Talk:Batmobile

No Mention of the Batmobile from Gotham Knight?

I got a chance to see a pre-release screening of Batman Gotham Knight, and I'm wondering why there is no mention of the Tumler/Batmobile being in the short from Gotham Knight, entitled Field Test. If you don't believe me, go watch yourself when it comes out.... and yeah, the one in Field Test looks like a Batmobile/Tumbler hybrid sort of thing... but... yeah, i was jw.... I;m sure there will be something about it when it is released. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.78.247.72 (talk) 19:41, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Pictures for the OTHER Bamobile's???

Can someone please put up photo's of Burton's Batmobile from 89 & Returns along with the FOREVER model + B&R model??? THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Invincible Ninja (talk • contribs) .

The Batman Batmobile

I heartily disagree about the status of the 'The Batman' Batmobile. It in no way resembles any other Batmobile, especially that of Batman Begins.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 209.23.129.74 (talk • contribs) .

I agree. If the first car in this series resembles anything it is the version from The New Batman Adventures. However, the second car in the series, the "EXP" version created in the "RPM" episode, resembles the first 1990s animated series car. Cbing01 16:11, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

but some people doesn't realize. if thier trying to find a batmobile they don't know how much they cost though!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.214.179.59 (talk) 01:57, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

Batman Beyond Batmobile?

Why aren't there any reference to the futuristic Batmobile featured in Batman Beyond?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Fraix (talk • contribs) .

Transformers Cybertron

"In the cartoon Transformers: Cybertron, the Decepticon leader Megatron looks similar to the Tim Burton version."

Looks much more like the Batmobile from Schumacher's Batman films, particularly as regards the pointed front end.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.71.242.110 (talk • contribs) .

As there's been no response, I'm going to go ahead and change this. As it's something of a subjective matter, feel free to revert my alteration.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.71.242.110 (talk • contribs) .

Copyvios

I removed a few paragraphs in this edit as they were copied with little changes from either this site, this site or this site (or from the source those sites used). The first of the three sites gives a full citation of the original source of the text as "DC Who's Who In The DC Universe #5, December 1990,Text Mark Waid, Published Monthly By DC Comics Inc.".--Drat (Talk) 09:59, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Original research

I removed the following statement: "In reality, however, nuclear reactors do not have the possibility of detonating like a nuclear weapon. Therefore, Penguin may have been speaking figuratively when he made this comment." This is the essence of original research — see the example on that page. As always, if a reliable review states this, or there is commentary in DVD commentary or some such, restore that bit and cite it.--Drat (Talk) 09:59, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

B:TDKR

I felt I had to add a description of the Dark Knight Returns batmobile, since it is referenced a few times in the article. Noclevername 02:33, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Merge page "Batmobile technical specifications" in?

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• I think that this page and the equipment of the batmobile page should be merged so more searches pertain to the information retrieved.
• both pages are fine separate but honestly when do you want to know about the batmobile and not it's equipment. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 134.129.203.26 (talk) 01:46, 6 February 2007 (UTC).
• I agree that the batmobile and equipment pages should merge — mainly because the equipment article is also categorised by type of batmobile and it will reduce redundancy of description & images. Mrstonky 01:01, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
• Page Batmobile technical specifications is so big that it would overload page Batmobile if merged in. Leave them separate. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 06:27, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
• Merged I have managed to merge the articles quite easily. Seriously 90% of the information was already in this article; a couple of gadget lists were all that was remaining. The references given for the rest of the "technical specifications" turned out to be only short descriptions on the way the car looked (here's one for example: http://www.batmobilehistory.com/1998-batmobile.php).

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Combine Batman and Batman Returns

Seeing as how the Batmobile used in Batman and Batman Returns are essentially the same car, is it really necessary to have two separate pictures? Justin The Claw 04:30, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia talk:Non-free content

See Wikipedia talk:Non-free content#Batmobile for an ongoing discussion of fair-use issues regarding images used in this article. Thanks. Carcharoth 01:35, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Merge Nightbird (comics)

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merge - the car is an adaption of the Batmobile for the use in Nightwing comics. Due to their close relationship, and the lack of informations separating it from the Batmobile, this article could be merged seemlessly. 66.109.248.114 22:51, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

• merge with "Dick Grayson" - First, this article doesn't appear to be notable, based on a Google search. Second, as User:TMC1982 pointed out, it has nothing to do with the Batmobile, honestly. Third, and probably most important, the entire bottom half of it is a copyvio from the second source on the page. However, Dick Grayson has an "Equipment" section, where the good information in this article would fit quite well. Yvh11a (Talk • Contribs) 01:50, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Also, fourth, nothing in Wikipedia links to the Nightbird page except the Batmobile page itself, increasing, at least in my mind, the evidence for a lack of notability argument. Yvh11a (Talk • Contribs) 01:55, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
• Merged as of 05:05, 5 October 2007 (UTC) by Yvh11a (Talk • Contribs) 05:05, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

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Merge from Equipment of the Batmobile, part 2

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• The Equipement article is full of technobabble that seems to originate from two or three Batmobile specific websites. It is written almost entirely as though the various incarnations are real, making no attempt to treat this as a fictional vehicle. Pairadox (talk) 07:06, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
• I retitled the article of Equipment of Batmobile to provide a better framework for the "in-universe" nature of the article, which I have tried to apply to some of the other Bat-vehicle works; however, that still doesn't resolve the source issues (which seem to border on copy-vio) and the fictitious underpinnings. I am open to a merge, or possibly a complete rewrite. -66.109.248.114 (talk) 22:51, 13 March 2008 (UTC).
• On 13/14 March 2008 people moved Equipment of the Batmobile via Fictional equipment of the Batmobile to Batmobile technical specifications. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 06:32, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

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Engine sounds on Batman: The Animated Series version Batmobile

Why on Earth is there a {{fact}} tag on the statement that there was more (if not entire—I've not seen the whole series) use of an internal combustion engine as opposed to a jet engine? What, exactly, is the problem here? Octane ^{[improve me?]} 11.03.08 1014 (UTC)

The problem is that even a statement that you believe to be fact must be backed up with a citation from a verifiable source. I agree that the audio effects did sound far more like internal combustion engine noise, but that's still just consensus opinion, not fact. Part of the problem is that the noises made by motors are different to different people's ears, and can also be affected by acoustics (both inside the engine and in a surrounding area). For that matter, some well-tuned race engines emit a high-pitched whistle that is nothing if not jetlike. I've also heard jet engines that sound a lot like internal combustion engines (I grew up near a U.S. Air Force base, and also served on one while in the Navy, and a "hush house" used for tuning jet engines muffles their characteristic sound, making it almost like the dull roar of a 427 ci V-8). P.F. Bruns (talk) 02:45, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Copyvio

In this set of edits: [1] [2] [3] the content added was almost entirely copyvio from [4]. As this material and any material derived from it are unsuitable for use on Wikipedia, I have rolled the article back to its last clean version, from May of 2007. Please, if re-adding material, be absolutely sure that it did not cope from [5] and that it was not substantially derived from or expanded from material from that site.

Sorry to have to gut the article like this, but it's an unfortunate consequence of uncaught copyvio. Phil Sandifer (talk) 13:42, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Burton's Batmobile wasn't jet powered

Popular Mechanics printed an article on that Batmobile when the movie was released. IIRC, it was built on a 1966 Chevrolet Caprice frame and running gear, with no modifications at all to the suspension or drivetrain. The 'jet intake' is built from pieces from a Rolls Royce jet engine. The large bulb is where the electric starter motor would be on the actual jet engine. For the car, the Caprice's radiator was mounted behind the jet intake.

To add: the flames coming out of the back of Burton's Batmobile are from an oil-fired burner manufactured Nu-Way Heating Plants (Droitwich, UK). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.3.200.69 (talk) 21:52, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Order of equipment

You know, after looking at this article in relation to other articles, shouldn't the ORIGINAL Batmobile be at the top of the page instead of the newer version?--Hourick (talk) 08:17, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Listcruft

I removed the "In Popular Culture" section. I didn't see anything in there that was particularly interesting or notable, and none of it was sourced.—Chowbok ☠ 17:50, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

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Infobox and images

Just to head off a few things:

• Yes, the 'box should have an image.
• Such a an image should not be of one of the television or film cars. The topic here is primarily an element in comic books, that's where an image should be pulled from.
• Given its history of multiple versions, the image is likely to be a contentious issue and should be discussed first. That is, don't put an image in the 'box then come to the talk page.
• The "First appearance" and "Creator(s)" is not an invitation to add when each iteration first appeared, and who redesigned it. They all trace back to the car from Detective #27.

- J Greb (talk) 23:15, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Merge Tumbler article

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Batmobile (Batman Begins)

Someone posted a merge tag on the Tumbler article, I'm finalizing this.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 04:10, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

• Comment - I see no problem in the merge. From what I can tell, the page is basically a duplication of what is already in the Batman Begins article. There is no need to split it from this page, which is barely 10 kb large.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 04:13, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

• Merged - All the Batmobile articles are now merged. A gx7 (talk) 15:01, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Not quite all the Batmobile articles were hit... the 1966, animated series, and "Super Friends" articles haven't been touched. - J Greb (talk) 15:46, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
    • Thanks, I didn't know they existed. I'll merge those as well. All in all there's a lot of repetition between the articles so I'm sure they can be restructured and formed into one succinct article. A gx7 (talk)

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C-Class rated for Comics Project

As this B-Class article has yet to receive a review, it has been rated as C-Class. If you disagree and would like to request an assesment, please visit Wikipedia:WikiProject_Comics/Assessment#Requesting_an_assessment and list the article. Hiding T 14:51, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

• I've made a quick pass but I haven't had a chance yet to check for grammar. Someone needs to look for typos, spelling mistakes and the like is all. To move this to a Good Article, you'd have to expand the lead and deal with the citation needed tags and add references to all sections. Good job so far though. An infobox image would be good, as would breaking up the images already used to spread around the page more. You'd also need to find a lot more reliable sources, the article relies way too much on websites. Also, fix up the refs to at least give access date. Hiding T 16:03, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

• Cool thanks for your help. A gx7 (talk) 10:15, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

I agree with Hiding - it is good on content but could do with more references all round and I'd like to see a bit more on the comics (who was the original artist? Do we have anything on the thinking behind that first design? Do we have more on the other designs?) as the background on the recent film design is very detailed and the comics are thin in comparison (I'd have thought it would have been popular with motoring/film/comics magazines/books and there are a few histories of the vehicle out there, try here). The external links section is huge and something needs doing with it if they can't be moved up to become footnotes then perhaps there is a way to shuffle the links off to somewhere else (I don't know what the process is but perhaps you could suggest a Batmobile section at DMOZ - they have a lot of suitable material [6]. Either that or find a site with good links and link to that). (Emperor (talk) 19:55, 17 February 2009 (UTC))

Michael Keaton's Bat Mobile

the michael keaton bat mobile was powered by a small block 350ci. v8. they may have put parts of a jet engine on the front and back for show. you can hear the v8 rumble in the films a jet engine doenst sound anything like that. --69.230.184.50 (talk) 01:21, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

40s – 60s

I am amazed at the short shrift the Batmobile of apparently more than 20 years is given here, including the lack of an illustration (BTW, just where does that comic panel of the red thing come from?). With the big Bat-head on the front end—too big to qualify as a "hood ornament" in my book—the glass-domed cabin and the big fin upright on the trunk (or whatever), it was the Batmobile for more than one generation of comic book readers. Is this the one described as being introduced in Batman #5? When Julius Schwartz became Bat-editor in 1964 and brought in the "New Look," he included a Batmobile that looked like a conventional convertible given a superficial Bat-decoration job (prophetic, as we'll see). But the #5 mention is followed by this: "The live action television series was so popular that its campy humor and sleek Batmobile designed by George Barris were quickly introduced into the Batman comic books." Actually, Barris did not design that car. When ABC not only bought the series but scheduled it quickly, Dean Jeffries was in the middle of building a Batmobile that he could not deliver in the newly-requisite time. Barris was the current owner of a one-off car built in a distinctive style for publicity purposes by Ford Motor Company/Lincoln more than a decade earlier (it can be seen in the film It Started with a Kiss, 1959), and his shop painted it, slapped a few Bat-decals on it, placed a jet-exhaust pipe under the rear end, and presto! A quickly assembled Batmobile. (James Van Hise, The Green Hornet, Schuster & Schuster, 1988, p.24; he doesn't mention the movie). A version of this rather square-ish vehicle replaced the sleek convertible in Schwartz's comic books. --Tbrittreid (talk) 22:53, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

If you can verify that information with reliable sources, then please add it to the article. ArtistScientist (talk) 23:53, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

I came here with the comments about the 50s and "New Look" Batmobiles instead of altering the article, because I do not have any sources to cite about them. Surely somebody here does. Otherwise, I found to my surprise that the detailed account of the TV show's Batmobile did not even match the source already cited, a Motor Trend Magazine interview with Dean Jeffries. Jeffries says there that his car was dropped because he could not finish and deliver it "in a week and a half" but the article states that Barris was given "three weeks." As I've already put in, my 1988 source quotes Dean as saying "three weeks" also. But given that until now the Motor Trend interview was the only cited source here, where did "three weeks" come from? For that matter, where did Barris farming out the original contract to Jeffries (not what's said in that interview, and in fact it never happened) come from? The article contradicts itself as to just where the Futura had been prior to undergoing Bat-ization. It first says that it had been parked behind George Barris' shop for years, then that he bought it from Ford in December 1965. This is at most a month before Batman went on the air, so he must have already delivered his Batmobile to Fox well before that. While technically "possession" and "ownership" are not identical, the distinction appears inapplicable under these circumstances. I just can't see Ford Motor Company owning the car and allowing it to sit behind Barris' shop (its conditioning deteriorating, according to Motor Trend). So which is it? Given that my 1988 source indicates that at that point Jeffries did not know it was a unique concept car ("It was just basically a stock car from Ford..."), how did he come to know all that in 2006? We need the editor(s) responsible for these passages to come forward and explain, so we can know just how to correct the article. --Tbrittreid (talk) 22:52, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

I think that's pretty unlikely. Some of those edits are from several years ago. You of course can go ahead and remove anything that isn't verified if that's what you feel like doing. ArtistScientist (talk) 03:55, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Atomic turbine?

I removed this description of a 390 C.I.D. Ford engine as it is nonsense. What is an atomic turbine anyway? Just another of Barris' promotional tricks. Meanfrank (talk) 23:56, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Don't blame Barris, as it was referenced in on-air dialogue. I'm sure that's why ArtistScientist restored it. He merely beat me to it. --Tbrittreid (talk) 00:42, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

H.R. Giger's design

In this article, it is stated, that "[Giger's] designs are on his official website in illustrated and 3D Graphic Art form." I couldn't find the designs of the Batmobile anywhere on the official web page of H.R. Giger (http://www.hrgiger.com/). The above-mentioned statement should be deleted, IMHO. White rotten rabbit (talk) 17:04, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Tires

The Batpod section of the Batcycle article states that the front two tires are 20" tall. The Batpod makes use of the "tumbler" Batmobile's front two tires. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Percussionchuck (talk • contribs) 16:00, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

References that have been removed

Most of the links thatave been removed appear to only have been inserted to allow additional images to be linked to the article without over stepping the non-free content. In doing that they did not provide support for the text where they were located - the primary function of a reference. As it stands some of the links that are left, while providing text that may support they follow, also feel like they are only there to add images. These likely should also be eliminated.

- J Greb (talk) 10:31, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Infobox image issue

- J Greb (talk) 18:01, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Redbird

There is a suggestion for a split and merge from Redbird (comics) to here, see Talk:Redbird (comics). 65.93.13.210 (talk) 07:45, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Arkham Asylum

The Arkham Asylum version doesn't look at all like the one in the Animated Series. It looks more similar to the Tim Burton version. 80.98.146.68 (talk) 02:06, 19 March 2012 (UTC)