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I could easily fix these myself but I'd also like to see additional close reading of this article. [[User:Shii|Shii]] [[user_talk:Shii|(tock)]] 21:39, 25 June 2010 (UTC) |
I could easily fix these myself but I'd also like to see additional close reading of this article. [[User:Shii|Shii]] [[user_talk:Shii|(tock)]] 21:39, 25 June 2010 (UTC) |
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I'm surprised this guy hasn't sued wikipedia yet, this article is full of hatred for this guy specially in the criticism part. What has the web come to when nobody can escape the noises and barks of wikipedia editors and wikipedia itself. |
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Nick Griffin
The BNP's Nick Griffin was at a Texan meeting with the ex-KKK boss David Duke [[1]]. 86.29.134.225 (talk) 03:01, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
Adultery section
I have removed the adultery section again, since it is irrelevant to Duke's notability (or notoriety) and violates WP:BLP. Specifically,
- Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a tabloid paper; it is not our job to be sensationalist, or to be the primary vehicle for the spread of titillating claims about people's lives.
and also
- It is not Wikipedia's purpose to be sensationalist, or to be the primary vehicle for the spread of titillating claims about people's lives. Biographies of living persons must be written conservatively, with regard for the subject's privacy.
I just see no good reason for discussing Duke's marital infidelities, whether well-sourced or not. Phiwum (talk) 15:08, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
- Please, if you're going to revert the deletion, let's discuss it here. I can certainly imagine that persons of good will may disagree with my assessment, but we should at least talk it over and find the consensus. Phiwum (talk) 15:53, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
In Popular Culture
Many biographies on Wikipedia (for example, Anita Bryant's and Pat Buchanan's) have sections describing the subject's notoriety in popular culture. Should there be one in this article, too? David Duke has been referenced and satirized quite a few times in the media; for example, Doonesbury depicted him as a swastika, while John Mayer compared his own penis to Duke. If no one has any objections, I will soon add a short section detailing this. Stonemason89 (talk) 15:33, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
- With any material like that it's probably important to have a secondary source to both show that we're correctly identifying this Duke as the subject of the satire (as opposed to other people named "Duke" who might appear in Doonesbury) and that the satire is notable. And such sections should be kept short. Will Beback talk 16:59, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
- May I suggest, rather than in an unsorted trivia section, any popular culture references noteworthy enough to be added to the article should be placed in appropriate sections? For example, the Doonesbury depiction could easily be placed under the heading of the political campaign which inspired it. Anita Bryant's article does contain an unsorted "cultural references" section, but Pat Buchanan's does not. Regards, ClovisPt (talk) 17:00, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, it's better to avoid "popular culture" sections when the material can be better integrated into the article. Will Beback talk 17:06, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
Criticism of Judaism
NatDemUK added this article to [[Category: Criticism of Judaism]]; I removed it because I don't think Duke's views constitute legitimate "criticism" of Judaism, any more than Fred Phelps' views would constitute legitimate "criticism" of homosexuality; both Duke and Phelps seem to be motivated by hate, not "criticism". Is there even a need for [[Category: Criticism of Judaism]] at all, given that that category only has 3 articles in it (was 4 until I removed this article from it)? Stonemason89 (talk) 19:05, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
- No, no, Fred Phelps screams hatred to sodomites all the time, David Duke does not do anything like that. David Duke only criticises pro-Zionism in the US government.
Actually David Duke is criticising the pro-Jewish government and how Judaism holds hateful celebrations such as Hanukah and Purim. Perhaps you should look at his YouTube channel http://www.youtube.com/drdduke —Preceding unsigned comment added by NatDemUK (talk • contribs) 06:55, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
- Since when have Hanukkah and Purim been "hateful"? Stonemason89 (talk) 01:38, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
- Watch his videos and find out. Since European-Americans are not allowed to celebrate George Washington Day because that is seen as "hateful", Purim and Hanukkah celebrate Jewish supremacy over Gentiles.
Anyone who has listened to Dr David Dukes commentaries on Judaism can tell you he is well versed in the Jewish religion and thoroughly intellectual in his commentaries about Judaism. He is highly biased and selective in his discussion of Judaism and it's literature. But to compare Dr Duke with Fred Phellps is truly rediculious. Dr Dukes ranks with William F Buckly and Malcomb Muggeridge, surly not with Fred Phellps.Johnwrd (talk) 02:42, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
- Well, except for maybe the racism and bigotry part, which Buckley was the conservative movement's bulwark against; it's a shame there seem to be no major voices in the modern movement with such integrity and such influence. --jpgordon::==( o ) 14:16, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
- Why don't you say that Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens are motivated by hate? They are always ranting about the dangers of religion. Christopher Hitchens said to an audience to treat religious people with bigotry and hatred.
- DAVID DUKE IS MY HERO..!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.71.38.94 (talk) 02:27, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
well finally
finally Wikipedia recognizes this man as Dr. David Duke —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.142.255.231 (talk) 03:38, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
what a shock. it was removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.142.255.231 (talk) 23:54, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
NPOV: weasely white nationalism
As well as being overwritten, this article downplays Duke's repugnant racism with weasel wording.
Examples:
- Duke describes himself as a racial realist, asserting that "all people have a basic human right to preserve their own heritage."[5] He speaks in favor of voluntary racial segregation and white separatism.
- This is whitewashing of views printed elsewhere.
- Beth Rickey ... began to follow Duke to record his speeches and expose what she saw as instances of racist and neo-Nazi remarks.
- The citation demonstrates unambiguous racism.
- He was also endorsed by James Meredith, black civil rights figure.
- And? Why is this relevant? No context is given.
- [the] NAACP became outraged when it discovered that...
- As if this is not inherently outrageous.
I could easily fix these myself but I'd also like to see additional close reading of this article. Shii (tock) 21:39, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
Sue Wikipeida
I'm surprised this guy hasn't sued wikipedia yet, this article is full of hatred for this guy specially in the criticism part. What has the web come to when nobody can escape the noises and barks of wikipedia editors and wikipedia itself.
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