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Ed, it's been a long time since I last talked to you. How are you doing these days? Try to log on to AIM, but since you didn't for a while, I assume that your macbook is still under repair. Anyways, during recent times, I have been reading about history on Wikipedia, meaning, more reading than editing. And I tried to settle down arguments, and unite the English and Esperanto wikipedias. My Japanese is still the same level, so I didn't really improve on anything language-wise. And, I'm planning to get Halo 3 if I have the chance! So, plz com to aim or call or something (not my house though, log on to aim for # (I cannot say it here cuz of automated-spaming-fon#-tracker-botz). 그럼, 다시 만날때까지. さよなら。[[User:Amphitere|Amphitere]] 04:10, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
Ed, it's been a long time since I last talked to you. How are you doing these days? Try to log on to AIM, but since you didn't for a while, I assume that your macbook is still under repair. Anyways, during recent times, I have been reading about history on Wikipedia, meaning, more reading than editing. And I tried to settle down arguments, and unite the English and Esperanto wikipedias. My Japanese is still the same level, so I didn't really improve on anything language-wise. And, I'm planning to get Halo 3 if I have the chance! So, plz com to aim or call or something (not my house though, log on to aim for # (I cannot say it here cuz of automated-spaming-fon#-tracker-botz). 그럼, 다시 만날때까지. さよなら。[[User:Amphitere|Amphitere]] 04:10, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

== Liancourt old map ==

Hello Odst, I'm [[User:Watermint|Watermint]]. Regarding your recently edits [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Liancourt_Rocks&diff=177539161&oldid=177406753], [[User:Opp2|Opp2]] is demanding to explain a reason for your revert as [[Talk:Liancourt Rocks#Sangoku setsujozu]]. According his objection, two islands drawn on center of the sea in Hayashi's old map. The interpretation with these equivalent to which present island is divided between Korean scholar and Japanese scholar. The Korean scholar interprets those two islands as Ullung-do and Tokdo ([http://www2.gol.com/users/hsmr/Content/East%20Asia/Korea/Dokto_Island/Maps/Sangoku_1785.html]), but the Japanese scholar interprets those as Ullung-do and [[Jukdo]] ([[http://www.pref.shimane.lg.jp/soumu/web-takeshima/takeshima04/takeshima04_01/index.data/11_c.pdf] P149).

Therefore, he suggest to change the contents as followings;
:''Following the diplomatic spat ..... On the map Ulleungdo and a '''islet''' are shown, at the correct latitude and longitude, in yellow. Alongside the islands Hayashi wrote, "Korea's possessions." Korean scholer say this '''islet''' is Liancourt Rocks. Japanese say this is Jukdo from the distance with Ulleungdo.''

His change seems to me more suitable for NPOV rather than the currently description. Please let us know what is the reason for your revert?--<font color="#8689c3">[[User:Watermint|W/mint]]</font><sup><font color="#2a6e6b">[[User Talk:Watermint|-Talk-]]</font></sup> 12:32, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

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huh?

Huh? Odst 00:37, 9 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If you don't agree that your comment should have been interpreted as a racist personal attack, I invite you to ask the opinion of anyone on the List of administrators. Better still, ask several. KarlBunker 02:14, 9 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Kim Si-min

A tag has been placed on Kim Si-min, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a very short article providing little or no context to the reader. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. If you plan to add more material to the article, I advise you to do so immediately. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources which verify their content. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself. To contest the tagging and request that administrators wait a while for you to add contextual material, please affix the template {{hangon}} to the page and state your intention on the article's talk page. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Alekjds TALK 09:22, 15 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's not a problem. I did some research, and he seems like a notable enough figure to merit having his own page. A pointer would be to develop a page for Kim Si-min in your sandbox (such as at User:Odst/Kim_Si-min for example; just create the page and it's part of your user page). Then you can move it to the mainpage when it's of good enough quality to at least be a stub. As for your question why I'm up so late, it's because I can be. Cheers. Alekjds TALK 09:39, 15 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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그래. 한번 잘 싸워 보자.

넌 몇 학년이냐? 고등학생이냐? 야, 그리고...... ㅋㅋㅋ 너 사극을 너무 많이 본것같아. ㅋㅋ. 괜찮아. 나도 연개소문, 주몽, 대조영. 다 지금 보고 있어. ㅋㅋㅋㅋ. 너도 보지? 미국에 살는거지? how long have u lived here? 난 사실 얼마 전에 이거 하다가 싸움에 지쳤어. 소영없는 이런 싸움. 근대 이 위키피디아는 국재적으로 중요하지. 우리 나라 역사가 더욱 더 잘 알려 진다면. 확실한 증거랑 진실한 역사가 적혀지기만 발한다. 그 뜻에 같이 한번 잘해보자고. 도움이 필료한 곳이 있으면 말해조. 근대 고구려 패이지는 진짜 싸울 필료가 없어. 그리고 싸우는것이 시간이 아주 아까워. 그러니까 딴대에 집중해. 지금 짱개 새끼들이 북한 땅을 엄청 사고있어. 이것이 우리 한태 아주 큰 도움과 증거가 되고 있어. 오랑캐 놈들이 우리 역사를 빼서 갈려고 하는 이유가 바로 우리 만주 땅을 원해서. 아무튼 방갑다. i think i wrote a lil too much. hahahaha. u can read Korean well, rite? aiight, well i'll talk to u later. --Kprideboi 01:44, 29 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete the image if it vilates anything... but dont tell me to do it.

Gipumjo

Hi, I see you're a member of WikiProject Korea and wonder if you can help me with an inquiry. Is there a group of "entertainment women" (maybe translated variously as "pleasure groups," "pleasure squad," or "pleasure brigade") maintained by Kim Jong-Il and his father called gipumjo? I have heard about this but cannot find anything about it online. Maybe my spelling is wrong. I think we should have an article about this, as it doesn't seem to be discussed anywhere. Thanks in advance for information bout this. Badagnani 06:00, 2 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I have no special interest beyond a general interest in Korean culture, music, and cuisine (not politics particularly), but a friend just forwarded me Feb. 1st's article from the South China Morning Post describing the life of the 35-year-old son of Kim Jong-il, who apparently lives with his family in Macau. His mother, and some of Kim Jong-il's mistresses have been from this troupe so I looked for information in his article, but there really isn't anything. I'm fairly sure that the pronunciation is something like gipumjo but I don't know the exact hangul. Badagnani 06:13, 2 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

OK, someone helped with the hangul. Any idea of the hanja? The first syllable is 氣. I made an article here; can you check it? There may be better resources in Korean, though maybe not all completely accurate. Badagnani 19:32, 2 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Korean cuisine

Thanks. While you're at it, I'll say that I've made and fixed up a lot of articles on Korean foods and wines, but I'm not Korean so occasionally I need someone to verify things. Would you be interested or willing to help with these kinds of articles? Badagnani 06:06, 2 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ongnyugeum

Hi, any idea how to spell (in hangul and/or hanja) ongnyugeum? It's apparently a large modernized box zither with 32 nylon-wrapped metal strings, developed in North Korea in 1973. I saw a photo in a book but there's no Korean spelling. Thus I can't find even one website in English about this contraption. Thanks, Badagnani 06:35, 6 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have never hear of it. i'll try and look it up. Odst 15:33, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you; I found it with some help, and added the information at Traditional Korean musical instruments. Badagnani 03:12, 9 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]


How do you know that? It was very long ago. Maybe named for the Gaya confederacy. Badagnani 03:59, 9 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's a family tree of Yangbans (all men?), going back to Gaya, Silla, and Goryeo. But who is the inventor of the gayageum? It was modified from a Chinese instrument, the zheng. How do you know who did that in Korea? Badagnani 04:23, 9 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]


regarding recent edit to USS Tang (SS-563)

Hi, I just noticed your edit [1] in which your edit summary was 'removed vandalism'. Just so that you know this isn't vandalism. In fact most Navy ships are sponsored by a woman, usually the wife or daughter of some officer or some local official, in this case the wife of Richard O'Kane. You can see this is also true from the DANFS entry [2]. I just thought I should let you know this isn't a mistake, or vandalism. Thanks -- malo (tlk) (cntrbtns) 06:33, 5 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Thanks for the Barnstar. I appreciate it. --Nlu (talk) 07:06, 6 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

User notice: temporary 3RR block

Regarding reversions[3] made on March 6 2007 to Goguryeo

You have been temporarily blocked for violation of the three-revert rule. Please feel free to return after the block expires, but also please make an effort to discuss your changes further in the future.
The duration of the block is 8 hours. William M. Connolley 09:34, 6 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]




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I can't say anything for my happy-ness is over flowing. Welcome back, sir Odst. My essay maybe poor, but it's what I wrote for school. And I didn't delete the custom thing, cause I couldn't think of anything else to put. And since ur back, get back on AIM too. Ciao. Amphitere 17:23, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Rfc

See Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Jiejunkong. (Wikimachine 03:09, 10 July 2007 (UTC))[reply]

What is problem?

I'm not good at English as much as I want to be good at it. Since I can't speak English well, please understand me even if I make mistakes.

한국어로 해주세요... 대충 해석은 되는데, 완벽하게 해석하지 못해서 잘못하면 님이 저한테 시비거는 것으로 생각되서요...Korea history 18:49, 14 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Destiny? do you mean gundam? I think destiny's worse than original. Everything's so cheesy.

Noto.

Nlu is not blocked. It's just a joke. I was surprised when I first saw it too. ^^. Hey, don't be mean to koreahistory, he devoted his life into editing and creating korean articles. You think that nationality is something bad, but if no one had nationality, then there will be no competitivness, and therefore no improvement in the society of human beings. Please consider my opinion, and assume good faith in Wikipedia. (I'm saying all of this as a friend, not a stranger).Amphitere


Gam-Tan.

I am awed by the ability of your writing, and stuff. You sound like a real man (as in uh-reun). Ok, I understand your point, and will try to follow it. But, since you know so much, it would be better if you can realize the reality too. I was shocked at first by this reality, and felt emotionally distorted, but now, I have to learn a way to bring myself back together. The contents in the following site will give you a way of viewing things differently, no, the way of viewing things for what it really was, and what it truly is. This is all true, all true. Amphitere 04:47, 15 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

ok.

I don't want to get in a fight with you, for u r my friend and adviser. But, what I'm confused about is... How can you just criticize on one race? As if... "most" of the people in that race were -the things that you said on your paragraph-. So, I put Japanese and Chinese there, because they are the same. Actually, all countries are the same in the term of greed, etc. all the stuff u said. But...no one realizes it. So, my point is that, you can' t just pick one race and criticize it, you can't criticize any race. ANY! Ok, maybe it is alright to criticize a little, but the way you said it, is impolite. Imagine other Koreans reading it and look like they were just hit by lightning, or Japanese people reading it and laughing at a person who says bad things about his own country. So... if you understand me, I didn't correct your paragraph because of racism, but because of equality.

But, it is against the wiki norm to edit another person's userpage without permission. Therefore, I will be prepared to receive punishments. Maybe I should have told you that the things that you wrote on your paragraph were not worded very appropriately. Even if the "Freedom of Userpages" exist, there are still rules that can not be disobeyed. I hope the you understood what I said. With regrets of my own foolish actions, I apologize to thee greatly. Amphitere 03:39, 16 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Carefully reconsider

Please explain why you reverted my edits on anti-Japanese sentiment. The changes I made were all well-motivated:

1. The paragraph was in a mess, switching from WWII to trade and back again. 2. The section made reference to Japanese prejudice against the West (White barbarians, etc.). This is not relevant to the article, which is about anti-Japanese sentiment (and besides, I would like to know what Japanese phrases these terms are a translation of). 3. The assertion that "Japan has rejected all compensation demands of China origin up until July 2007" is patently false if you read the sources given (have you?) 4. The statements regarding 'medieval times' and 'Because of an entire millenia of tension and distrust between these three powers' are not sourced and don't make sense.

Your subsequent edits ride delete an entire section that has been written by other editors and is, in addition, poorly written, marked by bad spelling, grammar, and markup. They are also broad brush statements that are virtually meaningless (What exactly does "The atrocities committed before and during world war two by the Imperial Japansese Army and the respective regimes before the Meiji restoration have not been forgotten, and effect maritime relationships between Japan and other Nations in Asia, particularly with People's Republic of China, The Rpublic of Korea, and theDemocratic People's Republic of Korea]]" mean? That past Japanese atrocities are stopping Japanese ships from going to these countries?)

I would be grateful if you could explain the basis for your edits.

Bathrobe 00:54, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think that you've greatly improved the article. The statement about 'maritime relations' still doesn't make sense. I also don't agree with characterising Chinese compensation demands as 'outrageous'.
I think that the section needs rewriting, firstly to make it more coherent, and secondly to remove all the statements and "facts" that try to show how many grudges people have against the Japanese. It really doesn't help either the Koreans or Chinese when too much anti-Japanese sentiment is expressed in the article itself, because people will just conclude that such editors just have a chip on their shoulders.
Also, what do you base your edits on? A desire to improve the English? A desire to improve the coherency of the article? Or a desire to have your own views reflected in the article? If that is the case, exactly what views are you trying to have reflected?
Bathrobe 01:21, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
It's OK. User:LDHan has reverted your edits. The section is still pretty poorly written, but I suggest that before you go in and change anything, you consider (1) exactly what you want to do and whether it is an improvement (2) whether it is motivated. For instance, how do you know that Chinese claims for compensation are "outrageous"? Do you have a source to prove that this is true? As far as I know, nobody has said that they are outrageous. Using the word "outrageous" expresses a very strong judgement and shouldn't be done lightly. Similarly for other changes.
Also, try using the "Show preview" function to see what the page is going to look like before you save it.
Bathrobe 02:26, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm afraid my revert has been reverted by Odst.

Please provide a edit summary when you edit an article. Contrary to your claim that "No information was changed or distorted." actually your unexplained edits did removed content, two paragraphs were completely removed without any explanation. LDHan 02:50, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If you have made a mistake, the best thing is to revert and start again, this time with edit summaries. LDHan 02:57, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Removal of paragraph

I'm really sorry Odst, I was in fact planning to put that back again, except in better English & with better citation. The thing is that I adopted a new method of editing Wikipedia - copy pasting the wiki onto rich text format & then editing it off line & then copy pasting back. I'm sorry. (Wikimachine 02:26, 22 July 2007 (UTC))[reply]

I saw your edit & that confuses me. Didn't you revert or move something back? Where did I remove it? (Wikimachine 02:28, 22 July 2007 (UTC))[reply]

Odst, I sadly overwrote your edit. I had a version that I had worked for several hours so I couldn't help but to copy paste. I'll try to restore what I can. (Wikimachine 02:47, 22 July 2007 (UTC))[reply]

No I think that we're working on two different sections. There should be no problem restoring. (Wikimachine 02:48, 22 July 2007 (UTC))[reply]

Oh no, I already restored so, thx for your concern. I'm trying to get this article to featured status by tonight or tomorrow morning. (Wikimachine 02:52, 22 July 2007 (UTC))[reply]

Thx. I see I'm not the only one trying to get hands on those books. I went to the main library yesterday & got the Stephen Turnbull's Samurai Invasion book so it got me pretty happy & it's pretty fun to read. All this time, I've been gathering materials for the Imjin War & now I'm ready to make this article a featured one. (Wikimachine 03:03, 22 July 2007 (UTC))[reply]


Article on Biryu's kingdom

I'm the idiot that wrote the article Former Baekje. I wasn't drunk or high when i wrote that article. I knew what I was doing, and I would greatly appreciate if you would discuss with me whatever you happen to find inappropriate next time. Maybe the name "Former Baekje" wasn't a real good name for it, but Korean historians have produced new results from their studies of Onjo's older brother Biryu and his kingdom. Would you like me to show you?? As a fellow Korean Wikipedian, I would like to discuss with you and not start a pointless argument. Please understand this. I'll be waiting for your reply. --Kprideboi 01:56, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Haha. No, you did not hurt my feelings in saying that. I can understand your disbelief at the existence of such a subject. I admit that the title was a bit lame, and inaccurate. I also understand your frustration at seeing people distort history with the vain motives of trying to benefit their country's image. I've seen it happen, but let's not point fingers. I did not do anything out of ambition or out of greed. And NO. It never was about pride or nationalism. I'm doing this not only for my counry, but also because I have a passion for our country's history. I do not intend to distort any articles in order to "glorify" our country. That is something that ruins my personal pride and ruins the image of my people as you mentioned. Yes, it is BULLSHIT. I detest that sort of dishonesty just as much as you do. Now, let's put all aggression aside and try to get to the source of our conflict. I did not come to work on Wikipedia to raise my blood pressure, and get an early grave. Now, about Biryu Baekje. Tell me what you would like for me to do, and what you think about it. I hope that we may work together, as we do share some similar passions. --Kprideboi 18:41, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

First, I want to thank you for understanding and being open to peaceful discussion. Now, to business. The sources I found for Biryu Baekje are not from a textbook, but an analysis that was copied onto a blog. By the way, don't feel sorry about that. You're a hard worker, and I respect you for that. Besides, I've heard worse from other people before. Hahaha. Ok, this is a source for Wutae. http://blog.empas.com/jklee68/15362662. Wutae is recorded as a 서손 of King Hae Buru. I dont know what 서손 is, but it is recorded in this source. He isn't a follower of Yeon Ta-Bal as seen in the drama, but he did exist and he was the first husband of Soseuno. Soseuno was actually a few years older that Chumo Taewang. I did not have time to look for a source today because I am busy in real life just as you are. Can you agree not to perform any actions until I've given you a source? Believe me, I do have sources. I'm not wasting your time. Go to Naver.co.kr, and type in 비류백제. There will be several pages. There will be an accurate source or an analysis that would explain the existence of Biryu's kingdom, and how this came to be. Good night. If you did not find a source on naver, then I will look for it directly. --Kprideboi 03:14, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]



Biryu Baekje

I made my reponse on the article's talk page, if you're interested. Cydevil38 00:38, 31 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Aranbul

According to Encyclopedia Britannica, in the founding myth of Goguryeo, Aranbul was the prime minister of Bukbuyeo. After a mandate from heaven or God, he suggested moving Buyeo to present-day Gangwon province, an advice that Buyeo king Hae Buru took and put into action. The article cites Samguksagi, Samgukyusa and Donggukyisanggukjip. Cydevil38 01:36, 31 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What? i think theres a misunderstanding here. I didn't do anything to your talk page... Plus, why would I take drugs??? Watch your words monsieur. Amphitere 05:16, 4 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for the late reply. I don't think creating an article on Aranbul is necessary, because there isn't much information on him. Cydevil38 05:09, 12 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Goguryeo Revival Movements

Its me again. Kprideboi. Which facts did you find to be false and pointless? Let's discuss this. And what would you say to making a separate page for the revival movements of the individual kingdoms? Baekje's revival movement deserves more attention, as well as Goguryeo and Balhae. Tell me what you think about this.--Kprideboi 14:30, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Goguryeo-guk

That's fine then, but it's not what you said on the article's talk page, nor does it constitute a hoax. PC78 23:35, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No, you initially said that there was no such thing as Goguryeo-guk, then prodded the article and tagged it with {{hoax}}. Now you say that the revival movement was real, and that the contents of the article are not a hoax. ;) PC78 23:50, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
No worries, and you're right, I don't have much knowledge of the Korean language (or history, for that matter). I was simply addressing concerns over the prod that were raised on the project's talk page. At least we're both on the same page now! :) PC78 00:07, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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I can see that "Goguryeo-guk" was giving you a hard time. How's the "Kingdom of Bodeok." But then Bodeok was the name given to Anseung's small kingdom in Geum-Majuh after he surrendered to Silla. Alright. I suppose Goguryeo guk was a sort of lame name. You probably know by now that I'm not that good with names or sources. Learn Hanja? I can always give that a try. I know that I'll have to eventually. Ur in high school, rite? What grade? I'm rising Junior. The names that I'm gonna give for these revival movement pages. Baekje Revival Movements, etc. how does that sound?

Seriously. You sound like my tutor. lol. You seem very mature and advanced in writing and research for someone your age. Hear me out though. I won't treat you any differently just because you are younger than me. Age is nothing but a number, and I respect a person for his/her abilities and capabilities. I hope that we can put our age and differences aside and continue to work together to represent our country honorably and reveal more of its history to those who are unaware. The modifications for the "Goguryeo-guk" page I will leave for you to fix. I'll create the revival movement pages for as many of the kingdoms as i can. --Kprideboi 16:10, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]


The only sources I have are on the web. They're mostly blogs and web pages. The reason I use them for sources though is because they give good reasoning and are based on real sources. I'll create the page for Goguryeo Revival Movements and try to find proper sources on what I wrote. Always notify me when you make a change or do any sort of movements and I'll do the same. We'll accomplish alot if we work together. --Kprideboi 01:26, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think the Samguk Sagi could come in handy. I'm absolutely sure of the sites and blogs I go to. They're usually cited or give credit to an author. Are these copies on the computer? or on paper? If they're on the internet, then please send a link to me through email. My email is Kpxjosh@yahoo.com. --Kprideboi 12:27, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What do you think about the Lesser Goguryeo and Go Duk-Mu pages? --Kprideboi 18:48, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

wtf

deleted ridiculous binary shit, hehehe. Odst 22:08, 24 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

!

Alright. I'm still working on it, and I haven't been able to work on it over the past two days because the weekends and the two days leading into the weekends are all busy days for me as well. I get freed tomorrow from the dreaded chains of SAT and my tutor. Haha. I'll take your advice into deep consideration when I work on it tomorrow. --Kprideboi 05:17, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

hahaha. Are you feeling the misery of high school studying already?? I couldn't agree with you more on that. Speaking of school, I'll be starting on the 13th. I gotta get that revival movement page up before then. That's next monday. busy busy.--Kprideboi 05:10, 12 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

LR

The whole point of the sidebar on the right hand side of the LR page is to give quick information about the rocks. If you want the right bar to simply indicate 'occupation' then you need to remove additional information about what province in Korea they are in. This of course would render the bar worthless as it would look like this:

Present Occupation

Korea


The body text already gives clear information about who presently occupies the islands. Sidebars are there to present straight 'factual' information about the islands such as the size, population, location. It would be POV to have "North Gyeongsang (Ulleung County)" in the side bar but not "Shimane (Okinoshima Town, Oki District, Shimane)" . If you're not happy with the word "Administration" in the header of that sidebar then come up with something new, but it makes no sense from on informational viewpoint to have one province/prefecture over the other.

A reader coming to the LR page seeing just

South Korea

Province North Gyeongsang (Ulleung County)


with the Korean flag would conclude that the islands are Korean rather than disputed. Wikipedia is there to inform and at present keeping the sidebar as it is achieves that. It informs that the islands are disputed(and this is the only reason the islands are of much interest anyway) with the 2 flags, it informs where the respective countries regard the islands to be, and by merit of Korea coming first it informs that they occupy (although you are welcome to make that more clear).

Removing Japan simply makes the article unbalanced and with the body of the text making it clear that Korea presently occupies the island, it is unnecessary. This article is plagued by POV edits that seek to promote a point of view rather than inform. The article as it stands informs. Removing Shimane is simply removing useful information for readers to understand the situation.

Of course, as I've said if you don't like the word 'Administration' then find an alternative but don't remove that useful information.

Many thanks, Macgruder 12:29, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps "Administrative Office" would suffice. Not ideal but it makes it clear that this is not 'occupation' but local administration. Macgruder 13:50, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]


on Jiejunkong

I know his behavior is very disruptive and annoying to other editors, but please refrain from resorting to such behavior yourself. There was already a RfC on his user conduct, and with his continued disruptions as of now, this will probably run through to arbitration. In such case, user conduct of all involved editors come into consideration, so it's best to be at the best of your behavior and be patient. Cydevil38 02:42, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]


I read your user page

No, Gundam Seed Destiny is worse. Back to the wiki stuffs, you got blocked? I'm sorry about that. (Wikimachine 02:12, 24 August 2007 (UTC))[reply]

No. I live in Tennessee. (Wikimachine 02:26, 24 August 2007 (UTC))[reply]

Your welcome

No problem. Let me know if it comes back. Academic Challenger 03:10, 25 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I eventually protected the page against editing by IPs and new users after two more IPs reverted to the spam version.

As for the source that is there now, I have to say it would be much better to have one that is in English, instead of or in addition to the one that is in Korean. Academic Challenger 03:50, 25 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Canvassing

Hi, Odst. You appear to be canvassing User:Wikimachine on his talk page to take part in certain debates or to help you in an edit war. You were probably not aware of this but canvassing is discouraged on Wikipedia - please have a look at Wikipedia:Canvassing for the guideline on this. Thanks, Phonemonkey 17:13, 25 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No worries, I'm not involved, or even looked at the edit war in question, but as long as you are aware! Cheers, Phonemonkey 02:15, 26 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

!!

Mr. Odst its too bad that there is something called racism in America. I am proud in America and Korea, just as you are. I see that you have similar dreams to me, but unfortunately for you, racism will block your way. You will, say, go to West Point, correct? Yes, in America, there is little racism, but its very different in the military. I want you to know that you will not be met with the greatest welcome in the American military. So why should you go to 육사? Its Korean! If you're fluent in Korean, why wouldnt any Korean go to the Korean "West Point"! I live in the US also, but I am pure Korean. Odst, what is the point of the military? What do you wish to do? You can serve for your entire life in any military, but hey, whats the point of serving as a rear-echelon pfc forever? The point of the military is advancing up the ranks. Only then can you do something for your nation by being powerful enough to affect military, possibly national, decisions.

Do you believe you will have the same chance going up the ranks in the USMC as the ROK Army?

No, you wont, and that wont change for a long time. If you knew what the American military is like, you wouldnt go.

Respect what Ive said. I will never mean anything wrong for you, and please dont take it offensively. I wish for all proud Koreans to acheive their goals. You can go join the USMC, suit yourself. But please, I hope you understand what Ive said, because the fact is, you will have difficult times in the USMC. As an Asian, it will be a miracle for you to even earn a 1-star. Oyo321 13:34, 31 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Konnichiwa watashino tomodachi!

Ed, it's been a long time since I last talked to you. How are you doing these days? Try to log on to AIM, but since you didn't for a while, I assume that your macbook is still under repair. Anyways, during recent times, I have been reading about history on Wikipedia, meaning, more reading than editing. And I tried to settle down arguments, and unite the English and Esperanto wikipedias. My Japanese is still the same level, so I didn't really improve on anything language-wise. And, I'm planning to get Halo 3 if I have the chance! So, plz com to aim or call or something (not my house though, log on to aim for # (I cannot say it here cuz of automated-spaming-fon#-tracker-botz). 그럼, 다시 만날때까지. さよなら。Amphitere 04:10, 23 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Liancourt old map

Hello Odst, I'm Watermint. Regarding your recently edits [4], Opp2 is demanding to explain a reason for your revert as Talk:Liancourt Rocks#Sangoku setsujozu. According his objection, two islands drawn on center of the sea in Hayashi's old map. The interpretation with these equivalent to which present island is divided between Korean scholar and Japanese scholar. The Korean scholar interprets those two islands as Ullung-do and Tokdo ([5]), but the Japanese scholar interprets those as Ullung-do and Jukdo ([[6] P149).

Therefore, he suggest to change the contents as followings;

Following the diplomatic spat ..... On the map Ulleungdo and a islet are shown, at the correct latitude and longitude, in yellow. Alongside the islands Hayashi wrote, "Korea's possessions." Korean scholer say this islet is Liancourt Rocks. Japanese say this is Jukdo from the distance with Ulleungdo.

His change seems to me more suitable for NPOV rather than the currently description. Please let us know what is the reason for your revert?--W/mint-Talk- 12:32, 13 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]