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Milankovitch
Hi,I need your opinion on this section [1]. Does it makes sense? Im not an expert!--Свифт (talk) 11:50, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
- This is the first time I have seen a request from someone asking whether their own edits make sense! I admire your intellectual honesty. I wish I had better news for you, but it doesn't make any sense. There is some generic spherical trigonometry related to a mysterious "point 1", and I have no idea what the "explorations" are. There is a lot of missing context, and in any case this probably isn't the place to get into a detailed account of the mathematics. I recommend deleting everything from "Milanković developed ..." to "... cannot be linear."
- I can't see where the Deutsch reference supports the claim that the equations used in paleomagnetism are identical to those of Milankovitch.
- My impression from a quick scan of the Deutsch paper is that Milankovitch's main contribution to the polar wander question was his calculation of the response of the Earth's rotation to movements of the continents, a quantitative theory that anticipated the more famous work of Gold (1955). Basically, he treats the crust as a spherical shell independent of the interior and calculates changes in moments of inertia as the continents move. It would take some effort, though, to write a clear exposition of the theory and its significance. RockMagnetist (talk) 16:08, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
- These equations I have found in his work [2], the section "Secular wanderings of the rotational poles of the Earth" (p.206-282) on the page 276 (german). Also in this work confirm the connection Milanković method and palaeomagnetism [3]. Did Milanković first developed a mathematical method of polar wandering? I do not want to say that his the correct method, but I have a feeling that it represented the base for young scientists in 1950s! I just want to find a way to write a fair section in this article. Thanks!--Свифт (talk) 17:48, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
- I don't know the history that well, but I have never seen any reference in the paleomagnetic literature indicating that his calculations influenced paleomagnetists. However, the Deutsch paper says that his theory of polar wander was developed further by Walter Munk, a very distinguished geophysicist and oceanographer. RockMagnetist (talk) 18:51, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
- I research the impact and Milankovitch efforts in that field "Did Milanković pose a thin bridge between Wegener (1930) and 1950s" (Deutsch paper and others). He was one of the few scientists who is to the end of his life loyally promoted the Wegener's theory. Because of this I need assistance in this section. What do you suggest?--Свифт (talk) 19:44, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
- I don't know the history that well, but I have never seen any reference in the paleomagnetic literature indicating that his calculations influenced paleomagnetists. However, the Deutsch paper says that his theory of polar wander was developed further by Walter Munk, a very distinguished geophysicist and oceanographer. RockMagnetist (talk) 18:51, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
- I would help myself, but I am going to be extremely busy for the next two months. If you want help sooner, you could try asking for help at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Geology. RockMagnetist (talk) 20:05, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
- I will wait for you. You can contact me at any time. Thanks.--Свифт (talk) 20:29, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
- I would help myself, but I am going to be extremely busy for the next two months. If you want help sooner, you could try asking for help at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Geology. RockMagnetist (talk) 20:05, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
You think that "the aspect of the electromagnetic field that is seen as a magnetic field is dependent on the reference frame of the observer" does not suggest that the remaining aspect (the electric field) is excluded from this description? Any such suggestion is misleading. How would you word it to avoid this suggestion? — Quondum☏ 16:49, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
- I think, rather than rewording, a good example is needed. There are textbook examples of electric fields that become magnetic fields in a different reference frame (or v. v.), but I don't have time to find them myself. Perhaps you could? RockMagnetist (talk) 16:52, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
- Have not found an example, but tried a referenced rewording (despite an inclination to simply remove this from the lead). My grammar previously was nonsensical, which may have prompted part of your objection. An example (or even a subsection) may be worthwhile in the body of the article, but I don't see a place for it in the lead. — Quondum☏ 17:11, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
- I hadn't noticed it was in the lead; I agree that an example isn't appropriate there. Yes, the grammar did influence my decision to revert your edit, and the new edit needed some fixing too. The relativistic perspective is a fundamental point, and definitely should be in the lead. RockMagnetist (talk) 17:16, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
- I'm glad we seem to have settled on something that works, and thanks for the fixes of my messes. I used to be good at proofreading; I'm appalled at how many simple language mistakes I've been making lately. I agree with the mention of the relativistic perspective in the lead; it is fundamental as you say, and is highly significant at non-relativistic velocities. My mention of removal was intended only about the tail-end of the sentence, but as revised it is more readily interpreted and clarifies it; I like it there. — Quondum☏ 08:58, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
- I hadn't noticed it was in the lead; I agree that an example isn't appropriate there. Yes, the grammar did influence my decision to revert your edit, and the new edit needed some fixing too. The relativistic perspective is a fundamental point, and definitely should be in the lead. RockMagnetist (talk) 17:16, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
- Have not found an example, but tried a referenced rewording (despite an inclination to simply remove this from the lead). My grammar previously was nonsensical, which may have prompted part of your objection. An example (or even a subsection) may be worthwhile in the body of the article, but I don't see a place for it in the lead. — Quondum☏ 17:11, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
Vandalism?
How is that Vandalism? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.25.232.219 (talk) 07:02, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
- How is what vandalism? RockMagnetist (talk) 13:38, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
Walter C. Pitman, III
I reverted your recent edit to Walter C. Pitman, III as it removed categories, persondata etc diff. --Racklever (talk) 10:28, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
- Whoah! How did I manage to do that? Sorry! RockMagnetist (talk) 13:43, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
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— Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:04, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
Changes of the length of day
Dear Rockmagnetist,
you may have noticed that the section "Theory" is based on a published article from 1996 cited in the contribution. I would have prefered another name of this contribution, simply "Change of day". However, this name appears to be already reserved by wikipedia.
Concerning the contribution "Volland-Stern Model", would it be possible to change that name to the more conventional "Volland-Stern model"?
yours sincerely,
Bnland — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bnland (talk • contribs) 13:40, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
- Bnland, I moved Volland-Stern model. You could have done this yourself: see Wikipedia:Moving a page. As for Changes of the length of day, I don't have any special claim on that article, and it would be better to discuss it on its talk page. I do have a concern I will mention there.
- Don't forget to sign your comments (add four tildes: ~~~~). RockMagnetist (talk) 15:10, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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The Barnstar of Diligence |
Thanks for correcting my error and take care about Wikipedia :) EnekoGotzon (talk) 23:06, 8 June 2012 (UTC) |
Discussion of Two-body Dirac Equations
Hello,
I am a novice at using Wikipedia. I submitted a very short article on the Two-body Dirac Equations of constraint dynamics. I did not want to submit a long one until I learned more about the ins and outs of Wikipedia. Obviously I intend to expand upon it and your comments and input are valued.
I included the scalar interactions as they are of importance in quark model calculations. They are independent of and unrelated to the vector interactions. The vector interactions themselves include not only electromagnetic interactions, but also certain aspects of the interactions between the quarks.
I think that since this caused some confusion I will leave out the scalar interactions until later in the article.
I intend to include a piece on constraint dynamics in the article, which will include many more references.
It is my understanding that, unlike journal articles, the Wikipedia articles are not expected to include derivations but to present an established (recent as well as past) body of knowledge, together with appropriate explanations and motivations.
I noticed that you (or someone) put in the titles of some of the articles I cited. Is this a standard procedure?
Thanks for your help
Horace Crater
Hcrater (talk) 21:33, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
- Hello, Horace. Sorry your introduction to Wikipedia has been a bit rough. I can't really comment on scalar vs vector interactions - the Dirac equations are far from my area of expertise. But ideally your target audience should include nonspecialists.
- Yes, you are right about derivations and about presenting an established body of knowledge.
- Titles are generally included in the references: see Wikipedia:Citing sources. Wikipedia being an online encyclopedia, there is no need to save space; and it reassures the reader that the citation is relevant without forcing them to dig up the article. For the same reason, doi's are really helpful; Wikipedia automatically adds a link to the article abstract.
- Have a look at the Manual of Style and making technical articles understandable. You might want to look at General relativity, an example of a featured article, the ideal to which we aspire on Wikipedia. RockMagnetist (talk) 22:45, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
Updating article
Later today I will be sending an updated version of the Two-body Dirac equations article. It includes quite a few more references and material of constraint dynamics related to the subject. Would appreciate your comments.. also this message is for F=e(E+vxB)
Horace Crater
PS Is there a simple way of taking the article from my sandbox and submit that to be published instead of my copying the whole sandbox and pasting onto old article? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hcrater (talk • contribs) 16:43, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
- I'll have a look. I don't know of any better way of updating the file than copy and paste. RockMagnetist (talk) 16:03, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
- This article is starting to look good! Mainly, I would suggest making it more accessible. Try to emulate Feynman and create an introduction for freshmen. Most of the citations in the lead should be moved to the body and the lead should summarize the content of the article (with as little technical language as possible). RockMagnetist (talk) 16:21, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
Help assessing a biophysics biography page
Thanks for greeting Videau!
I've done a lot of work on the Fred Richards page and am very pleased with it (altho not quite done with following possible enhancements). But I'm still pretty clueless about exactly what constitutes a good or a featured article, so I've requested general assessment for it. If you could help with rating and/or suggestions, that would be wonderful and much appreciated! - Dcrjsr (talk) 17:28, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Algoman orogeny
The article Algoman orogeny you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Algoman orogeny/GA1 for comments about the article. Well done! Pyrotec (talk) 15:51, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you for your review, Pyrotec. It's fortunate there weren't any serious issues because I am on holiday. I noticed your deleted comments - I do intend to review a nomination when I have time. RockMagnetist (talk) 16:36, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
Volcanism
Hello RockMagnetist, I noticed you recenetly tweaked the volcanism article moving an unreferenced banner to the top, no problem with that. I wondered if you might be able to give the article a bit more attention, as you look to be much more of a geology expert than I could claim to be. I know it is unreferenced but in your opinion are there any obvious bits that are wrong and need fixing, rather than just missing references (some of which can probably be found in the linked articles), and are there any bits that are obviously missing in your view? EdwardLane (talk) 09:06, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for doing this. It may be a couple of days before I get a chance to have a deep think. It's the end of a vacation tomorrow and a two-day drive awaits. However I have taken 10 minutes to jot down how I would explain momentum. This rough draft probably has all sorts of issues, but just view this as the level I would pitch the intro at.
Momentum (plural momenta) is a measure used in classical physics to describe mass in motion. It is sometimes known as linear momentum or translational momentum.
All objects have mass; so if an object is moving, then it has momentum. The momentum of an object depends on how much mass is moving and its velocity. It is calculated using:
Momentum = mass • velocity
Because velocity is a speed in a specified direction, an object's momentum also has a direction as well as magnitude. Quantities that have both a magnitude and a direction are known as vector quantities. That is why there is a dot in the equation above, rather than a simple multiplication sign. Because momentum has a direction, it can be used to predict the resulting direction of objects after they collide, as well as their speeds.
Physicist use 'p' as the symbol for momentum, so the equation above can be rewritten as:
p = m • v
where m is the mass and v is the velocity. When using the SI system, its units are kilograms metres per second......
Unfortunately the article still introduces great complications/sophistication before the basics are explained. For example, expressing the momentum of a single particle in three dimensional terms early in an article just over-complicates things, however pure it might be. I would also describe the basics of conservation of momentum long before the reference frames of special relativity get a mention and without resorting to differential calculus. Perhaps the best solution is a whole article that is just a basic intro to the subject
Physics shouldn't be a closed society. I don't think we are sure if we are writing for other physicists or a wider readership. If the latter, then we should try to something that is both clear and true. JMcC (talk) 21:21, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
- Good point about saving vectors for later. A precedent for that is Feynman's lectures, in which he introduces momentum and conservation of momentum before covering vectors. And that was for a college class in Caltech! RockMagnetist (talk) 21:53, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
regarding the Magnetism page edit
hello RockMagnetist
i just made the changes in the page to check the editing and verification functionality of Wiki. Sorry for the trouble.
thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.90.194.72 (talk) 18:42, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
- No problem. I have added a welcome banner on your talk page with helpful information on contributing to Wikipedia. RockMagnetist (talk) 18:50, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
Thanks. You are doing a good, and unenviable, job of refereeing this argument. I confess I feel somewhat bullied by the tone adopted by the other main protagonist. If you agree, would you consider having a word? Globbet (talk) 00:45, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
- You're welcome. I do think that the tone of this debate has been very negative, but I have learned that most people don't respond well to behavior modification (look what happened the last time I tried). I think I can help the most by staying neutral and trying to get everyone to reach an agreement. Then we can all get on with editing articles.
- For what it's worth, I have been attacked occasionally, but I find that if I don't rise to the bait the attacker quickly runs out of steam. Sometimes the attacks are rather funny (here's my favorite). RockMagnetist (talk) 02:24, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
- I'd like to second this (although not bullied), and not even sure that you get enough recognition for the immense efforts you put into WP. Thank you! Maschen (talk) 10:40, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
- I really appreciate your kind words. It is nice to get the occasional thank you from good editors; sometimes we seem to be working in a vacuum. RockMagnetist (talk) 14:22, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
- I'd like to second this (although not bullied), and not even sure that you get enough recognition for the immense efforts you put into WP. Thank you! Maschen (talk) 10:40, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
Momentum rewrite
Thank you. You really deserve this, WP wouldn't be the same without editors such as yourself (although we aren’t quite done with momentum elsewhere... the main article is far better).
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The E=mc² Barnstar | |
You have been a driving force for this article, and as we know - force is the rate of change of momentum (!).Maschen (talk) 00:33, 18 August 2012 (UTC) |
- This is my favorite barnstar. I sometimes get them for some trivial action, but I worked hard for this one. And it's so pretty! ;) The timing of the debate on Momentum operator is ironic - the next section I was thinking of developing in Momentum is the quantum mechanics section. It's pretty skimpy right now. RockMagnetist (talk) 03:40, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
Oopsie?
I think you meant for RockMagnetist/Drafts/Corrupting Dr. Nice to be created as User:RockMagnetist/Drafts/Corrupting Dr. Nice--in user space, not in article space. You can probably move it yourself (without leaving a redirect). 207.157.121.92 (talk) 18:37, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
- So that's why the feedback box was added! Thanks for noticing this. RockMagnetist (talk) 18:40, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
- Sure thing. I refrained from giving feedback, but you probably guessed correctly that it "needs more porn". Happy editing. 207.157.121.92 (talk) 18:45, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
- You must be thinking of WickedPedia.com. RockMagnetist (talk) 19:36, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
- Sure thing. I refrained from giving feedback, but you probably guessed correctly that it "needs more porn". Happy editing. 207.157.121.92 (talk) 18:45, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
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Hi. Since the Further Reading refs you're adding to the article have specific page numbers, I assume that you're reading them. Do they say anything specific that can be added to the body of the article and then referenced, as opposed to being simply listed? Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:53, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
- So far I have only skimmed them, so all I can say is that there is definitely material that is worth adding to the article and referenced. Right now, though, I am only performing some triage on the article - finding good references that present a more balanced picture of the names. RockMagnetist (talk) 21:58, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
- So you plan to add the material to the article? That's great. Thanks. Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:04, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
- BTW, is there an online link for the source? Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:05, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
- Just look it up in Google Books and search the preview for "Michigan-Huron". RockMagnetist (talk) 22:08, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks, I did so, and added a section to your list (pp.303-309). Since, as far as I can tell, the references to "Michigan-Huron" are all about hydrology (which appears to be the general subject of the book), it fits in well with the other sources, all of which define "Lake Michigan-Huron" in terms of hydrology only. Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:25, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
- Yes. And it also provides some material that goes beyond a mere definition and describes how hydrologists study it as a system. RockMagnetist (talk) 22:29, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks, I did so, and added a section to your list (pp.303-309). Since, as far as I can tell, the references to "Michigan-Huron" are all about hydrology (which appears to be the general subject of the book), it fits in well with the other sources, all of which define "Lake Michigan-Huron" in terms of hydrology only. Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:25, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
- Just look it up in Google Books and search the preview for "Michigan-Huron". RockMagnetist (talk) 22:08, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
- BTW, is there an online link for the source? Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:05, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
- So you plan to add the material to the article? That's great. Thanks. Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:04, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
- Just chipping in to say thanks for taking the lead on this... You're doing an awesome job making headway on what seemed previously to be a pretty intractable dispute! I'll try to make some contributions in the near future. DanHobley (talk) 02:24, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks, DanHobley. Too bad I slipped up in the end and tried to close the debate. I underestimated the desire of some of the principals to continue their fruitless attacks on each other. In truth, this article is way down my list of priorities, and I have said all I want to say. Good luck with improving the article.RockMagnetist (talk) 02:59, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
- I'm having a sandbox of the article, "on the downlow", so to speak, over at [4]. I went off your last revision, did a bit more hunting through the literature, and tried to avoid value judgements of all sorts. I would be most glad of another pair of eyes on it, if you don't mind. I'm hoping to just drop it in in place once done, WP:DRAGON-style. That should really please people! I'm hopeful I will have enough "disinterested observer" credit to get away with this, but we'll have to see. DanHobley (talk) 17:00, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
- I think that is a good approach; I'll have a look. RockMagnetist (talk) 17:03, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
- I'm having a sandbox of the article, "on the downlow", so to speak, over at [4]. I went off your last revision, did a bit more hunting through the literature, and tried to avoid value judgements of all sorts. I would be most glad of another pair of eyes on it, if you don't mind. I'm hoping to just drop it in in place once done, WP:DRAGON-style. That should really please people! I'm hopeful I will have enough "disinterested observer" credit to get away with this, but we'll have to see. DanHobley (talk) 17:00, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks, DanHobley. Too bad I slipped up in the end and tried to close the debate. I underestimated the desire of some of the principals to continue their fruitless attacks on each other. In truth, this article is way down my list of priorities, and I have said all I want to say. Good luck with improving the article.RockMagnetist (talk) 02:59, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
- It is already looking much better. Here are a few observations from a quick skim of the article:
- A lot of the details and citations should go into the body of the article.
- I think the quotes should be in footnotes and the reasons for considering them a single lake summarized in the body.
- Strictly speaking, the statements about "most sources" should be backed by a citation that specifically says "most sources". Otherwise, it's WP:OR. Of course, it may be difficult to find any such statement because it's so obvious to most people. An alternative may be to say that the separate names are used in historical and legal documents, atlases, etc. RockMagnetist (talk) 17:17, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks! That's great. Back on it ASAP. DanHobley (talk) 17:47, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
- I just looked at the recent discussions, and it looks to me like your work is cut out for you getting people to stay focused on improving the article. I rather sympathize with Curtis Clark's suggestion that everyone should be topic banned except you. RockMagnetist (talk) 18:16, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, I was just reading through all that stuff as well. It's just so depressing. Makes me glad to be cloistered for most of the time in the Earth and Planetary Sciences divisions, where most people appear to be pretty easy-going. DanHobley (talk) 18:25, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
- It is already looking much better. Here are a few observations from a quick skim of the article:
Change
The mild eroticism was a joke. I fixed a mechanical error that you didn't remove. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.74.255.170 (talk) 23:42, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
Portal:Crystallography
Someone already removed the MfD tag, and I think I found the page that wasn't moved correctly. In the future, if you see obvious mistakes, feel free to just fix them. WilyD 05:25, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
- I wasn't sure if a non-admin should remove an MfD tag. RockMagnetist (talk) 08:16, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
- Something like Wikipedia is not a bureaucracy and ignore all rules. More or less, there's no reason to be pointlessly bureaucratic. Don't worry too much about fucking anything up, it's easy to undo mistakes. WilyD 09:18, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
List of anonymously published works
hi rock magnetist i would to tell you that i building a website on the anonymous writers as a graduation project for my diploma and i wanted your article to be as an external and internal back links , so if its possible to do so please confirm with me as soon as possible ... thanks for your help and consideration and sorry for any convenient action made by me — Preceding unsigned comment added by Monsouki (talk • contribs) 14:27, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
- Hi, Monsouki. I'm not sure what you mean by "external and internal back links." As far as I could tell, there was no content on your page yet. I would suggest you wait until you have some content and then add the link again. RockMagnetist (talk) 17:05, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
Ariel Fernandez
There are typographic errors on the page about Ariel Fernandez. Also, he is not currently employed at Rice University, so this should not be listed as an affiliation for him. Finally, I am not a sockpuppet. If you notice, I have corrected misinformation on the page given by "Arifer" and tried to make the page more neutral rather than submitting promotional bs. It is much appreciated, though, that Wikipedia locked down this page and converted it to a neutral form that isn't being constantly edited by the subject of the page. Ridiculous .... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.85.185.122 (talk) 02:49, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
- Hi. As far as I know, the Institutions/Workplaces field in the infobox is intended for all the significant places the subject has worked. I only found one typo - if there are still more I'd suggest mentioning them on the article's talk page. I'm not all that interested in this article - I only stepped in because I noticed that some tags were being rather hastily removed from the page, and then I realized that sock/meatpuppetry was going on. Your edits do seem more neutral than many of the others, but I listed you in the investigation because you have only edited this one article. Not to worry, though - I don't think any action has been taken against you specifically; there is simply a block on IP edits of Ariel Fernandez and Dehydron. RockMagnetist (talk) 05:03, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
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contribute
i want to contribute idea why no?!