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The information about the photos is notable and sourced and someone keeps blanking it. Trying to claim NOTNEWS is bs, it has nothing to do with news. It's a notable event that has been covered in the mainstream media. Otherwise lets just remove half the article as "not news". 69.210.240.13 (talk) 21:02, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It is not notable in relation to her life and career. Its not like Paris Hilton, Kim Kardashian or even Vanessa Hudgens whose leaked images have had significant impacts on their lives and careers. Until that changes it is insignificant unnotable gossip.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 21:18, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with User:TriiipleThreat's rationale of applying What Wikipedia is not, which is policy. The "enduring notability" of the event has not been established in secondary reliable sources. If some importance or impact on Dennings career can be established, then it could be included. Biographies of living persons must be written conservatively and with regard for the subject's privacy, which is also policy. dissolve ^talk 22:19, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

From WP:NOTNEWS:

News reports. Wikipedia considers the enduring notability of persons and events. While news coverage can be useful source material for encyclopedic topics, most newsworthy events do not qualify for inclusion. For example, routine news reporting on things like announcements, sports, or celebrities is not a sufficient basis for inclusion in the encyclopedia. While including information on recent developments is sometimes appropriate, breaking news should not be emphasized or otherwise treated differently from other information. Timely news subjects not suitable for Wikipedia may be suitable for our sister project Wikinews.

I wouldn't call this routine news reporting. That would be "Kat Dennings attended the Academy Awards and wore a black dress". It goes on to say that "breaking news should not be emphasized or treated differently than other information". It is not being treated differently, in fact it's a tiny 3-4 line entry, a small percentage of the whole article. Therefore, I fail to see how NOTNEWS applies. This has been widely covered in the mainstream media and is a topic of discussion to ta significant degree. Please provide evidence to refute this and prove your statement that this does not belong. I have established, using objective arguments, that NOTNEWS isn't pertinent. 69.210.240.13 (talk) 22:49, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It is exactly routine news reporting. Widely covered and notable per Biographies of living persons are entirely two different things as celebrity gossip is widely covered even by mainstream media. There has yet to be any established significance or as Dissolve puts it "enduring notability" of this event. We have discussed What Wikipedia is not so lets discuss what Wikipedia is; an encyolpedia and as such you have to look at (no pun intended) the wider picture of Dennings' entire life and career to which this event has no relevance (at least not now).--TriiipleThreat (talk) 23:04, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It is not routine news reporting. While this is but a small part of the whole, it is a part nonetheless, which is addressed by the fact that it only merits a couple sentences out of the whole article. 69.210.240.13 (talk) 23:14, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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	:::It is exactly routine news reporting. Widely covered and notable per [[WP:BLP\|Biographies of living persons]] are entirely two different things as celebrity gossip is widely covered even by mainstream media. There has yet to be any established significance or as [[User:Dissolve\|Dissolve]] puts it "enduring notability" of this event. We have discussed [[WP:NOTNEWS\|What Wikipedia is not]] so lets discuss what Wikipedia is; an encyolpedia and as such you have to look at (no pun intended) the wider picture of Dennings' entire life and career to which this event has no relevance (at least not now).--[[User:TriiipleThreat\|TriiipleThreat]] ([[User talk:TriiipleThreat\|talk]]) 23:04, 11 November 2010 (UTC)		:::It is exactly routine news reporting. Widely covered and notable per [[WP:BLP\|Biographies of living persons]] are entirely two different things as celebrity gossip is widely covered even by mainstream media. There has yet to be any established significance or as [[User:Dissolve\|Dissolve]] puts it "enduring notability" of this event. We have discussed [[WP:NOTNEWS\|What Wikipedia is not]] so lets discuss what Wikipedia is; an encyolpedia and as such you have to look at (no pun intended) the wider picture of Dennings' entire life and career to which this event has no relevance (at least not now).--[[User:TriiipleThreat\|TriiipleThreat]] ([[User talk:TriiipleThreat\|talk]]) 23:04, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
			:::: It is not routine news reporting. While this is but a small part of the whole, it is a part nonetheless, which is addressed by the fact that it only merits a couple sentences out of the whole article. [[Special:Contributions/69.210.240.13\|69.210.240.13]] ([[User talk:69.210.240.13\|talk]]) 23:14, 11 November 2010 (UTC)