". "I have some Automated Theorem Proving". The 2nd sentence doesn't work. So "software" is not redundant in the sense of being an understood meaning when omitted. [[User:Rwwww|tooold]] ([[User talk:Rwwww|talk]]) 16:22, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
:::"I have some Automated Theorem Proving software". "I have some Automated Theorem Proving". The 2nd sentence doesn't work. So "software" is not redundant in the sense of being an understood meaning when omitted. [[User:Rwwww|tooold]] ([[User talk:Rwwww|talk]]) 16:22, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Possibly instead of "better", I should have said "consistent with the naming convention of adding "software" to the article name. [[Special:Contributions/69.106.226.205|69.106.226.205]] ([[User talk:69.106.226.205|talk]]) 04:51, 18 November 2007 (UTC)


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November 16

Category:Six Flags parks and attractions

Suggest merging Category:Six Flags parks and attractions to Category:Six Flags
Nominator's rationale: Merge. No reason for this extra level. All of the roller coasters are being moved into a specific sub category. What's left here and in the parent are so few that we don't need two categories. Vegaswikian (talk) 23:03, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Heritage Canada

Propose renaming Category:Heritage Canada to Category:Canadian Heritage
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Heritage Canada and Canadian Heritage are, confusingly, two different things. The Heritage Canada article is about a non-governmental charitable foundation. The cultural department whose agencies are being categorized is in fact called Department of Canadian Heritage. So Category:Canadian Heritage would be more accurate.-- Shawn in Montreal (talk) 21:42, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
That would be fine by me, too. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 19:36, 17 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Screenshots of The Big O

Category:Screenshots of The Big O to Category:The Big O media

More inclusive name. This way, everything from screen shots, covers and artwork from the series can be categorized.Nohansen 00:08, 15 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Canadian councillors

More inclusive name for the categories. The ultimate reason why this is necessary is revealed by the fact that a capital C is the only thing currently distinguishing the category for city councillors in the province of Quebec from the category for city councillors in Quebec City. Bearcat 11:47, 14 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The only reason it's even getting listed anywhere is that I haven't been able to boot into my Windows partition for about six weeks now, so I can't do an AWB run by myself. It'd have been done over a month ago if I could have. Try as I might, I just can't make myself see it as a change that requires any kind of debate. Bearcat 09:13, 15 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that there probably won't be any objection to it, but it's not covered by any of the types of change which can be speedied (as listed above) - it is possible that someone would be able to think of a reason to keep city and town categories separate. Grutness...wha? 22:42, 15 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Journalism academics

Propose renaming Category:Journalism academics to Category:Journalism scholars
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Like legal scholars, many journalism scholars are not in the academy, or only teach as adjuncts. Of the 10 scholars in the category, about half are not tenure-track academics, but either adjuncted or had administrative positions at journalism "centers" at universities. They are certainly "journalism scholars" and there is no reason to distinguish between the full-time tenure-track academics and those who have done scholarship through other types of positions. ---- Lquilter (talk) 21:12, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I only found two "scholars of" formulas: Scholars of Marxism and Scholars of antisemitism. I'm not sure the more explicit formulation is needed here -- "Journalism scholars" seems pretty clear -- but I don't object if consensus goes that way. --Lquilter (talk) 04:29, 17 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
There are a variety of formulae: Category:Talmudists, Category:Scholars of Marxism, Category:Biblical scholars and some rather ambiguous ones - Category:Feminist scholars is I suppose not "Scholars of Feminism", nor Category:Middle East scholars (only 2 members) only for people from the Middle east. It's not about clarity, but grammar. Category:International relations scholars and Category:African American studies scholars are I think the only "non-proper noun+scholar" combos at present, & they should be changed too, to "Scholars of...". Johnbod (talk) 04:50, 17 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Agree on the latter two categories you mention, but not on the reason1 The only reason we ought to care about the grammar in this instance I think is only to aid clarity. (Intl relations scholars is not actually that confusing but it's funny....) -- Lquilter

Category:Spoiler warning templates

Category:Spoiler warning templates - Template:Lc1
Nominator's rationale: Delete. Only one item in the category which is currently up for deletion as well. -- Axem Titanium (talk) 21:06, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Colossus class battleships

Propose renaming Category:Colossus class battleships to Category:Colossus class battleships (1910)
Nominator's rationale: There were two Colossus classes: one in 1910 and one in 1882. There is already a Category:Colossus class battleships (1882); this one needs to be renamed to make the difference between the two clear. This is a common type of rename, and there are several examples of identically named class categories disambiguated by year in use already. -- TomTheHand (talk) 18:50, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Interchanges

Category:Interchanges - Template:Lc1
Category:Interchanges of Japan - Template:Lc1
Nominator's rationale: Empty categories. Sushiya 15:29, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Amphibious assault ships -> Amphibious warfare vessels

Suggest merging Category:Amphibious assault ships to Category:Amphibious warfare vessels
Suggest renaming:
Nominator's rationale: The purpose of this merge is to standardize naming of categories for amphibious warfare vessels, which are kind of a mess now. The change from "amphibious assault" to "amphibious warfare" is because "amphibious assault ship" is a fairly specific term, and does not reflect how the categories are actually used. They are being used to categorize a variety of ships involved in amphibious warfare. The change from "ships" to "vessels" is intended to allow the categories to be used for vessels that aren't really ships. TomTheHand 15:06, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Steamboat Companies in Pacific Northwest

Suggest merging Category:Steamboat Companies in Pacific Northwest to Category:UNKNOWN
Nominator's rationale:: Merge this overly-narrow, orphaned category to somewhere, but I don't know where. Any ideas? (all three companies were based in Oregon). --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:48, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
PS That's the end of today's orphaned categories. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:52, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Steamboats in Pacific Northwest

Suggest merging Category:Steamboats in Pacific Northwest to Category:UNKNOWN
Nominator's rationale: Merge this overly-narrow orphaned category to somewhere, but I don't know where. Category:Paddle steamers isn't quite accurate, and Category: Steamships seems too broad. Any ideas? --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:44, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Gangs in the United States of America (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Rename to Category:Gangs in the United States, to match United States. -- Prove It (talk) 14:34, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Propaganda phrases

Category:Propaganda phrases - Template:Lc1
Nominator's rationale: Delete, vague and largely POV category. One woman's factual-description of the truth-as-she-sees-it is another's propaganda, and vice-versa. See also Category talk: Propaganda phrases. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:23, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Safety Engineering

Suggest merging Category:Safety Engineering to Category:Safety engineering
Nominator's rationale: Merge as duplicate, possible speedy (capitalisation error). BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:13, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Controversies involving tasers

Propose renaming Category:Controversies involving tasers to Category:Electroshock weapon controversies
Nominator's rationale: Rename to match head article Electroshock weapon controversy. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:06, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Old Forres Sandle Manor Students

Category:Old Forres Sandle Manor Students - Template:Lc1
Nominator's rationale: Delete single-article category rescued from the orphanage,possible hoax. There is no article on the school, and the sole article in the category is Olly Morgan, which not only fails to mention the school, but lists him in the infobox as having attended Millfield School. Neither of the two profiles of him linked from the article mentions Old Forres Sandle Manor, although the school does appear to exist: see http://www.forressandlemanor.com --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:02, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Jesuit colleges in India

Suggest merging Category:Jesuit colleges in India to Category:Jesuit schools in India
Nominator's rationale: Merge as duplicate. All these institutions appear to be schools, it's just that some of them are called "foo College", a common naming convention for Jesuit schools. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:46, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Religious organizations which tolerate polygamy

Category:Religious organizations which tolerate polygamy - Template:Lc1
Nominator's rationale: This category is empty except for the subcategory Category:Mormon fundamentalism, which has (some of) the same parent categories as this one. Suggest deleting until needed. Alternatively, can it be populated with anything? Snocrates 11:55, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Crime in fiction

Suggest merging Category:Crime in fiction to Category:Crime fiction
Nominator's rationale: Merge, This category only contains Category:Crime fiction . --Eliyak T·C 11:52, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete while a nuanced distinction could be drawn, there is no apparent attempt to do so, and it probably wouldn't be keepable as many non-"crime fiction" fictional books have some crime happening in them: much of Mark Twain's output and the whole genre of mysteries could be shoehorned into that. -- Carlossuarez46 (talk) 17:55, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep and populate Crime occurs in fiction which is not crime fiction. Quite a few crimes form the basis of non-crime fiction stories, where the consequences of the crime (such as war) is the focus. -- 132.205.99.122 (talk) 19:16, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Members of Associazione Culturale Nove

Category:Members of Associazione Culturale Nove - Template:Lc1
Nominator's rationale: Delete. Single-article orphaned category. The lone article Jerry Ross (painter) doesn't mention the Associazione Culturale Nove, and there is no article Associazione Culturale Nove. If such an article is written, it's members could be listed in the article. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 11:16, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Gator Olympians

Category:Gator Olympians - Template:Lc1
Nominator's rationale: Delete. I'm not entirely sure what this category is intended for, but my best guess so far is that it is intended to include athletes from the Florida Gators who later participate in the olympics. This seems to me to be a vary narrow intersection, with limited possibility for growth (and great potential for category clutter if replicated for other sports clubs); the 5 athletes concerned should be listed in the article Florida Gators . --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:35, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:People from Sheldon

Suggest merging Category:People from Sheldon to Category:People from Birmingham, England
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge, overly narrow division of Category:People from Birmingham, England, with limited potential for growth. Council wards are too small a unit to subdivide the population of English cities; Birmingham has 40 council wards, an creating a category for each of them would merely divide a category of useable size into 40 undersized categories. Additionally, council wards are not stable units, being subject to periodic review by the Boundary Committee for England. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:27, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The area has been inhabited since before theDomesday Book - it may be a council ward now but it will not disappear if boundaries are changed. The category member Increase Nowell is simply not from Birmingham - Sheldon had no link to the city in 1590. Any wider geographical category will be inaccurate (either currently or historically).Aatomic1 11:57, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Reply the same applies to countless other small geographical divisions of England, and of many other countries. Unless we are going to create thousands of tiny categories of people-by-place-in-England, we have to accept some imprecision. One possible solution is to also categorise the people by whatever county they would have been before the city boundaries were extended to include Sheldon. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:52, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Categories exist to aid navigation. Do we really want to start splitting the 390 articles in Category:People from Birmingham, England into 40 subdivisions (one per ward), with an average of 9 articles in each? Categories exist to assist reader navigation, and that only impedes navigation. People move around within cities, so many biographical articles would be categorised under more than one subdivision of Brum, creating category clutter. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:18, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Particle in a box

Suggest merging Category:Particle in a box to Category:Quantum models
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge two-article category with little scope for expansion. (rescued from the orphanage). --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:04, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Theorem provers

Propose renaming Category:Theorem provers to Category:Theorem proving software
Nominator's rationale: Most categories used for software have either "software" or "(software)" as part of the name. Thus quickly identified in lists of subcategories and supporting "Category:software" searches. tooold 08:57, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
"I have some Automated Theorem Proving software". "I have some Automated Theorem Proving". The 2nd sentence doesn't work. So "software" is not redundant in the sense of being an understood meaning when omitted. tooold (talk) 16:22, 17 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Possibly instead of "better", I should have said "consistent with the naming convention of adding "software" to the article name. 69.106.226.205 (talk) 04:51, 18 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:People from Orlando Florida

Suggest merging Category:People from Orlando Florida to Category:People from Orlando, Florida
Nominator's rationale: Merge as duplicate, possible speedy. (I found this one in the orphanage). BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:00, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Subcategories of Category:Political parties in Indian states

Propose renaming All subcats of Category:Political parties in Indian states.
Nominator's rationale: I'm proposing all subcategories of this be renamed to more normal titles; for example, I think Category:Indian political parties-Sikkim should become Category:Political parties of Sikkim, or something similar. The current names, with these dashes, are unnecessarily awkward. Picaroon (t) 02:46, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I do think it worth keeping the fact that these are federal states in India, not countries, in the titles. Johnbod (talk) 03:37, 17 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category: Runestones, Skåne

Propose merging: Category:Runestones, Skåne into Category:Runestones in Scania
Nominator's rationale: The main entry is Scania. Two duplicating categories exist for the same articles: "Runestones in Scania"/"Runestones, Skåne". Following the decision in another renaming discussion,[1] where it was decided that the name should be in the format "Runestones in Scania", I suggest a merger of "Runestones, Skåne" into that category, rather than the other way around. The articles in this newly created and newly populated category were moved here by depopluating Category:Runestones in Scania. Pia 02:13, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Zenit football managers

Propose renaming Category:Zenit football managers to Category:FC Zenit Saint Petersburg managers
Nominator's rationale: Rename to match the team's article name and the format of Category:FC Zenit Saint Petersburg players. Carlossuarez46 01:49, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Web mashups

Category:Web mashups - Template:Lc1
Nominator's rationale: Delete one item category, that could probably contain more as the definition of the term in our article is sufficiently loosey-goosey that nearly all web applications may qualify so ultimately not-defining. Carlossuarez46 01:41, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:U.S. Route 36

Category:U.S. Route 36 - Template:Lc1
Nominator's rationale: Delete two article category for a road, not much room for expansion. Carlossuarez46 01:12, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:The Gazette

Category:The Gazette - Template:Lc1
Nominator's rationale: Delete eponymous category for a band per multiple precedents. Carlossuarez46 01:10, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Lists of Desperate Housewives characters

Category:Lists of Desperate Housewives characters - Template:Lc1
Nominator's rationale: Delete: Only one member, due to deletion of all other members. CrazyLegsKC 01:09, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Interstate 72

Category:Interstate 72 - Template:Lc1
Nominator's rationale: Delete one-item category for a 300km stretch of road, not much room for expansion of either the road or the category. Carlossuarez46 01:04, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]