Talk:Piers Anthony: Difference between revisions
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:I've removed this section entirely, as it was lacking in sources of any kind. Perhaps it wasn't much of a BLP issue, as it didn't reflect too badly on Anthony himself (and the two people it did reflect badly on, [[Roger Elwood]] and [[Robert Coulson]], are both dead), but even so I don't think it belongs in the article without some kind of source to demonstrate that it was significant enough to be worth mentioning. [[User:Robofish|Robofish]] ([[User talk:Robofish|talk]]) 22:03, 25 July 2011 (UTC) |
:I've removed this section entirely, as it was lacking in sources of any kind. Perhaps it wasn't much of a BLP issue, as it didn't reflect too badly on Anthony himself (and the two people it did reflect badly on, [[Roger Elwood]] and [[Robert Coulson]], are both dead), but even so I don't think it belongs in the article without some kind of source to demonstrate that it was significant enough to be worth mentioning. [[User:Robofish|Robofish]] ([[User talk:Robofish|talk]]) 22:03, 25 July 2011 (UTC) |
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::Just wanted to clarify that the removed material reflected poorly on Elwood, not on Buck Coulson. Buck was not accused of being at fault for what Elwood told him; just of edits that Anthony didn't like (a question of artistic judgement, not of ethics). --[[User:Orangemike|<font color="darkorange">Orange Mike</font>]] | [[User talk:Orangemike|<font color="orange">Talk</font>]] 14:01, 26 July 2011 (UTC) (knew Buck; knows Juanita) |
::Just wanted to clarify that the removed material reflected poorly on Elwood, not on Buck Coulson. Buck was not accused of being at fault for what Elwood told him; just of edits that Anthony didn't like (a question of artistic judgement, not of ethics). --[[User:Orangemike|<font color="darkorange">Orange Mike</font>]] | [[User talk:Orangemike|<font color="orange">Talk</font>]] 14:01, 26 July 2011 (UTC) (knew Buck; knows Juanita) |
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The Cluster series page refers to this removed material, and that page should be corrected. The same applies to the bibliography on the 'But What of Earth?' line. I was interested in reading about this squabble, and as a member of the general public, I would like to see the deleted material added to a 'But What of Earth?' page, if it has no place in the main Piers Anthony article.[[Special:Contributions/68.97.202.205|68.97.202.205]] ([[User talk:68.97.202.205|talk]]) 21:58, 5 June 2013 (UTC) |
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===Reputation among SF fans=== |
===Reputation among SF fans=== |
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"What of Earth" and reputation
Not sure why the "What of Earth" section takes up so much of the article -- from what appears, it seems to have been a nasty but somewhat minor publishing squabble resolved 30 years ago. Also, there should be something on his general reputation -- some of of his early works such as Macroscope and Rings of Ice etc. are fairly well-respected, but a very significant number of people among hard-core science fiction fandom regard him as having cashed in on somewhat puerile cookie-cutter works of little ultimate value (such as most of the Xanth, and Apprentice Adept books, etc.) -- it was a regular topic of discussion on Usenet's "rec.arts.sf.written" whenever Anthony's name came up, etc... AnonMoos (talk) 08:59, 8 December 2009
- Concur. The discussion of But What of Earth seems like a clear undue weight issue. john k (talk) 03:46, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
- I've trimmed it down and attempted to improve the wording. —Torchiest talk/edits 12:50, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
- I've removed this section entirely, as it was lacking in sources of any kind. Perhaps it wasn't much of a BLP issue, as it didn't reflect too badly on Anthony himself (and the two people it did reflect badly on, Roger Elwood and Robert Coulson, are both dead), but even so I don't think it belongs in the article without some kind of source to demonstrate that it was significant enough to be worth mentioning. Robofish (talk) 22:03, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
- Just wanted to clarify that the removed material reflected poorly on Elwood, not on Buck Coulson. Buck was not accused of being at fault for what Elwood told him; just of edits that Anthony didn't like (a question of artistic judgement, not of ethics). --Orange Mike | Talk 14:01, 26 July 2011 (UTC) (knew Buck; knows Juanita)
The Cluster series page refers to this removed material, and that page should be corrected. The same applies to the bibliography on the 'But What of Earth?' line. I was interested in reading about this squabble, and as a member of the general public, I would like to see the deleted material added to a 'But What of Earth?' page, if it has no place in the main Piers Anthony article.68.97.202.205 (talk) 21:58, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
Reputation among SF fans
There still should be some way to indicate that his general reputation among regular science-fiction readers has declined precipitously beginning around 1976 or 1977... AnonMoos (talk) 00:52, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
Also, something about some of his adult men with v. under-aged girl sex scenes...
Like in TATHAM MOUND, where the adult male protagonist has (frighteningly described) sex with a 10-year-old (her idea, of course); or in FIREFLY, with an even more detailed pedophilic sex scene, described by the five-year-old girl (again, the whole thing was instigated by her...). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.107.0.73 (talk) 23:23, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
- Please check the archives before raising this again - Talk:Piers_Anthony/Archive_1#Pedophilia. Ash (talk) 23:26, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
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