User talk:Useddenim

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Colours

I notice that you have changed a large number of the hex colour values for the London Underground and other TfL services. Where have you obtained your new values from? --Redrose64 (talk) 15:35, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

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Flyer 800

See my reply to your comment on my talk page. SJ Morg (talk) 02:08, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

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MT/MiWay

The Mississauga City Centre Transit Terminal is one of the largest bus stations in the GTA, and you shuld be able to wikilink directly to that section header. I have fixed this by creating an article for the terminal and also restored the table format you previously created in MiWay. Secondarywaltz (talk) 16:27, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Well done. I will check my collection to see if I have any overall views of the previous terminal, and the original configuration of the present terminal. Useddenim (talk) 14:09, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Template:UTA color

I undid your changes because you broke UTA TRAX. Please be more careful in your editing in the future :). -- Admrboltz (talk) 17:45, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

I am generally bold, but template s are a bit out of my specialty... When you made the changes to the UTA color template, the UTA TRAX page showed all of your sample table, and none of the actual colors were showing correctly, just the code from the template page. Sorry. --Admrboltz (talk) 14:32, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

TTC Route Diagram Templates

Lots of good work with those. I will give them all a quick scan for any obvious discrepancies. Nobody's perfect.

You seem to like a challenge, so how about creating a detailed diagram of the TTC subway tracks between Bloor/Yonge, Bay, Museum, St. George and Spadina stations and removing that same non revenue information from what are supposed to be route diagrams. (See the Template:City Hall (IRT Lexington Avenue Line)) A stand-alone template would allow for a more thorough depiction, while removing misleading information from the main articles. The tracks may be there - but there is no service. A route diagram exists to support an article and provide a graphic representation of what is described there. When that diagram contains a large amount of superfluous information, rather than providing a better understanding of the article, it will often be confusing to the reader. You could forego the "underground" icons and use solid red and blue for the two different lines, since there are many kinds of crossovers and junctions already available. You probably know best. Thanks again. Secondarywaltz (talk) 19:35, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Glad to. However, I seem to have become embroiled in a tiff with Wiebevl (talk) and axp_de^Hello! who have taken exception to the icons I have created for the detailed track map. I have even been told "There's no need to have horizontally orientated parallel icons"! but I'm not sure that accurate track maps could be done without them (and it's my intention to do the entire network, as time permits). Useddenim (talk) 04:20, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

In your templates you seem to have got this idea that Dundas West subway station is related in some way to Bloor GO Station. The closest entrances are actually about 300 metres apart, a long hike on a winter's day, and about the same distance as between some entrances of different downtown subway stations. On the other hand, Exhibition and Longbranch TTC loops are adjacent to the GO Stations of the same name. Secondarywaltz (talk) 20:43, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

TTC on-line maps show a connection, so I put it in. It won't bother me if you think they don't belong and want them edited out. Useddenim (talk) 23:04, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Dundas West station is how you get there, but drawing the box around it represents an integration that does not exist. Secondarywaltz (talk) 02:21, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

I think I've got the Woodbine Loop now - with a more appropriate minimal look. Secondarywaltz (talk) 02:21, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Central line RDT

As someone who put a lot of time in on this RDT I have to say that your tweaking is interesting. I have two minor concerns. First, be careful of the width: the RDT can take over an article if you do not do this. I think that since the diagrams have been separate rather than an integral part of the article some editors forget to watch this.

Personally, I'm not wild about using anything higher than BS5, but in some cases it's unavoidable.

I would also not lump the New North Main Line in with the North London Line at North Acton. The North London Line crosses at right angles but as you can see from the New North Main Line article that line runs parallel to the Central line for some distance. Other than that keep up the good work! Britmax (talk) 17:03, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

I'm not really sure about the layout there (as I am some 5,000 miles and 40 years distant from London), but I will check Google Earth and make the necessary corrections.

As far as the discussion about the Stratford layout, I think the solution will be to do an enlargement, à la Acton Town. Useddenim (talk) 17:13, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

I find that the BS number is not as important as the habit editors have of not watching the lengths of the labels on stations and lines. Referring to Acton Town, this is a track plan rather than a diagram. I am personally opposed to the detail here as I feel that it's asking too much of a diagram and it's too much detail for a general encyclopedia, but that's just my opinion. Britmax (talk) 09:28, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

I agree; style can be just as important as substance (or is that just my graphic design experienc speaking?) And to my (minor) shame, I still haven't been able to correct the width mis-match on my version of the District line RDT.

WRT to Acton Town et al., I started doing track plans for individual stations, as some station pages give a very detailed explanation of the layout, and in those cases a picture is worth a thousand words. (But they're not appropriate or necessary everywhere.) Useddenim (talk) 13:02, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Northern line template

Your Ally Pally branch is interesting but it doesn't have to be that long. have a look on my page for another approach. Britmax (talk) 14:32, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

File:BSicon ~mKRZ.svg Reverts

WRT this thread, am I off base, or is axp_de being overly-protective of BSicondom? Useddenim (talk) 23:50, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

Hi. It is difficult to say. What does the icon represent? Is it a crossing on the level? If so, and you want a version that shows equal status, rather than solid red and split blue, why not just create a new icon? Then existing diagrams can use the old icon for the time being, or be updated when appropriate. That was the approach that I took when the red A-road icons (uAKRZu, etc) changed to thinner red and yellow roads. After consultation, I built a new set of uAROADu icons. Interestingly, I have recently changed most of the canal maps I have drawn back to the uAKRZu icon set, as the red of the AROAD set was too similar to the red of the heavy rail, and I started to have maps where an AROAD crossed a canal and a railway.

Such issues are always more difficult when the icons, like these, are used on many wikis worldwide. I have always taken the line that if my new icon is better, it will get used. Bob1960evens (talk) 13:50, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

Redirect syntax

No problem - the beauty of a wiki is others can just fix things!

Which documentation did you read? I'll take a look and see if I can improve it. Thryduulf (talk) 22:42, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

Yes, that certainly is opaque! My first thought is to simply put an explicit note saying that the meaning of the parameters is explained at Template:Copied#Parameters. However that page itself doesn't look to brilliant at explaining to those unfamiliar with what diffs are. If you think that the Help:Merging instructions need more than that, then I'll start a discussion on that talk page about it. If you think that the Template:Copied instructions need improving discussion on that talk page and link to it from Help talk:Merging. I'll specifically invite you to whichever discussion I start (unless you want to start one yourself first). Sometimes it's hard for experienced editors to see things through the eyes of someone less experienced, so thank you! Thryduulf (talk) 18:06, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Rail gauge categories

I've replied to your comment at WP:TWP#Toronto 4 foot 10-7/8 inch gauge. Mjroots (talk) 06:55, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Chester-Manchester Line

On this New Popular Edition map [1] the WCML passes over the tunnel , not far north of the south portal. Britmax (talk) 15:15, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Churning out icons

moved to commons:Talk:BSicon/New icons and icon requests

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Formatting issues with NFTA article.

I've noticed a number of issues with the formatting of the article, causing centering to occur when not needed, and a few sections out of order, likely from improper nesting...

I don't know where to start to fix the formatting, and don't want to give you the impression that I'm not liking the changes...I'd actually like to see it formatted properly first before I suggest anything.

--Allamericanbear (talk) 14:50, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Just a typo, from an omitted |} . Should be fixed now. Useddenim (talk) 14:54, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Now it all comes together! Looks awesome. Thanks!

--Allamericanbear (talk) 15:06, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Southampton and Dorchester Railway

I've reverted your changes to the template here. Your changes leave two junctions on the line marked "Holes Bay Junction" when this junction is identified by the old version, and I left the line to Exeter dotted as it was never built. Britmax (talk) 00:35, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Fair enough with the Dorchester change. Although I would like a difference between unbuilt lines and built ones I can see the point, and have put your change back. Your Holes Bay junction curve is better than mine, by the way. The junction down and to the left is Hamworthy. I'll try to work the causeway bridge in but it works without it so it may be a while. Britmax (talk) 11:15, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

BTW I'm working up a joint railway (GN & GE) on my page. As you have sometimes changed things there I would ask you not to do so until later in the process. There are some complex junctions and if I don't notice a change someone else has made I could get totally lost. Britmax (talk) 11:19, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Selby to Goole Line

I've just clarified the junctions on this template. Let me know what you think. Britmax (talk) 23:34, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

Much clearer, now. Good job. Useddenim (talk) 01:51, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

New Icon

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Sorry I meant to answer but time flies lately. I'm not sure it's an advantage: a little less clumsy in appearance but as the junction still uses two columns there's no gain that way. Britmax (talk) 15:54, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

My though was for complicated junctions: I don't think the example here is too outrageous, and it's more compact that could be done with existing icons. Useddenim (talk) 16:23, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Toronto RDTs

Hi there, I wanted to thank you for all the work you've done on the RDTs and icons, and especially on Template:Air Rail Link. Still figuring out the system, but I think you captured most of what I was trying to do. However, I think that adding future extensions to Template:Sheppard Line Map and Template:Eglinton-Scarborough Crosstown line can be confusing for most readers. They are mentioned in the article for information, but to put them in the RDT infers that they will be built, which is speculative at best. Ng.j (talk) 02:06, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

As an addendum, I haven't been able to find solid refs on either of the two TTC lines. Sheppard is just a pipe dream at the moment, as there is no funding at all, while Metrolinx has stated in documents that the stations between Laird and Kennedy are up in the air. Midland and Ellesmere are also on the chopping block, so who knows? You may have noticed that I haven't really listed any stations except the ones that have been stated will be built, anything else is just unreferenced speculation. Ng.j (talk) 16:09, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

I've been following the lead of London (which admittedly has a much more complex system), which has been to include any seriously considered proposals. (Probably the best examples are the Bakerloo line extension to Camberwell which has been proposed since the late 1940s, and the Chelsea–Hackney line which has been on and off again for more than 40 years and won't be considered for construction for at least another half decade.) Useddenim (talk) 01:52, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

Re: Inkscape

Thank you for your message. Now I'm using Sketsa for drawing/editing railway icons. It seems better for this task and files got smaller in bytes. --Zabob alias Tener for it:wiki (talk or it:Discussioni Utente:Tener) 09:18, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Icon fix - rename pending

I notice that many of the pages which you have recently changed with the edit summary "Icon fix - rename pending" now appear broken. One example was Template:Ealing Broadway station, which I have reverted for now, but there seem to be quite a number of others on a brief scan through your recent contribution history. Could you please explain what is changing, and why? - David Biddulph (talk) 09:13, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

I do it this way because there is the problem that a page move can be done in as short a time as three hours, or as long as three days. Also, by making the link changes first and then the page move, there are fewer (if any) unnecessary redirects created. (And, apparently, one is created for each language's Wiki, not just in Commons.) Useddenim (talk) 11:05, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Understood. Have you any idea how soon the relevant move will be done? How many pages are being affected? Which page is it that is going to move? Is this something that should be explained on the relevant talk page or project page? - David Biddulph (talk) 11:09, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Not duplicates

moved to commons:Talk:BSicon/New icons and icon requests#Not duplicates

File:BSicon_FLYe.svg

Hi, it was not a real speedy delete reason, so I thought easier to change the size. But that turned out to be a flop. I will exterminate if you think it is very easy to recreate as needed. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:43, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

The speedy request was done by me. I fairly doubt there was any use of this icon even if it would have been completely reconstructed. a×p_de^Hello! 13:01, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

Template:North East railway line

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footpath and unwatered canals

Okay, I'm going to stamp my foot down here and say that if you insist that ug- icons are foorpath icons, you have to proove it. SHow me articles that use them so, 'cause I look at this and [2] and I see NO such usage of them whatsoever, but I see plenty of use of the dark green set for paths: hu:Fertő tavi kerékpárutak, Minuteman Bikeway, Northampton and Lamport Railway, Ribble Way, de:Oder-Neiße-Radweg, la:Iter a Burdigala Narbonem, la:Iter a Lugduno Batavorum Argentorate... Do note that they also are different shades of green! ug- is #2CA05A, and that of the -green/f- is #008000, as we noted on Commons. Circéus (talk) 13:01, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Hey! I'm not trying to start an edit war; I was just following on (instead of following through (as I should have). The correction has been made. Fin? Useddenim (talk) 13:26, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Sorry I jumped to conclusions. I thought if we were going to argue in the edit sumamries we'd just get an edit war >_>;; Circéus (talk) 13:39, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

New Flyer

See my edit summary for this diff. Basically, the text originated from us, and Facebook copied us based on the terms of our free license. This is actually how our license is supposed to work, and I've had it happen in other articles, where people copy us (sometimes violation of the terms of our license), and then editors think that we copied them rather than the actual case, that they copied us. So the paragraphs are fine. Please do not reinsert the tag without other evidence. Thanks! SchuminWeb (Talk) 05:17, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

Template:Cross Country Route

I reverted some of what you did because, as I stated, it didn't fit the style used elsewhere on the page. The Great Central winds in and out of the map all the way up and down it, trying to make that use LUECKEs would be pointless, so why do the same for Dearne Valley? I can understand putting them on the same column, but why not stick with the CONTs used elsewhere?. As for Curzon street, that was perfectly fine - the icons were clear and it didn't disrupt the straight central line. While I appreciate your work creating these icons, the diagonal cross in 2 icons you added near Leeds disrupt the straight flow and are to be honest rather hard to decipher - there is a limit to what can be achieved on a small icon, and given doing so would not actually make the diagram thinner, it seems better to have clarity. -mattbuck (Talk) 15:39, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

Discussion at Template talk:S-line#Editprotected circular parameters

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Icon changes KRZ2+4 etc.

Hi, why has this edit produced duplicate rows? --Redrose64 (talk) 18:28, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

'Cause I got interrupted in the middle of an edit session… (something to do about going out for dinner, or some-such real world activity…) Useddenim (talk) 18:58, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Your help desk question

I noticed no one had answered this question. Perhaps they can answer it on WP:VPT.Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 19:42, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

Eglinton-Scarborough Crosstown

Do not blindly revert my edits at Template:Eglinton-Scarborough Crosstown line. Your reverts put back speculative stations that are not officially part of the current plan of the line. EelamStyleZ talk 13:14, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

It wasn't "blindly" reverted. As I noted in the reason, the extension is discussed in the article, and therefore it is reasonable to included in the diagram. I am raising the issue at the talk page to see what the consensus is on the subject. Useddenim (talk) 14:27, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

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