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Hi Jmabel, I see that you've attended the previous Seattle meetup. I hope that you can make it to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Seattle5 next Seattle meetup] on June 19! [[User:Bestchai|Bestchai]] ([[User talk:Bestchai|talk]]) 21:43, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
Hi Jmabel, I see that you've attended the previous Seattle meetup. I hope that you can make it to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Seattle5 next Seattle meetup] on June 19! [[User:Bestchai|Bestchai]] ([[User talk:Bestchai|talk]]) 21:43, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

== Seattle meetup this thursday (6/19) ==

Hi Jmabel, just a reminder that you've signed up to attend the Seattle meetup this Thursday (6/19). This one's going to take place at 7:30PM at Thaiku -- a restaurant\bar in Ballard. See the [[Wikipedia:Meetup/Seattle5|meetup page]] to add more agenda items, see attendees, etc. Hope to see you there! [[User:Bestchai|Bestchai]] ([[User talk:Bestchai|talk]]) 02:31, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Revision as of 02:31, 18 June 2008

I am currently only moderately active on Wikipedia. I've been uploading a lot of my own photos (and occasionally some other images) to the Commons, writing the occasional article, participating in other articles mainly on a "hit-and-run" basis, and maybe doing the occasional translation, but for the foreseeable future, that is my level of participation. I am not being one of the "mainstays", as I was from November 2003 to April 2007. - Jmabel | Talk 04:18, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Archived

Stray barnstars

I've moved my barnstars, etc., to User:Jmabel/Barnstars. -- Jmabel | Talk 06:31, 6 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Master Juba

Hi, Jmabel. As one of the only other editors I know who is actively editing any minstrelsy-related articles, I hoped you might drop by Master Juba and give it a look. I've recently put it up for review at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Master Juba. So far, I've met with opposition based on the uncertainty behind the identity of the various dancers who went by "Master Juba", "Boz's Juba", and simply "Juba". People seem to either expect me to do away with the ambiguity and call them all the same person, or to make it clearer that it is possible that the lives of a few different dancers have been conflated in the historical record.

So, if you get the chance, would you mind dropping by and checking things out? A full review would be best, but in the least, I would appreciate your input on how to tackle the problems outlined above. Much thanks, — Dulcem (talk) 22:41, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What do you think about the article now? Any further suggestions? I'd like to ping the two folks who are currently opposing the FAC and ask them to reconsider, but I want to make sure you don't have any more concerns first. Thanks again for your help. — Dulcem (talk) 23:59, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The only large thing I'd consider (thought it will probably have no effect on the FA process) would be to use {{Harvnb}} in citations, the way the Blackface article does. - Jmabel | Talk 04:50, 13 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Citation templates make my head hurt, so I'll leave things alone for now. I won't stop others from making the change if they wish, though. Thanks, — Dulcem (talk) 05:27, 13 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

One reviewer has brought up concerns with some potential point-of-view problems and overuse of jargon in the article. Would you mind taking a look at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Master Juba? I'd value your input (either there, here, or on the article's talk page). Thanks, — Dulcem (talk) 00:53, 15 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

street articles

Look at the footer to Broadway_(New_York_City). I remember us deciding before that probably only the Ave. and Lake Washington Boulevard deserved their own articles in Seattle, but there are articles on some comparatively obscure New York streets... thoughts? --Lukobe (talk) 06:18, 10 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Seems excessive to me. I think a lot of this is better handled at the neighborhood level. But I'm sure we could do more than these two. Cheasty Boulevard South and Queen Anne Boulevard are landmarks and should certainly have articles. But, for example, while I could certainly write an article on Madison Street that would pass muster, I doubt it would be much more than a collection of near-trivia: "Madison Street is the only Seattle street that extends the full distance from Elliott Bay to Lake Washington. It passes from Downtown over Interstate 5 to First Hill and the Central District (including what was once known as Renton Hill), then through Madison Valley to Madison Park." Etc. Is there anyone who really would want to read this article? - Jmabel | Talk 06:39, 10 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, probably not. The landmarks would be good, though.. --Lukobe (talk) 07:59, 10 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'll start stubs. --Lukobe (talk) 00:27, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Good idea. I'll do another stub.

Numerous apparently related deletions

I was blindsided by this. Please see my remarks at Wikipedia:Templates_for_deletion/Log/2008_May_11#Template:GFDL-presumed-ast. - Jmabel | Talk 17:52, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

TfD nomination of Template:GFDL-presumed-ast

Template:GFDL-presumed-ast has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. Kelly hi! 16:33, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Better source request for Image:Catalonia_comarque_Alt_Camp.png

Thanks for uploading Image:Catalonia_comarque_Alt_Camp.png. You provided a source, but it is difficult for other users to examine the copyright status of the image because the source is incomplete. Please consider clarifying the exact source so that the copyright status may be checked more easily. It is best to specify the exact web page where you found the image, rather than only giving the source domain or the URL of the image file itself. Please update the image description with a URL that will be more helpful to other users in determining the copyright status.

If you have uploaded other files, consider checking that you have specified their source in a complete manner. You can find a list of files you have uploaded by following this link. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page or me at my talkpage. Thank you. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? Kelly hi! 16:47, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Also the other images listed here. Kelly hi! 16:48, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image tagging

I understand you're probably frustrated by the flood of image tags...if you'll bear with me for just a little while, I will go back and consolidate all these script-generated messages into a single message. Basically I am replacing the Catalan maps with Commons version that have good licenses, as opposed to the ones that are tagged with the questionable license {{GFDL-presumed-ca}}. I'm really sorry for the hassle. Kelly hi! 18:07, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'll revert them as I send them, but basically all the images here are being nominated for deletion in favor of images with better sources. Kelly hi! 18:30, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, then, that's fine. I thought all of these images were going to be deleted without replacements, just because the license trail was slightly imperfect. - Jmabel | Talk 01:09, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I tried finding the original images in the Catalan Wikipedia, so I could fix the sources and licenses, but it looks like they've been deleted for some reason. So I switched over to the maps that are currently being used in those same articles on Catalan Wikipedia - they all happened to be on the Commons already. Sorry again for the hassle! Kelly hi! 01:15, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, there was only one image that used that Asturian Wikipedia template, and that image is on the Commons. The rest all used the Catalan license template and had descriptions that stated they were from the Catalan Wikipedia. Kelly hi! 02:22, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
There were more before. They probably had already been dealt with one way or another. - Jmabel | Talk 02:37, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ondine

May I alert you to a discussion on merging Ondine (Sir Frederick Ashton ballet) into Ondine (Henze)! — Robert Greer

Thank you! — Robert Greer (talk) 20:14, 5 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ashton / Henze / Ondine / Undine

I regret to inform you that the party who wanted to merge Ondine (Ashton) into Undine (Henze) has been unable to accept Wiki. administrator DGG's determination that the two articles should remain seperate. Your comments on Talk:Ondine (Ashton) would be welcome! — Robert Greer (talk) 16:50, 13 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Social

I'll be volunteering at UD street fair again this year. I'm managing 43rd street food vendors, stop by and say hi. SchmuckyTheCat (talk)

Compare Akahi Nui article

Seems to me the tone of this article is very different from that of Akahi Nui. I think the problem is probably there, not here. It starts right out with Quentin Kawānanakoa being called a "claimant" while Akahi Nui is called a "pretender". Both terms are equally valid for either, but "claimant" has more positive connotations. In any case, though, I'd expect the two to be handled more or less symmetrically.

I don't know the topic well. I came to this by way of WP:BLP issues in the Akahi Nui article. It would be much appreciated if someone who is working on this and has no ax to grind might come look at that other article as well. - Jmabel | Talk 21:26, 28 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have now edited the Akahi Nui article to also use the term "claimant", and added each article as a "see also" in the other. - Jmabel | Talk 03:10, 19 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Owana Salazar

Do you think she or her son should be included? I personally think Akahi Nui should be listed as a false pretender as he has no geneological prove of his descent from Liliuokalani's sister or Kamehameha. KAVEBEAR (talk) 05:57, 19 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have absolutely no way to evaluate independently anyone's claims to royal descent. Again, this should all be based on citable sources. I know nothing about Owana Salazar. I know just enough about Akahi Nui to know that there seem to be some serious Hawaiian Sovereignty people who consider him the legitimate claimant, and that by his own account he is a (presumably illegitimate) descendant of Kamehameha. As I've said before, this is totally outside my expertise. I don't think any of the articles are citing great sources. Clearly, to call someone a "false pretender" one must cite which article says so. And, in any case, "pretender" and "claimant" have the same denotation but different connotations, and we should not be rendering (even implicit) judgments of our own in matters like this. I happen to think Prince Paul of Romania (Paul Lambrino) has no legitimate claim on the Romanian throne, being the product of a morganitic marriage, but in that article I believe things have been left to let the documented facts speak for themselves. - Jmabel | Talk 16:19, 19 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Though I see that the Paul Lambrino article has now become a largely uncited mess, heavily edited by his partisans. I'll do some work there: that one I know more about. - Jmabel | Talk 16:24, 19 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Fair use rationale for Image:Alt Urgell Arms.png

Thanks for uploading Image:Alt Urgell Arms.png. You've indicated that the image meets Wikipedia's criteria for non-free content, but there is no explanation of why it meets those criteria. Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. If you have any questions, please post them at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions.

Thank you for your cooperation. NOTE: once you correct this, please remove the tag from the image's page. STBotI (talk) 00:29, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As I've asked repeatedly: why haven't we "grandfathered in" images like this that serve an obvious purpose and that predate our new, stricter policies on justification of non-free content? - Jmabel | Talk 03:32, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
In any case, this is superseded by Commons:Image:Escut de l'Alt Urgell.svg. Jmabel | Talk 03:42, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Fair use rationale for Image:Balaguer coat of arms.png

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Thank you for your cooperation. NOTE: once you correct this, please remove the tag from the image's page. STBotI (talk) 19:07, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Fair use rationale for Image:Bart Blitz Album.jpg

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Thank you for your cooperation. NOTE: once you correct this, please remove the tag from the image's page. STBotI (talk) 21:43, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Speculative text

Hi, you restored a section of newly added text to Wikipedia:Verifiability. I have opened a discussion on what speculative text refers to per the context in which it is being used. If you would like to join in its at Wikipedia talk:Verifiability# Speculative text. Thanks, Brimba (talk) 00:41, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You made Crosscut.com!

They used one of your pictures...congrats :) [1] --Lukobe (talk) 04:07, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

And they did so without permission. I would have granted the permission, but it's kind of arrogant for them to presume so, don't you think? They are not GFDL... - Jmabel | Talk 04:11, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hey now

This edit summary was a bit much. No need to get heated over a simple issue like citations. Please try to be more cordial. I think if you look over some of the WP:FA material I have worked on you will see that I make a good faith effort to source as much of the article as possible with WP:RS/WP:V citations. Cirt (talk) 03:32, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The edit summary is saying, precisely, that I'm glad you actually plan to do some of the work and aren't just telling other people that you will wipe the article if they don't do it. That's what I had originally thought you were saying: usually when someone goes about adding a bunch of tags like this to an article they didn't write, that's what's going on. It is, precisely, an acknowledgment that you are acting in good faith, which up to that point I doubted. And if you read the rest my comment, you can see that now that I see that this isn't a hatchet job, I was offering to track down anything that you actually find difficult to verify. I'm just very tired of people who are "cleansing" Wikipedia of quite useful articles that simply predate our current standards of citation. Many of them seem to have no interest in doing the heavy lifting themselves. You apparently do, which is entirely good. - Jmabel | Talk 03:37, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, and what I'm "heated" over isn't citations. It's the recent pattern of mass removal of uncontroversial but somewhat undercited material. (I have no problem at all with the removal of uncited material where anyone who knows the topic has genuine doubts about its accuracy.) - Jmabel | Talk 03:39, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the explanation and your offer to help with adding more cites. It appears from your explanation that a good healthy dollop of good faith is needed all around. Cirt (talk) 03:53, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Catalan comarca Garrigues.png listed for deletion

An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, Image:Catalan comarca Garrigues.png, has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. BJBot (talk) 01:49, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No longer being used. Delete it. - Jmabel | Talk 14:29, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Phoenix free sheet

Fair enough.  :) raining girl (talk) 23:12, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Seattle meetup 5

Hi Jmabel, I see that you've attended the previous Seattle meetup. I hope that you can make it to the next Seattle meetup on June 19! Bestchai (talk) 21:43, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Seattle meetup this thursday (6/19)

Hi Jmabel, just a reminder that you've signed up to attend the Seattle meetup this Thursday (6/19). This one's going to take place at 7:30PM at Thaiku -- a restaurant\bar in Ballard. See the meetup page to add more agenda items, see attendees, etc. Hope to see you there! Bestchai (talk) 02:31, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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