User talk:Orangemike

Kickstarter NPOV complaint

Curious, why does Kickstarter not seem neutral to you? It seemed OK to me to drop the notice after some article cleanup in September --Jamiew (talk) 23:28, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

It's the cutesie-poo pull quote from something called the Miami New Times that most rang my alarms. --Orange Mike | Talk 02:25, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

The quote is a joke Mike, as I think you know. If you check out the sources, you'll see there isn't a lot of bad to be said about it. Anyway, if you really think it needs work, please add some suggestions on the talk page if you're going to bring up issues of NPOV or notability. Steven Walling 16:57, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Lebron hired Pinto

Pinto was paid by Lebron - That should be amended. http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/LeBron-James-hires-rabbi-to-consult-on-business-?urn=nba-261513

Death Curse Obstfeld

The concept of Pinto death curse & possible involvement in Obstfeld death is worthy of Mention here. Do others agree ? http://www.vosizneias.com/58354/2010/06/21/new-york-claim-israeli-rabbi-put-death-curse-on-obstfeld/ http://www.forward.com/articles/128944/

Article help request

Dear "Orangemike",

I am a chess fan and small contibutor to Wikipedia. A few months ago I made a major update to an article about a chess master and teacher who is very famous in my country, but because of different reasons, his Wikipedia page didn't exist and it has been deleted repeteadly. I was provided with a copy of the article in question which I reformatted and submitted for review. After that, the article was approved by Wikipedia contributors and put live on Wikipedia. Now, a few months later I received a message saying that since the article was previously deleted, it has been deleted again. My question is: Is there any way for this article to go Live again and who I may turn to, in order to request the article to be reviewed and reforematted even more if needed. Here is the link for the article in question - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valeri_%22Tiger%22_Lilov. Thank you for your assistance!

Sincerely,

Dejan Stoynov

Deletion of article Mirza Faizan

Amazing!!!, Its amazing that administrators of wikipedia take decisions on assumptions for which they themselves are NOT sure!! Just because it "SOUNDS LIKES" something, they are taking decisions to keep or delete an article...lol!! Dude, this single sentence itself is the notability of this guy, who is doing something for the first time in a country and for global aerospace industry. Have a look at these global news: . Moreover, a businessman contribution to global economy itself is his notability, otherwise tell me what is the notability of Bill Gates without mentioning Microsoft?? It appears that you guys are acting under biased judgement and personal prejudice while taking decision to keep or delete an article and you people don't have an answer to my questions. This is the reason why Mr. Tnxman307 has no reply and now are acting on his behalf. However, the world knows Wikipedia is an international community and belongs to everyone, we will keep in posting articles. Good Luck!!

User:Arab League

User Arab League wants to change his username but does not know and wants you to help him About Changing Name Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 07:32, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

• Orangemike, can you explain to me the reasoning behind blocking a user who had been editing for over 4 years and made over 5000 edits without warning? I must be missing something. –xeno^talk 16:40, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
  • I thought under our standards for usernames this one was just plain not acceptable, any more than a username like User:AFL-CIO or User:Apple Inc.; it's not like I was happy about having to do it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Orangemike (talk • contribs) 16:47, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
    • For established users (that may have registered when such rules did not exist), there are other options than jumping straight to a block (especially one that suggests they register a new username), such as requesting they request a name change, or filing an RFC/N. –xeno^talk 16:49, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
      • I'll definitely keep that in mind for the future. By the way, thanks for unblocking AL. --Orange Mike | Talk 16:57, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Notability

I can understand your sentiment concerning Eggs Aldo (Alter ego of...?). Peppered with quaint turns of phrase and idioms, the language has the floral verbosity of Indian English - with which I am very familiar - but I may be mistaking it for a West Indian variety with which I am not familiar. The article is spiced with more than a touch of COI, but the main ingredients, notability and sources, are absent. Totally tasteless. --Kudpung (talk) 18:45, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Talkback

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JustNeem deletion

Could you please tell me what is expected to make a new article acceptable? I'm very new at this and thought I was following all of the posted guidelines. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Martynreynes (talk • contribs) 01:37, 16 November 2010 (UTC) — Martynreynes (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

Read WP:CORP. There is nothing to indicate this company is notable in any way; and the article reads like you work for them. --Orange Mike | Talk 01:39, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

I was editing Azadirachta indica and noticed that an Indian company was listed (Margo soap) and thought it might be helpful to add an American company as well. I do not work for JustNeem, I just like their soap.

Martynreynes (talk) 01:41, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

That falls under the WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS argument. I've nominated Margo (soap) for deletion as non-notable. --Orange Mike | Talk 01:46, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback. If it comes off as a sales pitch, I apologize. I guess I'm just not understanding the concept as well as you - I was just trying to share information.

Martynreynes (talk) 01:54, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Lawrencewarwick

I have posted at COIN. Racepacket (talk) 12:45, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

User:Texasmusicgirl block

It appears that this user that you blocked has created a new user (User:Rocknrollforever) to avoid your block. Rocknrollforever admits to being the same publicist in their latest edit of George Ducas (singer) diff --| Uncle Milty | talk | 23:27, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for playing Wikipedia Editor Groupmind this evening! Y'all can both go to Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Texasmusicgirl now. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:10, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Quack

User:Texasmusicgirl is evading her block with the account User:Rocknrollforever. If it's not her, it's most definitely a meatpuppet as their first and only edit was to immediately nominate the George Ducas (singer) article for speedy deletion. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 00:26, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Ponyo and I, on the other hand, have absolutely no off-site communication. ^_^ --| Uncle Milty | talk | 00:36, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Aha! That's what I get for hitting 'new section' to edit, I completely missed the post above. Nice mind-melding with you Uncle Milty! --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 00:55, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for playing Wikipedia Editor Groupmind this evening! Y'all can both go to Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Texasmusicgirl now. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:10, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

My talk and user pages

Thanks for catching that, I wonder who the editor was I upset. Dougweller (talk) 07:25, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

You clearly weren't the only one. Tag 'em, bag 'em and forget 'em. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:11, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Good policy, I saw that the editor hit other pages. Dougweller (talk) 19:39, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

NASDAQ

I am not saying that it does convey notability, just that it is a claim to significance, a lower standard than notibility.VERTott 17:33, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

FWIW this is briefly discussed at WP:LISTED. – ukexpat (talk) 18:05, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, my expatriated friend. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:08, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

zChocolat (ZChocolat)

Hi there! I am new to Wikipedia and was drafting an article about a company I have ordered from in the past that had no Wikipedia entries yet. Per the instructions, I created it under my user page and asked to have it reviewed. I took a break from this project to try and find some references and then returned to find it had been moved out of the user space. Now it shows up on a Google search of the company's name, even though it has all these Wikipedia alarms on it regarding notability, tone, etc.

I see in the history that you have been kind enough to work on it. Can you help me understand how/why you moved it to the articlespace and what that actually means? I thought that, as long as it was under my User Page it was a work in progress that only I could edit, but I guess I was wrong. Second, how can I change the title? The name of the company is actually zChocolat.com (little z and add the .com), so I'd like to fix that.

Also, I have some more information and can easily tone down what some see as the promotional tone. I did model it after pages for similar companies (Scharffen Berger, Godiva, Lindt, etc.). Can I go ahead and keep editing the content?

Thanks! YoDroz (talk) 00:38, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Replied at User talk:YoDroz.--Orange Mike | Talk 16:07, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Luxury Stranger

I was browsing random articles and found Luxury Stranger. I've noticed you've reverted recent COI edits, but am wondering: is the band even notable? It looks like it could be put up for AFD, but I'm unsure because of the source from BBC. -WarthogDemon 03:23, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

User talk:Schock.cc

Could you review the above block. I have read their unblock request, and it seems on the up-and-up. Their explanation for how their username matches their personal website seems OK to me, and I don't see this as a huge deal, in light of the explanation. Is there any objection you have towards unblocking? --Jayron32 04:31, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Ralph Drollinger

Hi Orangemike, I have requested a sockpuppet investigation at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/RK Drollinger, in case you wanted to comment there. OCNative (talk) 16:38, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

I've commented there. TNXMan 16:57, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Chandler Davis

Hi OrangeMike! Please provide a source for the statement that Davis describes himself as a former member of the Communist Party of the USA. Thanks, Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 18:19, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Done. I'd thought it was pretty much common knowledge by now; he was your classic red-diaper baby. --Orange Mike | Talk 21:13, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Caitlin Rose

If you delete an artist's article, it's probably good to delete their albums too. Dead Flowers EP and Own Side Now are both A9 now. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Otters want attention)} 04:43, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Frances Jacson

Thanks for your input to this new page. For technical reasons (edit overlaps), please could you hold off for a couple of hours? I'm transcribing (and of course rephrasing) information from the ODNB article on her. I'll then look for further sources. Blessings. Bmcln1 (talk) 16:57, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

"States Rights": Code words edit

OrangeMike,

In regards to the “code word” edits. I have performed a search and have found no politicians that used racial "code words" during the last presidential election. There are however, talk show hosts, TV and newspaper articles suggesting that race was an issue. There are also groups like the “Birthers” to the “Black Panthers” that proclaim racism. But there were no politicians: like the "code words" examples present. My edits are factual and are in no-way an attempt to hide an ugly American past. I think the article is quite good and needs to be understood in the context of the correct era.

It’s wrong to ask me to find examples for another user (Malik). Malik has and can present his own evidence. Matthew.zellmer (talk) 20:56, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

OrangeMike,

22 Nov 2010 Malik added an example of "states rights" used as a code word for segregation, but the example article; http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/texassouthwest/stories/DN-perry_19tex.ART0.State.Edition1.4b7d22a.html, says the Gov. Rick Perry was very vocal against slavery and made it clear (in the article) that he is against segregation. I don’t understand Malik, he provided an article that DISPROVES code words being used today.

Matthew.zellmer (talk) 16:44, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

OrangeMike, Thanks for adjusting my changes; I will endeavor provide proper sentence structure and grammar in the future. Matthew.Zellmer 19:43, 22 November 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Matthew.zellmer (talk • contribs)

This is speculative; but I believe Malik suspects, even more strongly than I, that Perry is like a lot of modern-day Southern Republicans in that he wants the votes of the racists, but does not want to openly appeal for them in the old Nixon-Agnew-Thurmond Southern Strategy style; and therefore Malik felt that this was damning evidence of Perry's real tactics. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:15, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Yugioh Decks

You missed the page. --intelati^talk 20:56, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Request for input on List Article

Hello,

I would like your input on the List of Lew Carpenter cites at Talk:List of Lew Carpenter cites. It is attached to the article Lew Carpenter, which is a work in progress. I would appreciate your input to properly cite the information and where. Thank you. Jrcrin001 (talk) 22:34, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

For my first "Sports" related article, I am learning some things the hard way ... Such is life. Thank you for your blunt honesty. Jrcrin001 (talk) 04:24, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Triune Hypothesis

Thanks, Mike. I just wanted to say how much I enjoyed discovering The Truth. I'm a convert now! Jimfbleak - talk to me? 07:09, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Melanie Joy

Hi Mike, can you delete this again and possibly with a spoonfull of salt. Also it's not the same creator so I suspect a sock.

• 10:30, 20 November 2010 Orangemike (talk | contribs) deleted "Melanie Joy" ‎ (A7: No explanation of the subject's significance (real person, animal, organization, or web content))
• 10:18, 20 November 2010 Orangemike (talk | contribs) deleted "Melanie Joy" ‎ (A7: No explanation of the subject's significance (real person, animal, organization, or web content))

--Kudpung (talk) 07:51, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Wisconsin witch hunt

Good morning-I came across a new article Wisconsin witch hunt. It was an article about someone who is involved in Wicca and wanted to be a chaplain involving the Wisconsin prison system. You may find this interesting-Thanks-RFD (talk) 13:10, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Julian Jakobi

Would you please restore this article I was working on. It is not eligble for A7 as it clearly asserts notability - it states Julian Jakobi was Ayrton Senna's manager. It has already been speedy deleted when I was working on it by a different admin and restored, please could you now restore the article so I can continute working on it? Thanks.--Pontificalibus (talk) 16:52, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Restored and moved to User:Pontificalibus/Julian Jakobi, so go right ahead, but make your case. Being the manager of a famous person (whoever Yarton Senna is) doesn't make you famous; we don't have articles on John Lennon's doorman or Tony Blair's barber. --Orange Mike | Talk 16:59, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Oh come on, a "barber" or "doorman" clearly doesn't have as much influence over someone's success as their manager. Anyway that essay you cite refers to arguments occuring in AfD, which is where you should have taken this article if you were unhappy about the subject's notability, as it's clearly ineligible under A7 which requires only some indication of importance. --Pontificalibus (talk) 17:14, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

I don't consider "the manager of X" to be an indication of importance. At any rate, it's restored; good luck with that. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:17, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Christmas with a Capital C

Yo, what is up? you kinda deleted this page without a discussing with anyone dude. I wrote the page and as I can re-call there were no Unambiguous advertising or promotion. i wrote the about the plot, whose in it, and the whole war on Christmas theme to it. how is that Unambiguous advertising or promotion? -- Hope to hear from you soon The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 10:03, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

It reeks of promotional language, and the plot synopsis totally buys into the film-maker's spurious position. I've restored it anyway, but tagged it for improvements. --Orange Mike | Talk 13:21, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Panasonic KX-T article deletion

Dear Orangemike, I am frustrated that you deleted my contribution; particularly since you have motivated it by a suspicion that this is a commercial product promotion. I have no financial interest in the Panasonic phone systems, other than as a user. I have used these systems in three different small businesses where I have worked, and have generally been very satisfied with them, but I derive no financial benefit from others purchasing them. My reasons for wanting a page about them is twofold: - I would like to have a place where I and other users of these systems can find a quick overview - I think of these (now mostly obsolete along with all other non-VoIP phone systems) as deserving of a place in history like the rest of computer history.

Panasonic / National / Technics / Matsushita is a company with an interesting history, and the division that made these system has an especially interesting history that I would be eager to learn more about.

If this product like is not deserving, how do you justify an article about the "Panasonic JR-200" early PC?

I would like to appeal to you for either a better reason, or restoration of the article which I understand is within your power.

Lpoulsen (talk) 19:10, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Language like "These systems have a reputation for being among the easiest to set up for simple installations, because the factory setup 'does the right thing'. Like all full-featured business phone systems, they become complex to setup when you want more complex setups." and "One of the features that endeared these systems to their fans was that although Panasonic produced proprietary telephones to provide easy access to the advanced features of the system, it would also work with simple consumer-grade analog telephones. This kept the cost down, since an additional employee could be accommodated with a $15 telephone from the nearest appliance store instead of requiring a $400 proprietary telephone." was grossly unencyclopedic, and had no place here. If you want to create a fansite for Panasonic phone systems, with praise unsourced other than to your personal opinion, then go ahead; but don't put it into Wikipedia. --Orange Mike | Talk 19:26, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Triton Productions - Deletion

Hello Orange Mike. Can you please let me know what we'd need to do to restore the page for Triton Productions? All of the images and events have been produced by Triton. I also sent you an email. Thank you. javier velarde (talk) 21:17, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

After a long discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Triton Productions, this article you wrote about a company you (Javier Velarde) own] was deleted, as it is a non-notable local event-management business. --Orange Mike | Talk 21:26, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Hoax deletion

Hello Mr. Orangemike. Why did you delete the article I created on My Brother, Borat? It included a reference to a NYT article and there are lots of other sources available. I would appreciate a restoration. Alternatively, an article on the director would be okay with a redirect to it. Thank you for your cooperation. Jagshemash! 21:04, 24 November 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by FredoMurphy (talk • contribs)

I dropped Fredo a note,[1] suggesting he begin article in a sandbox, so that he'd have time to expand and source before moving to mainspace. I also let him know that the My Brother, Borat article, specially after its expansion and sourcing while at AFD, was retained after less than 19 hours as a speedy keep.[2] He should be happy. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 20:59, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Jagshemash! I am happy, even though it was disappointing to get no response from Orangemike. Thanks. FredoMurphy (talk) 00:47, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Out My Window

Hi Mike, when you get a moment could you please take another look at Out My Window? While it's still very stubby, I've added some news refs, and though some are newspaper blogs, I think this one in particular, a Toronto Star feature, combined with the others, helps to establish some real-world notability. thanks, Shawn in Montreal (talk) 21:17, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

• I've taken the liberty of removing the notability tag, as I believe it has ample WP:RS, now. However, please feel free to restore your tag if you still have concerns. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 00:04, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Michael (Mike) Davey, former Jamaican soccer player

Hi Mike: My name is Brandon Bradshaw and I received a "Unambiguous advertiseing" with the deletion of my article. I have revised the article to reflect a 100% neutral point of view (NPOV). Please advise as to steps I should follow to resubmit this article.

Thanks, Mikelld (talk) 22:22, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Nobody cares about his engineering license number! Stop calling the subject "Mike"; don't use language like "Mike’s legendary “exploits” on the soccer field"; format the article properly per our manual of style and citation guidelines. I'll retitle the article ASAP to something more acceptable. --Orange Mike | Talk 22:31, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Rabbi Pinto

You helped previously. Users are whitewashing information which all comes from the references they have included in the article ? Pinto is not well known in Israel and became famous after a mysterious death —Preceding unsigned comment added by Babasalichai (talk • contribs) 01:56, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia doesn't repeat hearsay, which is all that is. Yworo (talk) 02:05, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

How is it hearsay ? Its referenced in the sources you post in your articles. Its taken precisely from the articles you present as fact ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Babasalichai (talk • contribs) 02:11, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

It's an allegation made by a unidentified "friend of the family" of the deceased. We don't repeat ridiculous anonymous attacks against a living person. Curses don't exist. They don't kill people. Accusing someone of such a thing doesn't make it true. It is, however, defamatory and we don't repeat defamation, especially when it can't possibly be true. It's just a cheap shot by a cowardly accuser who isn't willing to allow their name to be associated with it. Yworo (talk) 04:34, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

There are repeated articles citing it and countless religious figures who claim it to be true. So even without the curse why not include that he became prominent after the mysterious death that sounds like a fair compromise in that case ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.173.122.113 (talk) 09:58, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Stella McCartney Page

Thank you for your message. I currently work for Stella McCartney and so does my collegue Hkingwu1 who has also tried to update the Stella McCartney page with the Stella McCartney Kids Text. If we are unable to update this section could the Stella McCartney Kids url link be added to the External Links section or could you please advise us on how to update this section correctly. I also noticed that a Ravenscroft32 and a Bigweeboy also edit this page, have you all been contracted by a member of the Stella McCartney Team to do this?

Many thanks 17:07, 30.11.10 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rebeccajaneherd27 (talk • contribs) 17:11, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

You shouldn't be doing this. Least of all should you be doing this with the kind of sparkly glitzy advertising crap language which you posted to this article. We don't permit advertising in Wikipedia; the posting of advertising language is treated as a form of vandalism, and blocked just like any other kind of vandalism. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:30, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Carl Brandon Society

Hi Mike. I'm a bit worried about all these red linked award holders. IMHO, even if it's true, if it can't be proven, they shouldn't be there. --Kudpung (talk) 06:43, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

They were shortlisted, that's not at issue; they just don't have articles. Sometimes, as has been said, a redlink is an indicator that we need an article. Sometimes they're just obscure nominees (like a couple of the Hugo nominees over the years). --Orange Mike | Talk 13:45, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Penrithpanthers

As I suspected, he's claiming no affiliation with the team whatsoever in his unblock request. I'd be inclined to unblock without the username change as long as he makes this clear on his userpage. Thoughts? Daniel Case (talk) 13:07, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

I think we have to insist on a change of username, to PenPanFan or something; otherwise, it's just like any other username which is the name of a collective body. --Orange Mike | Talk 13:43, 1 December 2010 (UTC)