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Thanks for visiting the Teahouse![edit]

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Dear Rob Schnautz (WMF), thank you for stopping by the Teahouse. Wikipedia is a community of people working together to make knowledge free. You are an important part of that effort! Sarah (talk) 21:39, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Beta test[edit]

Hey bob. The link you gave me to beta test is dead. What happened? --Guerillero | My Talk 05:18, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Orientation interview[edit]

Ready when you are, Rob. Skomorokh 15:20, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

The Tea Leaf - Issue One - Recent news from the Teahouse[edit]

Hi! Welcome to the first edition of The Tea Leaf, the official newsletter of the Teahouse!

Spring has sprung! Stop by the Teahouse for a cup of tea under the cherry blossoms.
  • Metrics are out from week one. Week one showed that the need for Teahouse hosts to invite new editors to the Teahouse is urgent for this pilot period. It also showed that emailing new users invitations is a powerful tool, with new editors responding more to emails than to talk page templates. We also learned that the customized database reports created for the Teahouse have the highest return rate of participation by invitees. Check out the metrics here and see how you can help with inviting in our Invitation Guide.
  • A refreshed "Your hosts" page encourages experienced Wikipedians to learn about the Teahouse and participate. With community input, the Teahouse has updated the Your hosts page which details the host roles within the Teahouse pilot and the importance that hosts play in providing a friendly, special experience not always found on other welcome/help spaces on Wikipedia. It also explains how Teahouse hosts are important regarding metrics reporting during this pilot. Are you an experienced editor who wants to help out? Take a look at the new page today and start learning about the hosts tasks and how you can participate!
  • Introduce yourself and meet new guests at the Teahouse. Take the time to welcome and get to know the latest guests at the Teahouse. New & experienced editors to Wikipedia can add a brief infobox about themselves and get to know one another with direct links to userpages. Drop off some wikilove to these editors today, they'll surely be happy to feel the wikilove!

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Problems and what to do about them[edit]

Hi,

Are you going to respond to Problems & what we are doing about them/learning from them I've been trying for almost a month to get some closure to this and have been routed from one editor to another, each one stating it is not within their purview, or referring me to the "Online Ambassadors Selection Committee". As noted on that page, one of my last attempts was here: JMathewson's English Wikipedia talk page. I implore you to read what is written there. As noted there, two other editors besides me have noticed this problem and expressed concern regarding the copyvio/plagiarism etc. issues.

As I said there: I suggest that you look through Wikipedia talk:United States Education Program/Archive 1 and Wikipedia talk:United States Education Program/Archive 2 and search for "cindy" you will get an inkling of the degree her approach disrupted the en:wp community. Please, I urge that efforts be made to ensure that these Online Ambassadors are competent. I'm not the only one who has a problem with "cindy". See that same online ambassador is in charge of the single class that has given me the most headaches - SandyGeorgia Also, see comments from Dcoetzee. This all began because I failed her GA nomination because of copyvio/plagiarism/close paraphrasing concerns. See Talk:Douglas W. Owsley/GA1.

I'd appreciate some closure on this issue, especially since this editor is on the "Online Ambassador Selection Committee".

Thanks, MathewTownsend (talk) 18:00, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

The Global Development staff are aware of the issue and are currently discussing it. Rob SchnautZ (WMF) (talkcontribs) 18:18, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
Is this a transparent process? Is there any place I can get information? Will I get any feedback? Thanks, MathewTownsend (talk) 22:47, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
The "transparency" we've been talking about relates to the Education Program, not internal things. The Foundation's relations with the Steering Committee (which isn't even part of the Foundation) aren't meant to be transparent at all. Thanks for your patience as we address this. Rob SchnautZ (WMF) (talkcontribs) 23:52, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
So when you say on your user page: "One of our main goals right now is to establish better transparency in the Education Program, and I'll do what I can to see that the Wikipedians and Education Program staff can work together to make Wikipedia and the Education Program better together." - what do you mean? Am I a "Wikipedian" by your definition? Who is considered "Education Program Staff"? Is there going to be any way I can access information? Or are editors like me not included in your statement of main goals? Thank you, MathewTownsend (talk) 13:43, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
Yes, you're a Wikipedian, and the staff are individuals who are hired to work for the Foundation as a part of the Education program. But think about it; even if your business sported a transparent philosophy, and something related to your organization happened that could potentially cause waves and even damage your reputation if mishandled, would you want the public relations people to go around publicizing it before the company had a chance to fully investigate the issue? There are certain aspects of a business that simply can't be handled transparently (this being one of them), but I can assure you this is being investigated. Please also remember that no one is in the office over the weekend. Rob SchnautZ (WMF) (talkcontribs) 19:34, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
After some research, we've found this isn't in the Foundation's capacity to deal with online ambassadors. The online ambassadors are selected by the editing community, which also has the power to remove an online ambassador from the team. You can find more information about this at the same link Epistemophiliac provided you at WP:Ambassadors/Steering Committee/Ambassador Recall Process. Rob SchnautZ (WMF) (talkcontribs) 17:22, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
Some dissemination about the WP:Ambassadors/Steering Committee/Ambassador Recall Process is needed, as during the Fall semester when specific OAs were causing problems, no en:wp editor was aware of this process and it has never been used. I'm not sure what this group is - was it approved by the en:wp community, or was it a self-made group that has made up its own rules, unknown to the en:wp community? Does any process have oversight, or are they self-determining? Kinda confusing, as it's taken me a month to discover their existence and non of the WMF editors could direct me there. MathewTownsend (talk) 17:53, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
The rules governing online ambassadors are a product of the WP:Ambassadors/Steering Committee, which is governed by the Wikipedia community. You might try suggesting to them at their talk page that they make these things more available to the community. I think you'll find the OA you're having issues with is also a member of the Steering Committee. Rob SchnautZ (WMF) (talkcontribs) 18:04, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── I have already found out that there is no group/process over them and there is no oversight process. Pharos has informed me that the Wikipedia:Ambassadors/Steering Committee/Online Ambassador selection process etc. is currently inactive, although the specific editor in question is still putting "welcome templates" on pages advertising her position on it. Are you aware that many of the Wikipedia:United States Education Program/Courses/Present have no Campus Ambassadors? MathewTownsend (talk) 18:11, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I'm aware of that. Unfortunately recruiting campus ambassadors is not as easy as one might expect or hope. Because of this, online ambassadors are asked to make up for any lack of campus ambassadors. And as far as what the Steering Committee is up to, I'm not affiliated with that and don't have any advice there except to approach them yourself. Rob SchnautZ (WMF) (talkcontribs) 18:20, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
re Wikipedia talk:United States Education Program/Courses/Criminal Process (Professor Heather Winslow) - are you saying that the en:wp community can't make comments or ask questions? That's ok with me, but are there rules somewhere written done about what is, and what is not, ok for a en:wp community member to do regarding the education program? It's very confusing and I've definitely had a difficult time trying to figure out where it's ok for me to post. Could there be a guide presented somewhere? And a notice to the community (complete with links) where the en:wp community is allowed to give input? Thanks, MathewTownsend (talk) 15:25, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
The manner in which you posted came off as prodding the class/CA/professor. Asking questions is fine, but if you're going to do this, please do it in a friendly way rather than one that accuses people. One of Wikipedia's key policies is WP:AGF. Anyway, many classes don't have as much time to focus on Wikipedia and might develop their articles in a word processor, and only during the last week do they migrate that to Wikipedia. I don't see a problem with that; I'm sure many non-student editors do this as well. Rob SchnautZ (WMF) (talkcontribs) 15:42, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
ok, I'm sorry for that. I'll be more careful. Thanks, MathewTownsend (talk) 14:42, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost[edit]

Hi, I searched for a pic: there's one on FB and one on Commons, neither of them particularly appropriate. Any chance you could upload a descent one (or two)? Any pointers to other pics related to the content of the interview that we could use? Tony (talk) 12:49, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Canada Education Program[edit]

When something like this is set up, do you know who makes sure the students understand our guidelines and policies. I've just found someone adding obvious copyvio edits (and signing them) from this project. See my comments at User talk:Sub specie aeternitatis. Thanks. Moonriddengirl suggested I ask you, by the way. Dougweller (talk) 14:55, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

Illuminated manuscripts[edit]

The last few days (March 14-17) have seen several articles on manuscripts commissioned by John, Duke of Berry being greatly expanded by different new editors - Très Riches Heures du Duc de Berry, Hours of Jeanne d'Evreux, and Belles Heures of Jean de France, Duc de Berry are affected, and maybe others. The edits are college-level. I can't see any such course-based initiative on Outreach, but do you know anything about this? Thanks Johnbod (talk) 17:38, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Talkback[edit]

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The Signpost: 19 March 2012[edit]

The Signpost: 26 March 2012[edit]

Towson University wikipedia project[edit]

Hello Rob -- John CD mentioned to me on my talk page that you are a newly-appointed educational support guy. I don't have any particular needs right now, but I just wanted to make you aware that I have a university project going on this semester. You can read about it on my talk page. It's pretty standard and basic Wikipedia editing. In fact, it's for an editing class. :-) Thanks for your support in general! --Mportolano (talk) 16:17, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 02 April 2012[edit]

Doodle for April Wikipedia Education Program meeting[edit]

Please leave your availability for the April Wikipedia Education Program Metrics and Activities Meeting on this Doodle so we can find the best time for all of us.

I also need a volunteer to lead the meeting! Will you help? Leave a message. It requires no advanced preparation, just the ability to welcome everyone and move us through the agenda. -- LiAnna Davis (WMF) (talk)

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YGM[edit]

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The Tea Leaf - Issue Two[edit]

Hi! Welcome to the second edition of The Tea Leaf, the official newsletter of the Teahouse!

  • Teahouse celebrates one month of being open! This first month has drawn a lot of community interest to the Teahouse. Hosts & community members have been working with the project team to improve the project in many ways including creating scripts to make inviting easier, exploring mediation processes for troubling guests, and best practices regarding mentoring for new editors who visit the Teahouse.
Springtime means fresh tea leaves...
  • First month metrics report an average of 30 new editors visiting the Teahouse each week. Approximately 30 new editors participate in the Teahouse each week, by way of asking questions and making guest profiles. An average of six new questions and four new profiles are made each day. We'd love to hear your ideas about how we can spread the word about the Teahouse to more new editors.
  • Teahouse has many regulars. Like any great teahouse, our Teahouse has a 61% return rate of guests, who come back to ask additional questions and to also help answer others' questions. Return guests cite the speedy response rate of hosts and the friendly, easy to understand responses by the hosts and other participants as the main reasons for coming back for another cup o' tea!
  • Early metrics on retention. It's still too early to draw conclusions about the Teahouse's impact on new editor retention, but, early data shows that 38% of new editors who participate at the Teahouse are still actively editing Wikipedia 2-4 weeks later, this is compared with 7% from a control group of uninvited new editors who showed similar first day editing activity. Additional metrics can be found on the Teahouse metrics page.
  • Nine new hosts welcomed to the Teahouse. Nine new hosts have been welcomed to the Teahouse during month one: Chicocvenancio, Cullen328, Hallows AG, Jeffwang, Mono, Tony1, Worm That Turned, Writ Keeper, and Nathan2055. Welcome to the Teahouse gang, folks!
  • Say hello to the new guests at the Teahouse. Take the time to welcome and get to know the latest guests at the Teahouse. Drop off some wikilove to these editors today, as being welcomed by experienced editors is a really nice way to make new editors feel welcome.

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The Signpost: 09 April 2012[edit]

The Signpost: 16 April 2012[edit]

Join us Monday for April Wikipedia Education Program meeting[edit]

Greetings,

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I need your help to lead the next Wikipedia Education Program Metrics and Activities Meeting! Will you leave a message if you can help? It requires no advanced preparation, just the ability to welcome everyone and move us through the agenda.

The next meeting has been scheduled for Monday, April 23 at 20:00 UTC. See the meeting information page for joining instructions and a time converter. Hope to talk with you on Monday! -- LiAnna Davis (WMF) (talk)

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Mail[edit]

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Pine(talk) 07:53, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 23 April 2012[edit]

The Signpost: 30 April 2012[edit]

reply to you in Pine's box[edit]

Hi,

I replied to your comments made in Pine's box to me.[1]

Didn't know if you would see them or not. I'm never clear where to post my Education Program comments. And I don't want to be accused of breaking a rule.

Thanks, MathewTownsend (talk) 02:31, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Ambassador mailing list[edit]

I sent an email to the ambassador mailing list but it hasn't come back to my inbox. Can you check to see if the list rejected it? Pine(talk) 23:01, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

  • I received two responses. The first was one from LiAnna directing people to the talk page who were posting to Google Groups. I didn't receive copies of any emails that were sent to the Google group. The second was an email from this morning, saying that the owner of the ambassadors announcements email list had rejected my email. Those are the only two messages that I got. Pine(talk) 17:46, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Suggestion[edit]

Hi Rob, I think that you'll want to look at the questions and comments from Mike Christie here and LauraHale here, and my responses. I think that these discussions may help you as you develop your report to the WMF WEP team. Pine(talk) 06:30, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 07 May 2012[edit]

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Wikipedia:Campus Ambassadors/New York University[edit]

This one appears to be used. Also, our NYC area meetings are held at NYU. So I removed your speedy tag. Send it to XfD if you disagree. Bearian (talk) 20:58, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 28 May 2012[edit]

A cup of coffee for you![edit]

A small cup of coffee.JPG Thanks for the good work at getting some of the education program pages untangled and clarified. Pine 23:21, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 04 June 2012[edit]

Making the Wikipedia Education Program Meeting better[edit]

Thanks for expressing interest in the Wikipedia Education Program Metrics and Activities Meeting. I'm investigating ways to make the meeting more effective, and I'd love to get feedback from you as to what we could do to improve the meeting. Please weigh in on the discussion there! -- LiAnna Davis (WMF) (talk)

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The Signpost: 11 June 2012[edit]

I have eyes everywhere[edit]

I like your sandbox. Pine 07:57, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you![edit]

A small cup of coffee.JPG To keep you energized when working in your sandbox. :) Pine 08:02, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

This stuff. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Rob_Schnautz_%28WMF%29/sandbox&diff=prev&oldid=496163896. I'm looking forward to seeing this go live! Pine 18:16, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

This pine has eyes and ears all through the forest. :) Pine 06:10, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

The Tea Leaf - Issue Four[edit]

Hi! Welcome to the fourth issue of The Tea Leaf, the official newsletter for the Teahouse!

  • Teahouse pilot wraps up after 13 weeks After being piloted on English Wikipedia starting in February, the Teahouse wrapped up its pilot period on May 27, 2012. We expect this is just the beginning for the Teahouse and hope the project will continue to grow in the months to come!

Thank you and congratulations to all of the community members who participated - and continue to participate!

  • What you've all been waiting for: Teahouse Pilot Report is released! We look forward to your feedback on the methodology and outcomes of this pilot project.
  • ....and if a pilot report wasn't enough, the Teahouse Pilot Metrics Report is out too! Dive into the numbers and survey results to learn about the impact the Teahouse has made on English Wikipedia.
  • Teahouse shows positive impact on new editor retention and engagement
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  • 409 new editors participated during the entire pilot period, with about 40 new editors participating in the Teahouse per week.
  • Two weeks after participating, 33% of Teahouse guests are still active on Wikipedia, as opposed to 11% of a similar control group.
  • New editors who participated in the Teahouse edit 10x the number of articles, make 7x more global edits, and 2x as much of their content survives on Wikipedia compared to the control group.
  • Women participate in the Teahouse 28% of Teahouse participants were women, up from 9% of editors on Wikipedia in general, good news for this project which aimed to have impact on the gender gap too - but still lots to be done here!
  • New opportunities await for the Teahouse in phase two as the Teahouse team and Wikipedia community examine ways to improve, scale, and sustain the project. Opportunities for future work include:
  • Automating or semi-automating systems such as invites, metrics and archiving
  • Experimenting with more ways for new editors to discover the Teahouse
  • Building out the social and peer-to-peer aspects further, including exploring ways to make answering questions easier, creating more ways for new editors to help each other and for all participants to acknowledge each other's efforts
  • Growing volunteer capacity, continuing to transfer Teahouse administration tasks to volunteers whenever possible, and looking for new ways to make maintenance and participation easier for everyone.
  • Want to know how you can lend a hand at the Teahouse? Become a host! Learn more about what makes the Teahouse different than other help spaces on Wikipedia and see how you can help new editors by visiting here.
  • Say hello to the new guests at the Teahouse. Take the time to welcome and get to know the latest guests at the Teahouse. Drop off some wikilove to these editors today, as being welcomed by experienced editors is really encouraging to new Wikipedians.

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Upcoming IRC office hour with WMF education staff[edit]

Hi Rob, is there an agenda for this office hour or is the whole hour for Q & A? Thanks, Pine 08:03, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 18 June 2012[edit]

Course namespace has blocked access to pages named with that prefix[edit]

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Steering Committee subpages[edit]

I've just requested deletion of about 30 subpages within my userspace that included completed work and presentations in progress from my previous service as an Online Ambassador and member of the Steering Committee. Seems there's no use to keep this information anymore. If you have use, please feel free. Best regards, Cindy(talk to me) 14:15, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 25 June 2012[edit]

Re: Orange box[edit]

You're welcome. I have seen a lot of course pages posted directly on that page and they could have received more support if the professor have contacted us ahead of time. I might have missed a few countries though (or included countries whose projects are not active at the moment, such as India) OhanaUnitedTalk page 18:21, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 02 July 2012[edit]

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