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:No, what you have fallen foul of is the fact that, as an [[WP:ENC|encyclopedia]], Wikipedia is selective about its subjects (unlike, say, Myspace); it only covers things that are already established. The standard is called [[WP:N|''notability'']] and what that means for bands is explained at [[WP:BAND]]. From what you wrote, it's clear that Humanzee, who were only formed this year and "''are currently working on new material''", are nowhere near that standard (yet), so there is no point letting you waste time on adding to the article. See [[WP:Your first article]] for more advice. [[User:JohnCD|JohnCD]] ([[User talk:JohnCD#top|talk]]) 13:58, 10 February 2011 (UTC) |
:No, what you have fallen foul of is the fact that, as an [[WP:ENC|encyclopedia]], Wikipedia is selective about its subjects (unlike, say, Myspace); it only covers things that are already established. The standard is called [[WP:N|''notability'']] and what that means for bands is explained at [[WP:BAND]]. From what you wrote, it's clear that Humanzee, who were only formed this year and "''are currently working on new material''", are nowhere near that standard (yet), so there is no point letting you waste time on adding to the article. See [[WP:Your first article]] for more advice. [[User:JohnCD|JohnCD]] ([[User talk:JohnCD#top|talk]]) 13:58, 10 February 2011 (UTC) |
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I was trying to make a wiki page for my client but it got deleted immediately. Apparently it falls in the A7 category. |
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The artist is well known in India and Canada and has a big fan following. |
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Crocodillin
Hi John, I see you recently deleted the page on Crocodillin. I'm not the author of that page so I'm not sure what it said, but I'm the scientist who helped to discover the antimicrobial agent that we named "crocodillin". I'm writing to clarify the situation, as the note you've provided as reason for deletion is inaccurate. I've never created a Wiki page before, but I'd be happy to figure it out to establish a credible source of information for this subject as I'm still being asked about it years later (an email today prompted this search). Here's a summary of the situation. I'd be happy to bring this up to Wikipedia standards in terms of citations, including published papers on recent work and news articles referencing the original discovery.
A potent antimicrobial agent was positively identified in crocodile blood (originally Crocodylus porosus and subsequently Crocodylus johnstoni) by Dr Gill Diamond (New Jersey Medical School) in 1998 and 2001, following funding provided by the British Broadcasting Authority (in 1998) and National Geographic (in 2001) to investigate my hypothesis on why crocodiles appeared to show such effective immunological response to bacterial infection. I collected blood samples from wild crocodiles, and Dr Diamond isolated and tested components in the blood using a technique that he had developed. The component that showed strong antimicrobial activity was tested against a variety of bacteria including resistant Staphylococcus aureus ("Golden Staph") where it successfully killed bacteria during each test. The same test was repeated on various samples collected in both 1998 and 2001. Dr Diamond coined this unknown agent "crocodillin" and the entire sequence of events above was documented in the 1999 BBC documentary "Secret Life of Crocodiles" (aka "Crocodile Secrets"). A paper was presented in October 2002 in Florida (Britton 2002) presenting the facts as we knew them at the time, including speculation on the nature of "crocodillin" (an antimicrobial peptide of some description). No further work was done on this peptide after 2001 by Dr Diamond.
Approximately two years after the airing of the 1999 BBC documentary, I began receiving "spam" emails both directly and indirectly through colleagues of a company selling a miracle "Antidote" modeled after our "crocodillin" discovery. The email and a subsequent website clearly cited news articles associated with the 1999 BBC documentary, together with unverified recommendations by unnamed scientists involved in the research (the implication being Dr Diamond and myself) endorsing this product. While it wasn't possible to prove that the "Antidote" was a hoax, the claims being made that associated it with our discovery and our endorsement were false, and the BBC legal team shut down the site. It reappeared numerous times over the following years at a variety of different websites but its associations with "crocodillin" remain untrue. As far as I was informed, the US FDA has on at least one occasion blocked its importation on the grounds that it was not clinically trialled.
Current research on the antimicrobial (and other) properties of crocodile and alligator blood is being conducted primarily by Dr Mark Merchant (McNeese State University, Louisiana). Mark coined the term "alligacin" to refer to his discovery of a similar agent in the blood of the American alligator (Alligator mississippiensis). Mark and I re-examined the antimicrobial peptide found in Crocodylus porosus in 2005 (Merchant and Britton 2006) and published more on its efficacy and function. We referred to the term "crocodillin" in that paper.
In summary, "crocodillin" is not a hoax. It is a name coined in 1998 by Dr Gill Diamond that refers to an antimicrobial peptide discovered in the blood of the saltwater crocodile (Crocodylus porosus), although it has been since been linked to commercial products that are not associated with nor endorsed by the original research.
Britton, A.R.C., Diamond, G., Laube, D. and Kaiser, V., 2002. Antimicrobial activity in the blood of the saltwater crocodile (Crocodylus porosus). [abstract presented by G. Diamond at the 16th Working Meeting of the IUCN/SSC Crocodile Specialist Group, Florida, USA, October 2002]
Merchant, M. and Britton, A.R.C., 2006. Characterization of serum complement activity of saltwater (Crocodylus porosus) and freshwater (Crocodylus johnstoni) crocodiles. Comp. Biochem. Physiol. A Mol. Integr. Physiol. A. 143(4): 488-493
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Dr Adam Britton (abritton@crocodilian.com)
Big Gecko Crocodilian Research, Darwin, Australia —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.210.26.159 (talk) 02:01, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) I'm not JohnCD but I can answer. This was deleted under our proposed deletion system for uncontroversial deletions and such articles can be restored upon request so I have restored it. Future requests for the restoration of PRODed articles can done at requests for undeletion. However, this article still may be deleted at articles for deletion if someone wishes to nominate it. Further note, if you intend to edit this article then please review our conflict of interest guideline first. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 13:20, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
The fact that there are antimicrobial agents in crocodile blood is not in dispute. However an article under the name "crodillin" suggests, that it is a (common) term used by the scientific community to describe those agents and that is the claim in question here. According to the deletion discussionin the German wikipedia, it was pointed out that none of the cited papers actually use the term and and an email by one of the involved researchers basically suggested that the term "crocodillin" as such is just a press hype. Note that a name that one individual researcher might have used in his original paper or in an interview with the press is usually not good enough, but other (secondary) publication and at least parts of the community need to use/adopt the term as well otherwise it is simply not notable (see WP:Notability, WP:OR) and possibly even fringe. The term "hoax" in the deletion proposal might have been a bit ambivalent or msileading. It was not meant as a hoax in the sense of there are no antimicrobial agents or nobody ever used the term "crocodillin" but rather in the sense of implicating that "crocodillin" is a (notable) established term in the scientific community.--Kmhkmh (talk) 14:42, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- While I was pondering what to do about this, Ron Ritzman (talk) restored it as a contested PROD, and then DragonflySixtyseven (talk) deleted it again saying "Although there do appear to be antimicrobial polypeptides in crocodile blood, there isn't really any serious research that uses this name. Sorry.." I don't really disagree with either of those decisions, but after pondering further I have restored the article and moved it into the Article Incubator at WP:Article Incubator/Crocodillin. I think with Dr. Britton's help there probably is an article here, but it will not in the end be called "Crocodillin" (a) because that term is not a well enough established neologism to satisfy WP:NEO and (b) in order not to give aid and comfort to persons who are apparently peddling quack medicines using the term. I have protected the title "Crocodillin" as an interim precaution. Dr. Britton, I will email you some links and suggestions of how you can help. JohnCD (talk) 22:43, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- Writing a few words about antimicrobial agents or peptides in crocodile blood is certainly ok, but at least for now it should be not under the article name crocodillin until that one has become an established term. Also as long as the amount of the content is as small as the original deleted article it might be worthwhile to consider integrating the information in other already existing articles for crocodiles, (general) antimicrobial agents or antibiotica/antibacterial agents.--Kmhkmh (talk) 22:58, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, that may be best in the end - let's see what Dr Britton can supply from WP:RS. JohnCD (talk) 23:03, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- Writing a few words about antimicrobial agents or peptides in crocodile blood is certainly ok, but at least for now it should be not under the article name crocodillin until that one has become an established term. Also as long as the amount of the content is as small as the original deleted article it might be worthwhile to consider integrating the information in other already existing articles for crocodiles, (general) antimicrobial agents or antibiotica/antibacterial agents.--Kmhkmh (talk) 22:58, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
Olivia Grosser
Many thanks for your response to the Olivia Grosser article. I was a little timid in recommending a deletion even though I noted an obvious copyright issue - maybe this was because she looks a tad notable and thought a clean-up and copy-vio material removal might help. I removed all the copy-vio stuff I could find, which left next to nothing, but the article creator, who appeared to me to be the subject herself, reversed my edits. If I may, I might ask for your advice whenever I come across such an article again. Best wishes, Acabashi (talk) 19:37, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
- There is an admin who meets cut-and-pasted articles with this. For cases where a bit more explanation is required I have recently written User:JohnCD/Not a noticeboard - comments welcome. If the article has potential and you have time to do a rewrite, that is a kind thing to do (but be aware that a substantial rewrite is required, not just tweaking - see Wikipedia:Copy-paste). If the author then re-enters the spammy copy-vio, WP:AGF has gone far enough. When tagging for copyvio, it is certainly good to indicate other problems, as I did at the foot of User talk:Oliviayard: it is unnecessarily BITEy to let them go through the palaver of getting a copyright clearance and then delete it as spam or non-notable. You will find you soon learn, but by all means ask advice if you like, though I don't guarantee a rapid response. JohnCD (talk) 19:17, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Speedy deletion converted to PROD: Las Islas Donde Nace La Luna
Hi JohnCD. Thank you for your message. Las Islas Donde Nace La Luna was a tough one. I reluctantly placed CSD:A7 as I couldn't see any context from the article although it has redirects to the author and publisher. But it helps with a second opinion from an expert. A PROD tag will be just as fine with me as I was helping out with new article patrol.--Visik (talk) 01:35, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- Books, software, music don't come under A7, and unless the articles are blatantly promotional should not be tagged G11 either, so for those you often have to go to PROD. If the PROD explains itself clearly, eg with a link to WP:Notability (books), very often the author understands and accepts it and the article quietly goes after a week with no need for AfD. There is good advice for speedy taggers at WP:10CSD and WP:A7M. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 19:03, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- Hi JohnCD, thanks for your very helpful advice and the internal page WP:A7M, this will finetune my CSD tags whenever I am helping out at NPP in regards to books. This clears up any confusion I had with regards to books, software and other types of articles. --Visik (talk) 01:56, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
Thank you
Thank you for taking the time explaining me how to proceed. Very Best Regards Teresa.jose (talk) 12:06, 28 January 2011 (UTC) Teresa.jose
My userspace!
It says you can work on articles in your userspace till theyre ready. Why do you keep deleting mine? Also, you didntbeven give me enough time to contest deletion! — Preceding unsigned comment added by IwantCLEANwater (talk • contribs) 18:53, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- Personal attacks are deleted at sight even in user space. Wikipedia is not for political polemic. More advice on your talk page. JohnCD (talk) 18:57, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- dude. It's not a personal attack, I'm going to have sources for all of it and include more. YOu guys dont even give me time to work on it. IwantCLEANwater (talk) 19:45, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
I blocked the above editor as being a sockpuppet of Kenboydhate (talk · contribs). -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 19:50, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
Ken Boyd
Hello,
I was working on a non-wikipedia blog post and in the process of searching [1] came across the page you deleted on one of the supervisors (I assume) in my county, Ken Boyd. I just wanted to give you a heads up that I will probably commence work on an article for that supervisor next as I have been working on local political articles (as a resident who is interested in politics, thus my search for a blog post). Out of curiosity, do you mind clarifying why you deleted the article, and also, would you mind looking over Ann Mallek and let me know if you think that it needs to be improved in some way? Just want to make sure everything is kosher when I move into that area.. now back to my blog post. :) WikiManOne 09:00, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- The entry just above this one, and this talk page, will explain why I deleted the article. Mr Boyd evidently has enemies, or at least an enemy, and I fear an article on him will attract vandalism, but that is not a reason not to write one, carefully following WP:NPOV and WP:BLP. When you popped up the day after all that, I though you must be "Kenboydhate" back again, particularly when I looked at your user page - putting a "banned" notice on your own page seems to me seriously unwise, my first reaction was "no need to answer that, then!" However, I see you are an established editor. Ann Mallek looks fine; I don't know what a "supervisor" is, and I have some doubts myself about whether local politicians are really notable, but as long as you can find enough references which are actually substantial comment rather than just passing mentions you should be OK. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 10:28, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- He is certainly a very polarizing figure in the county. I'm surprised that someone went so far as to create an account with that name, seems rather self-defeating and I agree with your delete (not that it matters). I just wanted to make sure it wasn't for notability or something like that before I started working on a new version. Being in the locale, there are very significant coverage in local news outlets so it shouldn't be a problem establishing notability. Boyd also ran for congress in the previous round unsuccessfully so there should be sources from there. I plan to continue working on the Mallek article for now and hopefully get some collaboration on it and then I will move towards other local figures, possibly Boyd. Whatever I do I will work on it in my userspace first. WikiManOne 10:51, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- PS: The "banned" notice is a joke, quite probably a misguided one, but I find humor in it when I see it. I think it also cuts down on the number of messages I get.
- One warning: Wikipedia is very resistant to being used for any kind of promotion or campaigning, including election campaigning. For that reason, per WP:POLITICIAN, press references etc arising out of being a candidate are not normally counted towards notability, and you should be very careful not to include in any bios of local politicians anything that looks like campaign statements or propaganda. "Mr X's aim if elected will be to ensure for the good citizens of Blankville an ever-rising standard of..." etc. or even "Mr X is strongly pro-gun/anti-gun/pro-life/pro-death... " unless backed up by reliable sources independent of him and his campaign. JohnCD (talk) 18:53, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- I understand, which is why I am taking extra time to write the supervisor section at Ann Mallek, I want to make sure it maintains NPOV and verifiability. WikiManOne 20:21, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- One warning: Wikipedia is very resistant to being used for any kind of promotion or campaigning, including election campaigning. For that reason, per WP:POLITICIAN, press references etc arising out of being a candidate are not normally counted towards notability, and you should be very careful not to include in any bios of local politicians anything that looks like campaign statements or propaganda. "Mr X's aim if elected will be to ensure for the good citizens of Blankville an ever-rising standard of..." etc. or even "Mr X is strongly pro-gun/anti-gun/pro-life/pro-death... " unless backed up by reliable sources independent of him and his campaign. JohnCD (talk) 18:53, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Thanks
Thanks for your fast response.TucsonDavidU.S.A. 22:48, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
DNCH
Hey John, man I hope you (or somebody!) can help me.
My name is Daniel Poirier, and I'm being literally shut out from this community (or is it a 'click'?). I've been trying to publish articles about my company (DNCH) and while I understand, to some degree, the validity and the reasons they are being deleted, decent protocol should stand to reason that some discussion should be initiated in regards to those deletions. Yet, here I wait feeling totally ignored by seemingly good folk there at Wikipedia.
If you or anyone you know is able to shed some light on this matter for me I would be indeed grateful.
What am i doing wrong? And how can I rectify it?
Thanks you for your time.
Daniel — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dzp111 (talk • contribs) 17:18, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- (replied on your talk page) JohnCD (talk) 18:13, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- Apparently, I was not supposed to go to sleep last night. </sarcasm> LadyofShalott 22:49, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- You have seen me on his talk page goaded into being, shall we say, less courteous than I would hope normally to be to a newbie. A really serious case of WP:IDIDNTHEARTHAT. JohnCD (talk) 22:56, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- Apparently, I was not supposed to go to sleep last night. </sarcasm> LadyofShalott 22:49, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Page deletion - Monash University Faculty of Information Technology Faculty
Dear John,
My name is Jared and work for Monash University. I noticed that you have deleted the page 'Monash University Faculty of Information Technology'. I was curious to know if I could see the page (before it was deleted) somehow? I realise it was a about a year ago (Feb 2010) but I would like to see it and revise the page.
Your help would be greatly appreciated.
Kind regards, Jmanster9 (talk) 02:52, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
- It was a copy of their website and full of PR-speak. More on your talk page. JohnCD (talk) 14:45, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
Dear John,
Many thanks for your detailed reply.
Kind regards, Jmanster9 (talk) 02:29, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
Despair_souls
Despair souls shouldn't be deleted and should not because it is a insppiration for all musician and music lover.Despair souls help other musician to know which way we work and fans also love to see our information.So this page also important for our fans and music lovers and musicians.
I request to the administration don't delete this page i had created known as despair souls.And i'm still updating that page...need some time.
my yahoo mail is: pritomkaysar@yahoo.com
- No, sorry, I've explained on our talk page about WP:BAND, and anyway you shouldn't be writing about yourself and your own band. Make them a page on Myspace. JohnCD (talk) 14:43, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
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whoops i didnt know sorry! Saturn star (talk) 20:16, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
I was going to prod this, but then thought it should be merged with the University article. No idea how to do this (especially with a pic...), or even if I'm allowed to. Help? I posted this first to JamesBWatson, but he seems to have gone off now. Peridon (talk) 20:25, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
- I should PROD it for notability, it doesn't look as though it would be a particularly exciting addition to the University article. Explain gently to the newbie author. JohnCD (talk) 20:32, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
- Done. I tried to be nice. Peridon (talk) 20:47, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
Thanks again
Thanks for responding to help tag on real estate talk page - another lesson for me, cheers Manytexts (talk) 21:45, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
Recent bad page move and bad speedy deletion of graph canonization
See Talk:Graph canonization for a discussion concerning your recent actions. —David Eppstein (talk) 01:04, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
- Replied there. JohnCD (talk) 10:58, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
Isabel ferch Gruffudd
Dear John,
Thanks for your message. Having read the guidelines I see that it's a fair enough deletion. It was Isabel's husband who was involved with Owain Glyndwr, rather than Isabel herself, which leaves her primary notability as being genealogical - it is from her that the Mostyn family of Mostyn, Flintshire trace their descent from Glyndwr's lineage. I suspect that may not go far enough to justify inclusion in Wikipedia. Do let me know if you think otherwise. Ynyrhesolaf (talk) 18:20, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
- Well, the ultimate test is the WP:GNG: can you show "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject" about her, as distinct from her husband? From what you say, probably not. If you think that people might search on her name, maybe a redirect from that to her husband's article would be the way to go. JohnCD (talk) 19:09, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
Egbok mission
Why did you delete EGBOk Mission? Is there a reason why a charitable organization cannot be listed? Also, do you work for wikipedia? I thought this site was user generated. What gives you the power to delete certain articles? Any insight would be appreceiatd. I have seen other charities and companies listed just curious why ours cannot be.
Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.238.192.8 (talk) 21:04, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
- The reasons were explained on the talk page of user Bryanjustus1 (talk) who submitted the article - it was too promotional, it read like the mission's brochure, all in the first person: "we engage students and motivate them... We constantly encourage service... Our tourism trips bring curious students..." That is an advertisement, not an encyclopedia article, which requires a neutral point of view, and Wikipedia is specifically not for promotion of any kind. In fact, now that I check, I see it was actually copied from the organization's website, which would also have been cause for immediate deletion - we cannot accept copyright text unless a formal legal release is made, which is seldom worth doing because material written for other purposes is not often suitable.
- Also, it gave no indication that the organization meets Wikipedia's requirement of notability, which is not a matter of opinion but has to be demonstrated by showing "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject."
- These links may help to explain things:
- No, I am not an employee of Wikipedia: it doesn't have any, everyone is a volunteer. Wikipedia is run by the community of its users and editors (those two terms mean the same) according to standards they have agreed. A few hundred of us are "administrators" who the community has trusted with some extra tools, including the ability to delete unsuitable articles, not on our own whim but according to defined criteria.
- If, having read those links, you think you can write an acceptable article about the mission, you are very welcome to. You will need to register an account, you can use the WP:Article wizard to help you, and advice is available at the WP:Help desk. JohnCD (talk) 22:04, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
Set It Off (Strafe)
Hello John, I'm just trying to update some information about Strafe. I'm confuse as to why I can't post his bio. This is his office that is posting informtion about him. Maybe you can explain how I need to post his bio. I know I originally had our website at the bottom and I also had the date we revised the bio, I did remove it. I'm thinking I should have removed those items before posting. Please advise me what I should do to repost his information. Also can you please explain what facebook have to with posting Strafe bio. on wikiepida. (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Strafe/283309375347?v=info)
Thank you, Sharon T — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ms.Sharon T (talk • contribs) 01:46, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
- I'm afraid you have not understood what Wikipedia is. It is not another site like Facebook or Myspace for people to post their own promotional bios; it is a project to build an encyclopedia, which is something quite different. See User:JohnCD/Not a noticeboard.
- As you represent Strafe, you have from our point of view a conflict of interest in writing about him - see WP:Autobiography for why that is strongly discouraged and WP:BESTCOI for the restrictions you would need to observe if you want to proceed. More advice on your talk page later; meanwhile look at WP:Your first article.
- The Facebook reference is because the same information appears on that Facebook page labelled "Facebook © 2011". Copyright can give Wikipedia serious legal problems; we cannot accept copyright text on the basis that someone on the end of a wire says it's OK. It is necessary for the copyright holder to make a formal release as described at WP:Donating copyrighted materials. But that is not usually worth doing because material written for other purposes is usually too promotional and doesn't show the necessary significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources. JohnCD (talk) 18:28, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
Hi JohnCD
Please undelete the above-captioned encyclopedia entry. The group was the subject of a full-length article in The New Yorker, an article that was cited in the entry. I believe I created the article, and wasn't notified of its nomination for deletion. If (despite its obviously meeting GNG) you find the topic is not clearly suited to inclusion in article space, please userify it for me.
Regards, Bongomatic 14:35, 5 February 2011 (UTC) Should you wish to reply, please do so here. I will watch this page for a few days, so no {{talkback}} or other comment on my talk page is required.
Done - userfied to User:Bongomatic/Van Dykes. As it stood, the one-sentence article didn't make the "credible assertion of importance or significance" required to pass A7, particularly as the only reference was behind a paywall. I have found and substituted a non-paywall link to the New Yorker article, and it looks as though there is an article there, though it needs at least a sentence or to to say why they were significant, and preferably more references. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 15:06, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
- WP:ORG and WP:GNG don't require "assertion" of notability, and in any case, a reference is a (perhaps backhanded) assertion of meeting the guidelines. Thanks for taking the time to find the non-paywall version of the article (which, as I noted on the talk page, exceeds 6,000 words—200x some editors' idea of the appropriate threshold for "significant coverage"). Regards, Bongomatic 15:19, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
Speedy tag
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Thanks for the action at User:Shashankmani!! Didn't know what deletion criteria that fell under, so now I know. Thanks for the effort and keep up the good work! LTC b2412 Troops Talk 05:58, 6 February 2011 (UTC) |
- Thank you, but I am a little embarrassed by this barnstar because, actually, that G2 deletion was just slightly dodgy, and you shouldn't take it as a precedent. Generally, a good deal of latitude is allowed for user pages, and unsuitable ones normally have to be dealt with by WP:MfD (apart from G10 attack, G11 advertisement or G12 copyright pages). WP:FAKEARTICLE is a valid objection, but not a speedy reason. It was just that in this case the page was (a) a straight copy of an article, (b) untouched for six months, and (c) the user's only-ever edits; so I decided that I could use G2 test page ((with a sprinkling of WP:IAR) to speedy it. There is good advice about speedy tagging at WP:10CSD and WP:A7M. JohnCD (talk) 11:22, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
- Well I looked everywhere, and it was sort of the same way to me. I couldn't delete under this that or the other, so I called in a more experienced administrator. I don't deal with deletions, I just happened to find that page thru a link from an image that was formerly on that page. I guess in this case the barnstar is more being bold and giving guidance rather than just guidance. I plan to help deal with conflict resolution, and work on articles i'm interested in or other contributions. Anyways, the barnstar is for your guidance, boldness, and experience. :) LTC b2412 Troops Talk 20:36, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you anyway! JohnCD (talk) 20:55, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
- Well I looked everywhere, and it was sort of the same way to me. I couldn't delete under this that or the other, so I called in a more experienced administrator. I don't deal with deletions, I just happened to find that page thru a link from an image that was formerly on that page. I guess in this case the barnstar is more being bold and giving guidance rather than just guidance. I plan to help deal with conflict resolution, and work on articles i'm interested in or other contributions. Anyways, the barnstar is for your guidance, boldness, and experience. :) LTC b2412 Troops Talk 20:36, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
Waste Management
I no longer need the recent sandbox i created at User:Buster7/Sandbox/Palin skerfuffle. can you get rid of it???? Was this the correct manner in which to create a rather lenghthy edit off article site and the cut and paste to the article??? In this case it was Talk:Sarah Palin. thanks for the help.Buster Seven Talk 20:41, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
- There doesn't seem to be anything at that title, but you can always get rid of any of your own user pages by putting {{db-userreq}} or {{db-u1}} at the top - the next passing admin will delete it. Yes it's fine to use a sandbox to prepare stuff and check it out before copying and pasting it to where you want it, I do it all the time. JohnCD (talk) 20:53, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
Zach Torp page
It was a page about a rising athlete and a friend of mine. I made this site for a wikipedia project in college. I see no reason for its deletion and i expect a response if not the reopening of the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mturner5 (talk • contribs) 23:16, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry, but being a rising athlete is not enough for a Wikipedia article - see WP:NSOCCER for the notability standard for soccer players; and before writing about your friend, you should read WP:COI. JohnCD (talk) 10:00, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
Burkett Restaurant Equipment & Supplies
Hello. The entry was not meant to be a form of advertisement by any means. I just took the information off of our About Us section of our website. Please let me know what can be done to rectify this issue. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SwitchTup (talk • contribs) 20:32, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
- I'm afraid you have completely misunderstood what Wikipedia is: it is a collaborative project to build an encyclopedia, it is not a place for companies to post copies of their websites; and if you think that "friendly and knowledgeable staff... dedicated Customer Service team... unique refurbishing process... Benefits of Shopping with Burkett... Earn Burkett Bucks with every purchase..." is not "a form of advertisement", I'm not sure we are on the same planet. I will post some more information on your talk page soon, but start with User:JohnCD/Not a noticeboard and WP:Conflict of interest. JohnCD (talk) 21:00, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
Y are you deleting those black scientist pages that not right
thats messed up —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.192.14.115 (talk) 22:32, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
- What pages do you mean? JohnCD (talk) 22:35, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
Sausages
I've REPLIED!!!!111(sic) Chzz ► 11:32, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
Scéno Plus (Business/Organizations Categorie)
Dear John,
I wrote a very concise description of the company called Scéno Plus. I'm in conflict of interest so I decided to be very brief before going any further. I guess you would remember that you already post comments on my talk page and you gave me some tips to make my article more encyclopedic.
Founded in 1985, Scéno Plus is a Montreal-based entertainment design firm. It specializes in the design of cultural and recreational venues such as multidisciplinary spaces, small creative studios, circus theatres, concert halls, large-capacity theatres, cinemas, convention centres, event centres and multipurpose halls. The firm provides five integrated services: architecture, theatre design, interior design, technology and specialized equipment as well as multimedia immersion and interactivity.
http://livedesignonline.com/mag/show_business_fit_queen/
http://fohonline.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2503&Itemid=1
Let me know what you think. Thank you John. Charles TD (talk) 19:42, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
- I'm out of time - comment tomorrow. JohnCD (talk) 22:39, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
- Looks OK to me - since you have independent sources for them, you could maybe add mention of some of their projects. Given your COI, the thing to do now is propose the article at WP:Articles for creation, mentioning your interest; either it will be accepted or you will be given more feedback. JohnCD (talk) 22:51, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
Jorts Day
I see that you have recently deleted the page "Jorts Day". Jorts Day is a day that an Organization is looking to start up so it would be appreciated if you would let the page remain intact. Have a nice day!! :) Tannerb41465 (talk) 23:33, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry, but Wikipedia isn't for helping to promote new things - an encyclopedia only reports on things that are already established. See Wikipedia is not for things made up one day, especially the section on Scrabble. JohnCD (talk) 10:24, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
Global Collect page content
Dear John, I've written a (new) page for GlobalCollect.
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Can you approve this page of send me some feedback, if required?
Thanks a lot!
Best regards,
Mark — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marky555 (talk • contribs) 14:28, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- Tomorrow! JohnCD (talk) 22:54, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
Antoni Robinson
I am not sure why you deleted this page? I was still updating this (fairly new to creating pages on Wikipedia) - you have said that it isn't important but it is the first instance of two daughters being convicted of murdering their father in the UK for decades.
Was it my dodgy editing? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Northwales4u (talk • contribs) 15:47, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- Nothing wrong with your editing, it's the subject. Sensational is not the same as encyclopedically notable. This crossed with explanation on your talk page. JohnCD (talk) 15:52, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
Speedy
Hi John,
I don't want to take the matter up again. The problem I had was with the incorrect regeneration of the page when it became notable, which was also encouraged by a fellow admin. As far as I'm aware the best pratice is to ask who ever deleted it to restore it. It has not happened thus far and one of you fellow admins is partly responsable for the mess and should be aware of the protocles and didn't follow it. Happy editing KnowIG (talk) 18:32, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
Humanzee (band)
Why did you delete my band page Humanzee (band), when I requested time to update the article and add pics and hyperlinks? I requested time to do this and it was deleted within minutes. Have I fell foul of some kind of ludicrously tight censorship procedure? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamesarpc (talk • contribs) 13:47, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
- No, what you have fallen foul of is the fact that, as an encyclopedia, Wikipedia is selective about its subjects (unlike, say, Myspace); it only covers things that are already established. The standard is called notability and what that means for bands is explained at WP:BAND. From what you wrote, it's clear that Humanzee, who were only formed this year and "are currently working on new material", are nowhere near that standard (yet), so there is no point letting you waste time on adding to the article. See WP:Your first article for more advice. JohnCD (talk) 13:58, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
Ishq Bector page deleted
Hi John
This is Rukmini from India.
I was trying to make a wiki page for my client but it got deleted immediately. Apparently it falls in the A7 category. The artist is well known in India and Canada and has a big fan following.
He has also acted in some Indian movies and made television appearances.
Please help out with the current issue of deletion.
Regards, Rukminikunjithai (talk) 14:24, 10 February 2011 (UTC)Rukmini Kunjithai