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[[Zayd ibn Harithah]] was at one time the adopted son with the name zaya ibn muhammed. but verses from the quran were revealed to the prophet Annulling adoption so he retained the name zayd ibn harithah. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Determom|Determom]] ([[User talk:Determom|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Determom|contribs]]) 11:49, 10 October 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
[[Zayd ibn Harithah]] was at one time the adopted son with the name zaya ibn muhammed. but verses from the quran were revealed to the prophet Annulling adoption so he retained the name zayd ibn harithah. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Determom|Determom]] ([[User talk:Determom|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Determom|contribs]]) 11:49, 10 October 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Significance of the last sentence in the first paragraph (as listed below)? == |
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"She narrated 2210 hadiths out of which 316 hadiths are mentioned in both Sahih al-Bukhari and Sahih Muslim." This statement, which is found at the end of the first paragraph, seems to leave the reader hanging (especially since this apparent fact is not referred to again in the body of the article). I assume there is''' some''' significance to the 316 hadiths being in both of these books, but an explanation of that significance (hopefully as apolitical as possible) might be helpful for the reader. Since both of these "Sahih" sources are accepted as Sunni hadiths, this would seem to have little significance for Shiites, however. For example, I just read about the Shia "hadiths" (in the article on "The Four Books"). Are any of Aisha's hadiths (or any references to her-- either positive '''or''' negative) in these "Shia approved" writings? If so, THAT might be of significance.... |
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I don't know the answer to this question, so I pose it to those Wikipediaists who know more about her than I do.... [[Special:Contributions/69.86.204.233|69.86.204.233]] ([[User talk:69.86.204.233|talk]]) 18:48, 31 October 2010 (UTC) |
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Aisha as "last wife" of Muhammad
i'm certainly no expert on Islam or the life of the Prophet, but my understanding is that the Prophet married Aisha as the third of his wives ten wives.
and that he was still married to several wives when he died.
so i don't understand, assuming that i'm right in remembering what i've read, how Aisha was his "last wife."
could it be that someone meant to say that she was his youngest wife? my understanding is that she was just 18 when the Prophet died.
could it have been meant that she was the last of his wives to die? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.19.29.203 (talk) 15:17, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
Done Thanks for pointing that out, I have no idea how it slipped in, but it's clearly incorrect. Doc Tropics 20:59, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Still more OR and such
Anyone else find these edits particularly troubling? Seems to reek of original research. Also, I have a feeling Helloharry.sim (talk · contribs) is 81.159.239.99 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) who signed up after I issued a final warning. I'm also thinking we need to get this page indef semiprot'd, as it seems all we get here is vandalistic edits. — HelloAnnyong (say whaaat?!) 22:48, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
- I would strongly support semi-protection as this page sees more IP vandalism than constructive edits. In fact, it's relatively stable except for vandalism. The edit by Helloharry is very typical of that activity and the account bears watching. Doc Tropics 00:11, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
Missing Cross Reference (Merge?) and Additional Comments on the Article in General
Please note that there is also a Wikipedia article titled "Shi'a view of Aisha" at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shi%27a_view_of_Aisha. Neither that article nor this one have cross-references to each other. I would suggest that these articles be cross referred (or even merged into one article). Since there are two differing points of view on Aisha and her life, if two articles are to be kept, the main article should have a Sunni bias (since the "Shi'a view" article already has a Shi'a bias in regards to Aisha and her life). For the sake of completeness, if a Shi'a apologist website such as www.answering-ansar.org is apparently suitable for use on Wikipedia (such as in the "Shi'a view of Aisha" article previously mentioned), then a Sunni apologist website such as www.ahielbayt.com would be equally suitable for citation on Wikipedia. (I wonder if this website has been referred to in any Wikipedia article or not.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.86.204.233 (talk) 21:16, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
- Not sure what you mean by cross-referenced but this article links to Shi'a view of Aisha and it links back here. Looking at Special:LinkSearch I would say that there is no links to ahielbayt.com. Its probably better that there are two articles rather than having one over large article. At the same time there is noting to stop you from expanding the Sunni view or creating a "Sunni view of Aisha". Also it is usually easier to find criticism of people rather than finding large amounts of information as to why others favour them. Enter CBW, waits for audience applause, not a sausage. 01:05, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
Abu bakr and Aisha didn't migrate to abyssinia ( Habasha )
Abu Bakr Al-siddique returned to Makkah aborting his migration to Habasha when Ibn ad-Dughunnah, a non-Muslim Bedouin chief offered him his protection to stay in Makkah and became his Wali. But when Abu Bakr’s crying while reading Quran outside his home became a dawa attraction, he told Abu Bakr that I did not give you protection to let you change the heart of my people. On that Abu Bakr let him revoke his protection, without compromising his right of dawa. he never attempted to migrate to abyssinia again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Determom (talk • contribs) 10:15, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
Islam abolished adoption
Zayd ibn Harithah was at one time the adopted son with the name zaya ibn muhammed. but verses from the quran were revealed to the prophet Annulling adoption so he retained the name zayd ibn harithah. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Determom (talk • contribs) 11:49, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
Significance of the last sentence in the first paragraph (as listed below)?
"She narrated 2210 hadiths out of which 316 hadiths are mentioned in both Sahih al-Bukhari and Sahih Muslim." This statement, which is found at the end of the first paragraph, seems to leave the reader hanging (especially since this apparent fact is not referred to again in the body of the article). I assume there is some significance to the 316 hadiths being in both of these books, but an explanation of that significance (hopefully as apolitical as possible) might be helpful for the reader. Since both of these "Sahih" sources are accepted as Sunni hadiths, this would seem to have little significance for Shiites, however. For example, I just read about the Shia "hadiths" (in the article on "The Four Books"). Are any of Aisha's hadiths (or any references to her-- either positive or negative) in these "Shia approved" writings? If so, THAT might be of significance....
I don't know the answer to this question, so I pose it to those Wikipediaists who know more about her than I do.... 69.86.204.233 (talk) 18:48, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
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