Talk:Los Angeles

Census report Los Angeles may have Latino majority

A new census release has estimated Los Angeles to have over 50% Latino population, the first time since 1860 for the city's Latino population to outnumber the other ethnic groups. This was long predicted since the 1920's, but I recall a National Geographic magazine article of Los Angeles (January 1979) wrote comments to sure be deemed "un-PC or xenophobic" about Los Angeles (the city, county or area? non-specified) will develop a Hispanic majority or have mostly Spanish surnamed people (the only major city in the mainland US except Puerto Rico) before the year 2000 and being compared to "Another Quebec, the province of Canada where today French is the official language". I thought the title goes to the border town of El Paso, Texas with over 3/4 of the city and 2/3 of the county are Latino. I also read the magazine's interview with then L.A. city councilman Alberto Juarez predicted at least three (turns out to be five) Spanish-speaking council members and a mayor of Hispanic origin (also came true) will head Los Angeles in the first decade of the 21st century was correct. + 71.102.3.86 (talk) 10:01, 22 September 2009

LA weather

Highest average high for LA is 76.6 F? How can this possibly be true???

Wilsonbond (talk) 05:15, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Thats the average high apperently, I will do research. House1090 (talk) 05:17, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Often, the official weather figures are measured at a city's airport. In the case of L.A., that may mean a high of 10 or 15 degrees lower than downtown, and 15 to 20 degrees lower than the SF Valley. Unfortunately, the source doesn't specificy where they are measuring.[1]   Will Beback  talk  05:56, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Full Name of Los Angeles

Los Angeles is short for "La Ciudad de la Reina de los Angeles." That means "The City of the Queen of the Angels." Therefore, its nickname "the city of angels" is wrong. Not many people seem to know that.75.135.76.200 (talk) 03:19, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

It's a nickname. How can it be right or wrong? Just a name that someone came up with. Also if it is the city of the Queen of the angels, which is most presumably an angel, wouldn't it be correct? ;). SoCal L.A. (talk) 04:42, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

No, the official name of the city is "City of Los Angeles". Centuries ago, when a small town was founded on the site, its name was El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora la Reina de los Angeles del Río de Porciúncula. That formal name was not applied the city when it incorporated. A nickname need not be directly related to a name. "New York" does not mean "Big Apple" in Dutch, for example.   Will Beback  talk  22:29, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

There are 26 sister cities listed, not 25

93.172.116.251 (talk) 20:50, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for catching that. It turns out the Manchester is a "friendship city" rather than a sister city. While researching that I found that London has the same status, so we're now up-to-date with these relationships. For the moment, at least.   Will Beback  talk  22:52, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

I spoke too soon. I went to Sister Cities of Los Angeles, which says there are 25 sister cities. However their list contains 26 entries. The extra city being Łódź, Poland. Perhaps that's a new one since our article on that city doesn't mention L.A. either. I've written to the person in charge and asked about the discrepancy.   Will Beback  talk  23:03, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

This article is seriously messed up

It needs permanent semi-protection. I note, for example, that for almost two years there has been no mention of the city's legendary traffic jams since this article has been heavily vandalized. --Coolcaesar (talk) 17:59, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

I don't think it's missing due to vandalism, but maybe you can find the instance. See Transportation in Los Angeles#Rush hour. Every city has traffic jams.   Will Beback  talk  18:20, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

County seat

• Los Angeles City is a City, not a County seat. City of Los Angeles is within the County of Los Angeles, but County of Los Angeles is not in the City of Los Angeles. They are separate governmental, administrative bodies. Only one such combined body for both a city and county in California is San Francisco. Bband11th (talk) 15:24, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

No. Look at Wikipedia's own article on county seat, and here are some external sources: [2] [3] [4]. Think of it this way: the county seat is the "capital city" of a county. Canada isn't the capital of Canada, Ottawa is. Likewise, LA County isn't the county seat of LA County, Los Angeles is. --TorriTorri^{(Talk to me!)} 19:16, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

• You are wrong. County seat is "a term for an administrative center". The center can be located any place. It just happens when the L.A. County was set up, it was located in Los Angeles City. Many of the County agency headquarters are located outside the city of Los Angeles City limit, such as Dept. of Public Works, Fire Dept., Sheriff Dept., etc. The County seat article states "Counties administer state or provincial law at the local level as part of the decentralization of state/provincial authority. In many U.S. states, state government is further decentralized by dividing counties into townships, to provide local government services to residents of the county who do not live in incorporated cities or towns." It serves no purpose to call City of Los Angeles the county seat of Los Angeles County. City of Los Angeles is incorporated city and has its own government. And Counties have their own government and agencies, with the exception of San Francisco which is The state of California has one consolidated city-county, San Francisco. The city's board of supervisors govern both aspects, and there is both a city police department and a county sheriff, the latter mostly responsible for operating the county jail. Bband11th (talk) 20:52, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

The National Association of Counties recognizes the concept of "county seat" and identifies L.A. city as the seat of L.A. Co.[5]   Will Beback  talk  21:05, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Bband, Wikipedia policy says that one may not cite Wikipedia artices as a source for other Wikipedia articles, which is why I also provided external links. And if the links provided by Will and I are not acceptable, here's a quote from the official LA County website: "Soon thereafter Los Angeles, which had been designated as the official “seat” of County government, was incorporated as a city." --TorriTorri^{(Talk to me!)} 02:02, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Terminology

The articles for New York City, Chicago, Phoenix, and Philadelphia state they are the first, the third, the fifth, and the sixth most POPULOUS cities, respectively, in the United States; but the articles for Los Angeles and Houston state they are the second, and fourth LARGEST, respectively? It seems safe to assume that the word "populous" was used so there would be no confusion in the cities rank of their population vs the rank of their land area. New York City is not the nation's largest city in land area, and Chicago is not the third largest in land area, ect. They do, however, hold those ranks population-wise as their articles state. Therefore, it seems the Los Angeles and Houston articles should state they are the second, and fourth most "populous" cities, respectively; not second and fourth "largest" if the intent was to not allow this confusion. After all, the nation's largest city is Anchorage; but not its most populous. If it were me, I would prefer to use the word largest when referring to population, but they does not seem to be the way most of the cities articles read. Therefore, the Los Angeles and Houston articles should be changed to "populous' in the opening remarks to keep it consistent. Or at the very least, just use "largest" for all the other cities articles to keep it consistent with Los Angeles' and Houston's articles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.192.176.30 (talk) 03:06, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Köppen climate classification

Currently the article says: Los Angeles has a Mediterranean climate or Dry-Summer Subtropical (Köppen climate classification Csb on the coast, Csa inland), and receives just enough annual precipitation to avoid Köppen's BSh (warm semi-arid climate) classification. But according to Köppen climate classification the threshold for group B climates is 20 x 17.2 + 0 = 344 mm and the annual precipitation in Los Angeles is 305 mm (below the limit). The climate should be B* or I'm not calculating correctly? --Nk (talk) 17:13, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Los Angeles is an Alpha World City (-), not a Beta (+).

Los Angeles is ranked an Alpha World City (-) according to these charts: http://www.lboro.ac.uk/gawc/world2008c.html and http://www.lboro.ac.uk/gawc/world2008t.html. Please update the Los Angeles main page in the "Economy" section of this article (to indicate that LA is an Alpha World City). This information should also be added to the introduction of the article to indicate that LA is an Alpha World City - simply saying it is a "world center" doesn't really indicate the stature of LA, especially in relation to American peers NYC and Chicago, which both have their Alpha status mentioned in the introduction to their Wikipedia pages.