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It was a good fight between Marit Bjørgen and Anna Olsson today in the Olympics. Mats33 (talk) 21:58, 17 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Do we need a Controversies section?

Observing the Polish press and forum comments as well as her competitor's Justyna Kowalczyk's media-carried comments[1] during the Vancouver Olympic Games 2010, I am aware of the issue being raised of her being an asthmatic who (perhaps unfairly) receives powerful medication which is otherwise strictly disallowed [2] and helps with breathing. At least her asthma should be mentioned. What do you think? --Mareklug ^talk 07:30, 26 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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About asthma medications

The asthma medication Salbutamol is only prohibited in the 2009 list, not in the 2010 list. The status of Salbutamol changed, beginning with 1st January 2010, and does no longer require special permission to use [3]. The wiki article says Salbutamol is prohibited, but only cites the 2009 list as reference. I changed it, but I see it was changed back, with no explanation of why, and still only the outdated 2009 list as source. Someone must explain why this was changed back, because as far as I can see the current info on the wiki page is incorrect. PrBalthazar (talk) 18:59, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

URGENT! The article about Marit Bjorgen, the section “Asthma medications” is fabricated to harm Marit Bjorgen. This article in Wikipedia is used as reference in a Swedish internet smear campain towards Bjorgen. All content and writing about the substance SALBUTAMOL need to be erased as there is no evidence whatsoever in the references in Wikipedia or elsewhere that Bjorgen has ever used it. Swedish Wikipedia has had the same problem and corrected the content today. Please the section as a whole instantly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ljg49 (talk • contribs) 19:59, 3 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

World Cup victories

Both norwegian and finnish wiki lists her victories as 39 (dated accurate as November 28), so it's wrong to mentioning only Välbe has more wins. Probably she will be the sole second within this season, but isn't yet. 82.141.117.133 (talk) 00:44, 29 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Asthma Medications

The section about asthma medications needs improvements. As it is written now, it consists of two parts. Both are discussing a medication that Bjørgen does not use.

The first part:

In the 2009/2010 season World Anti Doping Agency allowed Marit to use a stronger asthma medication (salbutamol) which is forbidden on the WADA doping List [1]. According to the Norwegian coach Egil Kristiansen her use of salbutamol was the main reason why she had improved so much for the season 2009/2010.[3][4] Bjørgen continued to use the medication over the olympics 2010 and was strongly criticized by Justyna Kowalczyk who accused her for doping.[5][6] Bjørgen claims that she would not have any advantage of the medicine unless she had asthma. In the new prohibited-list for 2010: "Salbutamol – a substance considered as specified and therefore more likely to result in a sanction of a warning to a two-year ban in case of anti-doping rule violations – will be permitted under 1,000 nanograms per millilitre..[7]"

The article that this section refer to does not confirm that Bjørgen uses salbutamol. In fact, she has later stated that she uses formoterol (Symbicort). General information about salbutamol is not of interest in this article.

The second part:

Bjørgen claim is however completely contradicted by results of clinical studies of salbutamol[8] in which 8 test subjects were performing cycling to exhaustion after taking salbutamol and placebo repeatedly. Time to exhaustion has been consistently increased after salbutamol by as much as 30%. Only one out of 8 study participants did not show increased time to exhaustion compared to placebo. Nevertheless since 2011 WADA increases authorized usage of salbutamol up to 1600 nanograms per millilitre within 24h[9]

Again, she does not use salbutamol, this section is therefore irrelevant. In addition it is factually wrong. The study referred to in the section is a study where a much larger than normal dose is given to the test subjects. It is also administered orally, and not by inhalation. WADA only approves salbutamol when administered by inhalation. An oral administration is illegal. This study is therefore irrelevant when discussing WADA's approval of this medication.

This section shoud therefore be rewritten or removed.

Magnussh (talk) 22:20, 28 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

URGENT! The article about Marit Bjorgen, the section “Asthma medications” is fabricated to harm Marit Bjorgen. The article in Wikipedia is used as reference in a Swedish smear campain towards Bjorgen. All content and writing about the substance SALBUTAMOL need to be erased as there is no evidence whatsoever in the references or elsewhere that Bjorgen has ever used it. Swedish Wikipedia has had the same problem and corrected the content today. Please erase the section as a whole instantly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ljg49 (talk • contribs) 20:01, 3 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Controversy about medication is needed

I can see a consistent effort, probably from Bjørgen's team, to censor the information about asthma medication. Guys if you believe it is ok that she takes those medications then why you want to hide this information from the public?

I reintroduced the paragraph about the controversy in the first section since it is a brief summary of the person and controversy surrounding Marit Bjørgen is an essential part of the resume. I copied it here in case it is removed once more:

"At the same time, Marit Bjørgen stirs up controversy in the XC skiing world as her latest successes are often attributed to the performance-enhancing asthma medication that she is allowed to use but that is normally banned. ^[1]" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.198.145.150 (talk) 10:25, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have no connection to Bjorgen what so ever, and I am Swedish: URGENT! The article about Marit Bjorgen, the section “Asthma medications” is fabricated to harm Marit Bjorgen. This article in Wikipedia is used as reference in a comprehensive ongoing web smear campain in Sweden towards Bjorgen. All content and writing about the substance SALBUTAMOL need to be erased as there is no evidence whatsoever in the references or elsewhere that Bjorgen has ever used it. Swedish Wikipedia has had the same problem and corrected the content today. Please the section as a whole instantly. If this section is needed it needs to be rewritten from zero. BR

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