Talk:Network 10

The dud logo on Wikipedia

Edit: coolness, thank you! The logo looks normal now!!

That doesn't look exactly like the Ten logo to me. The t e n are kind of screwed. Can someone put the actual logo on. It's akin to putting the 7 or 9 logo on Wikipedia, but kind of dud-shaped 7's or 9's.

That's alright :). The previous SVG logo was slightly inaccurate, and the colours were a bit incorrect, however I think it now looks far better. Stickeylabel 06:01, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Profitability

"possibly the most profitable"? I've been led to believe that was channel nine, but I could well be wrong. Anyone able to confirm? --Jeremyh 07:50, 8 Jul 2004 (UTC)

At a guess I would say this means that although Nine rates higher, Ten profits more from their shows - mainly repeats of US sitcoms and reality shows (Big Brother/Aus Idol) which don't cost a lot to produce --Chuq 09:33, 8 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Chuq is right...Ten show the most three-revenue content in 2006- 1. Ads, 2. Sponsorship, 3. Phone in polls, they show the most sport too...They also only have like one ongoing drama really, their news is horrifically underfunded (I cringe to see the cheapo artifacts on the footage by using low-grade MPEG2 Compression on-the-fly equipment). Seven and Nine are about even now. Nine tends to spend more but attract a higher audience, Seven has given up trying to promote itself as "Australian" but still generates the most purely-Australian content. Ten shops at the 2-dollar-shop from everything to suits to sets, and then hope for the best. --Kbbbb 09:37, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

"Network Ten"

Add: I've always thought it was "Network Ten", officially! Ten even call themselves that when they want to sound important :) It's been "Network Ten" for a while.

Is the network called "Network Ten" or "Ten Network"? I believe it is the former, I have never called it "Ten Network" but then again I have not been in Australia for a while. If not, I propose it might need renaming. --Kjd 14:36, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)

It's referred to as either "Ten" or "the Ten Network", mainly the former. "Network Ten" I believe is only called that once when they warn viewers about infomercials. BigDan 10:28, Jan 16, 2005 (UTC)

I agree with Kjd in that I never use "Ten Network", but rather "Network Ten" or simply "Ten". The official website [1] also uses "Network Ten", so the article name should be changed. --Commander Keane 10:23, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)

An admin would be needed to move it. A redirect already exists at Network Ten, and copying and pasting the info would destroy the edit history. An entry can be made at Wikipedia:Requested moves. Unfortunately, I don't have the time to do so.--DooMDrat 17:47, Apr 30, 2005 (UTC)

Oops! I moved the page to "Network Ten" but forgot to mention it here. Note that the company name is still "Ten Network Holdings Ltd" but the network now refers to itself as "Network Ten". I guess it's a pain changing company names. - Mark 04:51, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

I have just finished changing all the links that link to "the Ten Network" to "Network Ten" Ianblair23 13:03, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

Hm, sorry about that. I think I got part-way through them and got distracted, and forgot all about it. - Mark 12:16, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

Criticisms

The "criticisms" section seemed to me to be a little POV; I like to think my changes have fixed that, but, well ... yeah. Are we sure there should *be* a section on criticisms, and if so, are the ones listed really worth publishing? --MarkGallagher 19:00, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

Could we get a cite for the 'Christian organisations' or name some of them? As it stands it could just be 3 people who complained. Ashmoo 06:12, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

I've added information about the censorship problems last year- Ten tend to be the one who gets in trouble for that kind of thing over the years so I believe it's relevent. I'm not sure which backbenchers were angry about BB5, possibly Bishop and Trish Draper? Also the conservative groups I'm not sure on, Family First wern't really on the scene til 2006, but I'm sure Fielding has had a thing to say about it all...just haven't picked up on it. This section could need rewriting though, I wasn't sure how to phrase the 'incidents' without offending people. --Kbbbb 09:30, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Wouldn't this be best just on the Big Brother page? -- Chuq 10:45, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

I personally think Channel 10 suck ass. They allways have something wrong, an issue or a problem. Programs have cut out before on my tv and i'm assuming its a network problem. Part of shows have been chopped. They also dropped jericho without any warning and that really annoyed me. Iv'e never seen any other tv stations that have more errors than they do. A criticisms section would be good.

In Mildura

What does it mean when it says "non exlusive-major events only" for Mildura, I'm going there soon and want to know weather I'll be able to watch Big brother in the town, or don't they air it?

Mildura has 3 commercial television stations:

• Prime Television - Seven affiliate
• WIN Television - dual Nine/Ten affiliate. Only major events from Ten are broadcast (eg, AFL games). There's little-to-no regular Ten programming
• Mildura Digital Television - Ten affiliate. MDT is a digital-only channel, so you will need a digital set top box to receive it. This will air all programs found on Network Ten in metropolitan areas.

Tntnnbltn 10:26, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:Network Ten tag

Template:Network Ten tag has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. _{J Di}^talk 20:28, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Added programs, removed one...

I've removed The Steph Show, as it had its series finale over a month ago. I've replaced it with Celebrity Joker Poker, instead, and added Meerkat Manor. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.238.192.223 (talk • contribs)

Station IDs list

Is this really required? How about it gets replaced with a more detailed history of where they were borrowed from, or cut down to only include slogans, besides almost all of those IDs can't be referenced because it is all original research, unless there is a published list of them in one of the 40 years celebration things. Whitehornmatt 02:35, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Network Ten or Network TEN

Is the TEN in Ten capitialized? Everywhere I see it it is. ~ Trisreed my talk my contribs 11:14, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

No, The confusion I think comes from the fact that ten used to imply that TEN was an acronym for The Entertainment Network, which was one of the slogans. Ten always has referred to the number, so there is no need to capitalise it --Whitehornmatt 05:14, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Historically, the network would capitalise the spelling "TEN" to make it stand out and give it a strong emphasis and also as the Sydney channel has the callsign TEN-10. Also If you check the Network TEN website [[2]] the word TEN is capitalised in most instances. Andjb 11:11, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Logos

The logo ATV-10 used from 1974 to 1980 is the same as the one they used when they went color bar the "First in Color" tagline. So anyone, please upload the logo. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Eddie Blake (talk • contribs) 10:07, 6 December 2006 (UTC).

Ten doesn't show the nanny anymore

I've removed the nanny because it does not show that program anymore —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 210.50.143.21 (talk) 13:31, 19 December 2006 (UTC).

Video Program Guide

The VPG is basically a stop-gap measure in place of full 7-day program guide information; I think the assertion that it is a seperate channel is misleading. Seeing as it is effectively a datacast (akin to Digital 44) I suggest that the 'free to air channels ' section be removed/altered seeing as the Ten Guide isn't a 'true' channel.

American Fall Season

Californication (TV series) is showing now on Ten two weeks after its American screening, and they announced on air that House (TV series) will be shown a week (give or take) after the episode is broadcast when it begins again in a month's time. Question is: 1) How should we word this (or should we even have it at all?); 2) Can anyone find and web-source that mentions House's new broadcast schedule; and 3) does anyone know (yet) what other shows are going to be shown in this way? ZanderSchubert 08:23, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

- With Californication specifically they were telling us we'd see it when the US does (what do they take us for? Seriously!) when as stated we see it 2 weeks after the US. They have done the same thing with House & Life. I've added a little section mentioning this false misrepresentation of their programming, maybe someone can expand on it. - Dizrythmia 25 October 2007 —Preceding comment was added at 15:18, 24 October 2007 (UTC) - OK, who removed that part & why? If you wanted to change it that's understandable, but it does need to be said that this "see it when the US does" stuff is incorrect on 10's behalf. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.179.226.204 (talk) 10:22, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

2007 New Year's Eve

"Network Ten were highly criticised for their broadcast of the 2007 New Year's Eve celebrations" - new years eve for 2007 hasn't happened yet. Is this a prediction for an event that will happen? JayKeaton 09:01, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

It was for the most recent NYE Celebrations so that would technically be the 2007 NYE Celebrations as it was entering the year 2007. - Mike Beckham 09:33, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

NYE would be 2006 and New Years Day would be 2007. JayKeaton 00:12, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Criticisms of Ten's Use of Advertising?

Ten's adverts uniquely apply both male and female voice-over actors in tandem, describing their shows with an affected tone that suggests they are about to start laughing (Meerkat Manor Advert). Another technique features female voice-over actors describing the Network's prime-time stylised American shows in a sexually provocative manner, such as Burn Notice and NCIS ("Who makes catching bad guys look so good?"). These features of Ten's glossy advertising convey a unique sense of triviality about its shows.

Network Ten (along with Channel 7 and 9) maximise the airtime of their sponsors, with many televsion shows constantly interrupted by advertising breaks. Many half-hour shows feature between three and four breaks, a comparitiviely high number in Australian broadcasting. One example, The Simpsons is interspersed with four advert breaks, then a fifth pasted on top of the shows credits. Nearly one third of the half-hour slot is taken up by advertising on many of Ten's prime-time shows. Often featured adverts are highly repetitive, and Ten appears to have no limit upon how many times the same advert can be aired in asingle evening.

To encourage viewers to stay with the channel, the network places no break between the end of the show and the beginning of its next show. This means shifting a show's cliffhanger or important resolution in a one minute slot between an advert break and credits. ArseneWanger (talk) 03:04, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Educational Programming?

Should the main article include a section about Ten's lack of educational programming and its favouritism for American drama and film that features physically attractive people? Could the main article include a 'criticisms' section that mentions Ten's one-dimensional programming?