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[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Featured articles/FA-Team/Mission 4|Mission 4]], a series of articles on the [[Everglades]], could do with help from the FA-Team! Thanks! [[User:Awadewit|Awadewit]] ([[User talk:Awadewit|talk]]) 13:03, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Featured articles/FA-Team/Mission 4|Mission 4]], a series of articles on the [[Everglades]], could do with help from the FA-Team! Thanks! [[User:Awadewit|Awadewit]] ([[User talk:Awadewit|talk]]) 13:03, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

== Pronoun Problem ==

You have been recently active on the WP:V talk page. Please visit [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:VPP#Pronoun_problem_-_What_does_.22their.22_mean_in_this_policy_subsection_.3F this] discussion on WP:VPP and contribute comments if you want to. Thank you. [[Special:Contributions/208.43.120.114|208.43.120.114]] ([[User talk:208.43.120.114|talk]]) 02:16, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

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Our knowledge can only be finite, while our ignorance must necessarily be infinite. - Karl Popper

Archived round about 30K. I will respond on your user talk page. I don't watch user talk pages, so I may or may not respond if you don't reply to me here.

My user talk has slowly become my user page; my actual user page I just find frustrating and I think I'll stick with the poems. I throw extra stuff here. For the record: Tim Marskell, a Canadian living in the United Arab Emirates (though often found elsewhere).

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Jaguar story

  • Dornin, Rusty (2008-05-05). "Border-fence dispute snares rare jaguars". CNN. Retrieved 2008-05-05. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:59, 5 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    LOL :-) Geometry guy 21:05, 7 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Why's it funny (what did I miss)? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:09, 7 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the nice note; well, you are, after all, the Big Cat Man on Wiki (with all due respect to Cas and Yomangani :-) And I still remember the thrill of seeing one in my yard (haven't seen it again). Border fence: fiasco on every level. Let me know when you have a citations article to the point that I can help with the little stuff. Monarchy of the United Kingdom should be close now. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:48, 7 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Marskell, this reminder that you're one of the cat people on WP prompts me to mention that my sister works at ZSL and is a tiger expert. If you decide one day to work on Tiger I may be able to help with anything that needs citing; she may be able to point me to sources that would be useful. The only sources I own myself are some European studbooks she managed, and Riding the Tiger, which she edited along with Seidensticker and Jackson. Mike Christie (talk) 02:38, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Office defeaturing

I suppose it was inevitable ... I just got burned out on doing so much for it and other people still bringing up issues that in some cases I consider rather picayune. But I'm addressing them, and I think the project can bring it back through the process in time to have it as the Main Page FA on 9/27 when the fifth season starts. It was probably too much to ask to fix an article that needed so much done for it and was difficult to keep stable during a season (and with so many fan unsourced additions to it ... I think we will just have to institute a revert-on-sight policy, block-if-they-do-it-regularly, to keep it stable).

For now I'm trying to address all the issues raised in the FARC. Current goal is peer review by the end of the month. Feel free to help. Daniel Case (talk) 14:55, 7 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... <cough> ... some of us who raised the "picayune" issues also spent hours fixing them. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:17, 7 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't mean you ... you raised good points which I also tried to fix. I meant things like "too many pictures, even if they're free" and the complaint about using Jenna Fischer's blog as a source because it's on MySpace and we don't allow xlinks there anymore. Daniel Case (talk) 18:16, 7 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Both of you put in a lot of work. And as we often say, improving the article is all that matters, with or without the star. So don't feel you wasted your time, Daniel. I'd like to promise to help but I'm not editing much. You should look for a prose specialist to give it a once over. Marskell (talk) 18:20, 7 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Well, with two degrees in English and a background in journalism, I tend to consider myself a prose specialist. I did the original copy edit back in April. I do agree that the article still needs to be cleansed of all the language that sounds more appropriate to Entertainment Weekly than an encyclopedia. But right now I'm putting in the citations for the writers and directors that it was missing. Then, I'm trimming up the season synopses (which should be easier to do once the season finale has aired Thursday and people don't feel the need to add trivial details about this week's episode). Daniel Case (talk) 18:26, 7 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Someone unfamiliar with the prose is critical on FAs; we miss our own mistakes, more than anything. And those stub sections need working on. Marskell (talk) 18:33, 7 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, certainly. I'll ask you for a referral once I'm done with everything I see that needs to be done. Including the stub sections. Daniel Case (talk) 20:23, 7 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Request for Arbitration

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration#ant-Americanism —Preceding unsigned comment added by Life.temp (talkcontribs) 08:04, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure this was the correct approach to take. This request has been added on- and off-, several times. In my experience, requests are removed by the Committee as they decide is necessary, and until such times, they remain in place.

After all, the request for arbitration called for a full desysopping. That has not yet been delivered (this has been suggested to be a temporary measure, with no current, specified bar to resysopping, other than the Committee being "consulted"). Would you take great objection if I re-added it a final time?

Anthøny 21:47, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Since you were on the receiving end of quite a few of her personal attacks, you might want to weigh in on it here. --130.127.3.249 (talk) 05:34, 19 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done.

[1] - Don't worry about doing anything at 3RR, I quite like having my own little section ;-) ScarianCall me Pat! 21:28, 24 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies

Apologies for undoing your edit on Anti-Americanism ([2]), I would have preferred to wait until you were online again, but the situation was escalating (again) and I thought it best to not wait. henriktalk 11:59, 25 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Anti-Americanism: Truce

Please respond: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Anti-Americanism#Truce Life.temp (talk) 22:38, 25 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

FAR/Kazi Nazrul Islam

We are allowed to bring up criteria that you did not specifically highlight in FARC segmentation are we not? I do believe that the rewrite of the article has brought up a pile of 1a issues as well as more peacock issues. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 03:57, 26 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes; Marskell's segmentation contains only suggestions. You can bring up anything related to WP:WIAFA. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 04:00, 26 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

3RR Warning: Anti-Americanism

You've reverted 3 times in 24 hours, all without explanation in Talk. [3] [4] [5] You have also, in general, engaged in a revert war over a period of days, weeks, and months. Please make an effort to achieve consensus on the article. Life.temp (talk) 07:19, 26 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure why the queries are still coming to me and Gimmetrow; directing you to User talk:SandyGeorgia#Bots closing FARC and User talk:Gimmetrow#FARC close by your bot. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 13:09, 26 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

FA criteria

Tim—thanks for your changes, but I wonder whether you realised that there are now two sets of successive colons in each branch of that single-sentence list. That's why I'd used dashes. Do you think it's better now? diff TONY (talk) 13:48, 26 May 2008 (UTC) PS An alternative might be "It is—" TONY (talk) 13:49, 26 May 2008 (UTC) Um, no, on second thought, the dash is better in each lower-level clause, since the grammar, well ... see if you like what I've done. TONY (talk) 13:50, 26 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's no big deal; but the dash seems to better represent the equative relationship between the headers and the details (which are just big nominal groups in the manner of most image captions). I don't mind if you revert. TONY (talk) 14:01, 26 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
User_talk:Hoary#FA_criteria:_punctuation_problem TONY (talk) 14:23, 26 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Request for Peer Review help

Thank you for you work as a peer review volunteer. Since March, there has been a concerted effort to make sure all peer review requests get some response. Requests that have gone three days or longer without a substantial response are listed at Wikipedia:Peer review/backlog. I have three requests to help this continue.

1) If you are asked to do a peer review, please ask the person who made the request to also do a review, preferably of a request that has not yet had feedback. This is fairly simple, but helps. For example when I review requests on the backlog list, I close with Hope this helps. If my comments are useful, please consider peer reviewing an article, especially one at Wikipedia:Peer review/backlog (which is how I found this article). Yours, ...

2) While there are several people who help with the backlog, lately I have been doing up to 3 or 4 peer reviews a day and can not keep this up much longer. We need help. Since there are now well over 100 names on the PR volunteers page, if each volunteer reviewed just one PR request without a response from the list each month, it would easily take care of the "no response" backlog. To help spread out the load, I suggest those willing pick a day of the month and do a review that day (for example, my first edit was on the 8th, so I could pick the 8th). Please pick a peer review request with no responses yet, if possible off the backlog list. If you want, leave a note on my talk page as to which day you picked and I will remind you each month.

3) I have made some proposals to add some limits to peer review requests at Wikipedia_talk:Peer_review#Proposed_limits. The idea is to prevent any one user from overly burdening the process. These seem fairly reasonable (one PR request per editor per day, only four total PR requests per editor at a time, PR requests with cleanup banners can be delisted (like GAN quick fail), and wait two weeks to relist a PR request after it is archived), but have gotten no feedback in one week. If you have any thoughts on these, please weigh in.

Thanks again for your help and in advance for any assistance with the backlog. Ruhrfisch ><>°° 20:55, 27 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

G'day - I came in late to this to offer an opinion and note that it seems to now have reached consensus to close. Your help if you agree would be appreciated.--VS talk 04:00, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The FA-Team

Hi. There has been some discussion of how to improve the FA-Team's functioning. It's be grand if you could comment on the new suggested structure, and perhaps also look at our current proposals. Thanks. --jbmurray (talkcontribs) 18:37, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Birds June 2008 Newsletter

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Barack Obama archive

It didn't seem important at first, but now I think it would be better if Wikipedia:Featured article review/Barack Obama/archive3 were included in the Talk:Barack Obama {{ArticleHistory}}. This week at Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Trump International Hotel and Tower (Chicago)/1 we have had debates about instability and everyone is looking for established precedents. Obviously, the most famously dynamic page right now is Barack Obama. It would be better for the paper trail permanent record if his article history was all-inclusive. Please reply at my talk page.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 16:34, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It seems you are the person to talk to about User_talk:Raul654#Barack_Obama_archive. What is going on?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 21:30, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I am still looking for some clarification.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 23:59, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WP:V protection

Some of the same people revert warring here have just caused WP:ATT to be protected twice in quick sucession for the same reason. It might be useful to remove them rather than protecting it entirely because it is starting to get ridiculous. ViridaeTalk 21:48, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Leopard

Hey Marskell, you have expressed interest in this article previously. I'm trying to band together some editors for some kind of collab on this one in attempt of an FA; Cas has now also expressed interest. If you're interested in perhaps chipping in, let me know. If not, that's fine too, and thanks all the same. Best, -- Anonymous DissidentTalk 02:18, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Right on then. I think I'll chip in on the referencing and such whenever and as much as I can. Cheers, and happy editing, -- Anonymous DissidentTalk 15:15, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. As I stated on the talk page, I was adding some tags, and then was going to go about looking for decent sources. As Dissident points out, the bottom half of the article is lacking in sources. I don't at all see how this is bombing. I also think the leopard men section is out of place, and needs to be linked only on the disambig page. Beach drifter (talk) 16:42, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Degeneracy in America...

The Rubin and Rubin book has at last arrived...So far I have just read the first chapter - which is about our 'degeneracy theory'. Intriguing that North America was regarded as a philosophical conundrum by the savants of Europe. I guess it had to be fitted into the scheme of accepted thinking somehow. It seems to me that the same kind of thinking - which regards a land as cursed - is now applied to the continent of Africa. Colin4C (talk) 09:26, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That seems to be some kind of odd mistake on my part. Not sure where exactly I thought those last two were incorrect. Thanks for fixing that. -- Anonymous DissidentTalk 10:16, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Darn

Darnit. Although it has always been my intent, I forgot again, and I'm not sure I'll find time to get to this. Maralia ran the May FAC stats, and I failed to remember to do the same for FAR. Is there any chance you can run through your archives and add any special mentions to Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates#May FAC stats? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:46, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please see Wikipedia talk:Attribution#Protected (2). I'm very sorry if you thought that I was attacking you. In retrospect, I see that my choice of words was poor. —David Levy 15:29, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I would appreciate any feedback you can offer on this.--BirgitteSB 21:13, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Requests_for_arbitration: Anti-Americanism: Marskell & Colin4C

Youare hereby notified: Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration#Anti-Americanism:_Marskell_.26_Colin4C. Life.temp (talk) 01:02, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dispatch

We have at least a week to work on Wikipedia:FCDW/June 23, 2008; it started in Ealdgyth's userspace, and I'm gradually tweaking it. There are some pitfalls in this Dispatch (reliability of sources is not black and white, but we want to set out some basics for reviewers of how to check sources), so I'd really appreciate your help. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 20:55, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Tim, I know you're swamped, but I really need more eyes on this dispatch; do you have a chance to look it over? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 17:25, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Another one for you to watch: Wikipedia:FCDW/June 30, 2008 SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:12, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

ANI thread

As an involved party you may wish to comment here. Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#Community_ban_of_Bsharvy DurovaCharge! 07:24, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mail

Spam filter or atomic deathray? bishzilla ROARR!! 09:49, 15 June 2008 (UTC).[reply]

Primate peer review

Hey, if you've got time could you have a look at the primate peer review. I'd ideally like to get the article to FAC with a little help. Cheers, Jack (talk) 22:36, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

GimmeBot vacation

[7]. Means I'll be doing any closes manually, so anything you can hold off would be appreciated. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 06:12, 16 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Almost an hour, to do only two FARCs. Let me know if you see anything I missed. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:26, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think (not certain) he's back around the 22nd; keeps are easy, it's the removes that are a killer. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:47, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

FA-Team Mission 4

Mission 4, a series of articles on the Everglades, could do with help from the FA-Team! Thanks! Awadewit (talk) 13:03, 16 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Pronoun Problem

You have been recently active on the WP:V talk page. Please visit this discussion on WP:VPP and contribute comments if you want to. Thank you. 208.43.120.114 (talk) 02:16, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]