Talk:Rihanna

unclear passage Rihanna page

I have included the following excerpt to illustrate some parts of this page that i find difficult to understand.

"...he felt "Pon de Replay" was too big for her, saying "when a song is that big, it's hard [for a new artist] to come back from. I don't sign songs, I sign artists".[23] The audition resulted in Rihanna signing a six-album record deal with Def Jam Recordings in February 2005, on the same day of the audition, with Jay-Z saying "There's only two ways out. Out the door after you sign this deal. Or through this window ...",[21] meaning that he was not going to let her leave with signing a record deal.[21] After signing to Def Jam Recordings, Rihanna cancelled other meetings with record labels and relocated from Barbados to New York to live with Rogers' and his wife.[24] Rihanna explained the concept behind the title of the album to Kidzworld, saying that the sun is representative of native Caribbean culture, as well as herself, and that the album consists of music from her heritage.[25]..."

This passage seems like a mish-mash of opinions and loose facts and some of it is not clear at all. The part where it starts with the Jay-Z quote, "There's only two ways out..." The author attemts to explain what they thought Jay-z was saying "meaning he was not going to let her leave with signing a record deal..." This explanation provided by the author does not clear things up and I wonder if this clarification should not be attempted at all because the quote seems to be self explanatory in that Jay-Z seems to be saying to Rihanna that the contract she has just signed with him is serious and she needs to deliver the six albums or jump out the window, figuritively.

the passage that starts "Rihanna explained the concept behind the title of the album to Kidzworld..." Not only does this sentence just hang out by itself, It needs to explain who or what "kidsworld" is and what album rihanna is speaking about.

Edit request on 20 April 2013

Robyn Rihanna Fenty xxx (talk) 14:08, 20 April 2013 (UTC) 2007 album 'A Girl Like Me'.

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. —KuyaBriBri^Talk 20:43, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

As of May 17, 2013, Rihanna has 6 Grammy's and not 7. Contrary to popular belief, she did not receive the award in 2012 for Best Rap Song due to her lack of writing credit. Grammy.com can back this up! Please edit as soon as possible, seeing as the information is incorrect and misleading. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.126.182.174 (talk) 07:45, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

Controversy

Hi I have also been discussing the Chris Brown article too by the way but about this Rihanna article, for the sake of education, could a controversy section be added then allowed to stay particularly detailing the 2009 fight between the two recording personalities? I see that event has not been detailed in the article at all and furthermore, I'm left scratching my head as to the "legacy" section, I understand Wikipedia to take a neutral point of view at all times. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.234.214.63 (talk) 05:30, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

The prominence of Chris Brown related events is covered quite succinctly under the second paragraph in "Domestic Violence Case and Rated R". There is no need to add anything more because generally the eminence of any further "controversy" you speak of is simply media babble and tabloid gossip. Wikipedia is not a newspaper or blog which will cover ongoing disputes within their relationship. With regard to legacy, that section does have a neutral point of view. Only facts about numbers, awards, achievements and sourced quotes/opinions are given. 333cale (talk) 21:05, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Since when? I logged on this same article and I remember reading nothing at all about the domestic violence. Wikipedia is easy to edit and because of that people exercise that ability quite freely for various purposes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.136.5.36 (talk) 07:49, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Associated acts

The infobox guidelines - Template:Infobox_musical_artist#associated_acts - state "This field can include, for example, any of the following:... Other acts with which this act has collaborated on multiple occasions, or on an album, or toured with as a single collaboration act playing together" and "The following uses of this field should be avoided: ... One-time collaboration for a single, or on a single song".

Are two songs enough to count as multiple ? -- Beardo (talk) 06:39, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Youngest ever to headline Paris' Stade de France

This should be under her legacy, she's also the third black act at Paris' Stade de France. The first two are Prince and Tina Turner. — Preceding unsigned comment added by KzdLife (talk • contribs) 10:39, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

That should be under the legacy of Diamonds World Tour article. The legacy is good as it is now. We don't need a huge section that couldn't be navigated freely. — Tomíca^(T2ME) 10:52, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

I personally think selling out at Paris' Stade de France , and being the youngest person to ever headline it;is BIG. Should be in her legacy instead of the shady song, "walks like Rihanna". They confirmed it in Watch What Happens live..(staggered walk) — Preceding unsigned comment added by KzdLife (talk • contribs) 12:37, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

How is selling out a stadium and being the youngest to play there important to her overall existence? It isn't.  — Statυs (talk, contribs) 14:44, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Shows her impact on music.. To be only 25 and performing at the prestige's Paris' Stade de France that's something in itself. If you really wanna go there, how is vevo views and "walk like Rihanna" important to her overall existence either? — Preceding unsigned comment added by KzdLife (talk • contribs) 15:54, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Because it's a work influenced by her (although the song is a flop and I think it should be removed as it is non-notable). And for the stadium, as I said, that should be included in the legacy of DWT. She also performed to 150,000 people in Morocco, that's also a record, should that also included in the section? I don't believe... — Tomíca^(T2ME) 16:11, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Bi-ist article

This article is so bi-ist it is not funny! A section titled "Legacy"? What? This article contains everything good about Rihanna but no controversy nothing bad and it should for the sake of education. This article has turned in to like a propaganda piece than something educational in which case does not belong on Wikipedia. -- snappersteve (116.12.63.242 (talk) 20:18, 11 June 2013 (UTC))