User talk:Andrwsc

Template:Army

Any idea why this template isn't working in the infobox for Antonio Todde? PC78 (talk) 20:45, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

 Fixed — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 23:11, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! PC78 (talk) 06:41, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

ANI

I can see it looks like renaming via the back door, but it is actually not a realistic proposal. I ran the numbers when someone - xeno I think suggested that on my talk page - and was not surprised by the result. Making very liberal assumptions it would take 25 years (and eight months) for SmackBot to rename {{Flagicon}} - more realistically much much longer. Rich Farmbrough, 00:33, 22 October 2010 (UTC).

That's not the only template. On September 3, in the middle of an AWB run, you saw {{noflag}} used a lot and decided that you liked {{No flag}} better. You moved the template and immediately added a rule to AWB and starting substituting your preferred wiki markup. That template is used on ~1700 pages, so WP:Requested moves would have been more appropriate instead. You also added this rule to SmackBot (for example, [1]), which I am dead certain wasn't approved for your bot. I believe that imposing your own markup style using a semi-automated tool is clearly tendentious and must stop. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 02:33, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Olli Petra

Hi there, you might want to comment on the abovementioned AfD since you've been involved in past discussions on YOG notability. Thanks ANGCHENRUI _WP:MSE♨ 12:38, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Hi

Hi, 2010 Asian Games official website is using the olympic flag for Kuwait, is it possible to add an olympic flag version to Template:Country data Kuwait ? --Mohsen1248 (talk) 17:26, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

No, it should only be added to Template:Country flag IOC alias KUW, which you did. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 05:06, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

ok but what about team sports like Football, Basketball and etc, which one is better ?  Kuwait, Kuwait or simply Kuwait ? --Mohsen1248 (talk) 09:40, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

I would say the first choice might be best. Certainly there needs to be an explanation why the Olympic flag is shown instead of Kuwait's national flag, and Kuwait at the 2010 Asian Games would be a more logical place to describe the IOC's suspension of the Kuwait Olympic Committee, rather than a redundant (and out-of-place) paragraph in each of the national football/basketball/etc. team pages. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 16:35, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

thanks, It sounds logical. --Mohsen1248 (talk) 01:14, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

2012 Summer Olympics national flag bearers

Just for my own personal knowledge, and future reference....please explain why it had to be deleted? Someone will have to recreate all that hard work. CTJF83 chat 23:14, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Nobody has to recreate anything; administrators have a handy "undelete" button that restores all editing history, with full attribution to the original author per GFDL. But in the meantime, existence of the link make the {{2012 Summer Olympics}} template behave awkwardly from the 2012 Summer Olympics article. Clicking on the blue link returns you right back to the same article, courtesy of the redirect, which could be confusing. A red link (such as we already have for several other articles in that template) is actually better. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 23:19, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

How is an IP who recreates the page suppose to know it was already created, and that they can just ask an admin to restore the old version and save them a lot of time recreating? CTJF83 chat 05:00, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

An IP can't create a page. I have the page on my watchlist, so if an established editor creates it again in June/July 2012, for example, I'll see that and can restore all earlier revisions for GFDL. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 05:22, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Ok, thanks, CTJF83 chat 18:11, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

on wiki page: Arabian Gulf rugby union team

Isnt's the name Persian Gulf the worldwide accepted name for this place since many centuries before until now? Why do you change this name intentionally? Is it legal to change an officially accepted name for a place? Please correct your mistake. —Preceding unsigned comment added by RealisticWikier (talk • contribs) 15:01, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

There is no mistake. Whereas the body of water is most commonly known as the Persian Gulf, the organisation clearly and unambiguously self-identifies as the Arabian Gulf Rugby Football Union per http://www.agrfu.com/, so that's the name we use for it on Wikipedia. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 19:43, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

This is not a sensible reason for justifying that, cause the word Arabian Gulf actually is intended to refer to a physical place and is not a fantasy region; For example in case of Gulf of Mexico if some day Cuba calls it Gulf of Cuba and uses that name for naming an organization,do you still will have the same idea about it? Thanks for your response to my previous message.

A better analogy would be as follows: if a "Gulf of Cuba Rugby Football Union" organisation met our general notability guidelines, then that's the name by which it would appear in Wikipedia. The name of the Gulf of Mexico article is an independent matter, and would certainly remain unchanged per WP:COMMONNAME, since the name chosen by a specific sporting organisation to refer to itself would not have any significant effect on how the geographical feature is named. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 05:13, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

But what happens in reality is that the chosen name for this so-called sport union is an intentional name reflecting some intentional trends. More clue on proving this,is that it's a combined team including countries around the Persian Gulf region (Bahrain,Qatar,Kuwait,Oman,Saudi Arabia) but it was intentionally named Arabian Gulf. Another note, in title of article, the two first words start with capital letter and other next words start with lowercase letter (implicitly insisting the first two words)also happens the same in one point inside article. As my opinion, this violates Neutrality (in general). Finally,as you may know, this fake name (actually created after second half of 20th century) originates in Pan-Arabism.

Take it up at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Rugby union. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 15:50, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

This user - now calling himself by yet another name - is a persistent vandal. I call the place the Persian Gulf, but we are talking about the name of organisations here. I do NOT agree with the name "Arabian Gulf" (which is properly a name for the Red Sea), but then again nor do I agree with the use of the term "British" all the time.

Please see his sock puppet investigation here - Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Mmboed/Archive-MacRusgail (talk) 14:21, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

You might be mistaken. How you can be so certain and judge based on some ip addresses and say which ip address belongs to which user name without sufficient knowledge. I don't need to hide my identity and ip address. This is my only user name in Wikipedia and I haven't logged in since my last comment, until today ,when I browsed this page and saw your comment. I hope you think more reasonably and don't make such uncertain accusations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RealisticWikier (talk • contribs) 13:46, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Please help

Hi, I don't know if you are aware, but the East Timor article was subject to a vote whether to keep or change its name to Timor-Leste, you can verify it in the article's talk page. The first option won and so, per Wikipedia standards, all the national sporting teams of that country should also keep the name. The problem is that if I use {{fb|TLS}} it links me to a redirection, since the national football team article was named Timor-Leste national football team, instead of the correct East Timor national football team. Could you please fix it, since I don't know how to do it and I doubt I could get access to such documentations? I suggest you one of two alternatives: link it to East Timor national football team and put the name East Timor along with the flag or link it to the article with the flag and the name Timor-Leste goes with it, although no redirections are made, e.g.: USA team of football, Portugal footy team, etc. You also could use the two of them, since there are aliases in the East Timor's country data template. Thanks! Tibullus (talk) 21:19, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Certainly not. The name of the article about the team is not subject to the requested move for the country article. The team is known as "Timor-Leste" per FIFA at http://www.fifa.com/associations/association=tls/index.html so any requested move for that article ought to be made on its talk page, or at WT:FOOTY for discussion. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 03:31, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Hi again, I wasn't aware FIFA used that name, nevertheless thanks for clearing that out for me. I reverted the things I had changed, apart from the ones you already had reverted. I also noticed that the North Korea national football team has the Korea DPR name in it, so I guess it was a hasty decision of mine to move the page, sorry for that, no bad faith intended. Tibullus ^{call me} 02:32, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

None assumed! No worries, — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 17:10, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Country data templates

Indeed, I am somewhat confused by the documentation seeming to say that "shortname alias" can be used to shorten the displayed name of a country when the "alias" has to be named differently for purposes of disambiguation, and yet the {{flag}} template does not work this way (although {{flagcountry}} does). However, my changes removing the redirecting of {{Country data La Rioja}} to {{Country data La Rioja (Spain)}} are in line with policy to not redirect ambiguously-named pages to only one of several entities with equal claim to the name. Lexicon (talk) 16:52, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Yes, {{flag}} always displays the link exactly matching the input parameter to the template, whereas {{flagcountry}} displays the shortname alias value (if defined, different from alias). That's precisely why we need the two different templates. But I am more than a little surprised that you as an administrator would a) experiment on live templates without using a sandbox (since you are unfamiliar with these templates), and b) delete a redirect before you had changed its transclusions. Please be much more careful in the future. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 17:30, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

I'll be more careful in the future, but people experiment on live templates all the time. How many users do you think saw a messed up template in the time I was experimenting? I bet you're the only one, and that's just because you've got these things on your watchlist. And yes, I deleted the template prior to correcting the seven or so instances of its use. Again, I think everyone will survive. Lexicon (talk) 17:37, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Not true. You first deleted Template:Country data La Rioja at 16:16, which I quickly restored at 16:29 because it was in use. I left you a message at 16:33 and you started to update articles only at 16:54. Again, all of the disruption was completely preventable with a little care, thanks. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 20:22, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Women's Champions League category

Hey again, I just noticed that there is a category for the UEFA Women's Cup, since that competition was rebranded to UEFA Women's Champions League some time ago, so to keep things in accordance I would like to ask you to delete an existing category called Category:UEFA Women's Cup, in virtue of a new one (Category:UEFA Women's Champions League) that will include all the articles from that outdated category. Thanks again! Tibullus ^{call me} 15:30, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

You don't need an administrator's help for that. You can edit all the articles in the current category, replacing the name to the new category. When you are done, the old category will be empty and you can put {{db-c1}} in the category page. After four days, an administrator will delete the old category. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 04:27, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Request for comment: 2014 Asian Games

Hi, Andrwsc, i need your comment, since it cannot come together and become edit warring. Revision 1, Revision 2.

The question is, should article list down the sport? At least in 3½ years time, this not going to happen. Asian Games is not like Olympic Games, which Olympic Games need qualification while Asian Games is more just registration, go and play (for most sports). A link to Olympic sports is suitable enough?

Also, bad english consider as vandalism? I didn't get why this word appear. Hope you can comment for this. Thank you. --Aleenf1 11:57, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

Miss USA articles

Hi, Andrwsc

On Miss USA articles, are you going to remove subnational flag icons? --John KB (talk) 21:40, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

That would probably be a good idea, to be in compliance with the manual of style. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 21:42, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Under-19 cricket template

Hi, I noticed you altered the parameter on this template. If it's changed to 'age' it stops the template working for a number of countries so is it possible to keep it as was? Thanks Waterhogboy (talk) 16:48, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

No. In the flag template system, the "mw" parameter is used for men's/women's teams and "age" is used for under-xx teams. The correct solution is to adjust the respective country data templates (which I have done), not to twist the meaning of "mw" into something else. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 17:15, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Ah well fair enough! Well thanks a lot for sorting all that out and making the changes in the articles too. Much appreciated. Waterhogboy (talk) 07:31, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

I noticed a few teams for which this is still a problem, namely Jersey, Guernsey and Isle of Man. Would you be able to change the country data template for these so that I can link to Under-19 teams in the future. Thanks. Waterhogboy (talk) 18:50, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

Myanmar flag

Hi Andrwsc. I was creating medal tables and saw that the 1974 flag variant through Template:Country data Myanmar was not working with the {{MMR}} or {{MYA}} shorthand templates. I can't work out what's wrong at all. Is the "related1" interfering with it do you reckon? SFB 12:17, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

The shorthand templates do not support flag variations. Use the standard {{flag}} template, such as {{flag|Myanmar|1974}}. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 17:20, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

Ah, right. Do you have any idea if it is technically possible for them to support the variations? I imagine I am probably not the only person expecting or desiring such a feature. SFB 21:38, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

Well, I suppose they could, but why would we want to invent a second way of accomplishing the same thing, especially since it is far more obscure? {{flag}} is widely known, and results in more readable wiki markup, so that's why it is preferable to the shortcut templates. I know I prefer to write {{flag|Myanmar}} instead of {{MMR}}, even if I have to type 9 more characters. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 22:29, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

Fair enough then. Thanks for taking the time to satisfy my curiosity! SFB 00:00, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Ok, no worries! — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 16:41, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

deletion of Uiolentapneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosising

why was my page on Uiolentapneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosising deleted. it is a real word with a real meaning. the long string of characters is due to the legnth of the word and is not vandalism, can you please un-delete it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Samsam1993 (talk • contribs) 19:38, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

It it is a real word, then there will be mention of it in an external WP:reliable source. No source, no article. But even if it was, Wikipedia is not a dictionary, so it wouldn't merit an article on that basis either. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 19:41, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

You can try to edit this article to wikt:Uiolentapneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosising-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 20:37, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Help

Hi, Andrwsc, i need your comment, I have a problem with a user on Asian Winter Games, especially because he can't discuss without personal attacks.

Source

The Japanese Olympic Committee will make a formal request that the cities of Sapporo and Obihiro bid to co-host the 2017 Asian Winter Games, sources said Tuesday. JOC President Tsunekazu Takeda, who received a request from the Olympic Council of Asia (OCA) to host the winter event, is scheduled to visit Sapporo on Dec 3.

The 2017 Asian Winter Games will be decided at an OCA general assembly at the 7th edition of the Winter Asiad being held in both Astana and Almaty, Kazakhstan, from Jan 30-Feb 6 next year.

is this enough to write Sapporo and Obihiro as the official host of 2017 Asian Winter Games on wikipedia ? --Mohsen1248 (talk) 20:46, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

{{Country data Côte d'Ivoire}}

Could you please adjust this template with the following to reflect the new title used in rugby articles as discussed on this talk page Talk:Ivory Coast national rugby union team

| link alias-rugby union = Ivory Coast

Cheers. --Bob (talk) 01:28, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

 Done (properly), but what a horrible consensus. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 18:12, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Fred Robson - First Welshman top play in Ryder Cup?

I noticed the little problem you've had with this. I wonder if this explains it. [2] Topcardi (talk) 15:51, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Hmm. I've been referring to http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/waleshistory/2010/05/welsh_ryder_cup_players.html, which says that "The first Welsh Ryder Cup golfer ... was Bert Hodson ... in the 1931 Ryder Cup", which would imply that Fred Robson in 1927 and 1929 wasn't Welsh. I don't really care, but either way, we need a reliable source. My issue is that the IP editor is making unreferenced changes without any discussion whatsoever, not even edit summaries. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 18:57, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Persian/Arabian Gulf

The note is on the article due to constant vandalism (at least once a month), and the fact that it is a loaded name. Personally I think the IRB should not have allowed the use of "Arabian Gulf", but it is not the only example of international insensitivity in rugby.--MacRusgail (talk) 16:57, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I know, that's why I have it on my watchlist. I don't really care what they call themselves, but the point is that this article should not be a WP:Content fork of the Persian Gulf naming dispute article. An article on this rugby football union should not have a reference to a book on "The Exodus itinerary sites: their locations from the perspective of the biblical sources" unless that book specifically mentions the rugby football union. At most there should be a link from the AGRFU article to the dispute article, and a single sentence summary of the linked article, which is what my edit has. I'm puzzled why you reverted my edit a couple of days ago, but restored it today. What version do you support? — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 19:15, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

" this article should not be a WP:Content fork of the Persian Gulf naming dispute article." - Too late, it already is, if you haven't noticed. Whether or not the naming dispute is mentioned. Now one of the articles has an even more bizarre name. I've had to revert vandalism on this and related articles DOZENS of times. I believe that the vandalism is the work of one or two editors and that Dr Persi is probably the new name of one of them. Really the pages need to be semi-protected.

Personally I think the solution is to split the articles (where possible) into "rugby union in [individual state]". I believe that AGRFU is being disbanded anyway.--MacRusgail (talk) 13:30, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Template:Country data Northwest Territories

Hello again. Could you please perform the edit request I have made to Template talk:Country data Northwest Territories. I don't know why it has stood for two days, this is much longer than I have had to wait before. Thanks, 117Avenue (talk) 02:17, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Template:ISO 3166 name DE-HB

Now relisted here. Thanks! Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 17:56, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, I shall post messages to draw more attention to the discussion. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 18:17, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

How can i help You?

I wanted to make up for any sore feelings by doing chores for You. Warmest Regards, :)—_thecurran Speak your mind ^{my past} 12:08, 16 February 2011 (UTC)