Wikipedia:Requested moves

Requested moves is the place to request and vote on article moves that are not straightforward, or that require the assistance of Wikipedia administrators. Normally, logged in users can do uncontroversial moves themselves using the [move] tab found at the top of every page (see Help:Moving a page for more information). However, sometimes this does not work because the target is already occupied (usually in the form of a redirect with a page history). In other situations a move may be controversial and will require discussion to reach a consensus.

Approval voting is encouraged for page moves requested on this page. Requested moves may be implemented if there is a Wikipedia community consensus (generally 60% or more) supporting the moving of an article after five (5) days under discussion on the talk page of the article to be moved, or earlier at the discretion of an administrator. The time for discussion may be extended if a consensus has not emerged.

What requested moves is not for

Before you begin note that requested moves is only for moving articles and sometimes templates. It is not the place for the following:

Unobstructed, uncontroversial moves

Moves of this nature can be accomplished by any logged in user using the [move] tab located at the top of every page. See Help:Moving a page.

Category move requests

To rename a category, list it at categories for deletion (yes, deletion).

Image move requests

To rename an image, reupload the image with the name you want, change the relevent links to reflect the new name, then list the old image at images and media for deletion.

Merge requests

To merge two articles, make a request at proposed mergers or be bold and do it yourself.

Cut and paste move fix requests

To request page histories to be merged, list them at cut and paste move repairs.

Steps for requesting a page move

(replace PageName with the name of the page to be moved and NewName with your proposed name)

I.	Add the request to the list on this page To aid the administrators, add a line with the day's date on it directly under the heading of the Current discussions subsection, if it has not already been added for this day. Today is June 20, 2024. ===[[date]] [[year]]=== To enter a request for a single page to be moved to a new name, add a line at the top of the section under the date line: * [[Talk:PageName]] – [[PageName]] → [[NewName]] – {reason for move} — ~~~~ A handy way to do this is to write the following on an empty line: {{subst:WP:RM|PageName|NewName|reason for move}} ~~~~ which will include all the necessary formatting (do not forget the "subst:"). For more complicated requests see #Multiple page moves for formatting suggestions. Include the page's name in your edit summary. Save this page.
II.	Add the move template to talk page. Enter the following text at the top of the talk page of the page you want moved: {{move|NewName}} If you want a page to be moved, but don't yet know what name it should be given, you can use {{moveoptions}} instead to indicate that there are several options to discuss.
III.	Create a place for discussion If one does not already exist, create a section on the talk page of the page you want moved for discussion. This can take any form that is reasonable for administrators to follow, but copying the following is suggested: ==Requested move== PageName → NewName – {reason for move} copied from the entry on the [[WP:RM]] page :''Add *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''' followed by an optional one-sentence explanation, then sign your vote with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>'' ===Discussion=== :''Add any additional comments'' If you are proposing that multiple closely related pages should all be moved for the same reason (see #Multiple page moves), it may be advisable to create this discussion on only a single talk page and provide links from the other talk pages to this centralized discussion. Please include "move proposal" or similar in the edit summary and don't mark it as minor. Consider checking the "Watch this page" box to follow the page in your watchlist. Save the page.

What to do on the article page

If the move you are suggesting is uncontroversial, for example, it is correcting spelling or capitalisation, update the article reflecting the title it should have (for example, the article is at My Dog but should be at My dog, change the opening sentence to '''My dog''' is furry.). The template CapitalMove is also available, see Category:Requested capitalization moves.

Current discussions

Please list new requests at the top of today's section (June 20) in the format described above. Actual discussions should take place on the listed talk page, not here.

February 28 2006

• [[Talk:Template:User cpp-1]] — Template:User cpp-1 → Template:User c++-1 – Template should be named User c++-1, as c++ is the correct spelling. — Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 08:17, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
• Talk:Chestnut Hill, Philadelphia - Chestnut Hill, Philadelphia → Chestnut Hill, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania - To put in line with other Philadelphia neighborhood related articles, would move my self, but can not mover over the redirect. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 05:28, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

• Talk:Justice League of America — Justice League of America → Justice League – Page was moved from latter without a reason. The page discusses all Justice Leagues of the past, not all of which were named Justice League of America. KramarDanIkabu 04:51, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
• * Talk:The pernice brothers – The pernice brothers → The Pernice Brothers – I created this page incorrectly capitalized, and would like to remedy this. However, I am too new to do so myself, and must thus use this page. — wilhelm 22:33, 28 October 2006

• Talk:Culture of Ancient Rus: Culture of Ancient Rus→Culture of Kievan Rus'—"Ancient" is an incorrect adjective for the medieval society usually called Kievan Rus' —Michael Z. 2006-02-28 01:51 Z

• Talk:Jack plug — Jack plug → Phone connector (audio/visual) – The term "jack plug" is specific to the UK and is rarely used elsewhere. In practice, a "plug" goes into a "jack." The (audio/visual) was added to the name to differentiate this connector from a standard telephone connector (RJ-11). The term "connector" was added to follow suit with other audio equipment pages (XLR connector, RCA connector). Please see Talk:TRS connector for further information. ICberg7 01:29, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

• Talk:5 HIAA – 5 HIAA → 5-hydroxyindoleacetic acid – {5-hydroxyindoleacetic acid is the IUPAC name for this chemical, which is the current accepted naming system, currently 5-hydroxyindoleacetic acid redirects to serotonin since 5-hydroxyindoleacetic acid is used to measure serotonin} — Mike _{(T C)} 01:42, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

• Talk: Severn (disambiguation) — Severn (disambiguation) → Severn – "(disambiguation)" in title seems unnecessary.
  -,-~^R'lyehRising~-,- 00:39, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

• Whole-board go openings to Fuseki because Fuseki is the technical term for this. Also Joseki has an article here, but Fuseki redirects to Go opening strategy, it is somewhat imbalanced... -- EmperorBMA|話す 01:51, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

• Rothari's_Edict - I saw a request for this article, but later I found a complete desciption

in Edictum Rothari. Could you move to the more complete article and delete my (very short) description? Thanx User:LorisRomito

February 27 2006

• Talk:L&h — L&h → Literary and Historical Society – change abrivation to full name Eoink 17:38, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Moved to Literary and Historical Society, University College Dublin with redirects currently as here. (L&H currently redirects to Lernout & Hauspie now a disambiguation page.) David Kernow 21:12, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

• Talk:Sacred Heart Parish Church in Fontana, Gozo - Sacred Heart Parish Church in Fontana, Gozo →Sacred Heart Catholic Church in Fontana, Gozo - {the article would be more accessible by having this church being referred to as a Catholic Church rather than as a Parish Church} --Gozomark 15:32, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
• Talk:Unfulfilled Historical Predictions by Christians — Unfulfilled Historical Predictions by Christians → Timeline of unfulfilled Christian Prophecy – Request for restoration of original page name (which has been the page name for a fairly long time) after a rash of random re-namings by a group of Christians who were offended by the name. -Harmil 16:43, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Clarification: this page cannot be moved back by a non-admin, or I would have done it myself. The original page name is now a redirect which has been edited since the rash of moves, and MediaWiki will no longer allow the rename back. -Harmil 22:10, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Update: The page has been moved again (perhaps with some moves between, I lost track). It is now at: Unfulfilled historical predictions by Christians. Can someone please end this madness? There is still no consensus, and no particularly cogent reason has yet been brought forth for a move in the first place. -Harmil 02:40, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

• Talk:Archduke Charles - Archduke Charles → Archduke Charles of Austria. Missing its country. Gryffindor 15:18, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
• Talk:Abol-Ghasem Kashani - Abol-Ghasem Kashani → Ayatollah Abol-Ghasem Kashani clerical title is missing. Gryffindor 15:07, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
• Talk:Germanization - Germanization → Germanisation - The article started out and was stable at Germanisation. Somebody decided to move the page without giving any reason. The move should be undone. SpNeo 14:00, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
• Talk:Heavy D - Heavy D → Heavy D & the Boyz - Uncontested move; makes sense as well-- because it is in Category:Hip hop groups, and Heavy D is just one member of the group.--Urthogie 08:57, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
• Talk:Kat B'jelland – Kat B'jelland → Kat Bjelland – apparent typo, no spelling with apostrophe in article, needs administrator assistance. Bjelland is a fairly common name, and I've never seen it spelled with a hyphen in either North America or Norway. — Gene Nygaard 07:13, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
• Ojamajo Doremi -> Magical DoReMi - The google hits for both are now equal. The latter is the English title and is becoming increasingly popular on the internet. WhisperToMe 04:59, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
• Talk:Sinŭiju Special Administrative Region - Sinŭiju Special Administrative Region → Talk:Sinuiju Special Administrative Region - Sinuiju Special Administrative Region It's inefficient to have a special character in a title. --68.78.150.251 04:35, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
• Talk:Battle of Albert (1914) — Battle of Albert (1914) → First day on the Somme – Botched page move. Original history for First day on the Somme is now in the wrong place. Content was just cut-and-pasted back to recreate the article. Geoff/Gsl 01:54, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
  • If you actually want a history move, it is unnecessary to move the article.Septentrionalis 04:26, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
    • Could you explain how to do that? Geoff/Gsl 20:42, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
• Talk:George Mikhailovitch of Russia — George Mikhailovitch of Russia → Prince Georg Michael of Prussia - Moving this is probably less "controversial" because his legal title is HRH Prince Georg Michael of Prussia (or Prince Georg of Prussia) since he only claims the title of Grand Duke through his mother, but since his mother wasn't a monarch in her own right, he would probably be titled Prince Georg of Prussia. His claim to the defunct Russian throne is contested anyway, since he's not a male-line grandchild. It could be mentioned in the article that he is a claimant and claims the titles of Tsesarevitch and Grand Duke of Russia. Morhange 02:36, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
• Talk:Defenceman (ice hockey) — Defenceman (ice hockey) → Defenseman (ice hockey) – Spelling should be consistant with North American spelling of Defense. See talk page of article for detailed reasoning and statistics on the usage of the various spellings. Jeff 15:14, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

February 26 2006

• [[Talk:Patty Berg (Politician) - [[Patty Berg (Politician) -> Patty Berg (politician) ---these are merely the same page and need to be moved. The one with the lower case p in politician is the proper page.

Appears to have been done. David Kernow 03:01, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

• Talk:The campden wonder — The campden wonder → The Campden Wonder – Title should be capitalized Mjpovey 00:00, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

• Talk:Von kaiser — Von kaiser → Von Kaiser – Supposed to be capitalized

• Talk:Elridgevile — Elridgevile → Eldridgeville – This is the correct spelling for the village in Toledo, Belize Revstani 20:36, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

These links are all red! Where is the article? Jonathunder 20:47, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

• Talk:Turin — Turin → Torino – Torino is the name preferred by many Italians and, due to the 2006 Winter Olympics, many English-speakers. The 2006 Winter Olympics have popularized the name "Torino" over the name "Turin" as the city was almost never referred to by the latter during the Games. joturner 19:28, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

• Talk:Ornithomimidae – Ornithomimidae → Ornithomimosauria – better reflects content of article — Dinoguy2 18:19, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

• Talk:Bart PE — Bart PE → BartPE – official and correct spelling

• Talk:weak nuclear force — weak nuclear force → weak interaction – to match the strong interaction -- Xerxes 18:33, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

February 25 2006

• Talk:List of HTML decimal character references — List of HTML decimal character references and List of HTML decimal character references Part 2 → Wikipedia:HTML decimal character references – seems to be a self-reference page in Wikipedia.--Hello World! 10:26, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

• Talk:Allstream — Allstream → MTS Allstream – The company has since changed its name to MTS Allstream Inc. CanuckGod 06:40, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

• Talk:Danish pastry — Danish pastry → Danish (pastry) – This pastry's name is "danish", not "danish pastry". Yath 06:06, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
• Talk:Redeemer — Redeemer → Bourbon Democrats – -- I'm no expert but I am wondering if this page should be renamed to Bourbon Democrats or Bourbon Redeemers. The name Redeemer seems pretty broad. The article itself states that this party was also known as Bourbon Democrats. Anyone, thoughts? James084 20:09, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

• Talk:Dr. Mario series — Dr. Mario series → Dr. Mario – I moved the original Dr. Mario article to Dr. Mario (video game). I want the "Dr. Mario" article (now a redirect) to be the main series page, and my move hopefully preserves the history prefectly. Hbdragon88 04:14, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
• Talk:Paragon (heavy metal band) — Paragon (heavy metal band) → Paragon (band) – no genre disambiguation needed Mattbrundage 03:49, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
• Talk:Islamic scholars — Islamic scholars → List of Islamic scholars – This article doesn't talk too much about what an Islamic scholar is. It is just a list. joturner 02:23, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
• Talk:720 Degrees — 720 Degrees → 720° – Proper title of article. -- Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 01:13, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

February 24 2006

• Talk:Andrés Nin - Andrés Nin → Andreu Nin - I tried to move the page myself but it was not possible, and I was directed here. I have already posted about name change on the discussion page and got positive feedback. The title of the article should be corrected, replacing "Andrés" by "Andreu". “Andrés” is the Spanish version of the Catalan name “Andreu”, and Nin was, after all, Catalan. The Catalan and Spanish versions of Wikipedia have the title entry with "Andreu", not with "Andrés". Even the Foundation of Nin, publishing its texts ins Spanish, is called "Fundación Andreu Nin" (see http://www.fundanin.org). Can you please move as well the Talk page with it (the contents in "Andrés Nin talk" to "Andreu Nin talk")?--Hvitlys 22:40, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

• Talk:Vested interests – Vested interests → Vested interest – Swap names of article and redirect to give article the singular name per standard usage. — Robert A.West (Talk) 22:30, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

• Talk:Huddersfield Examiner — Huddersfield Examiner → Huddersfield Daily Examiner – Duplication of articles. Inclusion of 'Daily' is the paper's official name. R.carroll 18:25, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

• Talk:Waterloo (English version) - Waterloo (English version) → Waterloo (song) - This is the only article on a song called "Waterloo" and "English version" lacks context -- MisterHand 16:33, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

• Talk:Dronning Maud Land — Dronning Maud Land → Queen Maud Land – Known as the latter to English-speaking people. David Kernow 15:09, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

• Talk:Protests against the Iraq war — Protests against the Iraq war → Protests against the Iraq War – Iraq War is capitalized nirvana2013 13:59, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

• Talk:Vilniaus Bankas – Vilniaus Bankas → AB SEB Vilniaus bankas – The bank's name has changed (2005 04 18), 'bankas' is also to be written in lowercase. — SimonasK 10:06, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

• Talk:Pithecanthropus erectus — Pithecanthropus erectus → Java Man – The article is about remains of a hominid found in Java, which is, AFAIK, universally called "Java Man". When it was first found, it was classified as Pithecanthropus erectus; after decades of debate, it is now Homo erectus. Since the article is about the skeleton, not an obsolete species classification, this should be at Java Man. Compare Peking Man or Piltdown Man. --Saforrest 07:59, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Old discussions

Place here discussions which have been active for more than 5 days. Remove them once dealt with.

Additional information needed

• Talk:Lombard language — Lombard language → Lombard dialects – No such thing as a lombard language (as all parties recognised), there is rather a family of dialects (or languages if you prefer). Common usage is "dialects". Orzetto 23:35, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Procedure for admins

See Wikipedia:Moving guidelines for administrators.

Additional notes

Multiple page moves

For single page moves with more than one option for the destination name:

• Talk:page to be moved -- page to be moved to new page or new page two etc -- {brief reason for move} -- ~~~~

For block moves:

• Talk:page to be moved -- page to be moved 1 to target page 1
  • ...
  • page to be moved n to target page n
  • {brief reason for move} -- ~~~~

An example of how to request to move a block of pages:

• Talk:The Levellers -- Levellers to Levellers (disambiguation)
  • The Levellers to Levellers
  • the word "The" should be removed from the Levellers page. -- ~~~~

Another example of how to request to move a block of pages:

• Talk:Third world -- First world to First World,
  • Second world to Second World and
  • Third world to Third World
  • This was a move made earlier in the year as a block move, after listing on this page because all three were blocked by edits to the target pages -- ~~~~

Relevant policies and guidelines

In discussing a page move, or making a move request, please consider following Wikipedia policies and guidelines:

• Wikipedia:Naming conventions
• Wikipedia:Proper names
• Wikipedia:Manual of Style
• Wikipedia:Disambiguation
• Wikipedia:Neutral point of view
• Wikipedia:Don't disrupt Wikipedia to illustrate a point
• Wikipedia:How to hold a consensus vote
• Wikipedia:WikiProject Rivers
  • If a river page is to be moved, add a mention of the move under Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Rivers/Naming#Requested_moves
• Wikipedia:WikiProject Numbers
  • If a number page is to be moved, add a mention of the move under Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Numbers#Requested moves
• Wikipedia:Naming conventions (names and titles)
  • If European monarchical titles or noble titles are involved, add a mention of the move under Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (names and titles)#Requested moves