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Calling London

I don't recall his 450 splash ever being called "Calling London". I always heard them just refer to it as a 450 splash. TJ Spyke 21:57, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't remember them ever using this name either. In fact, someone removed the name "Cosmic Cyclone," which I actually thought I remembered Josh Matthews using on an edition of Velocity when London was going through that "grey fur coat and stomping" period. WikiFew 16:42, 24 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It used to be called that on his ObsessedWithWrestling.com profile, that is where everyone is getting it from. I don't remember it ever being called that either. I'm taking it out, seeing as the only verifiable source I have heard of for it no longer calles it that. The Hybrid 05:48, 25 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I reverted your edit as you this discussion is about the 450 splash and you removed info from the shooting star press --- Paulley

OOOPS, good catch ;) Sorry about that, I'll take care of the right one now. The Hybrid 04:19, 26 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

SSP Name

In ROH, London's top rope SSP was clearly called the London Star Press, so please stop removing that information. If you don't believe me, go look up London vs Danielson 2 out of 3 Falls or London vs Styles at Night of the Grudges; in both of those matches, the announcers clearly refer to it as the London Star Press.WikiFew 05:28, 25 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You are absolutely right. The article says London Calling for the top rope version and London Star Press for the standing one, but that's not quite right, is it?83.233.58.55 19:05, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Paul London's name

http://www.tv.com/paul-london/person/233824/summary.html
list Birth name as Paul Mark London.

I don't know how reliable of a source on tv.com is for biographies, as looks like biographies can be edited users with Level 2 registered on Tv.com

http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0518765/bio
list Birth name as Paul Michael Sanchez-Garcia London.

Registered users on imdb.com can not freely edit instead reports are sent to database managers.

Acclaim Talent Agency information on Paul London
http://www.acclaimtalent.com/html/london_p/london_p_ap1.htm Profile
http://www.acclaimtalent.com/html/london_p/london_p_resume.htm Resume
http://www.acclaimtalent.com/html/how_tos/actors_ht.htm states "In general we only represent talent in the greater Austin area" where London is from.

List name as Paul Sanchez Garcia London, the Talent Agency having a business relationship with the actor appears to be a stronger source. ▪◦▪=Sirex98= 23:55, 15 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Note on Acclaim Talent

As of 2/12/08, the link to his profile there no longer exists. Upon double checking, he is no longer listed at the Acclaim Talent website on either the general talent, commercial/editorial models or the Hispanic models pages. It is likely that the company either dropped him or he did not re-sign with them. Thewrestlingbabe1 (talk) 01:09, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Crappy Photos

I just noticed recently that a lot of pro wrestlers are getting crappy new photos on their Wikipedia articles. They all look like they were taken candidly by a cell phone and are just crappy. Why is that? Do we suddenly not have the rights to use their nice photoshoot images taken by WWE? This one and Brian Kendrick's are probably the worse I've seen so far, but then there's also Chris Benoit, Steve Austin, and others. Cale 06:06, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

They are free use, and are favored over the fair-use WWE pictures. All the WWE Pictures are getting deleted as we speak. -- Mikedk9109 (hit me up) 18:57, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

We are all pained by the crappyness of the photos, but by law we must use these over the WWE ones. -- T H L R^CCD 19:00, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

They are not even that bad, and your telling the creator (me), that I have crappy photography skills? -- Mikedk9109 (hit me up) 19:09, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It was more of a generalization; not a comment about this particular photo. Sorry if I offended you. -- T H L R^CCD 19:14, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wait, you've met Paul London? -- T H L R^CCD 19:17, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I have. -- Mikedk9109 (hit me up) 19:21, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cool. I would ask questions, but since I'm the one always complaining about these pages being used as a forum... -- T H L R^CCD 19:23, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There's nothing wrong with your photohraphy skills, but a picture with a more neutral look would be better. I bet many casual WWE fans wouldn't even recognize London from that picture.83.233.58.55 19:03, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

London's Ancestry

Paul London is of Mexican descent. This has been confirmed by the professional wrestling journalist Dave Meltzer and professional wrestler Konnan of TNA, whom has worked with London in the past. Both Meltzer and Konnan are well respected in this industry for their honesty and accuracy with regard to covering news.

To contact Dave Meltzer to confirm this you may go to his offical website:

http://www.wrestlingobserver.com/wo/

and email him at: dave@wrestlingobserver.com

To contact Konnan to confirm this, you may email him through his official myspace page here:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=80430148

User:Scanadiense 06:08, Jan. 19, 2007 (UTC)

Dropsault

Isn't the Dropsault his finisher nowadays? Just wondering since it isn't highlighted. Tywddle 13:37, 31 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

omg..whatthe hellhappened to his move set...it used to be like 40 things now its only cut down to 11.-TheRealHBK —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thewrestlingbabe1 (talk • contribs) 05:00, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

First WWE TV Aperreance

according to this article he was first seen as the fan that Flair accidently hit after tring to hit the Undertaker during their fued leading up to Wrestlemania 18

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0518765/bio Prince Bee 11:58, 20 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

IMDb is not a reputable source. NiciVampireHeart (talk) 04:37, 26 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Dating Ashley

I added in a reference for it; however, I was unable to post the link to ashley's actual myspace blog because it is blacklisted. However, in the reference I posted there is a link to the blog, so there shouldn't be any problems with the reference. NiciVampireHeart (talk) 04:37, 26 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

On Ashley's MySpace page updated on 2/14/08, all references to London had been removed and she had posted a blog concerning spending Valentine's Day alone. She is also listed once again as single. I also conferred with a source close to him that has confirmed they are no longer a couple. The link for additional information may be found at http://www.wrestleview.com/news2006/1203113713.shtml Thewrestlingbabe1 (talk) 04:43, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Active Roster

Why isn't he on the active roster? Vermon CaTaffy 8 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 21:02, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

He was injured. As it said in the article - he had a foot injury. Sorry, I know this reply was a bit late. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 23:43, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

He was on Raw on 2/4 when it was in Austin, but didn't do much during the match. His foot is still not 100 percent healed and he hasn't done any other shows since. Thewrestlingbabe1 (talk) 01:04, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Paul London/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Just glancing at the lead, it feels far too short. That said, taking a closer glance I can't think of much to add. Perhaps a mention of personal life?

I expanded it a little. There's not much to add about his personal life, but it mentions his former girlfriend. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 19:55, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"He made his debut in the independent circuit on 7 April 2000, competing in promotions throughout Texas." - his debut involved him competing in multiple promotions on the one day? Reword, I think.
- Done--SRX^--^Latino Heat 18:18, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
"London made his debut in Ring of Honor (ROH)" - he went from studying at Texas Uni to appearing on ROH? There must be something in between (how'd they choose him (or however it works))?

While studying, he was constantly competing on the Independent circuit, which id mentioned in the early career section. Nonetheless, I added a quick mention on it in that section too. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 20:06, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

which led to both London and Shane brawling" - brawling implies them fighting against each other?If so remove the "both". If not, then I have no idea what it's saying...
- Done--SRX^--^Latino Heat 18:18, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
"London competed in ZERO1 for several months, beginning in January 2003, before turning down a contract." - a bit confusing; wouldn't he have needed a contract to compete in the first place?
- In the universe of pro wrestling, wrestlers can compete for promotions in dark matches (or try-outs) without contracts. I read the source, it stated that Zero-one is a japan promotion, and japanese promotions call wrestlers from North America to wrestle for their promotion without a contract, so when he wrestled a couple of shows, they were impressed and offered him a contract, which he turned down.--SRX^--^Latino Heat 18:34, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I clarified that within the paragraph. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 19:57, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"On 2 February 2007, London and Kendrick suffered a non-title loss to the rookie team Deuce 'n Domino.[58] In a title rematch at No Way Out, however, London and Kendrick retained the championship - sounds awkward to name them twice in two sentences... perhaps reword to "however, they regained..." or something like that?
- Fixed.--SRX^--^Latino Heat 18:34, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Are the following sources reliable:
- http://www.gerweck.net/paullondon.htm
  - Gerweck is not reliable per FA criteria, but it is used in other GA's and no problem was encountered. --SRX^--^Latino Heat 18:34, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    - Replaced with SLAM! Wrestling. GaryColemanFan (talk) 20:30, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      - GA/FA criteria for sources should be the same thing; WP:V. Thanks GCF. —Giggy 08:25, 3 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- http://blogzarro.com/?p=184
  - It seems like a blog site, but It doesn't seem like anyone can edit it, only established personnel. So it seems okay. Plus it is a Q&A.
    - WP:SPS - is there any way of confirming that "James A." is reliable and didn't (say) make up the entire thing? That's the main issue. —Giggy 08:25, 3 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, the reference is used to say that he worked at Urban Outfitters and that his brother is a music video director. Could we leave that info out? I can replace the brother one with this if it's considered reliable. Also, on a side note, is this reliable? It mentions how he began working for TNA in it. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 15:16, 3 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The 411mania site should be fine per this. Not so sure about the other one but I'll let it go as it's probably only a minor deal. Passing now, —Giggy 00:07, 4 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

- http://www.usenet.com/newsgroups/rec.sport.pro-wrestling.info/msg00177.html (that one needs its date wlinked in the ref if it is reliable, though I don't think newsgroups usually are...)
  - Well it's just reprinting an article that WWE.com published, but then removed. I also date the ref.--SRX^--^Latino Heat 18:34, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As SRX said, the source is an exact replica of a WWE.com article, but the link to it is dead. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 20:08, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Any why is there a references section with duplicate info to the footnotes section?
- I have no idea why? But I fixed it.--SRX^--^Latino Heat 18:34, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That's about it - please leave me a talk page note when done. Cheers, —Giggy 08:19, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Paul London

Londons recent fued against Lance Cade and Chris Jericho is relivant and is Pauls biggest fued in a LONG time. Please add that to his profile. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.153.175.137 (talk) 03:57, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

@@ Line 107: / Line 107: @@
 On Ashley's MySpace page updated on 2/14/08, all references to London had been removed and she had posted a blog concerning spending Valentine's Day alone. She is also listed once again as single. I also conferred with a source close to him that has confirmed they are no longer a couple. The link for additional information may be found at http://www.wrestleview.com/news2006/1203113713.shtml[[User:Thewrestlingbabe1|Thewrestlingbabe1]] ([[User talk:Thewrestlingbabe1|talk]]) 04:43, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
-Not sure where to put this, but there is talk he had/is dating/dated 2007 Diva Search winner Eve. Since I haven't seen such information here or anywhere else--I am taking this as a rumor, unless someone can confirm or refute this. Thanks [[User:Thewrestlingbabe1|Thewrestlingbabe1]] ([[User talk:Thewrestlingbabe1|talk]]) 15:08, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 ==Active Roster==