Talk:Meat Loaf

Throat condition

The part about Meat Loaf's throat condition being "mental" is false. He has an autographed photo hanging in the office of the ear nose & throat doctor who performed the operation of his throat-- I would know, because he was my doctor too. His name is Dr. Lane, and he's located in Bridgeport, CT- Just a few cities over from Loaf's home in Redding.

films and albums lists

Any reason why the films and albums list in different directions?

• I am going to switch films. This is an arbitrary choice. Osmodiar 14:11, 30 May 2005 (UTC)

external links, official site

Changed and updated external links. MeatLoaf.net is now Meat Loaf's official website.

Someone needs to take a look at reference #8 (Meatloaf goes through hell again) - the link is broken and CNN's search engine is denying all knowledge. 71.38.149.203 04:25, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

age

1951???

isn't he much older?

• Mr Loaf can't seem to decide exactly how old he is. He said in his book that he was born in 1947 but has since admitted that he was lying and that he was actually born in 1951. When questioned about this during a 2003 newspaper interview [1] he showed his passport to the interviewer which confirmed the 1951 date. However, I've heard that birth records show that he WAS born in 1947(!). Crisso 17:41, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

• i believe it was 1951 because of the passport

I agree: I think it should read 1951 unless Crisso can provide the reference to justify the 1947 date. I believe Mr. Loaf would do a double lie but right now I think the passport is the strongest evidence.

• Many credible sources, including IMDB and Meat Loaf's own autobiography, list his birthdate as 1947. He stated in an interview that it is actually 1951, but he did not offer any proof (he has been known to exaggerate). He graduated from Thomas Jefferson High School in 1965, according to the class of '65 official website [2]. Most students graduate from high school at the age of 18. Unless someone can prove that he graduated four years early, this supports using the date of 1947. Additionally, according to many sources, including the Biography Channel[3], Meat Loaf ignored a draft notice in 1967. If he was born in 1951, then he would have only been 16 and couldn't have received a draft notice. All hard evidence points to 1947, so unless Meat Loaf gives us proof otherwise (like actually showing us the passport or drivers license he mentioned), it should stay at 1947. bellminer (talk) 22:59, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

• One more thing: On the Meat Loaf UK Fan Club (MLUKFC) website, Meat Loaf's user profile lists 1947. bellminer (talk) 23:12, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

As the interviewer in the article mentioned above states, "it doesn't quite erase the sentence "I was born on September 27 1947", which comes from his own 1999 autobiography. I suppose the legal document takes precedent." It would seem that although he was born in 1947 thanks to the evidence presented above, he is legally known to have been born in 1951. I think this discussion is rather interesting, and maybe the debate deserves mention in the article? It's very interesting in my opinion. --Poet  Talk  05:09, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Inconsistencies

"the extremely successful second album..."

"best-selling debut album of all time..."

Anyone care to reconcile these two statements?

What about these two -- "During a show in Ottawa, Meat Loaf fell off the stage and broke his leg. The injury caused the cancellation of the rest of the tour."

"Fell off the stage and broke his leg during a concert at Toronto in 1978 - he finished the tour in a wheelchair."

So...he broke his leg twice in the 1970s, in two different Canadian cities, on tour? Right...

meatloaf was born in 1947 u dinilo! x lol love all u meatloaf fans

POV

"Dellentash and Sonenberg re-edited the movie and it turned out terrible." Hardly a neutral statement. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure it was terrible....

"In 1981, Leslie gave birth to Amanda Aday, now a television actress. Also in 1981, Meat Loaf changed managers after finding out that Dellentash and Sonenberg were stealing his money." This makes it sound like they were rifling his wallet. And Shouldn't we cite some sort of evidence when making that kind of accusation? TheMadBaron 15:15, 17 September 2005 (UTC)

I wrote those statements and they are POV - POV of Meat Loaf. If you look in the references section you will see that his autobiography is listed. If the man starring in the movie calls it terrible, I would probably agree. Alos, the part about Dellentash and Sonenberg stealing his money was also in his book. He could be lying, but until somebody say something different, I think they ought to be left, even if noted as coming from Meat Loaf himself. Gorrister 12:17, 19 September 2005 (UTC)

I agree they should be left, but in order for the article to remain neutral, they should be attributed to Meat Loaf. Direct quotes from the autobiography might help. Is this possible? TheMadBaron 02:48, 20 September 2005 (UTC)

The abbreviation is NPOV (neutral point of view). Quotes from Meat Loaf's own autobiography may not neccessarily be neutral. A more neutral statement would be something like "... Meat Loaf changed managers after suspicion arose that Dellentash and Sonenberg were embezzeling money."

Pearl Aday is up for deletion!

Just a heads up that Pearl Aday has been nominated for deletion. Go there and show you support! Does anyone have a genuine fair use photo of her: i.e. a genuine screenshot from a DVD (not a 'publicity photo'). The JPS 02:25, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

POV issues

I think this article is more or less on target when it comes to getting bio and discography information, but are definitely pockets where the article, particularly its word choice, reads like it's been written by an obvious fan, his publicist, or is taken from some autobiography he may have wrote. As someone who's familiar with the singer, but not a passionate fan, it reads a little too affectionate for a encyclopedia article. I added the tag because I'm not as familiar with Meat Loaf and I thought someone who is may be able to clean it up without accidently removing relavent info Bobak 23:30, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Why don't you have a stab anyway, Bobak? You can't do any harm! If anything important is removed it'll be readded by someone with it on their watchlist. And you seem to be aware of which parts need revising. The JPS 00:50, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

I just read the article, and I strongly disagree with the statement at the top that claims the article "reads like an advertisement." It's not like the article idolizes Meat Loaf; at most, I would agree that the article's sections on Meat Loaf's current and future projects could be INTERPRETED as biased in Meat Loaf's favor, so if someone wants to change the wording, maybe that wouldn't be so bad. But the claim that the article as a whole reads like an advertisement is bizarre. By the way, my argument has nothing to do with any sort of Meat Loaf adulation on my part, I only know a couple of his songs. This is just my honest reaction to the article. I thought about simply removing the disclaimer, but I thought it would be more prudent to post my opinion instead, rather than tick anybody off. -- Minaker

I cleaned this up a bit and removed unnecessary detail (such as plot elements from Fight Club), POV writing and stupid detail (such as "he eventually got his voice back" Well, duh, he is not a mute!). Please do not revert, this article is way too long and is poorly written. It still needs much work and should be reorganized into different sections instead of being a meandering biography. This is not supposed to be a retelling of his biography filled with insignificant details. If we want to know every minute detail of Meat's life, then we will buy the book. DFS (talk) 09:46, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Hope people don't mind as I am a newbie

but I just wanted to dip my toe in gently and just correct one spelling mistake: 'succesful' (sic) and change one word 'greatest' to 'largest' to make the first paragraph a little more neutral GrantB 07:26, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

As another newbie, a very little known Meat Loaf album was released in the UK in 1979, presumabley in a late attempt to cash in on Bat's continued success. Called "Featuring Stoney and Meat Loaf" it was released on the Prodigal label (catno PDL 2010) and featured some of the songs from the original Stoney and Meat Loaf albums along with a couple of unreleased tracks. Bizarrely it was re-released in 1986 on the Tamla Motown label (catno ZL 72217) I have a copy of the Motown release and could scan in the sleeve and put in a track listing either here on in the Stoney and Meat Loaf album listing.

As a total wikipedia newbie, I am not sure which, if any, would be appropriate and am lookinf for advice. Fork me 22:39, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

• fork me all you have to do is make sure the information is reliable and make sure you don`t breake any rulesUser:Grandoldman 16:48, 14 April 2008 (UTC)]

A couple of days ago I've updated the Stoney & Meatloaf article, and now it also includes the details on the Featuring Stoney and Meatloaf album Evil Nickname 12:19, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Contradictory Information

I'd just like to point out that it appears as if Meat Loaf broke his leg twice in the year of 1978! In the main body of the article it says that he broke his leg whilst on tour in Ottawa and then cancelled the rest of the tour, however in the "Things You May Not Have Known" section it says that he broke his leg in Toronto and then finished the tour in a wheelchair!

More conradictory information is about "bat out of hell III" clashes with the jim Steinman's page; on Meat loaf's, it states that it will be worked on by Steinman , whereas on Steinman's page it states that it will not be worked on by him but that meat loaf would be working on this on his own, and that there is a legal battle ongoing for the rights of "bat out of hell". I believe the latter to be correct having heard a recent radio interview in which Meat loaf stated this.

No Mention of Films?

This article goes into great detail about his music career, but only briefly mentions one movie - Rocky Horror Picture Show. The guy's got 56 IMDB acting credits, surely something else merits a mention here?

Thank you, whoever added that.

I replaced the section listing his complete filmography with a smaller section discussing his tv and acting career. Since the article was allready longer then recomended under wikipedia guidelines, I felt it would be better if readers simply clicked on the IMDB link at the bottom to get the complete filmography. All we really need at this point is a paragraph that mentions a few of his more notable film and TV appearences. --Cab88 09:40, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Fair enough. Just seemed wierd that Fight Club, at the very least, was not mentionned, considering he had a much bigger part in that than in RHPS. -- Lurlock 02:43, 29 April 2006 (UTC) (Oh, those other two comments were me also, forgot to sign them. Oops.)

Damn, somebody got rid of it again. I realize there's an IMDB link, but saying you're not including information on the site because it exists elsewhere is a bit contradictory to the whole principle of the Wiki. Everything on this site exists elsewhere, or else it gets taken down for not having reliable source. If you're going to take down stuff just because there are other sites where people can get the information, then why not just delete the entire page and replace it with a link to www.allmusic.com or one of countless other sites that has this info? Eh, whatever. Don't care enough to make any more of a fuss about it than this. -- Lurlock 23:13, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Contradictions on Bat out of Hell III

I don't mean to cause any trouble by posting here, but I'd like to touch on the Bat out of Hell III topic. I've read the Meat Loaf, Jim Steinman, and Bat out of Hell III pages and have come to my own conclusions. I beleive, first of all, that none of this shall be known until Bat out of Hell III is actually released. But the conclusion I've made is that Steinman probably has nothing to do with it. Here is my reasoning: I've heard (not verified completely) that Meat Loaf announced the work-in-production of Bat out of Hell III at a somewhat recent concert. But, as stated 2 messages above, Steinman claims not to have any involvement in it. Now, personally, I'd beleive Steinman's word (it's hard to explain my thought process). Since no one really knows for sure — except Meat Loaf and Steinman themselves — perhaps we should, on all three pages, post that "it is beleived that..." or something of the sort related to the topic. That is, until it actually comes out. Basically my point is that if it is going to be on Wikipedia and no one knows for sure, it should be stated so. Thanks!

Real Name: Marvin or Michael? Or MEAT???

This article shows his real first name as Michael. An AP story today gives his real first name as Michael.[4] I'm not going to change the article, but I am going to create a redirect for "Michael Aday" to this article. --24.53.74.197 14:02, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

I was going to raise this point again as well. Several news articles note his first name as Marvin as well (quoting us?) but the references to the suit all say Michael. I'm trying to track down the filing; I assume we'll have to consider it authoritative... --Baylink 17:09, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure, but he was born Marvin Lee Aday but changed his name to Michael Aday when a Levi ad used his name and "fat" in the same sentence. I guess he was a little offended. Aaрон Кинни (t) 07:53, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Some sources say that he legally changed his name to Meat Loaf. Any cites either way? What does it say on his passport?

when meatloaf was younger his name was marvin lee addey but when he got older he changed his first name to michaelGrandoldman (talk) 15:40, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Copyright violations

Please do not copy and paste from other websites. It is copyright infringement. I've removed huge chunks taken directly from the IMDb. The JPS^{talk to me} 11:06, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

charlie manson encounter

i was searching meat loaf on youtube and came accross this video [5] in which meat loaf recalls picking up charlie manson who was hitch hiking. i wouldn't know where this would fit in, maybe trivia. i'm just putting the information here for anyone who wants to use it. ~~Patrick~~ 22:50, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Amazon tracklisting

According to the tracklisting, one of the tracks is "Bad For Good" - assuming this is a Jim Steinman contribution, woah - that song is old. V. old. It also mentions "It’s All Coming Back To Me Now" - another Jim Steinman song, previously recorded by Celine Dion - will be interesting to hear Meat Loaf's take on that. But hardly an album of new material is it... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.108.145.11 (talk • contribs)

Well, as far aas I see, only (Steinman, anyway) three of the 14 are covers, and these versions haven't been released before. Since a producer is involved, with a different "take", I think we can safely say it is original. The JPS^{talk to me} 11:42, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

According to BBC News today, seven of the tracks are Jim Steinman authored - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/5243252.stm

Controversy?

Throughout the article, there is much mention of "controversy" surrounding Bat out of Hell. I'm missing it. Can someone clarify or point out in the article how or why it was controversial? Thanks. Thorns Among Our Leaves 18:12, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

No idea. I've removed them. I imagine that it might refer to the difficulties in getting a deal? But hardly 'controversial'. The JPS^{talk to me} 19:54, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Vegeterianism

I just heard an interview with Meat Loaf on radio and I think he said he was a vegetarian from '81-92 but has since gone back to eating meat. Perhaps someone would like to confirm this and modify it in the Trivia section.

He referred to having been a vegetarian for about that number of years in a recent UK talk show. ArcInference 07:42, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

What's the eating a live lamb bit? Is that a serious drug-induced delusion he had, or is it vandalism?Mzmadmike (talk) 14:50, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

He was just shown on a clip of next weeks Gordon Ramsays F-word and referred to as a vegetarian. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Muleattack (talk • contribs) 21:13, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Scrap that, from the horses mouth he said he was vegetarian for 11 years but isn't anymore. Muleattack (talk) 20:43, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Bat 3 Leak

In the BOOH3 section, it mentions that the title track was leaked onto the Internet in May. Should it be mentioned that the album was leaked in September? Brooza 20:03, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Ted Nugent

Is it possible to add the Ted Nugent album Free For All to the article, since Meat Loaf sang some songs on it?

If I would know anymore about the album apart from which five songs mr. Loaf sang on, I would. Evil Nickname 20:14, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Discography

The discography now mentions the following albums: Live at the Bottom Line, Live in Cleveland and Hot as Hell. These are all bootlegs, and not official releases. Should those remain in the article? Evil Nickname 20:14, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

• Yes, for I posted them all and own them all. They are original and one-of-a-kind recordings with exclusove songs meat proforms and should be reconized as much as Live around the world is. Plus There's also Live at the Bottom Line 1985 also. This has live recordings of Jump'n the gun, Bad attitude, and Peice of the action! -- Mr.Mushnik 02:13, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

These recordings are not official releases, but Bootleg recordings. If you start to include those, I think you have to include them all. (And there are quite a few more than those you mention.) And beyond the tracklisting, there isn't a lot of useful information available about most bootlegs. Evil Nickname 08:46, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Vandalisim

I have noticed widespread vanalisim on this article, such as calling the Bat Out of Hell albums Bat out of my Ass and the like.

I would fix it myself, but it is so widespread that I think it would take a total revert to do. I'm not sure how to do it.

Could someone more knowlageable about such things do it?Luthien Minyatur 17:11, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

religion

Does anyone know if Meat has a religion or not ? I am assuming being from texas he was possble a baptist or some form christian sect. Please forgive my crap grammer for the record and thank you for your time.

Aday

How pronounce last two letters (AY) in the reality family name "Aday" in singer Meat Loaf. Like second and third letter in word "Day" or like second letter in word "Pit". —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 90.154.204.171 (talk) 18:41, 22 December 2006 (UTC).

New Year's Eve duet girl??

Does anybody know the girl Meat Loaf did the Duet with? I'm pretty sure she is perfect. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.191.20.136 (talk) 02:39, 2 January 2007 (UTC).

Van Morrison is the best known member of the NI band Them, but I don't believe that Van the man would ever have referred to the band as his, and it was certainly never called Van Morrison's Them at the time of their first two albums (as issued in the UK). 00:03, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Van Morrison's Them

Van Morrison is the best known member of the NI band Them, but I don't believe that Van the man would ever have referred to the band as his, and it was certainly never called Van Morrison's Them at the time of their first two albums (as issued in the UK). 00:05, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Origin of Meat Loaf??

His first girlfriend called him Meat in homage to Porky's? Why is that in there? He was going by Meat Loaf wayyy before then, i'm taking that out. Anybody who knows the real origin of his actual name, put it there. (The article says that he got the name Meat Loaf when his girlfriend called him Meat in homage to the 1982 teenage sex comedy Porky's)

I make no claim to expertise, but I believe Meat has given any number of versions as to how he came to have that name. One he's commonly given is that it was given to him by a high school football coach. I think there's enough uncertainty that only he would know, really. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by ArcInference (talk • contribs) 07:40, 11 May 2007 (UTC).

I believe he mentioned it on one of his DVD's...not too sure which one, I think it was the classic something or other, and yes, it was his football coach, according to that dvd.Taker04 (talk) 10:42, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

I've heard him give a different explanation of the name four or five different times on talk shows and in concert. They're all contradictory, but everyone says that they know how he got his name because they heard him tell it. I'll bet it's a childhood nickname that really doesn't have a cool story behind it, but he keeps people guessing about it.Hollielol (talk) 15:26, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

I was somewhat surprised to see that no mention of the origin of Meat Loaf's stage name is made in this article, and had to Google it instead. It strikes me that the name is unusual enough to warrant at least an attempt at an explanation on Wikipedia. I realise that there are several competing explanations out there, with some (e.g. the "high school coach" incident) being more commonly banded about than others, but just like is done in the Marx Brothers article, surely we could just list the most common theories? It would be better than no mention at all. Mixsynth (talk) 12:22, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

I also have heard him, in interviews, give three different "origins" of the nickname. The first I heard was back on the old David Brenner show. Meat said a friend had bet him he wouldn't put his head on a curb and let a VW Beetle run over it. When he did and won the bet, the friend said that he (Marvin) must have meat loaf for brains. And the name stuck. Or so he said that time. I also recall him saying that it was a nickname given to him by a rather abusive father based on his initials, ML, and his size. So until there is a "definitive" story, I think the best we can do is to say that he has given several different explinations of the origin of his nickname.Rhodesisland (talk) 11:54, 2 December 2009 (UTC)rhodesisland

Album Sales?

"Bat Out of Hell, the debut album which had been four years in the making, sold over 34 million copies, almost becoming more profitable than Michael Jackson's blockbuster Thriller, which sold 60 million copies."

How is that even close to Thriller? Danielsage98 08:43, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Because Thriller cost inordinately more to make. And I sincerely have issues with the concept of Thriller having sold 104 million copies, that must be a typo. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 122.104.67.249 (talk) 00:52, August 22, 2007 (UTC)

I came here because as of right now, it says Bat Out Of Hell, the debut album which had been four years in the making, sold over 37 million copies, nearly as profitable as Michael Jackson's blockbuster Thriller, which sold 104 million copies.. That's just silly. Yes, selling 37 million copies is an AWESOME accomplishment, but we don't need the Michael Jackson part...I'm going to remove it --sumnjim ^{talk with me·changes} 15:16, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

First On Stage Autograph

I went to the show in Ottawa and Meat Loaf signed what he said was the first and only On-Stage autograph of his career. Maybe we mention this is the trivia section? Kratos Aurion 02:01, 17 March 2007 (GMT -5)

1947 or 1948?

When is he born? Here it says that he is born in 1948. http://rateyourmusic.com/artist/meat_loaf Could somebody give me the answer please?

"Early life" contradictions

"In 1967, after seeing his mother hospitalized and her health deteriorating, Marvin stole his dad's credit card and moved to Los Angeles, where he became a bouncer at a teenage nightclub."

"In his autobiography, Marvin claims that shortly after his mother died, his father, in a drunken rage, tried to kill him with a knife, and that he barely managed to escape after they had a bad fight."

Make your mind up...did he move to Los Angeles when his mother's health was deteriorating or shortly after she died and his dad attacked him? If he moved to Los Angeles then came back, perhaps this should be mentioned as well...although if he became a bouncer I would have thought he planned to stay permanently. Or if these events are not coincidental and his dad came to LA and did it BECAUSE he stole the credit card, perhaps that should be included in the passage. The very fact that I've given 2 different possibilities (and could probably think up many more) shows that leaving out important information and allowing contradiction is going to lead to assumptions about what actually happened :-) SmUX 23:04, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

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Early Musical Career paragraph contains partial sentences and confusing grammar, apparently as a result of deletions. There are strange fragments of topics, such as "Hair" that are never fully explained.

Shrubman 14:52, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

live performances

dear sir, as you have been around a long time now and have no end of a fan base, i have been a personnal fan for quite a number of years myself. i have recently been to one of your concerts in Glasgow, uk, and i must say now i feel it is time for you to stop kidding the public and taking money from them under false pretences. it is, without a doubt, the worst concert i have ever been to and your live voice is a total disgrace, there were people walking out at all stages of the show and i and my partner did the same after what can only be describes as 'awful'. i stayed for as long as i did because of the price of the ticket and did not get value for money at all. i have seen many many concerts and will continue to do so, but i expect value for money and not someone who does not in any way entertain, cannot sing and is a total sham. i also left to maintain the belief that somewhere you had a voice and want to keep the vision of that with you on disc from now on, although you will stay with me forever and that concert will go down as the worst i have ever seen.

many thanks

Early musical career and Hair

The "Stoney & Meatloaf" section refers several times to Meat Loaf performing in Hair, but there's no other mention about it in the article. Maybe it should be covered as well. Sami 08:45, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Slang

What does …"hit a big note and blew the board dash" mean?Lestrade 19:14, 23 September 2007 (UTC)Lestrade

Searching Google for this phrase only turns up three pages which appear to be copies of this entry. Unless someone can source this, I'd say it should be removed as original research, by which i mean, someone making shit up.

It should also be noted that while recording studios have a "board," said board does not have a "dash" and one does not "blow" it.

How to avoid military service

When his draft notice arrived two years later, he ignored it. Problem solved. Simple. If only millions of others knew about this easy way out of service. If so, the U.S. would quickly have had no military at all, opening the doors to any foreign aggressor. What's the real story with Meat Loaf's avoidance of military service? It can't be as uncomplicated as it is depicted in the article. If you ignore the U.S. government, does it go away?Lestrade 01:17, 24 September 2007 (UTC)Lestrade

Technically, he could've been arrested and charged with a Federal crime. But I have a feeling they either couldn't find him or it required too much effort TO find him. These days, military enlistment is voluntary - so your sarcastic remarks make absolutely no sense. Cheers...SkittlzAnKomboz (talk) 22:44, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Cheated death

Can we get rid of the paragraph about cheating death in the Personal Life section, it's stupid, uninteresting and ridiculous speculation on the uneventful: 'his plane ALMOST had to make an emergency landing...'. 'Struck by WPS'!! despite the fact that 3% of the population have it, mostly without any ill effect and it causes death only 0.06% of the time in sufferers. I expect he was probably a bit careless crossing the road one time and ALMOST got hit, or twisted has his ankle whilst on occasion, or ate a dodgy burger and got nasty food poisoning (maybe thats why he went veggi) but who hasn't?

Can we not have some interesting stuff in this section like who are all these girls he writes his songs about. Also was he ever married? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.67.62.56 (talk) 15:10, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Last concert

Ok my friend who lives in Newcastle went to th concert and she told me his exact words.

"Newcastle, thank you very much. I want you to enjoy this Paradise, Bat out of Hell, Anything for Love, Mercury Blues and Gimme Shelter because they may be the last of my fucking life." then after the start of Paradise he said "No, I can't. That's it. No more. Thank you Newcastle for 30 wonderful years. I take off my jacket (which he did, and dropped it on the stage), Say again thank you, and that's all there is is. Goodbye." Tyler Warren ^{(talk/contribs)} 00:53, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Seems valid: http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/story/0,23663,22700807-10388,00.html - arkenstone 00:50, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

The exact words aren't too far away from that: they are now on Wikinews. He said the next day that he was feeling really bad at the time, but he was continuing. The JPS^{talk to me} 10:53, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

meatloafs address

hiya everyone can someone tell me the address to send letters to meatloaf but not by internet

Sony Ordered to Pay $5M in Logo Dispute - Steve Popovich

Sony Ordered to Pay $5M in Logo Dispute

Sony Music must pay the founder of a small record company $5 million for failing to put his company's logo on reissues of Meat Loaf's "Bat Out of Hell" album, a federal appeals court ruled.

Steve Popovich, 65, who started Cleveland International Records in 1977 and soon afterward signed the chubby singer named Marvin Lee Aday, persuaded Epic Records to release the wildly successful album.

Epic was owned at the time by CBS. Sony, which bought out CBS Records, paid $6.7 million to Popovich and his former partners in 1998 to settle a lawsuit over royalties from the album.

The settlement required Sony to place the Cleveland International logo on future Meat Loaf albums but Sony did not add the logo to "Bat Out of Hell" for more than a year.

In a 2-1 decision Wednesday, a panel of the 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Cincinnati upheld a federal jury's decision in 2005 awarding Popovich an extra $5 million in damages.

"I worked too hard for them and made them too much money to get robbed now, in the autumn of my life," he said.

Cleveland International's roster also includes singer/songwriter David Allan Coe and an array of polka artists including Grammy winners Brave Combo and the late Frankie Yankovic.

A call Thursday to Sony Music in New York was answered with a message that the offices were closed until Monday.

Sony has claimed that the logo omission was a mistake that later was corrected. In court documents, Sony also accused Popovich of trying to get money out of the company by trumping up the logo agreement.

"Bat Out of Hell," operatic in tone, but guitar rock through and through, has sold more than 30 million copies worldwide, according to court records.

Vandals

I removed the statements, "Everyone else hated the movie, especially the little girls that he kissed during his concert. He is a douche." Let's just say they lacked citation. (Smontg2 (talk) 02:43, 13 March 2008 (UTC))

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Saxophonist?

The saxophone is listed as one of his learned instruments. Yet, I've never seen Meat Loaf play a sax, and any sax bits on his albums or in his live shows are all played by someone else. The only thing I know of that might support this was his appearance in Rock Horror Picture Show where he seemly play a sax solo, however the sax was missing a reed and ligature, thus making it unplayable, he also wasn't holding it correctly. Anyways, unless someone can offer some info on this I'm going to remove it. 75.91.30.147 (talk) 16:41, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Blew the board dash?

The following passage, under "Early Music Career", makes no sense to me: "During the recording of their first song, Meat Loaf hit a big note and blew the board dash..."

Could this be re-worded so it actually makes some sense? Maybe if there were any citations in the entire section, I could have figured it out for myself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.58.248.33 (talk) 15:43, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

It still doesn't make sense. I've recorded a demo for a record and installed a bunch of studios, not sure if that makes me an 'expert' but you can not blow a fuse by going too high. You *might* be able to do it by doing something too loud, but pitch really doesn't enter in to it.

77.165.209.212 (talk) 02:58, 15 February 2010 (UTC) Jacques Mattheij

Meatloaf in Rocky Horror Picture Show

The article says he Plays both Eddie and Dr. Scott... this is not accurate... in the credits and if you look at IMDB, Jonathan Adams plays Dr. Everett Scott. Just thought I would point this out...

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Never left the music charts

"especially the UK, where he ranks 23rd for number of weeks overall spent on the charts, and is one of only two artists with an album never to have left the music charts."

I think this sentence needs clarified. Surely, every artist who is currently in the charts has an album which has never left... After how many weeks in the chart does a song qualify? Who is the other artist? Is this actually true because on the Meat Loaf discography page it says UK Bat out of hell #9; 476 weeks --81.103.40.178 (talk) 12:37, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Meat Loaf

Meat Loaf !

Marvin Aday: the actores got last year their new projects: reading in the sites of: Rachel Skarsten: Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: 12:59: April 13, 2008: written: Robert De Niro: Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: 01:00: April 6, 2008: until to: camera to: Marvin Aday: or: Meat Loaf: better: as actor name is your born name: singing is acting: name: Marvin Aday: take my mission: Meat Loaf: the projects at the same time to your own projects: wishing you the best to the oscar and grammy awards: good luck ! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.6.115.242 (talk) 21:04, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Casa de Carne track list

Does anyone know what the track list of the "Casa de Carne" tour of Meat Loaf would be? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.65.0.153 (talk) 08:03, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Karla DeVito

How is it that this article has no mention of Karla DeVito, who sang with Meat Loaf on the Bat Out of Hell tour? She sang and performed the female part in the famous video of "Paradise By The Dashboard Light"

Here is her Wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karla_DeVito —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.15.120.253 (talk) 09:33, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

From your link to Karla's page: "She subsequently became a backup singer for Meat Loaf, supporting the Bat out of Hell tour (and also performed lip sync to Ellen Foley's vocals in the supporting music videos) (bolding mine). She was only the video perfomer. While she may have sang it in concert with the Loafer, she did not sing it in the video. That was Ellen. Manway (talk) 18:59, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Album charts

especially the UK, where he ranks 23rd for number of weeks overall spent on the charts, and is one of only two artists with an album never to have left the music charts.

What's this? Never to have left the album charts? He hasn't spent a single week on the UK album charts in the last 18 months. By the way, I left a note on the Meat Loaf discography page due to a lot of vandalism recently so that all the info is a mess of inconsistencies.--Tuzapicabit (talk) 02:46, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

his name is robert paulsen...

now i'll admit it's been a while since I saw fight club, but I thought a/ the name was spelt PaulsEn not PaulsOn, and b/ one of the important points in the story was that his first appearance was at a testicular cancer support group scene... i.e. it's a combination of the drugs and losing his 'nads (or possibly just the latter and overeating from depression) that cause the, ahem, "bitchtits". Anyone able to back this up? 77.102.101.220 (talk) 23:04, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Monster is Loose w/ Patti Russo

"Meat Loaf liked James Michael so much that he asked him to write a few songs on his 2006 album Bat out of Hell III: The Monster Is Loose. The title track was again a duet with Patti Russo who would also duet on Bat III."

The title track is not a duet. Patti Russo appears on the song "What About Love." 12.162.122.6 (talk) 14:43, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

The Very Best of Meat Loaf

In the section "The Very Best of Meat Loaf", the two paragraphs duplicate sentences. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.206.122.6 (talk) 01:05, 28 December 2009 (UTC)