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WikiProject LGBT studies Newsletter

The Miss Julie Memorial LGBT studies WikiProject Newsletter

The LGBT studies WikiProject Newsletter!
Issue XVII: November 12, 2008

Wake up WP:LGBT! It's time to kick in gear and get some things done!

Project News

Wake up!

I say this to myself as much as I say it to all of us. I work a lot by myself or with individual editors who spend time at Featured Article Candidates. It seems on November 5 a fog was lifted off my brain that helped me realize that we have massive potential in this project to get things done. Take this allegory, for instance: On Wednesday, Nov. 5, 1980, my 10th-grade American history teacher started class by unfurling The New York Times. She pointed to its triple banner headline: “Reagan Easily Beats Carter; Republicans Gain in Congress; D’Amato and Dodd are Victors.” “Save this paper,” she told us. “This is the start of a whole new era.” Judith Warner from The New York Times

It definitely seems a start to a whole new era now. If planets align correctly to remind us that whatever advances we may have made in electing what appears to be an extraordinary president in the US, the moons that revolve around those planets also serve to illustrate it's not that simple. Florida, Arizona, and California all appear to have banned same sex marriage. As someone who was married in California and lives in Florida, this is particularly poignant. We seem to be at the juncture of two converging paths. If we maximize our efforts and take the right ones, we might just be able to affect some change for ourselves.

The power of Wikipedia and California Proposition 8 (2008)

Though what we do is an interesting hobby for some, we have the power to make a difference. California's ballot initiative to ban gay marriage was a fierce fight. It's being challenged right now, but just look at how Wikipedia played a role in that: in October 2008, 360,238 people read its article. On November 5, an astounding 467,000 people read it. I commend the editors who work on that article—both those who support and oppose it. A look at the talk page shows a concerted effort to keep it civil and accurate.

What can we do?

How do you fight ignorance? With information. That's what Wikipedia is for. This project is overwhelming with 8,576 articles in its scope. We can continue to work piecemeal as we have in the past, or we can focus on goals. These are examples of areas we can concentrate on.

Current political events	LGBT Media and Literature	LGBT History	Sex and sexuality
Articles about political issues in the US and around the world that have been especially relevant within the past 5 years	Depictions of LGBT people and issues on television, film, newspapers, magazines	Topics about gay rights activism and the opposition to it	Articles relating to sex and sexuality
Florida Amendment 2 (2008), California Proposition 8 (2008), E.O. Green School shooting, etc.	The Advocate, Curve (magazine), Washington Blade, Milk (film), Brokeback Mountain, etc.	Moral Majority, ACT UP, Queer Nation, Mattachine Society, Jesse Helms, Jerry Falwell, Mathew Shepard, etc.	Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, Transgender, sexual and gender expression, etc.

There are more than 8,000 articles to work on. Can we build a list of priorities? Can we build enough enthusiasm to work on these? What if we had editors who oversaw progress in these areas and reported to the talk page or in the newsletter? Surely someone here wants to report on the progress of sex articles.

Tony Perkins (irony) from the conservative Family Research Council was heartened by the recent passages of gay marriage bans. The Republican Party is without direction. What's going to take the place of a moderate voice will not be pleasant to our ears. Watching and improving articles of subjects that have opposed gay rights in the past will be of vital importance very soon, I predict.

But WP:LGBT is not a very active project

All we can do is start somewhere. The first step is answering this newsletter on the project talk page. Join in the discussion.

More things we can do

Give out more barnstars, and let each other know that what they're doing is valued.
Create a guide to stave off burnout, because editors in this project get burned out faster than others. There are many hills to climb.
Bring back the monthly collaboration project.
Participate in LGBT Peer reviews.
Get familiar with the characteristics of Good Articles and get our top priority articles to WP:GA.
Keep our project page and open tasks template updated.
Use the Newsletter, Moni3! You can suggest what to send out in the newsletter, too!
Offer research materials, copy editing, ideas, and support to your fellow editors.
Keep the project talk page informed of problems and discussions we should know about.

Proposal: Put Importance Levels on articles

If this was decided long before I was a member, maybe it's time to revisit it. Other WikiProjects, such as WP:Novels determine that some subjects have an importance category: Top, High, Mid, Low, or None (undetermined). If we decide that our most core articles, it might help to organize which articles to address first. Top importance, for example, would be Gay, Homosexual, Lesbian, Bisexual, Transgender, Sappho, Oscar Wilde, Stonewall riots, for example. High importance would be Homosexuality and psychology, Harvey Milk, Mattachine Society, Harry Hay, or Daughters of Bilitis, and so on. This can be a matter of discussion, or perhaps we could have someone in charge of determining these levels for all the articles we have tagged.

So, like Slim Whitman, "I'm Calling You"

The editors I have admired in the past, who have done great things alone, and who I think can help us all do extraordinary things now: SatyrTN, Dev920, Aleta, Becksguy, Otto4711, BelovedFreak, Benjiboi, Bookkeeper of the Occult, Queerudite, FisherQueen (I will marry you), PaulB, APK, ZigZig20s, AllStarEcho (I know you're out there), Raystorm, and my very own copy editor, Dank55.

These are the editors I've seen working (and I know I'm forgetting a few). There's more of you out there I haven't seen. Some of you are new. We need all of you. Please help.

Miami, January 18, 1977 after the gay rights ordinance was passed: While Bryant and the others were creating the beginnings of the repeal effort, (gay activists) Basker, Campbell, Kunst, and the other (gay rights) ordinance supporters congratulated themselves on their success and then quickly disbanded... There was no organized recognition or celebration of the victory. As one activist remembered, "We just went home." They had little idea of the battle that was before them. - Fred Fejes in Gay Rights and Moral Panic, 2008

Don't go home yet, please. --Moni3 (talk) 00:10, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Davenport

Sure, no problem. I hope they can help (though if there are questions they can't answer, I won't hold it against you). -- Biruitorul ^Talk 16:22, 15 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I looked at the FAC today and saw that you mentioned you had left comments on my talk page. I honestly did not see them - it looks like after you posted every time someone else put a new comment at the bottom and I assumed the yellow bar was for the other person's comment. Sorry!!! To answer your question, as much of the article as possible should be sourced to secondary sources. You need to find magazine or newspaper articles (or books) that discuss some of these sections of the article, and pick out what the magazines think is important. All claims of importance/notability need to be sourced to a secondary source (for example, "American Nurses Credentialing Center, the nation’s leading credentialing organization" should NOT be sourced to the ANCC itself). The article shoud not source an entire section (such as festivals) to a series of primary sources - that is potential OR because then you are choosing which festivals are important, rather than letting secondary sources determine which ones should be mentioned. In general, the sourcing needs a complete overhaul. Karanacs (talk) 15:41, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Same-sex unions

Hey, if the State Supreme Court does not rule on Prop H8 Wednesday (the earliest they would rule on it), should we put that the legality of the ban is questionable within the template? Also do you know anyone with SVG image editing abilities that can modify Image:Samesex marriage in USA.svg to indicate the legality of prop 8 is in question? Thegreyanomaly (talk) 08:28, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Yup, paying special care to avoid that and ready to report a 3RR on the dissenter (who has technically already violated it). Thanks for watchin my back! =) DP76764 19:50, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Meg Griffin

Are you the person whose been deleting my Meg Griffin edit? --6afraidof7 (talk) 19:51, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand where your going with this, who are you and what do you want? I think you may have the wrong talk page. --6afraidof7 (talk) 20:00, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Why are you being facetious? In fact, why do you seemingly regard me as an enemy in this situation? All I wanted was a reason why my edit was being deleted, if you'd done that in the first place we wouldn't be having this conversation now. --6afraidof7 (talk) 20:06, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm contacting you here because I find it very difficult to conduct two conversations on the same talk page, mainly because of edit conflicts. In response to your message, I don't know very much about edit summaries, I've just been stumbling around in the dark for quite some time on this website. If somebody delete's one of my edits, I simply wait for a message explaining why on my talk page, if nobody does leave a message, then I simply revert the deletion. --6afraidof7 (talk) 20:17, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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 ::Why are you being facetious? In fact, why do you seemingly regard me as an enemy in this situation? All I wanted was a reason why my edit was being deleted, if you'd done that in the first place we wouldn't be having this conversation now. --[[User:6afraidof7|6afraidof7]] ([[User talk:6afraidof7|talk]]) 20:06, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
+:I'm contacting you here because I find it very difficult to conduct two conversations on the same talk page, mainly because of edit conflicts. In response to your message, I don't know very much about edit summaries, I've just been stumbling around in the dark for quite some time on this website. If somebody delete's one of my edits, I simply wait for a message explaining why on my talk page, if nobody does leave a message, then I simply revert the deletion. --[[User:6afraidof7|6afraidof7]] ([[User talk:6afraidof7|talk]]) 20:17, 20 November 2008 (UTC)