User talk:Mabdul

Referencing Question

Hi Mabdul,

I thought you’d be a good person to ask advice about article referencing, hope this is ok?

In the case of biographical pages, is it ok to reference information on the website that the person works for if that company is publicly-listed, therefore all information has been verified by an external party? I had assumed that it was best to use third party sites instead, but for instances where this proves difficult, I just wanted to check as I couldn’t find anything definitive on the Wiki help pages. Thanks in advance for your help!

Sarah Sarahfuller1 (talk) 12:00, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, primary/secondary sources are totally OK for uncontroversial facts. I did a small cleanup on your recent addition. mabdul 12:53, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Twinkle talkback

Hi,
well, yes, I did understand that that's what you're asking for, but can't you simply give me an example of the kind of notice you want to place so that I can see what you want to do (instead of how you think it could be done). Based on what I currently think you want to do I could name five different ways (of varying difficulty and general usefulness) to implement it. Without an actual example you make it hard for me to decide on one. :)
Amalthea 12:34, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

I want simply to be able to add more "radio buttons" for the talkback template I am using regular (e.g. A new response at WP:HD, WP:RT, etc). The easiest solution would be adding the same way like the welcome templates which also can be expanded. mabdul 15:53, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Ich weiß nicht warum Du mir partout kein explizites Beispiel geben willst, wenn ich Dich richtig verstehe dann hast Du die Templates die Du benutzen willst doch schon irgendwo da? Verrat sie mir doch bitte einfach. :)
"Einfach nur neue Radio Buttons hinzufügen" ist so schlicht nicht definiert genug, hinter den bestehenden Buttons sind ja nicht nur unterschiedliche Templates, jeder bestehende Button hat unterschiedlichen Input und leicht unterschiedliche Logik. Wenn es nur darum geht, ein Template mit einem Parameter zu hinterlassen dann kannst Du tatsächlich einfach ein custom welcome template dafür missbrauchen.
Und nein, ich versuche echt nicht schwierig zu sein. :) Ich kann schon versuchen zu raten wie Du das genau einsetzen willst, aber dann muss ich mir entweder mehr Arbeit machen als nötig oder es kommt was genauso halbares raus wie bei den Custom Welcome templates die momentan eher unbrauchbar sind.
Amalthea 16:23, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Ich weiß ja nicht was du hören willst: ich will einfach nur weitere Seiten zu dem tb-tab hinzufügen, weil copy and paste dauert mir in manchen Fällen (touchscreen an meinem "tablet laptop" - kein Bock den Bildschirm aufzuklappen um das touchpad zu benutzen) einfach zu lange... warum nicht einfach das existierende {{tb}} benutzen? Viele/Die meisten HD, etc. haben eh keine eigenen spezifischen Vorlagen.

"hinter den bestehenden Buttons sind ja nicht nur unterschiedliche Templates, jeder bestehende Button hat unterschiedlichen Input und leicht unterschiedliche Logik" - unterschiedlichen Input? nen level 2 section header (optional); unterschiedlichen Template? simply use tb! Ich bezweifle nicht dass du nicht schwierig sein möchtest, aber ich glaub du denkst einfach nur zu kompliziert ;)

mabdul 21:19, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

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Hi Mabdul, any idea why so many submissions are ending up in user space? I though we changed article wizard to place things in AFC space, I'm probably missing something obvious... Pol430 talk to me 09:24, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

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Proposed deletion of Yuki Yoshida

The article Yuki Yoshida has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

No indication this football player has played in a professional league, and fails WP:GNG.

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It appears that a redirect you created via AFC/R was converted into an article. As the subject doesn't appear to meet the notability guidelines, I have reverted to the redirect revision. Best, Alpha_Quadrant (talk) 23:24, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, thanks. I already nominated (lol, that should be informed! I was likely tired. mabdul 12:27, 4 March 2012 (UTC)) the second contributor of that page and left a talkpage message on the "article". mabdul 23:30, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Extra Help Required

Hi Mabdul. You were kind enough to help me, following a request on my talk page, for which you have my gratitude but are you able to explain how you managed to find/create the address so next time I'm able to do it myself? Best regards--Ykraps (talk) 10:37, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Oh yes of course. Here is a step-by-step instruction:

• open [1]
• right-click on "4Dorsetdistricts08.pdf [click to download]" and click "copy link address" (the wording might be different in your web browser) (that is then following link: http://www.swtourismalliance.org.uk/files/download.php?m=documents&f=100419151051-4Dorsetdistricts08.pdf )
• open now http://webcitation.org/ and click at the top on "ARCHIVE" (resulting that you get to http://webcitation.org/archive )
• paste in the first text field the pdf address
• enter your email address
• fill in optional fields
• hit save
• wait a few minutes and try the link

Regards, mabdul 11:31, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Ah, the option for me is "copy shortcut"! Many thanks--Ykraps (talk) 12:11, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

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Clear Books

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Actually you might want to participate in Articles for deletion/Clear Books, as it seems that you have something to say on this topic. — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk) 13:50, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

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Bynari

Hi Mabdul, Why did you edit Bynari's page and plant negative information on purpose? It was updated by me, the president of Bynari, Inc. Do you profess to know more about my company and products than I do or are you simply trying to sabotage our company's page by planting information you know very well is incorrect and out of date? This is vandalism, especially coming someone who seems to do a lot of good work on Wikipedia! Since you seem to know so much about Bynari, it's amusing to see you put back the name of Hyun Kim who hasn't been with the company for almost 3 years:-) If you have time to play Wikepedia cop then you should have the courtesy and professionalism to at least contact us to confirm that the changes came from us; unless of course you have some ulterior motives for vandalising our page as a favor to a competitor that couldn't beat us on the marketplace! Joel Ammor President & GM Bynari, Inc. jammor@bynari.net — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bynariteam (talk • contribs) 21:58, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

Hi Joel,

I really suggest that you get a new username since it violates our username policy.

"plant negative information" - sry? what are you talking about? Everything I changed and/or added was done in good faith and always cited with reliable references.

"you know very well is incorrect and out of date?" - all what I added was cited - if they are out of date, then this is because I simply didn't find any actual reference and I wasn't aware that these information were out of date - more over I rescued this article now two times for being deleted!

I removed the CEO from the article as you can also see in the history of the article.

"at least contact us to confirm that the changes came from us;" - no! that is simply not how Wikipedia is working! We try to cite every fact by using information which is accessible in third party, reliable and thus independent sources.

I really suggest you that you also read WP:COI (or our simple guide/version is located at WP:PSCOI)

Regards, mabdul 11:39, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

AfC proposal

Hello! I have a proposal regarding WP:AFC (and WP:AFD, actually) process that I would like to discuss with someone. It actually comes from my thinking over several AfDs of "Clear Books" article. The idea is that the special process is created for WP:AFC submissions for articles previously deleted in WP:AFD. This process should look like AfD – the article is passed after reaching the consensus among several editors. What do you think about it? — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk) 12:29, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Mmmmh, no. Please not. We already have a backlog regular with over ~500 submissions waiting for a review. The AFC should only hold off submissions which are clearly bad and getting deleted (CSD, PROD, AFD, doesn't matter) (and still getting the IPs and non-confirmed users the possibility to create new articles). Normally an article which gets deleted in an AFD should get restored over a WP:DR - in the case of the Clear Books - this is a special case because since the company is/might be not notable, you simply (can) chose writing "an identical" article about the software which might be notable (will check in a few minutes!)

Really the idea to get a (automated) way to discuss articles (on something like a new board) (esp salted ones) which were deleted before because of an XFD (mostly 'CSDed articles can be sorted out because they are mostly deleted because of G11/12) is a great idea. Yes, I think in these cases AFD participants should be informed. mabdul 13:06, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Hi Mabdul,

Thank you for the response but I find it laughable that you call a 10 year old article "Reliable"! Is it more "reliable and current than our website"? You do realize that in 10 years companies change alot: Executives, Addresses but mosly products? None of the products you've listed are made by Bynari anymore or have been rebranded. You insisted on taking an article in German and translated it into terrible English to give us a page which frankly now is a joke and makes no sense to the reader. It'd have been better if you just kept it blank. Just for clarity sake, what was wrong with the update that we did? Regards,