Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Food and drink

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--Jeremy ( Blah blah...) 02:04, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

New Award

As audited food and drink articles are underrepresented, I have dangled a new carrot here bon appetit Casliber (talk · contribs) 22:44, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Notable Restaurants needing articles

Having recently participated in a notability discussion related to restaurant reviews, I did some research and created this subpage: Notable Restaurants needing articles to assist and prompt editors who might be interesting in expanding restaurant coverage in WP. --Mike Cline (talk) 17:06, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Moved page to Wikipedia:WikiProject Food and drink/Foodservice taskforce/Notable Restaurants needing articles per advice of User:Jerem43. --Mike Cline (talk) 19:23, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Thomcord grapes

Inspired by a DYK on the main page concerning grapes, I have created an article for the Thomcord variety, which happens to be my favorite... when I can find it! It has been nominated for DYK, and I plan to put it up for GAC and possibly FAC very soon. Writing about grapes (instead of lemurs—my specialty) was a very educational experience. Yet I'm worried that my lack of experience in this field may necessitate some attention from an expert. Would someone who is more knowledgeable of grapes please look over the article before I post it for GAC? (I will be posting this message on WikiProject Wine as well.) – VisionHolder « talk » 23:42, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

...eh... I think I'll just nominate it for GAC now, but the FAC nomination will definitely wait for a feedback from one or both of these projects. I've also written an email to David Ramming (its creator) for his feedback as well. – VisionHolder « talk » 00:00, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

I've got that GA review for you. --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 18:37, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Nomination of Mosodeng for deletion

The article Mosodeng is being discussed concerning whether it is suitable for inclusion as an article according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mosodeng until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. JeepdaySock (AKA, Jeepday) 16:29, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Chili

I thought people here would be interested in a discussion I just started at Talk:Chili con carne. I think that article name is incorrect, and it should be called Chili (stew). This is more appropriate as not all chilis are made with meat (con carne). Join the discussion there for input. — Timneu22 · talk 00:00, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Category:Tea and coffee stubs

Please note that I have nominated Category:Tea and coffee stubs for splitting and deleting. Feel free to express your opinions at Wikipedia:Stub types for deletion/Log/2011/January/12#Category:Tea and coffee stubs. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 09:55, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

History of Wine Article

The History of wine article has not yet been assessed against the "B-Class" criteria. Would like it to be assessed. Adamdaley (talk) 06:05, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Online Reliable Sources

Hi folks. I am trying to improve a couple food articles and am wondering if the Food Project has any sort of directory of online food sites considered RS, or if anyone has some good sites to suggest. Thanks, The Interior(Talk) 23:53, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

It depends on the type of articles you are talking about. If they are restaurants or commercial food companies you can look at the industry trades such as Nation's Restaurant News. If they are about a cuisine or dish from a specific cuisine, look at the parent article (Xxx cuisine) and see if there is anything usable there. --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 01:14, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

When it comes to food products, well-known dishes/cuisines or notable restaurants, many local libraries now have online access (at no cost) to some of the premium database research sites. I've had luck with this method, as it allows you to quickly dig up archived articles from industry-specific trade publications (like Nation's Restaurant News). I've also found these resources to be helpful:

• food manufacturing
• progressive grocer
• Penn State food science research guide

Is there a certain article/topic area that you have in mind? Cheers, Jeff Bedford (talk) 22:23, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for great pointers, both of you. The article I was trying to source is Chouquette but I would also like to make some improvements to Poutine. The Interior(Talk) 23:04, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Happy to help. I actually found a handful of solid references for Chouquette and Poutine by doing a google books search:

• The Oxford companion to food
• The Pastry Chef's Companion: A Comprehensive Resource Guide
• Montreal & Quebec City for Dummies
• You Know You're in New Hampshire When...
• Frommer's Montreal & Quebec City 2009

You'll notice that only certain pages of each book are viewable when searching with Google Books. I find it to be a helpful starting point, and it often points me in the right direction of what books to seek out at the library or book store. Jeff Bedford (talk) 02:04, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Merge these two panning articles

I've had my account here for a long time, but I'm not a very active editor, so I don't know all the procedures. Apologies if this isn't the way to do this. Sugar panning is a "high" importance stub. Cold panned process is a "low" importance stub. Both are about essentially the same thing. It seems to me that cold panned should be merged into sugar panning. I've borrowed Sugar Confectionery Manufacture from the library and will be updating sugar panning anyway. --Elijah (talk) 05:27, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Big mistake

Kefalotyri and Graviera

• Kefalotyri means yellow cheese in wheels,kefali is greek for cheese-wheel and tyri is cheese, all yellow cheese in wheels are considered Kefalotyri (exaple: reggato kefalotyri) but if it is used along it usually means graviera cheese.
• plz correct it.

It may be true historically that kefalotyri refers to all cheese in wheels, however normal modern usage refers to a particular hard cheese, usually used grated. See for example http://www.dodoni.eu/Home/Products/HardCheese/Kefalotiri.xml.aspx?Language=2 or the Babiniotis and Andriotis dictionaries. --Macrakis (talk) 20:01, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Cuba_Libre#Requested_move

All input welcome. Cheers. ^walk victor falk ^talk 00:25, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Proposed revision of Gatorade article

Hello fellow Wikiproject Food and Drink folks, I've proposed a revision of the Gatorade article here and thought this would be of interest to some of you. If it is, please feel free to join in on the discussion on that article's Talk page. Cheers, Jeff Bedford (talk) 03:16, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

List of meat animals

I have started a discussion at Talk:List of meat animals#Scope, again to determine whether the scope of the list allows for a valid stand-alone list. All input is welcome.

Thank you, -- Black Falcon ^(talk) 18:09, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Seven layer dip

Apparently, part of the American Super Bowl ritual includes a Seven layer dip. Although it's a few days late, just figured someone (esp. Americans?) on this Wikiproject may be interested in expanding Seven layer dip or Dip (food)? Perhaps by next year? :-) Just a thought. Shreevatsa (talk) 08:08, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Why should all Taiwanese foods be listed under Chinese?

I see this as another attempt to Chinese-everything that's Taiwanese. Bubble tea or boba is purely Taiwanese. Grilled squid is also purely Taiwanese. All foods have its origins. American hot dogs derived from German frankfurter, so why is it called German hot dogs? Did Taiwanese oyster vermicelli really come from China? Please look into it. Are they exactly alike? If not, it should not be listed as sub-category of Chinese food. What about eel noodles? I don't think it came from China. What about the Taiwanese foods that have Japanese influence? Why is Taiwanese food not listed as a sub-category of Japanese food?

Why should all Taiwanese foods be listed under Chinese?

I see this as another attempt to Chinese-everything that's Taiwanese. Bubble tea or boba is purely Taiwanese. Grilled squid is also purely Taiwanese. All foods have its origins. American hot dogs derived from German frankfurter, so why is it not called German hot dogs? Did Taiwanese oyster vermicelli really come from China? Please look into it. Are they exactly alike? If not, it should not be listed as sub-category of Chinese food. What about eel noodles? I don't think it came from China. What about the Taiwanese foods that have Japanese influence? Why is Taiwanese food not listed as a sub-category of Japanese food?