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Plan of Action

Have anyone has any plans or priorities ? I think first we will start with proper categorization and will add template education template to talk pages -- naveenpf (talk) 15:24, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have already created several new categories to organise the articles in the parent category. Are there any specific suggestions for creation of further categories. Shyamsunder (talk) 22:35, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Let me propose some priority which can be openly edited. Education-Importance (I hope this is available)

Institutions of Excellence (IIT IIM NIT IISc AIMS Kendriya Vidhalaya Navodhaya V. ) please fill up. Imp - High
Central univs and Nationally renowned colleges / school chains Imp - Med Ex:- Pondicherry Univs, XLRI, IIIT, DPS
State univs and Regionally renowned collegs/schools Imp - Med
Deemed Univs,Colleges Schools and left overs Imp - Low

Tasks

First task would be to tag all of them, so that we can identify article issues and then start fixing them.
Categorization. I hope this is available and we need to add articles which are not having them properly.
Templates for each category. Univ / Instituitions / Schools. I understand there are templates but are they india specific and uniform across articles?
Navboxes, Standard Content style? More Discussion on this required.
Update Tasks, Recruit People.

Thats all i can think for now. Srikanth (ping me) 16:36, 11 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

+1 ..Agree with logicwiki, let us start with tagging the articles--naveenpf (talk) 17:40, 11 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Education stub

There should be a stub for Indian education. That will be useful for non school and college and university artciles relating to indian education but. A few countries already have one. like Category:Japanese education stubs.Can someone please create one for India. Thanks Shyamsunder (talk) 07:42, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you. Okip 02:47, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please peer review Institute of Chartered Accountants of India

I have recently nominated Institute of Chartered Accountants of India for peer review. I humbly request you to peer review the article. R.Sivanesh ✆ 09:04, 20 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hello and invitation to help

Hi there. I didn't know about this WikiProject, and as it seems I edit much about the subject, and I was invited, I though I'll join. So, hello fellow editors. My current "big" project is to redo List of universities in India. I added a lead listing the types of universities, and I am going one by one according to UGC lists and other official lists and adding/correcting. My intention is to get this list to FL. It's much work, and everyone is invited to help. --Muhandes (talk) 07:00, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nice article to start with. I am in --naveenpf (talk) 07:11, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nice plan, i am in too. - abhi (talk) 08:47, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest you pick a state and go over the lists of central, state, deemed and private universities (all linked at the top) and make sure they are all listed. Also remember to replace the external link with a proper source. You can see what I started to do for Andhra Pradesh and Sikkim.

List of Indian institutions of higher education

Muhandes, our long-term goal should undoubtedly be to cover all the notable Indian institutions of higher education, shouldn't it? We are not far away from doing that. We already have the lists of institutions of higher education in many states/cities. I've mentioned some of them that I found through search below.

Like List of American institutions of higher education, the lead list will have:

Link to List of universities in India which will include only the universities.
Links to Lists of Institutions of higher education in each States, union territories The shorter city lists can be merged into the state lists.
Links to special lists

According to subject areas

Indian Institutes of Technology or we could start a separate List of Indian Institutes of Technology or Comparison of Indian Institutes of Technology which will have and compare the vital statistics of all the IITs. Statistics like number of research papers published in some renowned journals
List of NITs
List of IISERs
List of IIMs
List of Business schools in India This is a category but deserves a separate list article.
Category:Economics schools in India perhaps deserves a separate list article or links to categories too are fine
List of law schools in India
List of agricultural institutions in India
List of medical colleges in India may also include institutions in Category:Schools of medicine in India
List of Ayurvedic Colleges in India
Category:Drama schools in India
Category:Journalism schools in India perhaps deserves a separate list article or links to categories too are fine
Category:Hospitality schools in India perhaps deserves a separate list article or links to categories too are fine
List of optometry schools in India
List of colleges of music in India
List of dental colleges in India
Film schools in India
Fashion schools in India
List of maritime colleges in India
List of aerospace engineering schools in India
Many other lists from Category:Universities and colleges in India and Category:Universities and colleges in India by type

General

Link to Institutes of National Importance
Any very important list/statistics/information regarding all the higher institutions of India combined.
What else?

The major work will be in setting up the state lists like List of educational institutions in Himachal Pradesh (actually it should be List of institutions of higher education in Himachal Pradesh because we are not considering primary schools!). Here is how we can do this
1. Start the state lists.

1. Transfer the state tables we have at Colleges and institutes in India and List of universities in India‎ to the respective state lists.

2. Transfer existing shorter city/district lists to the state lists

3. Put links to longer city/district lists

2. Start the special lists if they don't exist already

1. Use the categories mentioned above to fill these special lists

3. Start the lead list at List of Indian institutions of higher education

1. Put the links to all the lists mentioned above

4. Start a navbox at Template:List of Indian institutions of higher education

Here are some of the lists that we will link to, from the lead article. The shorter city lists can be merged into the state lists.

And there are many other lists waiting to get classified. Folks, let's overdo this. – ∃ Aditya 7 ¦ 16:39, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Noble cause, but one at a time.

Also, I think the discussion of broader article should be moved to the Wikiproject, this talk page is supposed to be for the page List of universities in India. --Muhandes (talk) 17:30, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Aaditya, you have defined the mission of WP:INEI here :-) .. we will move this to talk page of WP:INEI if you agree --naveenpf (talk) 18:01, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, you can copy it to Wikipedia:WikiProject Education in India. :-) – ∃ Aditya 7 ¦ 18:13, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Aditya, the Gazette you have mentioned is only about reservation, and it just defines which all institutes it is applicable to and which all institutes are an exception to it. On page two it defines a broad category "Central educational institutions" which includes all deemed universities, all institutes of nations importance, all universities under UGC etc. And 'Institutes of Excellence' listed in the schedule are exempted from reservation. IMHO, we cannot relate it to equivalence to university.

As for statuses, I think any institute which awards a bachelor or masters degree can be regarded as (or equivalent to) a university. By this definition IITs, NITs and also IISERs can be considered as universities but IIMs, which award Post Graduate Diplomas, are not. Let me know what you guys think. - abhi (talk) 03:33, 28 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Having said this, its also a fact that internationally IIM PGP programs are compared with other MBA programs from other B-Schools. Uptill last year Financial times listed IIMA on its Master in Management programs (FT Ranking 2010), but this year it has listed IIMA under MBA programs (FT Ranking 2011). So the status can be debated. - abhi (talk) 03:48, 28 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Have a look at the article: Colleges and institutes in India. The list is absurd. I agree that we should have a listing of all the institutes, but trying to get it to fit into a single article is stupid when we can have sevaral smaller easily managable lists as said above. The single article to list all institutes should have links to all these articles and not the entire list in itself. This article should either be deleted or converted to something managable. Discussion on the same is welcome on its Talk Page.--Siddhartha Ghai (talk) 21:18, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

State Lists Format

I propose standardising the format for the state lists in order to avoid further duplication for lists.

List name:List of educational institutions in statename(This is the current format being followed)

Sections:

==Universities==(List of universities in statename redirects to this section)

===Central===(List of Central universities in statename redirects here)

===State===(List of state universities in statename redirects here)

===Private===(List of private universities in statename redirects here)

===Deemed===(List of deemed universities in statename redirects here)

==Colleges==(List of colleges in statename redirects here)

===Engineering===(List of engineering colleges in statename redirects here)

This subsection may link to the list of engineering colleges affiliated to the state technical university/other universities and list only those that aren't listed elsewhere

===Business===(List of business schools in statename and List of management colleges in statename redirect here)

This section may be named "Management" instead

===Academic===(List of academic colleges in statename redirects here)

This section can contain the colleges offering BA/MA/B.Com/M.Com/B.Sc/M.Sc etc. If possible, it should give link to the university-wise list of such colleges and list only those that aren't listed elsewhere

===Teacher Training===(List of Teacher Training Institutes in statename redirects here)

==Autonomous Institutes==(List of autonomous educational institutes in statename redirects here)

This section contains all such institutes that award their own degrees but aren't listed by the ugc as universities. This would include IITs, IIMs, IIITs, NITs, IISERs, IISC, AIIMS etc.

==See Also==

This section should contain links to List of universities in India, List of Indian institutions of higher education, any city-wise lists of cities in the state, and List of Schools in statename(If it exists)

Overall, I think the article should list all UGC-listed universities, but since college listings might become too long, they should be links to university-wise lists as far as possible to keep the state-article small and readable, and to avoid duplication of huge lists.--Siddhartha Ghai (talk) 09:01, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Obvious suggestion: "List of higher educational institutions in <state>", or you need to list every single school.

Since we already have a complete (and hopefully well maintained) List of universities in India, isn't listing the universities again a bit redundant? How about something like this instead:

In Uttar Pradesh there are four Central universities, 23 state universities ten deemed universities and 15 private universities.

--Muhandes (talk) 12:18, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Agree with obvious suggestion. As for universities, wouldn't such linking convert the state lists to mostly links like List of Indian institutions of higher education? Also, I've suggested a separate section for the autonomous institutes, but these may/may not be listed at List of universities in India. So what do you suggest we do for the overlapping ones? Also, where do we redirect List of autonomous educational institutes in statename?--Siddhartha Ghai (talk) 15:10, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You have a point. Giving it a second thought I think my idea wasn't that good. On one hand I don't like doing the same work twice, yet on the other hand I see how listing all institutes in the state articles serves the reader better. Also, probably "List of higher education institutions in <state>", I'm not sure what I meant by "higher educational institutions" --Muhandes (talk) 15:17, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Siddhartha, that's a nice format; but it would be better if we better subclassify in the "Colleges" section, according to university, instead of a random listing. Lynch 7 08:53, 6 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thats a good idea. We can go something like:

==Colleges==

*[[List of colleges affiliated to xyz university]] - This article lists all colleges affiliated to xyz university. These colleges specialize in fields a,b,c.

...

And then if any colleges are left:

Apart from these, the state also has:

list of colleges(maybe with their specializations and universities mentioned)

I don't think there are universities in India that give affiliation across states, so we should have no problem linking to the university-wise lists.

But where will we redirect List of engineering colleges in statename, List of business schools in statename etc, since there may be more than one university affiliating a particular type of colleges in a state.--Siddhartha Ghai (talk) 10:58, 6 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nice proposal siddhartha...i think we shoould also seperate the technical universities and other universities. because this year some more universities are added..and we also should add some pages regarding profiles of universities... (talk)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Education in India#Structure

The abovenamed section on the project page remains empty. I think the section should give a basic outline for sections to be made on education in India related articles, or it should at least give a link to a page giving such information. This would be very helpful in standerdizing the look and feel of the articles under the project.

For Example: A college article could have sections on academics, infrastructure etc. But academics may be replaced by Programs/Programs Offered/Courses/Courses Offered Infrastructure may be replaced by Facilities or be divided into entire sections on hostels, entertainment facilities and what not.

The same can be thought for schools, universities etc. Although we probably need consensus for doing this, but it would greatly decrease the task at hand as at least the new articles would be standardized. --Siddhartha Ghai (talk) 20:52, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

User:WolterBot Cleanup Logs are Outdated

It is rather shocking that clean-up listings are a year old. I read here that we need such a template put on the main page. I am not very sure how this works, but would like to consult others regarding this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rahulghose (talk • contribs) 06:54, 23 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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 But where will we redirect ''List of engineering colleges in statename'', ''List of business schools in statename'' etc, since there may be more than one university affiliating a particular type of colleges in a state.--[[User:Siddhartha Ghai|Siddhartha Ghai]] ([[User talk:Siddhartha Ghai|talk]]) 10:58, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
+Nice proposal siddhartha...i think we shoould also seperate the technical universities and other universities. because this year some more universities are added..and we also should add some pages regarding profiles of universities...
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