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Beeblebrox (talk) 01:39, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Solomon Islands reply to your question

For the name of the country try https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/bp.html or http://www.un.int/wcm/content/site/solomonislands or any SI government site or even Solomon Islands. The Solomon Islands refers to the archipelago, which includes the nation of Solomon Islands but also other areas such as Bougainville, which is a province of another country, PNG. 'The' Solomon Islands has a separate page in wikipedia at The Solomon Islands (archipelago). I actually work in the Ministry for Justice and Legal Affairs, Solomon Islands under RAMSI, which is the multilateral peace force carefully called the Regional Assistance Mission to Solomon Islands not the Regional Assistance Mission to the Solomon Islands, which would upset PNG. Before independence in 1978 the islands that now make up Solomon Islands came under the colonial British administration for the archipelago and was in fact called the Solomon Islands because, to them, it was just a collection of islands; the name Solomon Islands was chosen to differentiate the new nation but colonial habits die hard so most Brits still talk about the Solomon Islands when they mean the nation. Solomon Islanders would like to get away from the colonial past so putting in the 'the' can be rather insulting. Ex nihil ^(talk) 06:43, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, but you have not yet proven that "Solomon Islands" is correct. (1) Your personal knowledge is irrelevant. (2) Wikipedia is not a proper source for Wikipedia. (3) Whether some Solomon Islanders would be insulted is also irrelevant. (4) The Central Intelligence Agency website uses "the Solomon Islands" in places. (5) The United States Department of State refers to the country as "the Solomon Islands". (6) As does the United Nations. Any further discussion should be on the article discussion page, not my talk page. AfricaTanz (talk) 12:58, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Thank by the ortography correction

I think my spelling in English is very bad, according other editors have written me, because I want to thank you that you've explained what I wrote in the article of the Tanzanian Americans with other words. That could facilitate reading. Well, I had mentioned the Tanzanians´s professions that were in the United States based on the Encyclopedia of Chicago, because if many Tanzanians have certain professions in Chicago, many Tanzanians have them in the U.S., but that does not matter much.--Isinbill (talk) 14:05, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

We cannot assume that the characteristics of the Tanzanians living in Chicago are representative of Tanzanians living elsewhere in the United States. AfricaTanz (talk) 14:16, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Not that. The simple fact that there are, for example, a group of carpenters from some origin in a U.S., already would mean that there is a group of carpenters from that origin in the U.S., because that place belongs to the U.S.--Isinbill (talk) 14:22, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

GDP data for Tanzania

A difference of population estimates between the IMF and the national statistical office is not unusual, since they're not calculated from the same base year, and it doesn't justify the deletion of GDP per capita figures. The difference between the two projections is small: the October 2012 WEO estimated a population of 43.019 million, and the GDP per capita barely changed (to $1,708 PPP and $650 nominal). You can use this earlier estimate if you prefer, but removing it altogether is unacceptable.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 19:27, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Whether the difference is "unusual" is irrelevant to the question of whether the per capital figure is "wrong". There is no doubt that the figure is, in fact, "wrong" based on the official census. The International Monetary Fund's (IMF) population estimate for 2012 was 47,142,648, which is 2,213,646 more than the 2012 census result of 44,929,002, a 4.9 percent discrepancy. The per capita GDP (PPP) based on the census would have been 1,643.90, not the IMF's erroneous 1,566.71. There is no cited proof that the IMF would ignore the results of the census. Therefore, the IMF's per capital figure is, in your terms, "unacceptable" and, in my terms, "inaccurate" and, therefore, "unencyclopedic". Should you wish any further discussion of this issue, take it to the article talk page, not here. AfricaTanz (talk) 02:42, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

Yemenia Airways

Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Airports/page_content (bullet #7 please) and there is no Yemen Airways flights to Africa. You need to stop your nonsense editing or I will report you for vandalism! 68.119.73.36 (talk) 07:53, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

You are very wrong. Yemenia Airways also flies to Nairobi, Khartoum, Asmara, Cairo, Djibouti, Moroni, and Addis Ababa. All of those are in AFRICA. If you keep being incivil and/or harrassing on my talk page, you run the risk of being blocked. Your best bet is to stay away from here. Cheers. AfricaTanz (talk) 12:38, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

According to the route map that Yemenia Airways publishes, it flies to the following airports in Africa: Addis Ababa, Asmara, Cairo, Dar es Salaam, Djibouti, Khartoum, Moroni, and Nairobi. It's good that you deleted your last incivil comment on this talk page. Cheers. AfricaTanz (talk) 21:01, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

According to ITA, an extremely reliable source, all the routes listed in my last post are bookable on Yemenia Airways. So, the evidence is completely against your position. Cheers. AfricaTanz (talk) 21:15, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

You said in your thankfully deleted diatribe on this talk page: "Uhhhhh, if you look at Yemenia destinations page, you see that the airlines DOES NOT have any flights to Africa (the only destination in Africa served was Johannesburg but that has been terminated)." But Wikipedia simply cannot be a source for a Wikipedia article. Apart from that fact, the Wikipedia article lists several active destinations in Africa: Addis Ababa, Asmara, Cairo, Djibouti, Khartoum, and Nairobi. This article might be helpful to you: List of sovereign states and dependent territories in Africa. AfricaTanz (talk) 21:25, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

It's heartening to see, after all the aggressiveness you've shown in edit summaries and on this talk page, that you've recognized that Yemenia Airways flies to both Dar es Salaam and Nairobi. Maybe you'll be more cautious about hastily condemning editors in the future. Cheers. AfricaTanz (talk) 12:04, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Rant from Taroaldo

You do not seem to have the ability to interact well with other editors on Wikipedia. Now you appear to be stalking my talk page. You cannot make changes to text that I have added to my own talk page. Your behavior is unacceptable and you are not permitted to return to my talk page. Thank you. Taroaldo ✉ 00:38, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Don't talk trash about me on your talk page. You will have far fewer problems and will not risk being reported to ANI. You were already banned from mine. Remember? Did that stop you from posting here? Nope. Cheers. AfricaTanz (talk) 00:49, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Article titles

Hello AfricaTanz. I've noted that you've moved quite a number of article pages and in some cases, expanded the titles using brackets. May I suggest that you read this policy/guideline: Wikipedia:Article titles. Ali Fazal (talk) 15:15, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

I have read it. Refer to this language therein: "it is sometimes necessary to add distinguishing information, often in the form of a description in parentheses after the name." Cheers. AfricaTanz (talk) 20:40, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Your Claim at WP:DRN

Hi! I'm EnglishEfternamn, and I am writing to let you know I am assessing your claim at WP:DRN. Regards. EnglishEfternamn_*t/c* 00:40, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. AfricaTanz (talk) 00:47, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi AT! Just letting you know that I have read over what you said at DRN and again, I'm very sympathetic to your motivations. I think the mark of a good editor is wanting the article to be precise. But as I have said at DRN, I think we're in kind of a predicament and I don't think omitting IMF data is the way to go at this time. As before, I'm strongly suggesting you draw up a draft for a paragraph or two explaining the error, and we can put it in the article's "Economy" section. That way, reader's can take note that the info is in dispute from reliable sources, you get to look really smart as an editor, Underlying Ik would no longer have basis for a claim to edit warring, and the article's encyclopedic quality would not be compromised. To me, this is a win win situation. EnglishEfternamn_*t/c* 19:27, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

I am not going to touch that article in this respect without Underlying lk's comments first. The last thing I want is another complaint from him with "higher authority". Aside from that, there is an ongoing discussion from new participants at DRN who are not in agreement - yet. I appreciate your efforts, however. AfricaTanz (talk) 20:04, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Hey, just wanted to say thanks for being a good sport on the DRN case. Hopefully now we can improve the Tanzania article without delay.EnglishEfternamn_*t/c* 19:05, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Ward article names

I still disagree with your proposed ward article names and have launched yet another move discussion at Talk:Rau ward, Tanzania. In particular I don't see how "Rau ward" is supported, much less required, by policy. Even WP:NCDAB and WP:NCGN are guidelines, not policies, and they don't support "Rau ward" anyway. Huon (talk) 01:47, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Honestly, I really don't care that you and others want to be so appallingly user unfriendly about article names. The main point for THIS article is that Tanzania should not be in parentheses. I invite you to read the policy again. Cheers. AfricaTanz (talk) 02:14, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

You invite me to read what policy again? Anyway, you may want to have a look at my actual move request; while I don't see why a comma would be preferred to parentheses that's not what I disagree with, so we may well reach a compromise. Also, I'm not deliberately user unfriendly, I simply disagree with you on what's user friendly. Huon (talk) 02:26, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Insisting on "Rau" instead of "Rau ward" or, even better, "Rau ward, Tanzania" is irrefutably user unfriendly under any common sensical definition of the term. I await your compromise proposal. AfricaTanz (talk) 02:44, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

I already wrote at the proposed move that I'd be okay with Rau, Tanzania, and you said that "The main point for THIS article is that Tanzania should not be in parentheses." How about me accepting that Tanzania won't be in parentheses and you accepting that we won't call it "Rau ward"?

I'd say insisting on needlessly long names not supported by the sources is user unfriendly, but I don't think we'll agree on what users actually prefer. Huon (talk) 03:36, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

That's hardly a compromise. You have no choice but to accept the policy you so often cite, that is, Tanzania cannot be in parentheses. What a complete joke to say that "Rau ward, Tanzania" is "needlessly long" and user unfriendly. Three words. Wow. AfricaTanz (talk) 04:04, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

List of the busiest airports in Africa / 2011 statistics

Hello. Why have you removed my contribution on the airport Kotoka Accra. Have you seen the references? They come from official sources (http://www.ghanairports.com.gh/statistics_new.html). You can check it. In the future make checks before haphazardly undo a contribution. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.248.73.210 (talk) 08:02, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Page moves

Please stop your page moves such as List of Sultans of Zanzibar to List of sultans of Zanzibar and List of Presidents of Tanganyika to List of presidents of Tanganyika. Though I happen to agree with your capitalization preferences, our Wikipedia:Manual of Style does not; please refer to the third bullet point of Wikipedia:Capitalization#Titles of people. The changes you are making are not consistent with other article titles.

Also, please stop your page moves such as Ministry of Agriculture, Food and Cooperatives to Ministry of Agriculture, Food Security and Cooperatives, Tanzania. Again, your new titles are inconsistent with those of similar articles, and appear to violate the Manual of Style (specifically, WP:PRECISION and WP:NATURAL). —Psychonaut (talk) 14:14, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

You are not welcome on my talkpage because of long term harrassment; so, do not post here again. Aside from that, you are misinterpreting the sources you cited. The Tanzanian government spells its ministries as "Co-operative", not "Cooperative" (and "Co-operation", not "Cooperation"). Look it up. Cheers. AfricaTanz (talk) 21:16, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

I'd strongly suggest you propose page moves at the relevant talk pages first, via WP:Requested moves. Your opinion on page names commonly differs from the mainstream, and since page moves are rather complicated to revert, discussing them beforehand can avoid unnecessary work for all of us. Huon (talk) 20:48, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Your opinion is noted, but I strongly disagree, as you already know. AfricaTanz (talk) 21:16, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

LGBT Rights Pakistan

Hey I left the New York Times article for you as the citation. I hate cited it below but I re-cited it for you. Thanks for watching over the article :) Thereandnot (talk) 03:11, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. The article has many problems and needs lots of work. It is not currently a high priority of mine because to do the article justice would necessitate doing almost nothing else on Wikipedia. AfricaTanz (talk) 03:16, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

I am happy to work on it a bit and continue to clean it up. I have some expertise on the culture and LGBT issues. However, as you stated, this will require some serious research and time. Thereandnot (talk) 17:25, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

I'll look in and contribute here and there. Cheers. AfricaTanz (talk) 01:32, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

Zanzibar's climate classification

Please, read the discussion and thanks. --Mahmudmasri (talk) 19:47, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

Article

http://thediplomat.com/the-pulse/2013/06/10/pakistan-lesbian-couple-wed-in-uk/ <--Wanted your thoughts about this and if there are non-blog based legitimate sources to confirm this one. Thereandnot (talk) 05:56, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

LGBT rights in Texas

Hey AfricaTanz. I haven't had time to get round to adding more tables, or even going through all the possible tables from the sources available, and it's been quite a few months. Do you want any of this data at User:Jenova20/sandbox#LGBT rights in Texas before i delete it? I got some tidbits out of it but never enough for another table. Thanks ツ Jenova20 ^(email) 12:52, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Kilimanjaro prom

[1] I have more if you need but I'm on a mobile now. RacerX¹¹ Talk to me^{Stalk me} 01:18, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

Don't post article-specific information here. Post it on the article discussion page. AfricaTanz (talk) 04:01, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

Airlineroute.net

Hi, Thanks for the notification about the discussion. Slasher-fun (talk) 08:28, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

Aegean Cairo Operation

Hi, I saw you changed my recent edit on Cairo International Airport. According to Aegean's booking system their ATH-CAI service has been postponed to December 21, 2013. You can check it here https://en.aegeanair.com/e-services/e-ticket/

You need to add the source to the article. AfricaTanz (talk) 22:47, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

List of country subdivisions by GDP over 100 billion US dollars

There have been complaints about your removal of sourced entries referring to French departements like Aquitaine etc. I have checked the source, and it turned out that this document consist of several separate Excel sheets (you can see the different tabs at the bottom of the Excel window). While the results are not listed on the very first page, there are other sheets inside called "PIB en valeur 2008-2011" and so on, that contain lists of GDPs for several French subdivisions. You might have missed those, so I can see why you removed the entries from the article, but they've now been restored, and so I wanted to leave you note about it. De728631 (talk) 18:21, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

The "very first page" of what? Given that you verified the sourcing, maybe you can describe the exact path you took to find, for instance, the data about England. AfricaTanz (talk) 02:02, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

First of all, I didn't check all references, so I don't know yet about England. This Excel file with French data however contains five pages or sheets of which the first one does not list the data shown in our article. Like I said above, you'll have to click on the tab labeled "PIB en valeur 2008-2011" to see a list of various French subdivisions and their GDP in millions of EUR. There is however a problem with the exchange rate between USD and EUR. The values in USD for French regions shown in our article are based on a rate of 1.3914 USD/EUR, and it's unclear where this rate comes from. The official rate on 2011-21-31 was 1.2959 USD/EUR [2], so we should adjust that. Alternatively one could use the yearly average exchange rate of the reference year. For 2011, the rate of USD/EUR was 1.3369 (=1/0.748) [3]. I'm going to open a thread at the article talk page. De728631 (talk) 13:49, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

So, you assumed I was incorrect or fibbing when I said I looked for the data and couldn't find the data about England? Not only did I look at the source provided by the user in question, I did a number of searches on my own before I deleted the data as unsourced. No one has yet found the data about England posted by this user. How is that possible? AfricaTanz (talk) 03:39, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

P.S. Please remember also that verifiability does not always require direct weblinks to the source. In fact, many academic papers, which are deemed to be among the most reliable sources at Wikipedia, cannot be directly linked except for the abstract. Verifiability means that someone, i.e. not always the reader in the first place, must be able to verify the content of the source. "Do not reject sources just because they are hard or costly to access. If you have trouble accessing a source, others may be able do so on your behalf." De728631 (talk) 19:04, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

I know all about WP:VERIFY. I looked for the data at the link added by the editor in question and didn't find it. It was up to that editor to clarify. "Complaining" doesn't get anyone anywhere. Simply clarifying where the data exists would have been more than sufficient. There is constant vandalism to lists like this, most often from nationalistic editors and very often not discovered. Hence, we need to be extra vigilant in reviewing edits to these lists. AfricaTanz (talk) 01:22, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Nairobi airport edit

East Africa Safari Air Express is no longer an airline, and as such, it does not provide scheduled service from Jomo Kenyatta anymore. The airline was grounded in November 2010 and was purchased by Fly540 in December 2010. (http://wolfganghthome.wordpress.com/2010/12/18/breaking-news-fly-540-takes-over-east-african-safari-air-express/) The airline was re-branded as Fly SAX in September 2012 (http://www.ch-aviation.ch/portal/airline.php?phrase=B5) and no longer flies scheduled service from Jomo Kenyatta, moving most of its ops to nearby Wilson Airport. (http://www.fly-sax.com/About/about-us.html). In fact, go on their Web site (http://www.fly-sax.com) and try to view a flight from Nairobi-Kenyatta. None will appear. They're all from Wilson. Fly SAX only operates charter flights out of Kenyatta. Blackwarrior (talk) 07:03, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

You can avoid problems like this by using a more informative edit summary that includes your source. And blogs are not proper sources on Wikipedia. AfricaTanz (talk) 07:37, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

May 2013

Thank you for trying to keep Wikipedia free of vandalism and according to the guidelines. However, one or more edits you labeled as Not up to the Wikipedia guide lines and editing the names of the buildings in name of removing unsourced reference , such as the edit at List of tallest buildings and structures in South Asia, are not cosiders under Wikipedia policy. Wikipedia has a stricter definition of the unsourced reference than common usage, and mislabeling edits as unsourced reference can discourage newer editors. Please read and just remove the Cite reference and add cite reference needed, there is no need to remove the whole sentence or paragraph Thank you. This is with regards to the revert you performed [4]'

Akshay b patil (talk) 19:46, 7 August 2013 (UTC)