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RFA questions

Although they are marked as optional questions, but still, if possible, it'd be nice if you answered Questions 6-13 in your RFA. Thanks, Nsk92 (talk) 04:36, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nsk92, I apologize if I have been being rude. That certainly wasn't the intent. I believe that my record, my policy knowledge, and my statements already made on the RfA speak for themselves. While I respect your opinions and questions, these questions are indeed optional, as has been made clear over many, many talk page discussions. While some editors, yourself apparently included, believe that they are mandatory by culture, I believe otherwise. The first two optional questions from Toddst1 were directly targeted at my prior actions so I chose to answer them. The remaining questions have been much more general; you can infer much, much more about me with a little bit of contribution research than by asking non-personal questions. If you have specific questions about me - why I chose to !vote one way or another, my editing style, etc. - I would be more than happy to answer. As Gwynand pointed out, however, you asked six open-ended questions that in order to properly address and give reasonable, thought-out answers, I would have to spend several hours. One could comment on the "politeness" of asking so many questions, with no explanation as to the concerns driving them, and then demanding answers. I feel this is unfair to me.

Again, absolutely nothing personal and no disrespect intended whatsoever. I am merely explaining why I have not addressed your questions. Also, if you do have legitimate concerns regarding my viewpoints, style, or knowledge, by all means ask away and I will address ASAP. Tan | 39 19:51, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OK, thanks for the explanation. I think that answering RFA questions is useful for the people who are not well familiar with the candidate since it does take a long time to look through the contribution history, diffs etc (which still has to be done, of course, to a certain degree anyway, but still...). The reason I asked my open-ended questions is not to get the "right" answer (in most complicated situations there is not really a unique "right" answer) but to see that a candidate for an adminship will be able to make a reasonably quick but also well-reasoned decision when faced with real-life less-than-straightforward cases. For people who know you well this may not be necessary, but for the rest of us it would have been useful. I don't really have serious concerns in your case and I was basically looking for a confirmation of what the other support voters have said. Actually, I am slightly concerned about the civility issues discussion in your RFA, but certainly not enough to transform into an oppose vote. What you say about POV pushers crying "incivility" when they are brought to task for POV pushing is certainly true. However, civility is still a basic and important value of WP community and I would have been happier if I had seen some specific instances where you admonished some editor for incivility in any kind of context, AFD, talk page, RFA or whatever. I had been a WP editor for much shorter period of time than you and I have already seen a fair share of genuinely incivil comments. I am sure that the same is true for you.

I don't think I'll vote in your RFA, although it is clear now that it will succeed, as I am glad to see. I congratulate you on the imminent approval of your adminship and wish you good luck in your new admin role on Wikipedia. Regards, Nsk92 (talk) 07:13, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Good News

I am sure you, and others, will be happy to see this. [1] Red4tribe (talk) 18:04, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

congrats

Let me be the first to congratulate you on the success of your RfA. All the best, Vishnava_talk 18:34, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Vish! I look forward to more RfA discussion with you ;-) Tan | 39 18:39, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hot damn.

[2]. Control F5 my friend, Control F5....Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 18:34, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You are now an administrator

Congratulations, I have just closed your RfA as successful and made you an administrator. Take a look at the administrators' how-to guide and the administrators' reading list if you haven't read those already. Also, the practice exercises at the new admin school may be useful. If you have any questions, get in touch on my talk page. WjBscribe 18:35, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations. ;) Check out the tips for new administrators I have here, if you have the time. Regards, Anthøny 18:36, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks scribe, AGK. I'll make ya proud! Tan | 39 18:39, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent, congrats. :D Well deserved. Good luck! PeterSymonds (talk) 19:10, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Gratz Tan, nice job setting an example to others and proving than you don't always need to answer the deluge of questions to be successful. =) xenocidic (talk) 19:21, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks guys. Xeno, I agree - I really was sort of proving a point there. Glad it didn't bite me in the ass. Speaking of getting bit in the arse, I just made three CSD deletions, let's see if I get my first "why?" message. Tan | 39 19:23, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Feel free to make one of these in your own userspace, giving credit to the creator of it of course, User:Jonny-mt. Since adding the WAIT! on top of my talkpage, I rarely if ever get poked at for my speedy deletes. Very refreshing... Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 19:26, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Isn't this fun??? Ready to give the buttons back yet? :-) Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 20:37, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, it's very interesting. I don't think I'll fuck up too badly. My intent in using the tools right now isn't for the sake of using them; it's more to see how people respond - not only to using the buttons, but not using the buttons (declining speedys, etc). Anyway, I appreciate you stepping in on that G11 - feel free to keep an eye on me as long as you want ;-) Tan | 39 20:41, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think so either. Congratulations (I mean that). Let me know if I can be of assistance. Toddst1 (talk) 21:02, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Toddst1. It's all good; there always has to be someone leading the opposition. You kept it interesting for me. See you around! Tan | 39 21:07, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Per your above Tan, you'll find you tend to spend a lot of time declining speedies. And well done my man - best wishes. Pedro : Chat 21:28, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Pedro. I really appreciate your support and advice over the past six months. I'm not doing the RfA thank spam. Think anyone will take offense? ;-) Tan | 39 22:00, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nope! Shove a message on your user page for 24 hours. No big deal remember?! Oh, and e-mail me for the handy hints to get through the block on deleting the main page ...... :) Pedro : Chat 22:25, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations. I'm sorry I didn't review the RfA to see you had responded to my Neutral, but it appears moot anyhow. I am glad that my concerns were not sufficient to dissuade the majority of the participating community. LessHeard vanU (talk) 22:07, 11 June 2008 (UTC) ps. Welcome to the club (just don't swing it too vigorously at first!)[reply]

Admin dashboard

Hey Tan, feel free to test drive my administrative dashboard. Either copy it, or transclude it. Let me know if you think of any ways to improve it. As for the thank spam, you could always just leave a general thank-you on the talk page of your RFA, or at WT:RFA as someone did a week or so ago. xenocidic (talk) 15:13, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well done! I wish you well in the new job. Rudget (Help?) 15:39, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Kudos.--Ecoleetage (talk) 16:22, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dafoh

I have nominated this article for deletion as you suggested. However, it does appear that it was speedied before as DAFOH. Cheers! TN‑X-Man 20:33, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm keeping an eye. One good thing about taking it to AfD is that if there's a consensus (especially a strong one) to delete, then we won't have to keep seeing this and can just delete as G4. Definitely no comment on you by my speedy decline, just being careful :-) Tan | 39 20:37, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, no problem. Thanks for the assist. Cheers! TN‑X-Man 20:57, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

X Is Loaded

Hi. I'm curious about your edit comment, speedy declined, page has significant history. . I don't see anything in WP:CSD about how long the edit history may be. I suppose you could make a reasonable argument that this fails A7 because it asserts notability, and that might be a valid reason to decline the speedy, but length of edit history itself doesn't seem valid. -- RoySmith (talk) 23:04, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Just a note, but multiple references (as we have here) pretty much says A7 will not apply - valid references can be taken as an assertion of notability even if the main body text doesn't contain one. Pedro : Chat 23:12, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Concordia College Band

My name is Nathan Larsen. I'm a Senior at Concordia College, and am the President of The Concordia College Band. I am writing in response to your recent deletion of the page about The Band. I simply intended to post a page about The Band to help inform people about some of The Band's history and its current happenings. I guess I would just like an explanation why it was deleted, especially when other music ensembles, namely The Concordia Choir, are allowed to enjoy a full page on Wikipedia. Thank you.

Nllarsen (talk) 04:12, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The problem here, Nathan, is notability. Reading the The Concordia Choir page, it's a little like comparing apples to uranium. Wikipedia isn't a place to promote your band, or "inform people" about the history. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and we have to draw a line of notability somewhere. If you read WP:N and WP:BAND, and explain to me how it meets these requirements, I would be more than happy to reconsider this deletion. I have absolutely nothing against your particular article; I am merely upholding established Wikipedia policy. Tan | 39 04:18, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Talk pages

Heh, yeah, I did that. It'll come naturally. :) Doing a great job so far! Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 15:51, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Deleting My Articles

Hmm, Hey. I was writing two articles, one named Transformer Search Engine and the other one is for tirgumit. After reading the intro to your page I realized I was doing a commercial to the search engine and to the translation software. I wish to edit those pages and not start from scratch, and there for, a little story, Dr. Seuss style:

    Once apon a time in a far far away land

there was a little boy who wished for a dividend. His boss always told him: "work hard. get your work done" but as for that dividend - he said none. So the boy work hard, he became a man, even his boss is now a fan. "Oh, you're so good" the boss always said "but as for that dividend, what are you mad?!" So after lots of pondering and thinking and wondering and sitting and hoping and wishing I had an idea all mighty it was like my head glowed with something light(y) "I should add our softwares in Wikipedia" (and everyone knows it's the number one encyclopedia) And so the story goes on to your hands, Mr. Tan, please help me to be a man (with dividends)

Thanks, and Sorry for all the trouble, I'm kinda new around here, Elad. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Elad1010 (talk • contribs) 16:40, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ha! Thanks for understanding. Let me know if you need any help. Tan | 39 16:42, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Your CSD sub-page

Hi. Would you mind if I take it over to a sub-page of mine, for use too? Of course giving you credit. Arienh4^(Talk) 17:37, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, although it isn't mine - the credit is at the bottom of the existing page. Have at it! Tan | 39 17:40, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Professor Sa'ad Medhat

You declined to speedily delete the above -- if that does not constitute blatant advertising for the man and his foundation, what does? Thanks. – ukexpat (talk) 17:56, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, I declined the speedy. While I agree the article has massive COI and POV issues, it appeared to me that there was a chance the man was notable enough for inclusion. Probably not likely, but I thought it prudent to send to AfD, which it has been. I suggest you chime in there. Tan | 39 17:58, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

crash

We e/ced here when I went to delete it for the second time ;) You on NPP? It was on my watchlist.

Ha, I ec'd with YOU the first time you deleted it, then watchlisted it. I salted it for two weeks. Sign your posts ;-) Tan | 39 18:39, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah some people truly don't get it. I had fun playing whack a mole earlier with User:IconoplastDesignsInc.'s spam. *Smacks* we don't need no stinkin' sigs :-p _{TravellingCari}^{the Busy Bee} 18:52, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, how cute, two of my little admin babies.....tee hee! Glad you two are having fun! Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 18:59, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ha! Yer just jealous we're posting somewhere other than your talk page. Tan | 39 19:01, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nuh-uh. *sniff*.... Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 19:02, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Your talk exploded earlier -- or yesterday -- I hit refresh on my watchlist and it went splodey. Admin babies... Admin patch kids? :) _{TravellingCari}^{the Busy Bee} 19:08, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My talkpage takes forever to load in my archaic work PC, I'm gonna make my archiver work faster. For. Ever. I usually just hit diff in my watchlist to read something...Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 19:13, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Before I got my new toy at home, I couldn't read yours or DGG's talkpages from home. Now life is good. I still need to put my watchlist on a diet. DGG warned me it would explode, I didn't realize how quickly. _{TravellingCari}^{the Busy Bee} 19:20, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

<- heh, yeah. I used to watchlist everything I did admin related. Every CSD, every AFD close, every article that I closed as "keep". All gone, none watched. I figure, if someone has a problem, they'll find me, I don't need to watch the article/redlink. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 19:40, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mine stemmed more from the backlog, that and the preference to watchlist every page I touched in any way. Now once they appear on my watchlist I unwatch. The world won't end if I miss something o there. My orange bar fear of 'oh crap did I do something wrong?' is passing too. _{TravellingCari}^{the Busy Bee} 19:58, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm hoping Tan is enjoying all the orange bars, without getting a word in edgewise....welcome to my world! Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 20:07, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

admit it, you miss us when it's quiet. :) _{TravellingCari}^{the Busy Bee} 20:37, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Have you seen my talkpage today? Good grief, anything but quiet...although, I will say that now that I was successful in forcing the community to grant you both admin buttons, I've served my purpose and fully expect that you'll shun me :-). Get ready, both of you. Your archives, your talkpages, and your wiki-life (if you choose to use the buttons, which it looks like you both are doing frequently) are about to get busier. Fair warning. Content contribs? What are those? :-) BTW, I'm actually looking forward to when one of you or the other "passes on" what I did, which is push you towards adminship. I can't wait to see who you nominate! Always be looking, there are some fantastic editors out there that deserve the toolbelt and will use it wisely and for the betterment of Wikipedia. When you've got one on the hook, write a nom! Go to WP:RFA/NOM for instructions, couldn't be easier... Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 20:45, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nah won't be shunning. There's far too much baseball season left ;) Glad to see others contributing to the Keeper-pedia. I haven't ended up with half the questions on my talk page that others do. I'm sure they'll happen when I start closing more AfDs. Right now my admin work is CSDs. Still keeping up some content work, see this from this morning. I'm a geek, can't help it ;) I have one on the hook, will likely end up being a co-nom when/if he finally accepts. And yes.... it stemmed back from when you/Rudget first brought it up with me. Will probably be some time from now. _{TravellingCari}^{the Busy Bee} 20:58, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I really don't have anything else to say. I just want Tan to have another orange bar. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 22:09, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry! I was flying home from Dallas, so I just got them all at once. Tan | 39 00:22, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

crash redux* here. You in my time zone? There will apparently be no backlog tonight. Imagine if you, Gwen Gale and I were at it at once, we'd e/c more than on Keeper's page! _{TravellingCari}^{the Busy Bee} 02:29, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ha, hi Tcari. I live in Phoenix, so for half the year - yes ;-) I know, I was just thinking I need to venture into AfDs or something. Or edit late at night. Tan | 39 02:31, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't closed too many AfDs. I've gone through the motions of closing some, planning out my close and doing all but the close to then see how it does close. Late at night is fun -- quieter, tame watch list keeps me focused. _{TravellingCari}^{the Busy Bee} 02:45, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Harley Young

Hi there. I'm working at WP:NPP. Did a ghits search on this Major League baseball player. Found some solid references like this and this. I did some copyediting to the article, but before I could save that, it was deleted. Would you reconsider? --Rosiestep (talk) 18:40, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Rosiestep. If I were you, I'd just start over - there was seriously nothing worth saving on the version I deleted. Let me know if you really want the two poorly written sentences that existed... Tan | 39 18:44, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Late support

Hi Tanthalas39, I realize that I never actually got around to supporting your recent successful RfA. Well, I'm sorry that I didn't actually vote in the RfA, but consider this message a late support from me! :) Good luck. Acalamari 02:28, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'd be concerned had I failed with, say, 73% ;-) No worries - I appreciate the vote of confidence. Tan | 39 02:29, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome! Acalamari 02:33, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Bio Jonathan Yaniv

There are so many people with Bio's on here that are as important and me, and there articles have not been deleted.

It is only fair that if you delete mine, you should delete theirs as well.

Or let me have mine.

Hi there. Read WP:N and WP:BIO, and get back to me. Tan | 39 02:37, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oops

Sorry... I'll try to use the right tags in the future. Kivar2 (talk) 02:54, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Kalamazoo Kingdom

Hi Tanthalas - I'm hoping you're the person who can help me... I noticed you deleted the bio for Mike Guilliatt - thank you. Is there any chance you could do the same thing for every other member of the Kalamazoo Outrage soccer team roster EXCEPT Terry Alvino? Someone added a whole load of circular redirects to that team, which makes keeping track of the players impossible, and I've been trying to solicit the help of an admin to rectify the situation. Can you help? Is there some formal process I need to go through, or can you just do it? Thanks. --JonBroxton (talk) 03:10, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There ya go. Tan | 39 03:19, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Outstanding! Thank you. --JonBroxton (talk) 03:53, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Amman Baccalaureate School

Found some copyvio'ed material at Amman Baccalaureate School. Found the copyright material with these edits: [3]. Should the edits be deleted? -WarthogDemon 03:17, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The edits, or the whole page? Is the whole page a copyvio? If so, mark it with the appropriate CSD tag. If it's just part, feel free to excise it yourself... Tan | 39 03:35, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I did but just discovered I could revert the edits. Wasn't sure if the edits themselves needed to be deleted, though. Thanks. :) -WarthogDemon 03:46, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mike Tranghese

Could you please restore Mike Tranghese? I didn't create the article, and I recognize that it was only a stub. The link to Big East Conference was spelled incorrectly, which is why it appeared as a redlink. Several references in reliable sources can be found at this Google News search. --Eastmain (talk) 03:46, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Tan | 39 03:49, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Peter Nordbeck deletion

Hi, Tan, it is Bruce Cherner from Bruce Cherner Antique Silver in Acton, MA here. In the course of researching an extraordinary object by Nordbeck, I noticed that Wikipedia lacked an entry on him and decided to take a few minutes and post one. As mentioned in my article, he was the most talented of the Halifax silversmiths working during that time period. My sources are Langford "Canadian Silversmiths and Their Marks"; also http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.com/index.cfm?PgNm=TCE&Params=A1ARTA0007397 among others.

If you'd be so kind as to restore this post, I'm sure that it would add to the overall quality of Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.174.48.138 (talk) 15:38, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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 :Done. [[User:Tanthalas39|<font color="#CC7722" face="Papyrus">'''Tan'''</font>]]  |  [[User talk:Tanthalas39|<font color="#21421E" face="Papyrus">39</font>]] 03:49, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
-== Peter Norbeck deletion ==
+== Peter Nordbeck deletion ==
 Hi, Tan, it is Bruce Cherner from Bruce Cherner Antique Silver in Acton, MA here.    In the course of researching an extraordinary object by Nordbeck, I noticed that Wikipedia lacked an entry on him and decided to take a few minutes and post one.  As mentioned in my article, he was the most talented of the Halifax silversmiths working during that time period.    My sources are Langford "Canadian Silversmiths and Their Marks"; also http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.com/index.cfm?PgNm=TCE&Params=A1ARTA0007397 among others.