Talk:Jeff Hardy

Current Girlfriend

Beth Britt and Please remember he has never dated a WWE/F Diva—Preceding unsigned comment added by Rockerchic1316 (talk • contribs) 23:20, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

You need a reliable source to back that up. And I don't see it claimed anywhere in the article that he has dated a Diva. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 20:48, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

according to his myspace he is not dating Beth anymore and is now dating Kelly Kelly —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.189.44.124 (talk) 22:36, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Jeff's myspace is www.myspace.com/itchweeed and he never says who he's dating and are you sure hes dating Kelly Kelly? because their are a lot of posers that I have found —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yasmiranda (talk • contribs) 03:19, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

I'd be pretty sure that he's dating Beth still. Matt's forever mentioning her in his blogs. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 13:35, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

On Matt's it said he and his wife got their house burnt (he's married) Kalajan (talk) 21:52, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

His Nicknames

Of what I know, Jeff Hardy was never called Willow the Wisp, Mean Jimmy Jack, and was only called Wolverine as a kid.

The ring names he now has are: Jeff Hardy The Charismatic Enigma The Legend Thriller The Rainbow-Haired Warrior

PLEASE CHANGE THE RING NAMES PLEASE —Preceding unsigned comment added by Iverson1315 (talk • contribs) 02:49, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Well, he was called Willow The Wisp, Mean Jimmy Jack and Wolverine in OMEGA, and they are sourced ring names, and the ones you have mentioned are all nicknames, and are in the nicknames section. Also, there is no need to shout, and please sign your talk page comments using four "~". Thanks, and happy editing. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 18:48, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

They don't have to sign their posts if they don't wish to. Killswitch Engage (talk) 15:44, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Can somebody please establish as to whether JH actually USED the ring name "Jeff Harvey", or whether it was a one-off typo by WWE back in the day as noted in the YouTube link; if it's a one off, it should be removed from the list of ring names. LancasterII (talk) 01:18, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Jeff Hardy has never wrestled as "Jeff Harvey". It was an one-off typo on the title card (or whatever is called) that they flash on the screen to introduce the wrestlers to the fans. This is like a lot of the misinformation in the manager section of a wrestler's profile where people list every wrestling and non-wrestling personality that has ever accompanied a wrestler to the ring, but yet those persons were not really a specific wrestler's manager. If you need examples, I can gladly name them. Keep in mind that if Wikipedia allows this to stand, then there will be a whole lot of wrestlers that would need to have their ring names updated because of errors in the title card for a wrestler when displayed on the screen. Wrestlers like Shawn Michaels who has had his named flashed on the screen of AWA Wrestling shows as "Sean Michaels" and "Shawn Micheals". Also Lex Luger who has his named flashed on a NWA pay-per-view as "Lex Lugar". A guy like Teijho Khan who had his named displayed as "T.Joe Khan", "Teijo Kahn" and other variants in wrestling promotions in the 80s. The list goes on an on. Just because it's a typo doesn't make it accurate and like I said, if this is the policy of this kind of article for Wikipedia, then all typographical error names for wrestlers will need to be added to a specific wrestler's profile. 75.89.232.90 (talk) 00:42, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

WWE often use different names for jobbers (which is what Jeff was at the time. Can you prove it was just a typo and not a name they gave him on purpose? As for managers, all the people in Jeff's article were his manager at one point. 01:58, 30 March 2009 (UTC)TJ Spyke

Can you prove that it wasn't a typo? It tends to lean more on the side of an error than WWE renaming enhancement talent. Like I said, if this is the policy for listing a wrestler's previous ring names, then there are a whole bunch of wrestlers that would need to have their articles on Wikipedia corrected to reflect misspelled names on title cards that were flashed on television when they were introduced before a match. Misspelled names of wrestlers being flashed on the screen (main event wrestlers and enhancement talent alike) were a common occurrence during the 80s and (up to the mid) 90s. Like I said, it doesn't take much to find these old wrestling shows that still play on t.v. and find examples of that common place practice. If their name happens to be misspelled it doesn't mean they went by that name or version of a misspelled name. Besides Harvey sounds a lot like Hardy, like Craig sounds a lot like Greg and Tully sounds like Telly. What's not to say that someone heard his last name wrong and that's how it got to "Harvey" instead of Hardy. Can you or anyone else provide other proof of times when Jeff Hardy was referred to as "Harvey" and I'm not talking about the Adamle error either. Like I said if this is allowed to stand then there are other wrestlers who would need their ring names data updated because of errors in the way their ring names were spelled. A guy like Ric Flair who more than on one occasion had his name displayed as "Rick" Flair on television. Want proof of that, go watch the Ric Flair vs. Pete Sanchez match on the Ultimate Ric Flair DVD. Better yet, check out this link and pause it around the 9:20 - 9:22 mark. His name is spelled as "Rick" instead of "Ric" yet no one bothered to update his ring name stat. There is too much inconsistency in the entire thing to be honest. You can't do for one and not their other. If typos count as legit wrestler names, then like I said a lot of wrestlers bios would need to be updated. As far as managers are concerned, I wasn't talking about the Jeff Hardy page specifically but thanks for the input on what I already knew.75.89.232.90 (talk) 01:49, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

WWE has done done names with slight variations on purpose. When Monty Brown first came to WWE, they gave him the name "Marquis Cor Von". After about 2 weeks they changed it to "Marcus Cor Von" (both were pronounced the same way). TJ Spyke 01:57, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

I'm not (nor is anyone else) contesting Marcus (or Marquis) Cor Von. Monty Brown has wrestled as both in the WWE. The point of contention is if Jeff actually wrestled as "Harvey" which there is no proof that he did other than what appears to be a typographical error that was typical of the 80s and 90s time frame like previously stated. The match in question I believe is Jim Neidhart vs. "Jeff Harvey", if someone can find that video and the announcers refer to Jeff as Harvey, then it would be a whole lot more believable. However like previously stated because it's a typo or slight intentional variation doesn't mean it's accurate. On WWE television Ric Flair was referred to as "Rick Flair". So on your notion of slight variations, Flair's ring names should be updated to include "Rick Flair" as well, yes? I mean because it was misspelled presumably intentionally wrong it must be true, correct? If that's the case the other examples I listed should have their ring names updated to just on the policy that you are stating alone, if not anything else. At this point there is no more proof of Jeff actually going by "Harvey" than him not going by it which means that it really shouldn't be included unless there is solid proof to support it. Who knows the announcers may refer to him as actually "Hardy" and not "Harvey" or vice-versa in that match but no one will know until that match is made available or someone finds it on the Internet. 75.89.232.90 (talk) 02:37, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Please sign at the end of your posts, not the beginning. It could just be a type. I just watched the video of his first WWF match (against Razor Ramon in 1994) and they spelled his name correctly. TJ Spyke 03:12, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Why the hell is there a youtube link as a source? WP:YOUTUBE. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 02:01, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

The scene is from the Hardy Boyz DVD ("Twist of Fate: The Matt & Jeff Hardy Story"). I just got the DVD, so I will watch it and then replace the YouTube source (which shouldn't be used at all here since it is to a copyrighted WWE video that is illegally being hosted on YouTube). TJ Spyke 02:26, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Protection

I requested page-protection since the article has been getting quite a bit of vandalism in the last 24 hours.  Hazardous Matt  14:06, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Why has no one updated his page since the champ scramble at unforgivin and his chase for the wwe championship

P.S. i once heard he dated trish stratus in toronto to a date at the rogers centre —Preceding unsigned comment added by Slash Johnstone (talk • contribs) 15:05, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Week-by-week information, and you need a reliable source for him dating Stratus. Also, please sign your talk page posts using 4 "~". Thanks, ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 15:11, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

I came across Youtube to watch WWE as I was bored and heard Jeff Hardy and Matt Hardy are reunited but I doubt it's notable even if there's a source for it as it could be "Week By Week" and plus, Youtube "isn't" a source which one of the reason is that the "source" would get deleted eventually and also it's not easy to find sources which is part of Wikipedia's job. Should there be no such rule, Wikipedia will be full of rumors, things that haven't concluded, etc. And I know this isn't a forum, thank you as I'm just telling you or rather asking you whether Jeff and Matt Hardy reuniting should be included or not. 121.120.25.112 (talk) 13:43, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Nope, but it may be worth a mention at the Hardy Boyz page. Darrenhusted (talk) 13:51, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Already on the Hardy Boyz page. ;) ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 17:41, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Since there is page-protection what somewhat note the Jeff Hardy is a one-time World Champion in his bio page similar to John Cena's current page "J Bird4131 (talk) 01:41, 25 January 2009 (UTC)". Thanks J Bird4131 —Preceding unsigned comment added by J Bird4131 (talk) • contribs) 01:32, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

That would be pretty redundant, since it already says he's the current WWE Champion in the lead. Once he loses the championship, and the lne I mentioned is removed from the lead, then it'll be added. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 14:03, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

HEEL?

I don´t think he´s gone heel yet. we should wait for next week to be suireKalajan (talk) 10:55, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Agreed. Hardy attacking other heels, i.e. Miz + Morrison, doesn't automatically make Hardy heel. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 14:08, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

It seemed obvious to me that he wasn't turning heel, he was just prooving that he is still "extreme". It's like when Hardy would hit the Twist of Fate on Triple H before their PPV matches. TJ Spyke 14:14, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Even though he attacked heels like Miz, Morrison and Kozlov he attacked a fan favorite, The Undertaker. As a result of that he's been showing signs of a tweener (not a heel, not a face), Also did you see his entrance no dancing just walking to the ring, well we will wait till next week in his Extreme Rules with The Undertaker to see if he's still face, or if he's heel or a tweener.--Brothers of destruction (talk) 17:32, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Yes, exactly. Wait. We don't know and anything that gets added in is original research. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 17:34, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Yeah he'll probably get allied with vickie but just in case we'll wait. Kalajan (talk) 21:48, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

He's probably going to turn heel soon and its weird to see Khali as a heel 72.137.92.174 (talk) 18:36, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

wikipedia is not a forum. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 18:49, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Usually, when you pull a doublecross on a partner, it's at least the first sign of heeldom. Sure, he didn't fully doublecross Triple H, but he did screw him out of a win with his behavior. Plus, he attacked the Taker. His only high point is telling Vickie that she isn't immune to his extreme rules. Heels don't usually blast other evil entities. I hope not though. I like Hardy. One Pissed Bitch 10:34, 15 November 2008 (CST)

Now its time to say he turned heel and put a photo of him in his new face paint. And he said something about living in gray i think Kalajan (talk) 15:49, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Week-by-week, a Free image is needed, and still to say he's turned heel is original research. His interactions with Vickie Guerrero, and attacking Kozlov don't indicate a heel turn. It's a tweener at best, and that's still speculation. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 16:19, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Course not, he attacked undertaker and triple h too, and look at his face, how can you say hes not heel - in anyways u can say he changed gimmickKalajan (talk) 12:19, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

He used to paint his face years ago as well, and he was face then. Like TJ said up above, he's proving that he's still extreme, that doesn't automatically indicate heel. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 12:32, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

In his last run with WWE, he used to have facepaint not only on his face but all up his arms (by the end opf the match it rubbed off onto his opponent. TJ Spyke 15:17, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

add that hes totally changed!!!!Madmaxxx (talk) 11:13, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Read the section right above your post. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 11:19, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

but he walks as if he was drunk, thats a change of gimmick Kalajan (talk) 16:59, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

It seems like original research to me. Unless you have a reliable source to say that he walks like he's drunk... Besides that's not really a gimmick change. He's just proving he's extreme again, as has been said repeatedly on this thread. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 01:16, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Semi-Protection

I've had the article semi-protected for 3 months due to a whole load of vandalism and unsourced infomation being added. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 19:31, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Unconscious

"Hardy was found unconscious" Angle or real? The reference is from the wwe website. So...?--Abhishek Jacob (talk) 16:06, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

At this point - nothing has been confirmed (whether it's real, or an angle). All we can do is wait to find out. iMatthew 16:14, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

http://www.pwinsider.com/ViewArticle.php?id=34836&p=1 Well, most likely it's kayfabe, but I think we should leave iit out of the article until it's cemented, ie after the Survivor series PPV. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DonJuan.EXE (talk • contribs) 19:11, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

From Inside Sources from the WWE, this event with Jeff Hardy being unconcious is a real event. Jeff Hardy was rushed to a medical facility and was diagnosed with loss of energy and high blood pressure. Jeff Hardy has been on scheduled events and recenlty flew into Boston for Survivor Series and upon his arrival and room at a hotel, Jeff traveled to his room and was going to travel to a nearby drug store for sleeping pills, until he collapsed in some stairs of the hotel. He will be releases as he is very fatigued but indeed will compete for his match, but do not expect much except for his signature moves and double teams on Koslov, as Koslov will control majority of the match. This event will be played as a storyline to give Hardy a hype as persay "Kozlov" supposably took him out. And will have him take out Triple H as well. It is also leaked that Jeff Hardy will not win tonight's triple threat on the interference of EDGE, making his return and fueding with Hardy to the Royal Rumble. End of Discussion.

No, not end of discussion. You don't provide any sources, nor did you even sign you name, so we can't take you, um, "information" as a reliable source.--DonJuan.EXE (talk) 01:10, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Agree with DonJuan. It's widely confirmed that this "consciousness" is a work (eg [1]) but we have to wait and see the rest. It's pure speculation whether Edge is going to return tonight and interrupt the match. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 01:14, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Nothing can be confirmed or denied at the moment. Vermon CaTaffy 8 (talk) 01:47, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Well the link I've provided above is deemed very reliable, but in any case, it doesn't matter as it'll only be added if it leads to a notable storyline. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 01:49, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

It's WWE and they want to ensure more PPV buys so therefore it's all part of the angle. 203.211.119.101 (talk) 01:51, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

you people really need to check out www.411mania.com/wrestling alot more. they confirmed that WWE staged the whole thing to make Edge WWE champ and make a triple thret match at the next ppv. and by the way this site has never been wrong on news since they lanched in i belive 1996. i new this was staged b4 anyone else knew cause just moments after wwe posted it on there website of jeff being unconsious i headed straight to 411mania and checked it out to see if it was real or kayfabe and sure enough there it was. in fact heres a straight article talking about a release.

WWE Releases Two Developmental Talents Posted by Larry Csonka on 12.03.2008

Happy holidays indeed…

WWE released Imani Lee as well as Mike Jarvi today. Lee, who was signed in May is a former K-1 fighter and a friend of Batista's. Jarvi was trained by Dory Funk and had the support of Jimmy Hart when he was signed back in October of 2007.

put that in your pipe and smoke. and ill stress the fact again.THIS SITE HAS NEVER BEEN WRONG ITS A EXTRODINALRY RELIABLE. IF YOU SAY ITS NOT UR FULL OF SHIT. (Jonathanmbarnes (talk) 06:23, 4 December 2008 (UTC)JonathanJonathanmbarnes (talk) 06:23, 4 December 2008 (UTC))

Okay, first, only one person in the above discussion even considered it to be true. Second, please read this.  Hazardous Matt  12:42, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Also, even the most reliable news sites in the world are not right 100% of the time, so please don't say that 411mania is never wrong. TJ Spyke 15:12, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

I will when they finally make a flaw 69.34.111.9 (talk) 01:10, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Photo

I think we should have a photo of Jeff Hardy as WWE champion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.79.38.72 (talk) 13:28, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Maybe. A free one would be preferred, but that may not be possible yet (unless somebody who went to the PPV last night took a picture and can upload it here). TJ Spyke 16:59, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

It wouldn't surprise me. Jeff spent about five minutes posing after his match -- and I watched every second of it. 75.151.84.17 (talk) 17:24, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

If only more people uploaded (free) pics and told us about it. Tony2Times (talk) 03:20, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

A WWE.com photo will work fine, as long as it's not in the infobox, because as of now, there's no known free alternative. Mshake3 (talk) 04:10, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3243/3110247094_86f48ffcbb.jpg?v=0 is a great pic for it —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.107.137.237 (talk) 01:53, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Recentism

Obviously being wary of recentism we don't list every win and loss but considering that this push has led to him being WWE Champion I think it warrants more than just he was in three PPVs and lost them. As an encylopedia we should be relating the story, which is more than the losses and eventual win. It should be said how they built the angle based around him not just losing, but coming close each time and then his eventual win, not to mention him being booked for Survivor Series but then being attacked in his hotel and him proving he was extreme by painting his face and going on a bit of a frenzy. And maybe as an aside put that he won a Slammy for the swanton from the Raw set although that's not too important. Tony2Times (talk) 03:31, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

I agree with the above, i think it should include a bit more info about the angle, it should give someone reading it a better understanding of how they drew it out and built it up for so long.89.100.221.196 (talk) 20:37, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Move name

Just noticed this and thought it was worth a mention. Jeff refers to his rope assisted corner dropkick as the Hardyac Arrest in the video located on the following page: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/wrestling/article1819783.ece —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.175.37.34 (talk) 00:37, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Well, add it if it's reliable. Mecha13 (talk) 14:57, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Unfortunately I can't edit the page, despite having been a member longer than the supposed necessary period. I'm not sure if The Sun counts as a reliable source - it's not listed on the project page as either reliable or unreliable - but I'd be very surprised if it did. On the other hand the video is of Matt and Jeff talking directly into the camera, so it's clearly correct, even if it's from an unreliable source. I don't know where to make the call on that. Sordyne (talk) 11:12, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Okay, edited. Sordyne (talk) 11:44, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

HHH feud

Shouldnt't his intense recent HHH feud be added? They don't put anything about them constantly beating each other up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.113.193.137 (talk) 03:13, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

That's week-by-week. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 09:00, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

True but i just mean they should put something about their short but intense fued.(by the way i made the talk article) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrpengo88 (talk • contribs) 05:32, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Face paint

Shouldn't we mention his recent use of face paint on his matches? Brady4mvp (Talk) 00:31, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Don't really see a reason for it to be added SuperSilver901 (talk) 23:08, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Jeff was injured on the cutting edge.His fireworks hit him.This was not supposed to happen —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.107.87.134 (talk) 23:54, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Actually, it was. The fireworks thing is part of the storyline (made more obvious by the fact that Jeff said it's the same person who hit him with a car and attacked him before the Survivor Series). He wasn't really hurt. The rumor (and I stress RUMOR, not fact) is that it's Christian since he is gone from TNA and TNA president Dixie Carter even said he's signed with WWE. TJ Spyke 00:01, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

No it was Matt Hardy who turned heel on Sunday —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.107.137.237 (talk) 01:54, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Did he say "rumor"? Yes, he did. It was posted prior to the airing of the event. --Kaizer13 (talk) 02:08, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Isn't this supposed to be about his face-paint? Mecha13 (talk) 14:56, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

semi-protection removal

Could this semi-protection be removed please? It's really quite annoying. Mecha13 (talk) 14:58, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

It's protected due to vandalism. It'll expire in a few weeks, and besides, since you have an account, you should be able to edit it in the next few days. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 15:32, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

So the semi-p only affects ip's and new users? So how long do I have to wait? Mecha13 (talk) 15:42, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Yes, only ips and new users. I believe it is four days from the time your account is created, but I am not entirley sure. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 15:49, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Yes, accounts less than 4 days old. Mecha, it's not that hard to just wait a few days. There are plenty of other articles to edit and you can request any changes here that you think should be made to the article. TJ Spyke 19:19, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Mecha has been identified as a sock puppet of Kalajan. Cheers, JakeDHS07 05:15, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

jeff hardys girl friend

jeff hardys girl friend.well her name is Shannon O'Donnell —Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.254.49.31 (talk) 04:03, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Unless you have a reliable source, it doesn't go in the article. TJ Spyke 04:20, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Actually his girl friend's name is Beth so not only is it unsourced but its wrong. Cheers, JakeDHS07 05:14, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

jeff betrayed by matt

at the royal rumble 2009 matt hit jeff with a steel chair and cost him many victores against his rival Edge —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.73.155.99 (talk) 16:30, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

The RR is already mentioned, and "may cost him many victories" is pure speculation. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 09:31, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

2nd Person To and 1st Person to

If it is noted on Chris Jericho's page that he is the first person to win all 5 of WWE's top attitude era titles (Hardcore, European, IC, World Tag, WWE title) shouldn't it be noted for Jeff Hardy being the second to do so? and Jeff also held the lightweight championship too, so that would make him the first guy to hold every single title (except the women's title of course) from WWE's attitude Era. Jeff is the only one to have held the Hardcore, European, World Tag, Lightweight, IC, and WWE title. 69.248.229.206 (talk) 17:09, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

So, going by said logic, would you mention that a guy is the 17th champion to blah blah something? --Kaizer13 (talk) 17:28, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Plus he isn't the second. Kurt Angle and RVD did it too. Tony2Times (talk) 01:42, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

That is not true, and both of your facts are wrong. Jeff was first. RVD nor Kurt Angle have ever held the WWF/E Light heavyweight Championship. Jeff is the first to win all 6 from the attitude era being the light heavyweight, hardcore, wwe tag team, european, intercontinental, and the wwe title. nobody else has held the combination of those 6 titles. However, you are right about Jeff not being second, as RVD and Kurt Angle did hold the five titles of tag team, IC, european, harcore, and WWE title, so yes, I was wrong about the "2nd person ever"RVD were before Jeff Hardy. i was not wrong about "THE FIRST PERSON EVER" because Y2J, Kurt Angle, nor Rob Van Dam have ever held the WWF/E Light Heavyweight Title (which is different than the cruiserweight title which neither still have ever held "inside the WWE"). but like i said, Jeff is the first and only person to capture all 6 of WWE's major attitude era titles. the only other person that is contracted by WWE and has a shot at also doing so, is Christian, with he too being a former lightheavyweight champion, european, IC and wwe tag team. all he has to do is win the wwe title. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.248.229.206 (talk) 23:50, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

music, sculpture & painting involvement

Jeff Hardy also involve in music, sculpture, & painting. So, should we write that "Jeff Hardy is an American professional wrestler, musician, sculptor, and painter" instead of just "professional wrestler"? --Rimara (talk) 13:56, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Those are just hobbies though, so I would say no. If he were to release a CD, or sell a painting or sculpture, then maybe. TJ Spyke 14:51, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

I agree with TJ. His music and art is mentioned in the lead anyway. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 16:02, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Substance abusse

It talks of him being suspended for the second time for drug usage just before WrestleMania XXIV but I can't seem to find the first time he did it. I remember him taking time off and assuming it was a drugs bust, and found it hilarious he came back to win the IC Belt off Umaga because he'd just been busted and needed to job the title but here it's only attributed to a bad fall; is this the first time he was suspended and we just don't have a source or am I/the article missing something? Tony2Times (talk) 01:46, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

I believe that that the "bad fall" was his first time suspended, but we just don't have a reliable source to add it. If you can find one, by all means add it. WWE still wasn't releasing the names of the wrestler they suspended at this point either, which makes it that much harder. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 09:20, 23 March 2009 (UTC)