Template talk:Infobox rail

Help with "no image.png"

Currently about 80 articles that use the {{Infobox rail}} calls it with "logo_filename = no image.png". It seems it was used to fix a problem with a large empty logo area in the old versions of this template. This is not needed anymore. Although I have left the code in the template to handle this call. Do not remove that code from this template for now, or we will instead get large empty spaces on those pages that call with "no image.png". I would like that people help out and change "logo_filename = no image.png" to be "logo_filename =" in the railway articles that call this template. When that has been done we can remove the handling code in this template. I have already fixed 29 articles but would like help with the remaining 80.

So if you are in the mood, do this: Go to File:No image.png and scroll down to the "File links" section. Look for railway articles there. Most of the rail articles there use {{Infobox rail}}, {{Infobox Railroad}} or {{Infobox SG rail}}, if they do then change "logo_filename = no image.png" to be "logo_filename =".

Note! If the article is not using any of the boxes I just listed but instead are using a hardcoded infobox then do not remove the "no image.png". You can recognise that it is a hardcoded infobox by it using a wikitable instead and has style="something" stuff in the top. --David Göthberg (talk) 00:07, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Fixed the rest. I realised that if I turn off image loading in my web browser then I can load and edit pages way faster. (I got a rather old computer.) Why didn't I come up with that idea years ago? Darn.

--David Göthberg (talk) 09:27, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Request

{{editprotected}} Please remove "line" from the headings "predecessor line" and "successor line". Most railroads had more than one line. --NE2 11:43, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

 Done - I've changed how it is displayed while leaving how it works. ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 18:34, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Addition of Corporate Information to Template

{{editprotected}} As this infobox applies to railroads, which are corporations, I would like to request the following changes. This would allow us to capture pertinent corporate information and bring the infobox in line with {{Infobox company}} whilst allowing the preservation of railroad specific data that is obviously also of use.

Add the following data elements:

• Type
• Fate
• Key People
• Industry (could perhaps default to Rail transport?)
• Services
• Market Cap
• Revenue
• Operating Income
• Net Income
• Assets
• Equity
• Owner
• Number of Employees
• Parent
• Divisions
• Subsidiaries
• Footnotes

Modify the following data elements:

• Replace "hq_city" with the following:
  • foundation - Where company was established (initial headquarters)
  • location - Where company is headquartered now

Definitions for each data element can be found on {{Infobox_Company/doc}}. Discussion on these requested changes is of course more than welcome. - Richc80 (talk) 19:29, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

I'm curious where I'd find this information. Let's use the West Texas and Lubbock Railway and Western Rail Road as examples. --NE2 21:48, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

If you can't find it don't worry - the idea is (I think) that if the data can be got then the info box supports it.

Some companies do publish more corporate data than others - in the UK the local library can usually help you find out this information from a business directory - If those companies you mention are local to you I'd imagine you can get similar data from a similar source.

Some of the data will probably be published in a yearly financial or corporate report - the sort of thing that is of interest to shareholders - I've no idea if these things are 'public domain' - or whether any freedom of infomormation laws (where ever you are) makes it public (by law).

Some of the fields will not be applicable in the case of subsidaries?

That was exactly the intent, all of these data elements would be optional and some would not apply to subsidiaries. The biggest benefit of these additional data elements will be for the larger railroads, such as Union Pacific, Norfolk Southern Railway or Canadian Pacific Railway, but there is still benefit for those that are smaller (using the West Texas example, the article tells me that it is a subsidiary, its owner is Iowa Pacific Holdings, its parent is Permian Basin Railways and its services would be Rail Freight). - Richc80 (talk) 22:27, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

• Totally Agree - making the infobox effectively a speciailised sub-set of the infobox company is absolutely the right thing to do.FengRail (talk) 21:59, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Also see 'Template:Infobox rail company' which also should have the same thing done to it.

At the same time I'd like to suggest the addition of further subheadings:

• Passenger kilometers
• Passenger years
• Ton kilometers

ie those describe at Units of transportation measurement

• Comment' It the suggestion of further subheadings in adopted, then there should also be the imperial equivalents. Mjroots (talk) 06:00, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

• Passenger miles
• Ton miles

Seems perfectly reasonable - (if there is a way to combine both.. I can't think how)FengRail (talk) 15:52, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

As there have been no major objections to any of the suggestions above I am making the formal request for these changes to be made. Thanks! Richc80 (talk) 13:53, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Could I suggest that you put your desired code in the sandbox? I might also suggest that you use the meta template {{Infobox}}. If you need help with it, please let me know. When it's ready just drop a note on my talk or place the editprotected again. Cheers, — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:34, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Support -- very much in favor of these improvements to the infobox. The discussion dates back to February and I see no objections... can someone go ahead and make the changes, then? —BMRR (talk) 05:00, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Anyone? —BMRR (talk) 01:22, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Fix

{{editprotected}} Please replace {{{end_year}}} with {{{end_year|}}}. --NE2 14:17, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

 Done. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:36, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Fix electrification

Any RR

Technical
Electrification	e.g. 15 kV

Why doed the electrification data not show? Peter Horn 02:03, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Rhätische Bahn

RhB train on the Landwasser Viaduct
Overview
Headquarters	Chur
Locale	Switzerland
Technical
Track gauge	1000
Electrification	11 kV 16⅔ Hz (322 km) 1000 V DC (62 km, Bernina line)
Length	384 km (238.6 mi)

Bern-Lötschberg-Simplon railway

BLS Re4 class on the Lötschberg ramp
Overview
Dates of operation	–1997
Successor	BLS Lötschbergbahn
Technical
Electrification	15 kV, 16⅔ Hz, AC

Ditto. Peter Horn 02:58, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Rhaetian Railway, The | electrification = problem is still there and in both boxes at that. Peter Horn 16:12, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Because the template does not support that parameter currently, along with some others, e.g. old_gauge. It doesn't seem to have supported them for a long time, if ever. Perhaps the documentation was created as a kind of wish list, rather than to reflect reality :) I'll have a go at incorporating them into the template, but it might take a few days. While we're here, are there any other parameters that would be useful? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 16:50, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

old_gauge is unnecessary here, since it's part of {{infobox SG rail}} that partially overrides the default gauge. --NE2 21:45, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

See Template:Infobox rail line. Peter Horn 18:20, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

I have just added the info box of the Bern-Lötschberg-Simplon railway where the electrificarion does not show up either! Peter Horn 21:48, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

I have a version in the sandbox which now includes electrification and old_gauge, i.e. all the parameters which are advertised on the documentation. Perhaps someone could test it? There is a testcase on Template:Infobox rail/testcases. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:43, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Anyone? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:24, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

 Implemented. Let me know if there are any problems. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 22:30, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Horay!! Electrification now shows in all samples that I submitted. Thanks guys. Peter Horn 00:19, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Fix website

Hull-Chelsea-Wakefield Railway

Overview
Headquarters	Gatineau, Quebec
Locale	Between Hull and Wakefield
Dates of operation	(?)–Present
Predecessor	Canadian Pacific Railway/Quebec Gatineau Railway
Technical
Length	Template:Km to mi
Other
Website	[1]

Why does the website not show? Peter Horn 02:17, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Reporting mark

{{editprotected}} Please remove the "s" after reporting mark; the term is singular. --NE2 23:51, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

I've done it ... but is it not possible that two marks be specified? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 07:40, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

It's possible, but rare. It's also possible, for instance, that two predecessors are given. --NE2 17:26, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Additional parameters

Please add the following optional parameters which already exist in some form on Template:Infobox rail line and Template:BS-daten: Incline, minimum radius and Rack (if any) as well as change electrification to electrification. Peter Horn 16:54, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

This box: view • talk

Why do we have this in the lower right corner? It's a small convenience for an editor who might want to know about the infobox, but suggests to the average user that it offers detail and discussion about the contents of the infobox. It also appears in the wrong infobox if one is embedded, see Cumbres and Toltec Scenic Railroad.. . . . Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk • contribs) 14:02, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm inclined to get rid of it. —Mulad (talk) 19:28, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Turns out that it's a result of converting to using Template:Infobox as a higher-level template. Standard Infoboxes have it. Not really sure why. I've added a query at Template_talk:Infobox. —Mulad (talk) 15:59, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

It appears now to be gone; it is no longer at Cumbres and Toltec Scenic Railroad, which I cited above, and IIRC, it was present in all the boxes to the right here, as well. . . . . Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk • contribs) 12:45, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Rail gauge to Track gauge

Please change the link Rail gauge to Track gauge. Article has been renamed. TrackConnect (talk) 11:13, 4 November 2010 (UTC)