Talk:China–Japan relations

Talk page discrepancy

Alright, between the article renaming, the article splitting, and the reverting of the article renaming, the Talk page for the article got split into two, so now here we are.

What happened?

• The article was named Sino-Japanese relations.
• User:Koavf renamed it to People's Republic of China-Japan relations.[1]
• I did an article split to move the pre-PRC content back into Sino-Japanese relations, leaving the post-PRC content in People's Republic of China-Japan relations.[2]
• User:El C reverted the article renaming so now it is back in Sino-Japanese relations.[3]
• Unfortunately I had already started a fresh Talk page for Sino-Japanese relations, thus the new Talk page you are reading right now.[4]

So let's discuss before we do any more article renaming and further mess up the article state. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 16:27, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

We should talk about two topics.

1: Can we accept the spin-off of the article 'Japan-Pre-People's Republic of China relations' from this article?(the title is not fixed yet.)

2: Renaming, A:'Sino-Japanese relations', B:'People's Republic of China-Japan relations', C:'Japan-People's Republic of China relations'. D: other. Which is the best title for this article on the naming convention?

my opinion:

To 1: Yes, I can accept it. We already have the article:Japan-Taiwan relations. Taiwan is an active 'de facto' nation. (Actually, Taiwan tried to join United Nation this year). if we keep current state, we don't have the proper title for this article. China, Sino may include Taiwan. the article should not confuse the wikipedian.

To 2: C, I've already told what I should tell on renaming(see here).

--Boldlyman 22:07, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

I think Taiwan tries to join the UN every year. Any rate, I don't care if we moved this article to a title containing "People's Republic of China". However, if we do this, I would prefer that pre-PRC content stays at "Sino-Japanese relations". Not only is "Japan-Pre-People's Republic of China relations" unnecessarily wordy, "Sino-Japanese" is commonly used for, well, Sino-Japanese relations, even today. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 22:26, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

God, this is such a mess. I agree with HongQiGong. We should have three separate articles - Sino-Japanese relations, Japan-Taiwan relations, and Japan-People's Republic of China relations. LordAmeth 21:38, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Which is pretty idiotic (IMHO) and even more a mess. I suggest putting them all back to Sino-Japanese relations. Yes, Taiwan is a "de facto" nation, but its history is Chinese, its culture is Chinese, and its people are largely those who ran away from mainland China. I don't see why we shouldn't talk about both the PRC and the ROC in the same article. Aran|heru|nar 10:06, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Query: All of the references to the main article "Nanking Massacre" in this article are called "Rape of Nanking" or "Rape of Nanjing". It seems like the cross-reference links should match the main article title. Otherwise, it's confusing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Emilyrader (talk • contribs) 03:25, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

improving relations

This article seems to be largely focused on past relations, can we have a section about the steps the PRC and Japan have taken over the last few years at improving relations? 154.20.102.240 (talk) 20:02, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

agreed. there should be at least one section that focuses on the improvement of relations and future resolution of hard feelings