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:::::Excuse me pls for having a different opinion as the others here: I'm quite disappointed about your closing statement, because it doesn't mention at all the witchhunt that Jehochman and others conducted against opposing voters. Jehochman could have checked the voters discretely at the checkuser pages, the right place to do so. Instead, he publicly discussed possible points of suspicion directly on the RfA page, creating an atmosphere of "guilty until proven innocent". This made it look as though everybody who opposed was in a cabal with the sockpuppeteers. Combined with the fact that, as usual, opposing voices had to defend their position and their good faith, while on the other hand ridiculously hollow statements like "support YES" or "support WOW" (not even a "per nom" in it!) went unquestioned, the unashamed bullying certainly kept many from going on the record with their concerns. Again, Rlevse and Jehochman could have done 'their job' discretely, but they turned this into a very public witchhunt instead. Imho this was not in the best tradition of Wikipedia, but a very dire case of improperly influencing the RfA (almost as bad as the sockpuppeting, imho). And now, you don't mention this at all, but merely congratulate the overeager exorcists. Sry, but I really don't think this is a satisfactory closing statement. [[User:Gray62|Gray62]] ([[User talk:Gray62|talk]]) 21:56, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::Excuse me pls for having a different opinion as the others here: I'm quite disappointed about your closing statement, because it doesn't mention at all the witchhunt that Jehochman and others conducted against opposing voters. Jehochman could have checked the voters discretely at the checkuser pages, the right place to do so. Instead, he publicly discussed possible points of suspicion directly on the RfA page, creating an atmosphere of "guilty until proven innocent". This made it look as though everybody who opposed was in a cabal with the sockpuppeteers. Combined with the fact that, as usual, opposing voices had to defend their position and their good faith, while on the other hand ridiculously hollow statements like "support YES" or "support WOW" (not even a "per nom" in it!) went unquestioned, the unashamed bullying certainly kept many from going on the record with their concerns. Again, Rlevse and Jehochman could have done 'their job' discretely, but they turned this into a very public witchhunt instead. Imho this was not in the best tradition of Wikipedia, but a very dire case of improperly influencing the RfA (almost as bad as the sockpuppeting, imho). And now, you don't mention this at all, but merely congratulate the overeager exorcists. Sry, but I really don't think this is a satisfactory closing statement. [[User:Gray62|Gray62]] ([[User talk:Gray62|talk]]) 21:56, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
::::::I can assure you as a person did not support the RFA and as someone who helped discretely gather the data at the crats request that all votes, including the supports, were analyzed very rigorously with an eye towards collusion and sockpuppetry. '''[[User:MBisanz|<span style='color: #FFFF00;background-color: #0000FF;'>MBisanz</span>]]''' <sup>[[User talk:MBisanz|<span style='color: #FFA500;'>talk</span>]]</sup> 22:16, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
::::::I can assure you as a person did not support the RFA and as someone who helped discretely gather the data at the crats request that all votes, including the supports, were analyzed very rigorously with an eye towards collusion and sockpuppetry. '''[[User:MBisanz|<span style='color: #FFFF00;background-color: #0000FF;'>MBisanz</span>]]''' <sup>[[User talk:MBisanz|<span style='color: #FFA500;'>talk</span>]]</sup> 22:16, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

== Admin recall of Ryulong ==

Hello, I have noticed that you were involved in an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ryulong/Archive_14#Recall admin recall] for the user "Ryulong". He has since had a request for another and mine new one is the third. I am initiating a new one because of [[WP:BITE]] during a problem with [[WP:NAC]] as can be viewed [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fr33kman&diff=238759120&oldid=238759064 here] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fr33kman&diff=238759728&oldid=238759120 here]. The entire issue can be viewed [[User talk:Fr33kman/PoorAdmins|here]]. If you would like to be involved in this discussion, it can be viewed on Ryulong's talk page [[User talk:Ryulong]]. If not, thank you anyway. Regards <small>[[User:Fr33kman|Fr33kman]]</small><sup><font color="blue" size="1">[[User talk:Fr33kman|talk]]</font> <font color="purple">[[m:APW|APW]]</font></sup> 23:57, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

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Thank you. I knew you would say that. Synergy 04:04, 13 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Heya

Hi; thanks for changing my nick to the new one I'd chosen so promptly! However.. I've had a change of heart and prefer the old one :S (which must be annoying..) should I go through the name change procedure again, wait a while, fill out some other form or just learn to live with the new username? the roof of this court is too high to be yours (talk) 04:21, 13 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Name Change

I've placed a request for my username to be merged with my SUL username Dark Mage which the link was removed you can see the request here and also would it be possible if you could un-protect my userpage and talkpage so I could edit it, thanks. Terra (talk) 10:58, 13 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you - GPV

Thank you for your quick and decisive response. Just an FYI, the checkuser is here. Thanks again, WJB. --David Shankbone 01:17, 14 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Cirt RfA

Came online to look at closing the RfA and found you'd made an outstandingly clear comment. Great job. --Dweller (talk) 21:21, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your very well-thought out words in the closing comment. Much appreciated. Cirt (talk) 21:25, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed... I'm thankful that you were willing to make a tough call, and IMHO, the correct one.---Balloonman PoppaBalloon 22:36, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I really hate to say this now, but my conscience requires me too. I was about to change from support to neutral (and perhaps even oppose, but not definitively). Regardless of my own hesitation in a +sysyop, and nothing against an otherwise excellent editor (cirt). That said, you made an excellent "closing rationale", and even had I personally had switched prior to your closing (I edit conflicted with you when you added the "yellow" closing template), I think you made a wise and informed decision. Cirt, if you are still reading this, I hope you harbor no ill-will in regards to this post, it is just something I needed to post on-wiki. I was going to move from support to neutral/oppose based on the opposition that arrived with diffs after I had offered my support. I wish you well with the admin tools, my potential movement from support to another position wasn't/wouldn't have been personal. Best of luck to you in your admin endeavors. Keeper ǀ 76 22:44, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for taking the time to give a detailed explanation of the close, it was very useful. MBisanz talk 22:47, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Excuse me pls for having a different opinion as the others here: I'm quite disappointed about your closing statement, because it doesn't mention at all the witchhunt that Jehochman and others conducted against opposing voters. Jehochman could have checked the voters discretely at the checkuser pages, the right place to do so. Instead, he publicly discussed possible points of suspicion directly on the RfA page, creating an atmosphere of "guilty until proven innocent". This made it look as though everybody who opposed was in a cabal with the sockpuppeteers. Combined with the fact that, as usual, opposing voices had to defend their position and their good faith, while on the other hand ridiculously hollow statements like "support YES" or "support WOW" (not even a "per nom" in it!) went unquestioned, the unashamed bullying certainly kept many from going on the record with their concerns. Again, Rlevse and Jehochman could have done 'their job' discretely, but they turned this into a very public witchhunt instead. Imho this was not in the best tradition of Wikipedia, but a very dire case of improperly influencing the RfA (almost as bad as the sockpuppeting, imho). And now, you don't mention this at all, but merely congratulate the overeager exorcists. Sry, but I really don't think this is a satisfactory closing statement. Gray62 (talk) 21:56, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I can assure you as a person did not support the RFA and as someone who helped discretely gather the data at the crats request that all votes, including the supports, were analyzed very rigorously with an eye towards collusion and sockpuppetry. MBisanz talk 22:16, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Admin recall of Ryulong

Hello, I have noticed that you were involved in an admin recall for the user "Ryulong". He has since had a request for another and mine new one is the third. I am initiating a new one because of WP:BITE during a problem with WP:NAC as can be viewed here and here. The entire issue can be viewed here. If you would like to be involved in this discussion, it can be viewed on Ryulong's talk page User talk:Ryulong. If not, thank you anyway. Regards Fr33kmantalk APW 23:57, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]