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I wouldn't expect you to remember our discussions. Many people have written to me asserting that what is on that page is needed to assess the [[User:Rednblu]] account. That whole deleted page was moved from the [[Talk:Human]] discussion, is that not so? Perhaps if you could restore that page just temporarily to some page under my account we could both look at it and perhaps then delete it again. What could be the harm in that? [[User:Rednblu|Rednblu]] | [[User talk:Rednblu|Talk]] 04:21, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
I wouldn't expect you to remember our discussions. Many people have written to me asserting that what is on that page is needed to assess the [[User:Rednblu]] account. That whole deleted page was moved from the [[Talk:Human]] discussion, is that not so? Perhaps if you could restore that page just temporarily to some page under my account we could both look at it and perhaps then delete it again. What could be the harm in that? [[User:Rednblu|Rednblu]] | [[User talk:Rednblu|Talk]] 04:21, 13 November 2005 (UTC)


::I can't keep going back and forth about this. The page isn't needed for anything, and how could anyone know that it's "needed to assess" the account (whatever that means) given that it's deleted? Whatever's going on, I'd prefer not to be involved. [[User:SlimVirgin|SlimVirgin]] <sup><font color="Purple">[[User_talk:SlimVirgin|(talk)]]</font></sup> 04:30, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

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Do you have time to restore that deleted page to some page under my account? Sorry to trouble you. I am not sure what you meant when you wrote [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AHuman&diff=11582943&oldid=11579775 "there is a problem regarding the Rednblu user account."] But we don't have to ever figure that one out. :) Let's move forward. You created the page [[Talk:Human/Rednblu]] where we had that March 2005 discussion, then you moved that discussion to [[User_talk:SlimVirgin/Rednblu]], and then the page disappeared. Isn't that exactly what happened? Many people write to me saying that they have to see our discussion that was on that deleted page. My only interest is to have our discussion available for them since they ask for it. If what they tell me is right, and that is how I remember it also, this deleted page is not just your thoughts and cogitations. Many other people were part of those discussions also; so the discussions are a proper part of Wikipedia proceedings. Maybe you don't want that page restored under your account? Fine. Then please restore that page under my account, thank you. Sorry to trouble you, but we need that discussion undeleted. And I cannot do it myself. So I would appreciate your help here. Thanks. [[User:Rednblu|Rednblu]] | [[User talk:Rednblu|Talk]] 05:07, 13 November 2005 (UTC)


== [[WP:MENTCOM]] ==
== [[WP:MENTCOM]] ==

Revision as of 05:07, 13 November 2005

Imagine a world in which every single person on the planet is given free access to the sum of all human knowledge. That's what we're doing. — Jimbo Wales [1]

Education is the ability to listen to almost anything without losing your temper. — Robert Frost


And in the (increasingly likely) event that you're here with a personal attack: "Any time something is written against me, I not only share the sentiment but feel I could do the job far better myself. Perhaps I should advise would-be enemies to send me their grievances beforehand, with full assurance that they will receive my every aid and support. I have even secretly longed to write, under a pen name, a merciless tirade against myself."
Jorge Luis Borges

"[W]e ought to read only books that bite and sting us. If the book we are reading doesn't shake us awake like a blow to the skull, why bother reading it in the first place? So it can make us happy? Good God, we'd be just as happy if we had no books at all ... A book must be the ax for the frozen sea within us."
Franz Kafka


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Mark A. Gabriel

Hello SlimVirgin. You mentioned in Talk:Mark A. Gabriel that you read of a reviewer, who stated that Gabriel's books looked as if they were written by a ten-year-old? Do know the name of this exact reviewer? I'd like to know about him or her. Regards, --Gramaic | Talk 02:36, 9 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!!

Wow - that was a close one. Thanks so much for everything, not just nominating me but working hard to press my case. Next time I'll provide the Johnny Walker (Black Label of course!) I greatly appreciate it! Ramallite (talk) 03:57, 9 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Heh, remember when you asked me how much support it would take for him to pass? Like 30 more people.. and he still pulled it off. My lord... Redwolf24 (talk) 04:21, 9 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Might want to check out the bottom of the talk page for my additional comment... - Ta bu shi da yu 07:48, 9 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Anniversary

Hey, it appears that you have been editing Wikipedia for a year now (O.K., I missed the exact anniversary by a couple of days). Congratulations/Condolences! Keep up the good work! Jayjg (talk) 16:43, 9 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Help with Striver

Slimvirgin, I'm turning everywhere in a search for help dealing with the user Striver, and coming up empty. He has made 500 edits in the last four days. Many of them have been to create new articles of complete uselessness. He is also trying to turn various Islam-related articles into items of Shi'a piety.

He has decided that he is going to make all his article references by creating an article for the book he wants to reference, then linking to it. I asked him PLEASE not to do this, and he asserted, basically, that I was not the boss of him and he could reference books in a new way if he wanted to do so.

For examples of both trends, see the Ali article. There are his cockamamie references. He is also filling it up with Shi'a myths (Ali born in the Kaaba) and quotes laudatory of Ali.

He can't write, can't spell, and has no sense of what is a useful reference and what isn't. Take a look at his user page and see if you come to the same conclusion that I do about his mental state. Is there nothing one can do about a editor of dubious ability and amazing stamina? It is going to take months to clean up after him, even if he's stopped NOW. IMHO, he's trashing Wikipedia. What CAN I do? Zora 17:07, 9 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

BCCI

Hey, Slim. I notice you've been doing a lot of good cleaning-up of Abu Nidal recently. (Nice job, by the way!) I thought I'd mention to you that the BCCI article is pretty anemic. It's a very important scandal, tieing in a bunch of hot topics: John Kerry's biggest accomplishment in the Senate was bringing BCCI down; many of the folks that funded 9/11 made their money at BCCI; the CIA's involvement in finance really got started here; Saudi Arabia's money in the U.S. is a potential hot-button issue, and you can't understand that without understanding BCCI; and the banking scandals of the 80's (including the infamous S&L bailout) are tie in too. I don't want to sound like a conspiracy nut here, but it really is all related. So a comprehensive BCCI article is badly needed. I just haven't gotten around to doing the research and writing it. So I thought it I brought it to your attention, it might somehow magically blossom into a featured article without me having to work at it. ; )

Hope things are going well for you. – Quadell (talk) (bounties) 23:12, 9 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds great! Good luck! – Quadell (talk) (bounties) 23:27, 9 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

One more thing. A guy named Steve has been editing the Salem al-Hazmi article, and it needs a little love. Could you give it a look-see? – Quadell (talk) (bounties) 03:26, 11 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Annoying vandals

Thanx for banning User:70.190.26.38. 68.39.174.238 02:29, 10 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Philwelch's RfA

Thanks for supporting me on my successful RfA, and I'll see you around Wikipedia! — Phil Welch 03:15, 10 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals

Please describe your edits in more detail. In your last edit to PETA you decribe your changes as rv to New Testament; the "bible" doesn't only refer to the Christian bible). That's great, but you also deleted a reference I added as well as changing other text not related to the edit description. I accept your Christian Bible change, but it is fact that it is a minority of Christian scholars believe that Jesus was a vegetarian. I left you two references to this fact.--129.173.105.28 01:48, 11 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Email

Please check your email. --a.n.o.n.y.m t 03:12, 11 November 2005 (UTC) [reply]

SV please check email. --a.n.o.n.y.m t 01:50, 12 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Utterly frivolous request

Hey, I hope I'm not posting here inappropriately, but I wanted to email you a (frivolous for you, semi-serious for me) question regarding PETA. If that's not totally annoying (understandable if it is), can you tell me the best way to do this? IronDuke 05:41, 11 November 2005 (UTC) [reply]

Your attention requested

Please see Talk:Jordan#Blatherskyte. Tomer TALK 06:31, 11 November 2005 (UTC) [reply]

You coy bird!

"is npa3 defenestrated, by the way?"

It had been a while, but I was scratching my head, certain that that template had had its teeth pulled. You're really twisting a tom's tail there, and I have made a vow to be very very nice to the old tiger.

I'm interested in the whole dispute resolution spectrum, and this seems like an obvious thing to me. First we eliminate an atmosphere in which personal attacks are accepted, or even grumpily ignored. When someone makes an attack, other contributors, any contributor, should feel as though they have both the duty and the right to say, "Hey! Stop it!" They should also feel safe in doing so.

I had a guy jump me on the train Thursday because I asked him to leave alone a schoolgirl he was hassling. Half the time it's like that here, if you step in then all that happens is that you start copping it.

Once we've licked that, we begin to work on civility. Ok, we may have to start with me, but I can live with that.

Oh, and thanks for the compliment.
brenneman(t)(c) 06:52, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
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Yellow train

Hi, thanks for tidying up the small page i created....always appreciate help. But am interested in what flagged the page as needing attention? Collieman

Found this page in my travels, it looks like a temporary page. I thought I'd leave it to you to delete or move to a more appropriate location. -- Netoholic @ 18:58, 11 November 2005 (UTC) [reply]

Hi, Slim!

Thanks for your help this morning. (Well, I'm not sure if it was morning where you are.)

I recently started an article on nutritionist Erica White, and looking at it now, I'm wondering if it's too anecdotal. I started one earlier on Patrick Holford, and am much more comfortable with that one, because it's based more on facts and dates (where he studied, what organizations he founded, what books he has written). In the case of Erica White, I find that the information known about her is less concrete – she felt ill, her doctor was unsympathetic, her husband carried her meals up to her, etc. Sure, there are simple historical facts with dates, like starting the diploma course or setting up her own practice, but these things are not so interesting as her transformation from someone who lay on the sofa all day long while her husband washed the dishes to someone whose business expanded so rapidly that her husband had to give up his job in order to manage it full time.

If you have time, could you take a look and remove or change anything that you think shouldn't be there. I'm positive that she's notable enough for an article, but I mightn't be distant enough to be sure how to write it, as eight members of my family are patients of hers (through e-mail and telephone) with wonderful results. I don't think the article should be controlled by a very satisfied patient, though, and so far nobody else has gone near it!

Despite the drama this morning at my talk page, which wasn't really that bad – I eventually stopped reverting because I felt it was just wasting server space with all the versions stored in the page history – I'm going to ask you to unprotect my userpage, and we'll just see what happens. I'd like to make a few changes to it.

Thanks for always being around to help! Ann Heneghan (talk) 21:32, 11 November 2005 (UTC) [reply]

Origin of the conflict

Please see [2]. If this is the origin of Willmcw's monitoring of my edits, then this whole mess is one giant case of mistaken identity aggrevated by bad faith assumptions. Rangerdude 06:52, 12 November 2005 (UTC) [reply]

Israel

I'm sorry, but I doubt you read the changes entirely, or you would not have stated "rv to last version by Zero; I agree that it's better without these changes". That edition you two have reverted to contains outdated information on demography that changes from what is in stated in the intro to what is stated in the demography section. Further, I have also added Ladino as a spoken language. Please do not deny this. And I have also added that Arabic is also spoken my some Mizrahi and Teimani.

Please point out any inaccuracy in my edits, and delete those if you find them. But do not revert under the guise that it “looks better”, but by doing so you delete so much relevant information that should not be omitted.

Again, I cannot comprehend how you could agree (I you have indeed compared version) that it is better without the changes, when the article content conflicts from one part of the article to the other. Al-Andalus 11:49, 12 November 2005 (UTC). [reply]

From your own user page: "Try to avoid revert wars. Never violate 3RR. Be self-limiting in how many times you revert a page in a day. Try to get consensus on talk before reverting. If you do revert without prior discussion, explain why on talk." I have done this. Please do also comply by your own demands. I am the only one who has explained my reasons. I'm still awaiting yours and user Zero's. Once more, please point out to me the inaccuracy in my edits, and delete those if you find them. Al-Andalus 15:41, 12 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Disruptive apartheid editor

I wonder what the guy was trying to prove by posting a link to a picture of me? It's not like I try to make a secret of my identity or anything. I know for some editors it would be an invasion of privacy or intimidation or something of the sort; but geez, if I was skeered of that, I wouldn't put my real name and my background on my user page. At least he chose a nice picture of me! --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 20:22, 12 November 2005 (UTC) [reply]

Yuber

would you mind helping out again? a reverter named Yuber does nothing but revert everything i do! I put in information with proper sources but he just reverts and reverts! John McW 01:05, 13 November 2005 (UTC) [reply]

Please don't listen to this guy. The section was worked on by several editors and he just wants to put his version in against consensus. Yuber(talk) 01:07, 13 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Request for undeletion

I have been asked to provide the details of our conversation of March 2005. Accordingly, please undelete what is under this Deletion link to some non-controversial place, such as to the as yet unconstructed page User_talk:Rednblu/Human. Thank you. Rednblu | Talk 01:34, 13 November 2005 (UTC) [reply]

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There is need to have the discussion on that page available because the discussion on that page is integral to the official proceedings of the Talk:Human page as you can see at this link. The discussion on that page was moved from Talk:Human/Rednblu, is that not so? Rednblu | Talk 03:58, 13 November 2005 (UTC) [reply]

Sorry, don't know what you mean by "the official proceedings of the Talk:Human page." The link you gave me was back in March. This is just a user subpage of mine that wasn't needed. SlimVirgin (talk) 04:06, 13 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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I wouldn't expect you to remember our discussions. Many people have written to me asserting that what is on that page is needed to assess the User:Rednblu account. That whole deleted page was moved from the Talk:Human discussion, is that not so? Perhaps if you could restore that page just temporarily to some page under my account we could both look at it and perhaps then delete it again. What could be the harm in that? Rednblu | Talk 04:21, 13 November 2005 (UTC) [reply]


I can't keep going back and forth about this. The page isn't needed for anything, and how could anyone know that it's "needed to assess" the account (whatever that means) given that it's deleted? Whatever's going on, I'd prefer not to be involved. SlimVirgin (talk) 04:30, 13 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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Do you have time to restore that deleted page to some page under my account? Sorry to trouble you. I am not sure what you meant when you wrote "there is a problem regarding the Rednblu user account." But we don't have to ever figure that one out.  :) Let's move forward. You created the page Talk:Human/Rednblu where we had that March 2005 discussion, then you moved that discussion to User_talk:SlimVirgin/Rednblu, and then the page disappeared. Isn't that exactly what happened? Many people write to me saying that they have to see our discussion that was on that deleted page. My only interest is to have our discussion available for them since they ask for it. If what they tell me is right, and that is how I remember it also, this deleted page is not just your thoughts and cogitations. Many other people were part of those discussions also; so the discussions are a proper part of Wikipedia proceedings. Maybe you don't want that page restored under your account? Fine. Then please restore that page under my account, thank you. Sorry to trouble you, but we need that discussion undeleted. And I cannot do it myself. So I would appreciate your help here. Thanks. Rednblu | Talk 05:07, 13 November 2005 (UTC) [reply]

Hello Slim! I was wondering if you'd be interested in joining the Mentorship Committee... Just read the page for some details on who we are and what we do.

P.S. when ya gonna join the medcom? :P

Redwolf24 (talk) 03:28, 13 November 2005 (UTC) [reply]

Crazy changes by Gilgamesh

Unfortunately, User:Gilgamesh is now imposing his own views by changing the transliterated Hebrew names of articles with redirects to unreadable Hebrew names and fonts, as if his criteria are the only ones to reckon with, when there are in fact several. My computer, as I am sure many others' as well, does not pick up his type of fonts, and thus he is messing up articles such as Safed, Hadera, Holon, Afula, Arad, Israel and many others defacing them and making them unreadable on the web. He is going to DESTROY the normal usage of Wikipedia's Hebrew transliterations to satisfy his own needs without there being any consensus. Common usages are being thrown out in favor of obscure and pedantic academic usages familiar to only a handful of unkown academics. He should be called upon to stop BEFORE he rushes to do further damage without any consensus being reached. All his changes should therefore be reverted. See all his recent contributions via: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Gilgamesh I thank you for your interest, and urge all readers here to act. IZAK 03:33, 13 November 2005 (UTC) [reply]

Hebrew naming conventions

At the present time there is a serious discussion taking place, aiming at some consensus that will result in "official" Wikipedia guidelines about how Hebrew should be used and written in Wikipedia articles. Because of your past or ongoing interest in these type of articles with Hebrew words in them, your attention is called to Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Hebrew) [3] TO MAKE YOUR VIEWS KNOWN AND TO ADD TO THE DISCUSSION BEFORE THE "DOORS ARE SHUT" PLEASE SEE THE RELATED DISCUSSION PAGE AT Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (Hebrew) [4] Thank you! IZAK 03:35, 13 November 2005 (UTC) [reply]