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Water-related stuff, e.g. Shallow water blackout[edit]

I removed the template as the article is up to A+ standards. Good work on Wiki, your edits are really beneficial. Ksenon 14:39, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Asphyxia through hypobaric, Altitude, conditions[edit]

Hello and thank you!. Very interesting suggestion. It will however take some research since i'm not familiar with the biological mechanism that causes unconsciousness under hypobaric conditions. It will have to classify as asphyxia (aka. an overall reduction in oxygen in the body) to be included in the article. Unconsciousness due to acceleration, does not for instance count as asphyxia if we use that definition. But i'll see what I can do! ---Marcus- 08:20, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Speedy deletion[edit]

I noticed that you tagged the page WAP (disambiguation) for speedy deletion with the reason "adds no value and is misleading". However, "adds no value and is misleading" is not currently one of our criteria for speedy deletion, so I have removed the speedy deletion tag. You can use Wikipedia:Articles for deletion if you still want the article to be deleted. Thanks! Stifle (talk) 11:54, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

  • No probs, I've now used a AfD and it looks like its on the way out anyway Ex nihil 03:06, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Therapeutic horseback riding and Great Strides Therapeutic Riding, Inc.[edit]

I saw your comments about Great Strides Therapeutic Riding, Inc. Could you please take a look at the articles Therapeutic horseback riding and North American Riding for the Handicapped Association and make any changes or additions that you think appropriate? TruthbringerToronto (Talk | contribs) 05:37, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Therapeutic Riding is just fine, I couldn't improve on it and don't know the subject. I think the comment you referred to was probably deleted after I read these. The problem is only with GSTR, if GSTR has additonmal information this should sit in THR. Ex nihil 06:58, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

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Image:SWB3 temp.jpg[edit]

Hi. Nice pic. On Talk:Drowning the question came up if the image is staged (I assumed so). Could you please clarify, preferably also on the image page. Many thanks! -- Chris 73 | Talk 11:03, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Disambiguation Talk Request[edit]

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disambiguation pages[edit]

hey, i randomly picked a user from the list of disambiguators, so i hope you don't mind answering my question. i've got a spot where i need to create a disamb. page, but in my searching i can only find out how to FIX disamb. pages, not create them. can you point me in the right direction? cheers! Murderbike 21:06, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Sorry not to reply earlier, Murderbike. I am working in Dili, Timor Leste on an Australian capacity building project and getting reliable enough bandwidth on the internet to continue things like Wiki is very, very trying. There is a template for disambiguation but I can't get around the Wiki site fast enough to find it for you, just open a good example in edit mode and cut and paste the template with suitable changes. Ex nihil 23:28, 14 January 2007 (UTC)


Hi. I have no problem with the image being staged, and it illustrates the situation very well. Also, the image has a proper license. What i am concerned with are the 4 other images with unsuitable free-use license added by another editor. Sorry for the misunderstanding --. Chris 73 | Talk 07:42, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Hey Ex Nihil, regarding those comments about "vandalism" about the reversed image, what's the difference. There has been a great deal of controversy over the image, and even if this doesn't totally help, this is meant to give a new angle to the drowning staging. It is not vandalism. Catherine Woods 02:33, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Greetings, Catherine Woods. I took the picture to try to show people exactly what a victim of SWB looks like. Floating on the ceiling doesn't really convey the right image of what's happening. I appreciate your interest in the article but I would be really, really grateful if you could let it rest. Apart from anything else I am here in Dili, Timor Leste on an aid project and my internet bandwidth and access is extremely limited and unreliable. I am not able to cope with a lot of activity on my principal pages until I get back to Australia, it's about as much as I can do to download my watchlist and it's kind of stressful. I guess if the picture is going to get adjusted we'll just have to pull it but I think it's useful and it balances of the other one in deep water blackout. The picture is also there with the permission of the lady who helped me stage it, and I need to keep her happy that the image is being used as it was originally intended. Please help me to do that. Ex nihil 02:52, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

I like the new caption a lot better. Cheers! Jzerocsk 16:52, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Cut and paste moves[edit]

I just noticed your edits to Wireless Application Protocol and WAP. It is very important that we keep the edit history for an article in one place and don't split it across multiple pages. When people contribute content to Wikipedia they retain copyright on their contributions so it is important that we can see who contributed what. By copying and pasting content from one place to another, you make the edit history less clear.

I've fixed the edit history on that article, but in future if you want to move an article either use the "Move this page" function or if that is not available please ask an Administrator.

Thank you. AlistairMcMillan 05:28, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

  • OK, no probs, thank you for pointing that out. Ex nihil 08:34, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Crystallization (love) AFD[edit]

Hey, this AFD was listed improperly, so I fixed it. However, when I went into the history, it says that you actually created the page with your keep vote, and added in the deletion reasoning later. However, it seems like you put someone else's name on it. Does User:JWSchmidt actually have anything to do with this? It's not really cool to put someone's name on an edit they didn't make. GlassCobra 19:13, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

  • Thank you for fixing the AfD. JWSchmidt did actually AfD it but I don't think it was done correctly, it included a rather abrupt template that said it would be automatically up for deletion in five days if there was no response. I thought it needed some discussion and I changed the template, this also semed to delete the AfD. I was trying to acheive something I did not really know how to do properly, I still don't know how to do it properly but I know more than I did. My apologies. Ex nihil 08:09, 25 October 2007 (UTC)


No, blackout is one of the stages before loss of consciousness.

The stages go, greyout, tunnel vision, black out, g-loc. You also have redout under negative g situations.

The use of the term blackout to mean g-loc or simple loss of consciousness is a misuse of the term, but it's commonly done and can doubtless be found in dictionaries.- (User) WolfKeeper (Talk) 02:50, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Gastão Salsinha[edit]

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Regarding your post to my talkpage. Do you have any independent, verifiable reliable sources to back up your claims? Without sources, this article doesn't stand a chance. Please ask if you need assistance in citing sources. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 01:17, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

  • I have now provided a number of references and crosslinked to references to his name already in a number of other articles. Ex nihil (talk) 04:52, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your contribution to Cabin Pressurization[edit]

I appreciate your corrections to the Cabin pressurization page. Cleaning up the unverified claims of "instantaneous decompression" and "supersonic squeals" was a service.

Mikepurves (talk) 19:27, 31 July 2008 (UTC)


Please note that in order to cite where the show is produced, post-produced, and written (not just where Beyond is located), you should have an actual article or link showing (directly when you goto the link, not just somewhere on the site) that those processes of the show are done in that location. I know from videos that Beyond/MyBu have some staff in house at M5, including some production and research staff. Writing is almost certainly partly done there as well (in terms of Adam and Jamie - maybe not the narration - but without a specific source, it shouldn't even be in the article really. I'm just giving it some time to see if a good source actually does pop up. Cheers. TheHYPO (talk) 23:47, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

  • There probably isn't a source, and there would not be. I have just been talking to the program manager in Artamon, NSW. Beyond create content with a view to selling into the international market and produce different version of Mythbusters for the USA, Australian, UK and European market. For a program of this type the Discovery Channel was an obvious client, but it is just a client. The Science Show episode mentioned above covered it in some deatil but one can't source that anymore. Ex nihil (talk) 00:00, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Cabin pressurization table transclusion[edit]

Very elegant, well done. Socrates2008 (Talk) 11:24, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Removal of dab templates[edit]

Please (re)insert the {{disambig}} tags to Tao (disambiguation), Shot, Cap (disambiguation), and any other dabs you found or edited. When a page is tagged with {{disambig-cleanup}}, only the part where it says "-cleanup" is removed, not the full thing. Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 21:46, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Well I actually restored the one at the Tao dab earlier today, but I trust you can get to the others. Can I rely on that? Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 22:10, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
Done, sorry about that. Learnt something. Ex nihil (talk) 23:05, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Greetings from WikiProject Medicine![edit]

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Category talk:Scouting in The Netherlands[edit]

What tag does it lack? I put a tag on the category itself, it says it was misplaced and should be on the talkpage. Thanks. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 02:41, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

  • It lacks the Move proposal tag on the talk page of the article. You started the discussion just fine but did not put a tag. It's OK because I have put the tag in, have a look now Ex nihil (talk) 02:48, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
Ah, it had been removed by another editor and I did not see that he had done so. Thanks! Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 02:58, 3 October 2008 (UTC)


Personally I think that a disambig. for two items is a bit much and I believe a "See Also" link should be reserved for similar articles (in this case a condition similar to or including Syncope). I believe the way I went about it was the proper way to do it. Faint redirects there and the song has nothing to do with Syncope so a See Also page is inappropriate and I know the redirect at the top makes life easier for all of us who are actually looking for the song. Just my thoughts on it, though. Maverick Leonhart (Talk | Contribs) 01:39, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

You are right about the See also use, that's not the right way. I still think that a hatnote redirect should be reserved for major items commonly be mistaken for each other, this isn't the case. I think a disambig at Faint might be useful even with 2 items but I think there would be more. It might be useful to also add Feint as well. A disambig may contain a number of songs of that title that may emerge. What think you? Ex nihil (talk) 01:54, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
I think that does work, but I still believe that it should have the link to the song in that article for now (at least until more terms surface that include Faint in their names). From my experience on Wikipedia, it is usually best to put a link in the "{{redirect|redirected to this page|other use}}" format on top of the page if there is only one or two articles that have a similar title or could hold a given redirect I find a good example of that here. That's the way I see it happen most of the time, anyway. Maverick Leonhart (Talk | Contribs) 02:16, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
Whoops, we cross edited. I made a disambig anyway. Have a look. I think it works quite nicely, RV if you hate it. Do what you want, I won't get upset. Got to leave this now. Bye Ex nihil (talk) 02:18, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Flag of Ireland[edit]

Having read over [ the discussion] on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ireland on the recent move and the concerns expressed, I have begun a move request on the flag. Your comments would be welcome here.--Domer48'fenian' 19:09, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

New requested move at Flag of Ireland[edit]

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  • Ex nihil, the article is about g-force. That’s it’s title. If you want to edit an article on the unit g, then I suggest you create a new article on that subject. Greg L (talk) 00:30, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
  • BTW, I do plan on adding a new section to the g-force article that specifically addresses and expands upon the subject of “force” as it applies to accelerations. This is a subject that seems to be central to what readers (and some editors) don’t understand about inertial and gravitational accelerations. Greg L (talk) 00:33, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
  • I know that. But the article title is about g-force. So it 1) is much more natural to make the first words consistent with a discussion of g-force, and 2) to not begin a sentence with a lowercase g. There is nothing incorrect at all and it simply reads and looks better that way. What would be really helpful is if you could help me convince Wolfkeeper on an important point. He has been on a crusade that accelerometers don’t measure gravitational acceleration; only inertial accelerations. Greg L (talk) 00:38, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
  • I e-mailed you. Hope to see you there. Greg L (talk) 00:39, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
    • OK I'll pick up the email. Re previous: That's good, I think it's the right approach but that opening para has got to go sometime or most people's reactions on reading are going to be "huh?". I note Wolfkeeper's efforts but I shall try to stay out of the technical debate I'll just concentrate on making it readable. Regarding little g at the beginning of the sentence I have no problem with that grammatically, or in the title, so long as it is a symbol. With the big G, well I note the references, frankly I think those guys in NASA were either just being sloppy that day or it was rewritten by their marketing staff. I remember my physics teacher drilling this into our minds so we did not confuse g with grams (g) or Gravity (G). I know Wiki just reports common usage but it is so widely referenced that it must also have some responsibility for actual truth. Right now we probably have 200,000 physics teachers tearing their hair out and telling their students Wiki ain't the gospel.

Just dumping some of my own text in here for the record:

    • g and g-force are synonymous, it doesn't need another article but this one does use very confused English. By comparison look at this children's encylopedia opening para for clarity. We need to get somewhere like this:

g (also gee, g-force or g-load) is a unit of acceleration defined as exactly 9.806 65 m/s2, approximately equal to the acceleration due to gravity on the Earth's surface. Gravity due to the earth is experienced the same as being accelerated upward with an acceleration of 1 g. The total g-force is found by vector addition of the opposite of the actual acceleration (in the sense of rate of change of velocity) and a vector of 1 g downward for the ordinary gravity (or in space, the gravity there). Weightlessness means a zero g-force, which is the result when acceleration due to movement is equal to that due to gravity. The symbol g is always written in lowercase, to distinguish it from the symbol G, the gravitational constant, which is always written in uppercase. Ex nihil (talk) 00:50, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Cardiology task force[edit]

Cardiology task force[edit]

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Maen. K. A. (talk) 23:17, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Tao Te Ching deletion[edit]

Oh, It is because I think "Tao" do not have the meaning of the Tao Te Ching. Matthew 百家姓之四 Discussion 討論 12:36, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

    • Ah! OK, I think for us less educated westerners it is probably helpful to have it in there in case we don't really understand what it is we are looking for. Ex nihil (talk) 05:00, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Decompression sickness[edit]

We got some help from Doctor's Mess, so I think Decompression sickness must be close to being a Good Article now. Once we've got a few more items in History, I think it will be time to list it at WP:GAN. As you've done a lot of the work in bringing it up to standard (as well as sorting out DCI), will you do the nomination when you think it's ready? I know Gene and I will be on hand to help field any suggestions that come out of the review, so it would be a nice collaboration. Cheers --RexxS (talk) 22:43, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

I don't think I deserve much credit for this, it's mostly you and Gene. Anyway, I'm happy to nominate it in due course, a little way to go yet. Ex nihil (talk) 01:38, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Don (Vilaine)[edit]

I just created this article Don (Vilaine). Markussep Talk 17:49, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Groupers dangerous[edit]

If Anthony is going to insist on keeping groupers on the hazards list, perhaps we should include "getting scooped up by a firefighter's plane and dumped onto flames" as I could at least find a cite for that (in Urban Legends) :) {Seriously no, we'd be banned for WP:POINT). Cheers --RexxS (talk) 23:18, 28 June 2009 (UTC)


Thank you for the correction. I would like to note that it would be correct for me to make the correction in American items such as a center in hockey; whereas I should probably keep a Canadian as centre. Either way, I appreciate your help.keystoneridin! (talk) 05:49, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Please comment on your revert on my edit[edit]

Please see [1] --Stefan talk 03:08, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Swedes on Air France Flight 447[edit]

See this, which cites this 5 July 2009 story about the identification of the Swedish woman, resident in Brasil, travelling with her 5 year old son (his nationality is not stated). Her husband and daughter took a different flight.LeadSongDog come howl 04:10, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

There is quite a problem with dual citizenship and the passport used when checking in with Air France. The current list matches the Air France official list with the exception of one pilot listed here as Argentinian wheras AF thinks he is French. If you add the Swede you need to: 1. reconcile this with AF's list, 2. recalculate the totals at the end of the row and 3. make sure the last column still adds up to the total number on board. As it was the numbers didn't add up, somebody needs to be removed elsewhere. The all up total nobody questions and cannot be changed. Ex nihil (talk) 04:24, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Saying an aircraft is certified to 6g's has absolutely nothing to do with g-force.[edit]

"It is valid and useful to say my airplane is certified to +6g/-3g, it's even got a g recorder to measure it. "

Saying an aircraft is certified to 6g's has absolutely nothing to do with g-force. RHB100 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 19:41, 5 August 2009 (UTC).

Please explain. 6g means 6x the force of gravity, a g-force of 6 Ex nihil (talk) 01:39, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Replaceable fair use Image:Aagaard NTLA Speaker.jpg[edit]

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  • I have uploaded a free version to Commons Ex nihil (talk) 02:29, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

SWB diagrams[edit]

Thanks for your message.

Actually the reason I wanted to make changes to the diagram was that I found it very difficult to understand. The area behind the graph was divided into four regions: Normal breathing, dive, blackout zone and an unlabeled white region. The reason I found this very confusing was that the meaning of the background color varied: in the case of the "normal breathing" box, it signifies a temporal phase of the dive. The box labeled "dive" should, I thought, should signify a temporal phase of the dive too, though for some reason it is delimited to the top of the diagram. The "blackout zone" on the bottom, on the other hand, signifies a range of values for the O2 level and it has no significance in relation to the CO2 level, nor does it have anything to do with time, which took me a while to get. (The CO2 line, for example passes through the "normal breathing" box, then into the "blackout region" box, then the "dive" box, then the unlabeled region and finally comes back into the "blackout zone" box. An interpreter of the diagram has to realize to dismiss this as meaningless.)

Hence, I believed the following distinctions would help make the diagram more understandable:

  • Labeled (or colored) regions of the diagram signify temporal phases of the dive
  • Labeled dashed lines signify threshold values for the O2 or CO2 values (colored correspondingly)

The CO2 trigger threshold does not have a label because I thought it would have been very difficult to fit it into the diagram. I thought, though, that the color of the line associated it with CO2 and the point on the plot and the labeled arrow would avail the meaning to the reader.

The reason why I felt it was unnecessary to color the regions was perhaps my graphic design roots: Large labels and textured backgrounds tend to give an unprofessional touch. I do agree, though, that a blue color intuitively suggests "water" or "dive".

Tell me what you think in light of these comments and let's find a way to improve the diagram. – Acdx (talk) 23:59, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

  • The diagram is hard to get right, I have wrestled with it myself. It started out because people seemed to struggle visualising what is actually going on and the diagram helped a lot, the supressed CO2 response is not particlarly intuitive. The original base article I wrote for the Australian Surf Life Saving Association following a number of SWB deaths in the Northern Territory and when they gave it to a newspaper the newspaper editors reduced it effectively to... if you hold your breath underwater too long you might black out, which entirely misses the point, either the editors didn't get it or, more likley, they shrewdly realised that their readership wasn't going to get it, so I did the diagram and people seem to respond well to it, I saw it stuck on the wall of my local swimming pool a while back after they had a near drowning.

    I agree with your points: the diagram needs to be as clean and simple as is possible, but notwithstanding this the temporal underwater phase would be helped if shaded blue if ever so subtlely and...; somehow the dashed lines need to show clearly that anything above the CO2 line induces breathing and anything below the O2 line means unconciousness (that was the purpose of the blackout box - the RSLSA version I did had a skull and crossbones in it but I know you wouldn't like that, gets attention 'though). I toyed with putting CO2 & O2 partial pressure gas scales to the left and right in matching colours and labelling the x axis TIME but I thought this would just lose everybody and actually when you go into detail the pps are really complex because the dive alters these scales in complex ways. Keep playing with diagrams, the idea they communicate have and will continue to save lives. Ex nihil (talk) 01:05, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

I totally agree with your suggestions… I'll play with the diagram and get back to you. – Acdx (talk) 13:07, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
Okay, I now played around with the diagram:
Changes include:
  • Blackout zone is now a region. It is colored red and labeled "O2 blackout zone" to associate it with oxygen levels.
  • Dive region is colored blue.
  • The CO2 trigger threshold is labeled.
Comments appreciated. – Acdx (talk) 15:16, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
Nice, let's go with 1 & 2. I'll know who to come to if I need diagrams in future! Ex nihil (talk) 04:42, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for bearing with my stubbornness. :) – Acdx (talk) 02:48, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Re: Disambiguation links[edit]

Hi, thanks for pointing the issue with Form (disambiguation) out rather than just reverting it. My edit was actually intentional. The intended link was to the dab page for 'form' not a specific page; by adding '(disambiguation)' the page can easily be dismissed in future searches for pages with disambiguation links. I should have, however, added a | so it will display as Form, it's now fixed. J04n(talk page) 02:57, 25 September 2009 (UTC)


I saw your writeup about stressed skin and you seem quite knowledgable. I made a video about the latest (c6) Corvette ZO6 regarding its chassis as a ladder frame. or perimeter-ladder. It clearly meets the definition in wiki. I got a lot of wrath from fanboys stating that its a spaceframe. It does not meet wikis definition for spaceframe in any way even if you stretch the term. Although everyone seems to call it that maybe because its a cool sounding word. The guy who designed the car states its a backbone-spaceframe hybrid. But it looks like he's mistaken the torque tube for a load bearing member which are completely different things. But he designed the car so hes not stupid. Maybe he's just talking up his product. Further, the Corvette does not meet monocoque or unibody definitions. Nor is it claimed by anyone. Clearly, the Corvette has reinforcements But the way it channels loads to the wheels can best be described as a classic Ladder. Many corporations (GM, Dana, Alcoa) calling it a spaceframe have a dog in the race and the zealots see Ladder as a negative connotation so theres little consensus in the world. Do you have any scientific input on the ladder frame? Is there a test for it? thanks Scott

p.s. Do you drive a Chevrolet? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 23:45, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Regrettably I do not drive a Chevrolet and I haven't had a chance to look under the skin. If I did I would be looking to see how the principal loads were carried and I might do this with an oxy torch. First, I'd cut the shell off and if the car didn't crumble into a heap I'd know it wasn't a monocoque. With the skin off I'd then torch through most of the smaller supporting struts and bits and pieces and if the thing could still be made to drive then it wasn't a spaceframe. Next, if I saw a very few major members still left that looked important and appeared to be acting as beams and if I then cut them and the car broke then it was a chassis all along, ladder or otherwise. One feature of the space frame is that the members act in concert and the loads in each member are often mathematically indeterminate; cutting the odd member out reroutes the loads and should still leave a viable structure, will your Chevy allow this? Having said that, I am but an architect, admittedly where space frames came from, but I don't presume to be a mechanical engineer. PS, if you feel moved to lend me your Corvette for further analysis I promise not to cut it up but I think it would enjoy a run on our Northern Territory roads where there is no speed limit. Ex nihil (talk) 01:30, 8 October 2009 (UTC)


Added + rollbacker + confirmed user + autoreviewer for you. -- Samir 06:50, 19 October 2009 (UTC)]

Congrats on getting rollback. Hope it helps out.--Coldplay Expert 18:21, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Habibi Silsila[edit]

You are absolutely right we need some editing. I would appreciate you can guide me to edit.. the article.. Thank you indeed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 02:04, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Hi Haamed, I will reply by email. Ex nihil (talk) 02:13, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for considering help us to straighten the article for this renowned sufi saint of India.

Please do the needful. You may send message

Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 01:19, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

I have sent an email to you about this to your hotmail address, reply my email. Better that way. Ex nihil (talk) 02:17, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Caudron G.3[edit]

Hello Ex nihil !

Have seen some of your contributions in the past and looked at your talk page.

It is kind of you to have improved the quality of the Caudron G.3 image I put in the Wikipedia article. Yes - my little camera's flash was not strong enough! Have since learned how to improve my images, but had not reworked that one.

If you would email it to me at xxx, I would try to replace the existing image with your improved version - but I also have problems sometimes with Wiki Commons!

RuthAS (talk) 23:48, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

  • Emailed Saturday 7 Nov. Ex nihil (talk) 02:25, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Grassy Ass[edit]

Thanks for reverting the vandalism on my Userpage. :) Crafty (talk) 03:39, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

No problem, there are some strange people around Ex nihil (talk) 03:41, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

No sir.[edit]

I was just warned by you to stop making edits to Wikipedia. As the other two were unconstructive, this last one, to Ron Jeremy was not. That is FACTUAL information and I would appreciate it if you would watch what you "revert". Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 04:30, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

It may or may not be factual but your edits to Prison Break and Female Ejaculation, which were also reverted by others did not inspire confidence in any edits that you might make subsequently. If you want your edits to stick it would be good if you could build a reputation for making constructive edits. It would also help your credibility if you could make an account and edit under a username. Please feel free to continue editing but make your edits count for something, vandalism is too ordinary. Ex nihil (talk) 04:43, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Ron Jeremy[edit]

Although my two previous posts were unconstructive ( I could sit here and type what happened, but it really would not matter ), previous posts should not have anything to do with current or future posts. You "reverting" something because you placed a judgment on me is discrimination. Does Wikipedia promote discrimination? I would appreciate it if you would kindly replace my edit to Ron Jeremy. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 16:44, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

I won't replace it because there is still no citation and I feel the rv was legitimate but feel free to put it back yourself and see what others think of it, your edits are likely to be monitored by others because of your track record. I won't be monitoring it myself. Ex nihil (talk) 02:12, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Did you just watch the show?[edit]

Have you seen this show? They have ruined a beloved franchise, and everyone knows it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 02:57, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

I haven't watched the show. Maybe if I had I would agree with your assessment, unfortunately it would still be just an opinion and it would still have to be reverted. To make the edits stick you need to find a third party source that can be quited, which makes the claim. Ex nihil (talk) 03:00, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Is a user score of less than 5.0 good enough? There are very few shows, with a good number of reviews, that do that poorly among the general public. Case in point, I couldn't find one current show with a lower user score.

Maybe, but you could only say, "It declined from x - 5.0" or "it had a score of 5.0" or "Magazine Y said...." Stick to verifiable facts, it's an encyclopedia not a chat session. Ex nihil (talk) 03:11, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Curling "burning" issue[edit]

That section is still pretty bad. If you ask me the main problem is that the article mysteriously concentrates on the different passages in the rules of the different rules bodies instead of just explaining what the rules are trying to accomplish, which is to punish teams for burning rocks and minimize the impact on the outcome of the game otherwise. Those minor differences in rules don't really belong in that section or probably anywhere in wikipedia.Bollinger (talk) 07:56, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

  • I totally agree. I have been trying to tighten up the whole article but I have stopped short of actually removing whole sections. The rulke details don't really belong in Wikipedia. Why don't you try to rewrite it once again? But you get "burned" by somewbody who likes it that way. Ex nihil (talk) 03:23, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Price A380[edit]

Hi, I've looked at your message that you've left on the Airbus page, and answered it. I hope it helps. Kind regards--DragonFly31 (talk) 08:51, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

B-777 ECS system[edit]

I note that you added a word to [this page], and your justification was that the B-777 didn't have the same kind of engine bleed air system, to supply cabin pressurization, as other aircraft. Unfortunately, that is incorrect. It does have the same kind of high/low pressure bleed air system, as other airliners. See this link: [2] EditorASC (talk) 03:16, 18 March 2010 (UTC) (Retired B-777 Capt.)

  • Of course, you are right. I meant the 787, which has bleedless turbofans and electrical air compressors.
Thanks for the super-quick reply. Do you mind if I rephrase it to say something like: "With the exception of the new Boeing 787, the air in a jet or turboprop aircraft cabin is supplied by bleed air from the aircraft’s engines."  ? EditorASC (talk) 03:28, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
  • Sure, go for it. Ex nihil (talk) 03:32, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of File:SWB1b.jpg[edit]

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Deletion due to Incubator Inactivity: Habibi Silsila[edit]

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  • OK, let it go. I don't think I'll ever have the luxury of timee for this. Ex nihil (talk) 22:37, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

move Black Out (music)?[edit]

Would you have any objection to me moving Black Out (music) to Black Out (The Good Life album)? This would follow the pattern used by other albums on the disambiguation page. Black Out (album) already redirects there. Nick Number (talk) 20:50, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

Melbourne meetup this Saturday[edit]

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Countries vs Principalities[edit]

Your edit to American and British English today is inaccurate, unfortunately our corporate firewall is preventing me from reverting it, so I'll make do with an explanation here and ask you to review your change!

A principality is an area governed by a prince. Sovereign principalities such as Andorra are countries in their own right, just that historically the ruler has been a prince rather than a king. Non-sovereign principalities also exist from which either practically or purely notionally a prince takes his title.

A country is a geographical region, commonly associated with a sovereign state. Probably the most obvious exception to the common usage is the United Kingdom which as a sovereign state encompasses the countries of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. Of these four only Wales is ever referred to as a principality, and that as a customary not constitutional usage.

May I recommend Principality and Country to you? They explain the position fairly clearly. Is you require additioinal help on this, please feel free to contact me via my talk page. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 13:55, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

  • I think this is a very American view. I know England is not a country because I am English but then I am 60 years old so just in case I have become out of touch with recent usage I asked the British High Commissioner for the Solomon islands (I am in Honiara at the moment) "Is England a country?" and he said of course not, the country is the UK. I doubt if anybody in the UK would see England Scotland and Wales as countries, very strange idea. Is Hawai'i a country? If it is, I shall concede the point. Ex nihil (talk) 22:20, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
    • I'm afraid the BHC is making the common mistake of confusing a sovereign state with a country. England has not been a sovereign state since the Act of Union, but is certainly still an identifiable country with a distinct legal system from Scotland. I'm not sure why you refer to "a very American view", the USA is a sovereign state consisting of a federation of non-sovereign states. You might well call the individual states "countries", but AFAIK it has never been US practice to do so. The case of Hawaii is interesting, it was a sovereign state until 1898 (monarchy until 1893, republic thereafter) when the USA annexed it as a territory. So is it a country? Perhaps, you'd need to ask a Hawaiian about their current preferred usage. I'm afraid that your assertion that "I doubt .. as countries" is just plain wrong. Whilst many Englishmen seem to be uncertain about country, I can assure you that the Welsh, and even more so, Scots definitely are not! Finally, do remember that country can be used in a looser context: The Black Country or the North Country for example. Oh, and in case it is relevant, I'm a Yorkshireman who has lived all his life in England, though with relatives in Scotland whom I visit regularly.

I'll concede the point, I suppose the meaning has drifted over my lifetime. I'll go with the flow, Wikiwise, but personally I think I'll stick to A country as a sovereign state and country as a piece of land, Kent is beautiful country but it certainly isn't a country. Safer that way, I work in developing countries, if I start referring to Irian Jaya as a country I might end up in an Indonesian jail! Ex nihil (talk) 22:53, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

A new medical resource[edit]

Please note that there is a new freely accessible medical resource, MedMerits (to which I'm a medical advisor) on neurologic disorders. A discussion on ELs to MedMerits and medical ELs in general is currently in progress ("Wikipedia and its relationship to the outside world"). I posted this message becasue of your interest in -baric disorders. [Here] are some altitude-related disorders. Presto54 (talk) 16:42, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

How high could the piston airliners fly?[edit]

I have responded to your inquiry [here] (talk) 22:57, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

July WMAU Melbourne Meetup[edit]

Hi, At last month's June meetup we discussed the idea of setting up a Training Course at a University of the Third Age (U3A) to be held in 2013 and named Becoming a Wikipedia editor. In order to get this course up and running we are calling for volunteers to help develop the idea, and either tutor part of the course, or provide one on one help to students in the class. All local Wikipedians are welcome to discuss this at our 11am meetup to be held this Sunday on 22 July. Please add your name to the attending list at Wikipedia:Meetup/Melbourne 23. Food and beverages are provided. Cuddy Wifter (talk) 02:26, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

  • Nice idea, but I am in the Solomon Islands. Hope ii goes well. Ex nihil (talk) 00:31, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Disambiguation of CIR (Citizens Initiated Referenda/Referendum)[edit]

Thanks for your explanation and suggestions. I will contribute a page on CIR (Citizens Initiated Referenda/Referendum) and link that to the disambiguation page in accord with the online style guidance. I'm puzzled and surprised by the alacrity with which you have taken it upon yourself to remove my contribution twice, especially when other entries on the same disambiguation page do not meet the style criteria you have invoked. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 12:22, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

  • Yes, I agree some of the remaining ones are non-compliant but they are all much better than they were. We did a big cleanup of them all a long time ago but don't always correct everything; it was just that this one was a new entry and was worth sorting at inception. Sorry if you thought it harsh. Feel free to improve those other entries. Good luck with starting the new page, being a new page you will find it heavily scrutinised. Compose it offline, making sure it meets the MOS requirements has good citations before you post it or it will just get ripped down in about 20 minutes. If it lasts a week it will probably survive. It's hard to start a page and get it to stick. Ex nihil (talk) 00:44, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Anorak is not the same as "parka"[edit]

Is this the way to go here? Over such a small change? Let me remind you that at least in England, "anorak" is basically offensive as an insult. Only third or fourth definition has it defined as a parka coat. You find and cite a source that people say "anorak" when they mean "parka"--go ahead, find some citations that state that. Certainly people may use a term in other parts of the world, and those particular Natives who invented it might still use that term--but in WP articles, we use the term that is most common in the West.~©Djathinkimacowboy 00:37, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

it is mildly offensive in the UK but only if you find 'nerdy' or a train spotter derogatory. The main understanding of the word is still the garment, which is readily available in shops advertised and bought under that name. I am British but live in Australia, where we would call it by the American, a parka, and not many would really understand what calling a person an anorak meant. No big deal either way. Like the rest of the edits, always good to reduce bloated articles. Ex nihil (talk) 04:45, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
I'd like you to consider this quote from the article's lead: 'The words anorak and parka have possibly been used interchangeably, but they are somewhat different garments. Strictly speaking, an anorak is a waterproof, hooded, pull-over jacket without a front opening, and sometimes drawstrings at the waist and cuffs, and a parka is a knee-length cold-weather jacket or coat; typically stuffed with down or very warm synthetic fiber, and with a fur-lined hood.' There's your answer as to why this article should be called PARKA, with a section on the anorak. That article is one of the less than impressive things I've ever seen on WP. And when you reverted me, your edit summary simply proves further that there ought to be two articles, one for each garment.~©Djathinkimacowboy 05:39, 21 October 2012 (UTC)--striking anachronistic post.~©Djathinkimacowboy 14:07, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
By the way, why is that article apparently one and the same as Amauti? That is just wrong. Considering I tried editing and ended up at Amauti, in which I had practically no interest but why would I end there when I started editing at Anorak?~©Djathinkimacowboy 00:44, 21 October 2012 (UTC)--striking obsolete post. Sorry. It is no longer a problem.~©Djathinkimacowboy 10:51, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Wiki Medicine[edit]


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Hope to see you there! --Anthonyhcole (talk) 07:49, 1 November 2012 (UTC) Noted thank you Ex nihil (talk) 23:22, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

A340 in Toulouse[edit]

Since production of the entire A340 line ceased 2011, there is no more assembly for it actually... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Romczyk (talkcontribs) 07:46, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Well, that's fairly convincing. Ex nihil (talk) 10:20, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Re: Drop in[edit]

Thank you; I'll let you know. :) Aridd (talk) 09:20, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

ò== Move discussion at Talk:Jetliner (disambiguation) ==

Hello Ex nihil. If you believe that Jetliner should no longer redirect to Jet airliner, please give your argument in the above discussion. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 06:11, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

  • Have done so. Ex nihil (talk) 01:02, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

The Wikipedia Library now offering accounts from Cochrane Collaboration (sign up!)[edit]

The Wikipedia Library gets Wikipedia editors free access to reliable sources that are behind paywalls. Because you are signed on as a medical editor, I thought you'd want to know about our most recent donation from Cochrane Collaboration.

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  • Not registering, not because I am disinterested but because, if there are to be just one hundred, then I am sure there are more worthy recipients than me. Ex nihil (talk) 01:41, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Methodology as a buzzword[edit]


I just want to say you beautifully rewrote the paragraph.


--Gurglin (talk) 09:41, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Disambiguation link fixing one-day contest[edit]

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February 2014[edit]

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Hi, thanks for your attention to Modified pages of wikipedia, there are many reasons and justification for using Persian Gulf instead of a false name,valid reasons such as old maps, which will confirm the name of Persian Gulf,Wikipedia is an professionals encyclopedia so for keep this title should not believe the lies and the deceit without evidence! Thanks for your efforts With best wishes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 22:36, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

I have every sympathy with your situation. When I was at school, a long time ago, it was always the Persian Gulf to us, but we go with what people want to call it now. The problem is that the organisation is actually called The Arabian Gulf League. Before we can change the page we would have to actually convince the organisation to change its name and then, afterwards, change the name of the Wiki page. Best of luck with that one. Ex nihil (talk) 04:45, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

edit not allowed why[edit]

hello, why cant you keep my edit — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 11:44, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Edit to what page? Also you are an IP, and did not sign off, so I cannot respond. Ex nihil (talk) 11:48, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Air embolism[edit]

Ex nihil, I added the disambiguation to air embolism because air injection redirects to it. I figured that would be a simpler solution than turning air injection into a disambiguation page. Regards, VX1NG (talk) 12:58, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Fine, I just undid myself. Carry on the good work. Ex nihil (talk) 14:12, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, Ex nihil! VX1NG (talk) 20:59, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

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TAMAK cannot be both on the border an 20kms away from it, needs clarification)[edit]

Tamak waypoint ABSOLUTEY IS on the border. It is the Malaysia Airlines statement that is inconsistent. I raised this point some time back but wasn't allowed to point this out as it was considered OR. Please put this back to how it was. Montenegroman (talk) 20:39, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

the entire Malaysia Airlines statement doesn't stack up actually - but because it's considered a 'reliable source' it seems we have to use it. Montenegroman (talk) 20:50, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
I agree. The times are all wrong and the locations confused; with time and energy perhaps it could be sorted. I looked up TAMAK and located it in GE, and actually it is almost exactly 20km from the border on the Ukraine side, so it can indeed be 30km from TAMAK and 50km from the border. However, I believe that it is the handover point to Russian ATC, so it is on a border in a sense, MH17 would have been under Russian control in 30kms. Ex nihil (talk) 09:51, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
Although long-since archived on the talk page, the problem (as I understand it) was that this was what Malaysian Airways actually said. Personally, I can understand how (with the pressure to deliver a statement) mistakes could have been made. But (again: as I understand it) we should not report what a source SHOULD have said. I was also told not to comment on the discrepancy in the article itself - fair enough.
PS: have a look at:,38.2143&chart=302&zoom=3 Is TAMAK not actually ON the border?
The OpenNav data puts it 400m inside Ukraine,39.218333&q=47.856667,39.218333&hl=en&t=m&z=15

Montenegroman (talk) 10:20, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

Yup, you're right. TAMAK is on the border, or 360m inside it. Because there is a clear conflict here and something has to give way I put a reference to the TAMAK location in there and suppressed the 50km statement. I won't be surprised if I get ORed, but it is more accurate. Ex nihil (talk) 11:01, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

Skymark A380 Cancellation[edit]

My reference linked to an official statement by Airbus on their corporate press page noting they have cancelled the sales contract with Skymark, so I am confused as to why this is not considered an Airbus announcement per your reversion of my revision. If policy is to wait for Airbus to update their Orders and Deliveries spreadsheet at the end of each month, that is fine, but that should have been the states reason so as to prevent confusion and ambiguity. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kiskaloo (talkcontribs) 15:55, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

Kiskaloo, I know the press release says -6 A380s, and probably that will happen but please, please don't edit the orders and deliveries on the basis of news releases, it leads to chaos. There is an editing note in the text explaining how it's done without getting into chaos. We use only the monthly Airbus O&D sheet, July is due out soon, so please be patient. The news releases are pretty meaningless, we got into deep chaos with people doing O&Ds on press releases and somebody has to then sort it out. Probably July will show -6 A380s, just wait. There are many, many press releases that can be construed as either new orders or new cancellations but they rarely add up to the real net amounts. When the July O&Ds come out, it is then quite a big job updating all the figures across multiple pages and finding them all in conflict or mixed up makes updating back to reality a chore we would like to avoid. Ex nihil (talk) 10:19, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

Solomon Islands[edit]

Hi Ex nihil. Could I possibly ask you to stop removing "the" from the Solomon Islands name? It's perfectly acceptable (and normal) to refer to the country in this way, and not having it there looks awkward. Thanks, Number 57 17:55, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

I appreciate your concern but we have about 90% consistent usage as Solomon Islands for the nation and The Solomon Islands for the archipelago, which covers a different geopolitical area. The removal of the the is trying to make the usage consistent. The actual gazetted name of the country is without the the. There tends to be a traditional use by the British with the the because until 1978 it was protectorate and this was correct. It is now confusing. Generally, all official sources such as any diplomatic source, the UN, ADB, Olympics, RAMSI are careful to use the correct name, so maybe we had better. It feels a bit odd to some Brits but they chose to 'Solomon Islands'not 'The Solomon Islands' Ex nihil (talk) 18:05, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
What do you mean by "gazetted name"? And why should this (and the official name) override WP:COMMONNAME? Number 57 18:11, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
Oh, it doesn't overide WP:COMMONNAME. The starting point was that there was an inconsistency in usage which needed cleaning up. The Solomon Islands (archipelago) and the nation Solomon Islands are different things and cover different areas and the WP articles themselves are very confused about which is being referred to, in some cases significantly misguiding the reader. All WP pages relating to the archipelago correctly referred to "the Solomon Islands", such as the List of birds of the Solomon Islands, and included everything under the British Solomon Islands Protectorate and the many Solomon Islands campaign related pages and the many flora and flora pages relating to the islands not the nation. These all need a 'the', and actually, over time, I have added quite a few 'the's where the context referred to the archipelago not the nation. Meanwhile, almost all, but not quite all, pages relating to the sovereign state correctly use "Solomon Islands", e.g. Solomon Islands itself Central Bank of Solomon Islands etc. Inside the sovereign state articles there is a mix with probably 70-80% correctly dropping the 'the' such as Regional Assistance Mission to Solomon Islands and some having it both ways. Outside of WP it is hard to tell because in many cases the words Solomon Islands are used as an adjective or qualifier to a noun that deserves a 'the', like The Solomon Islands Visitors Bureau. However, discounting those instances, probably most reputable Google hits find the state without the article such as Government of UK who claim that The High Commission in Honiara represents the British Government’s interests in Solomon Islands etc. Wikitravel refers to the country as Solomon Islands and the archipelago as the Solomon Islands or try Australian Government, DFAT. The actual name, as per the constitution purposely drops the definite article so as to avoid a problem in staking a claim on all of the Solomon Islands archipelago, which includes islands such a Bougainville that belong to another country. What I called the gazetted name is the official English language name as registered with the UN, which is Solomon Islands and is the reason all the diplomatic sites use that name, so, there is an objective truth sitting behind the otherwise laudable WP democratic consensual approach. Now, all this probably doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things, but since I am an expat working in Solomon Islands and have cause to go to these pages from to time I started redirecting inappropriate links to the archipelago and the nation and now, when I come across them, tend to add or subtract 'the's to clarify what is being referred to. For example, the WW2 campaign articles were almost all incorrectly linked to Solomon Islands and then these articles go on to talk about Bougainville, which is not in Solomon Islands or made it look as if the campaign was restricted to the area covered by the nation state, whereas the state did not even exist then, covers a different area and the campaign ranged far, far further across the Solomon Islands (archipelago). If I happen to hit some text where the readers need to be guided towards either the nation or the archipelago I shall probably still provide that guidance, but I won't be 'the' hunting. Ex nihil (talk) 11:23, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

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Myths from Samadhi article[edit]

Hi. I have inserted the following Myths in the article that were reverted and marked unsourced by you. For the first myth i.e. "Yogi’s physical body requires no external care during Samadhi" i have provided two references to the books published by Ramkrishna Mission

For "All Samadhis are the same" it is just the summary of all the data that is already available in the article which is very well referenced. Regards (talk) 18:08, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

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Thanks, i have re inserted the information with proper references. I will definitely create an account as you suggested. Currently i am just going through the documentation available on the site. You seems to be an experienced editor, could you please refer me some good reading material before i start contributing to other articles. Regards (talk) 08:30, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
Sorry for the slow response, I was away from the internet for a while. Most of what you need is probably found at WP:WELCOME, which contains many useful links and advice. When you create an account you will automatically be sent a welcome message with useful links in it like the one below. I am replying here in my talk page because you are editing under an IP address, which changes so you may not ever see it. However, I will copy-post this to your IP address too. When you have an account, if you let me know what it is here, I can reply to you better. Best wishes for your Wikipedia editing career.

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Disambiguation of TLAs (RPF=Receiver Policy Framework)[edit]

I read WP:DABABBREV and Wikipedia:Disambiguation pages with links after your 2nd reversion of the above. I'm somewhat surprised, because in my experience I was able to use Wikipedia to work out any TLA. In fact, I recall disambiguation lines without links, or red links, and believed an entry doesn't have to necessarily link to an article, But then Wikipedia is, well, encyclopedic, so that almost any "real" TLA has an article, so I might have been wrong. Or is that a new policy?

The Case[edit]

A web surfer may stumble upon RPF, for example here. Actually, the acronym is spelled out at the beginning of the article, but that may as well be overlooked. Googling for RPF brings the surfer to Wikipedia, where he or she gets disappointed not finding it —that's how I added the entry the first time.

Now, RPF is a milter. It is neither conceptually innovative nor very popular (not on Debian, e.g.). Given the current status of email filtering pages, RPF might be mentioned in Anti-spam techniques#Rule-based filtering after some other, more relevant stuff will have been mentioned in turn. By that time, I will have forgotten about it. Hence, this policy somehow hampers expansion. If you are sure about it, please word it better in Template:Disambig editintro. A link to Acronym Finder wouldn't hurt (I just added RPF there).

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Hi Ale2006, I understand your frustration and appreciate your good faith edits. The general principles regarding DISAMBIG have been the same for years now. The purpose of the page is to navigate users to the page the need, so redlinks don't help. The page is not there to decipher acronyms, that's the job of the acronym If there is no actual article about the subject then the article must at least contain a reference to it. You could, I suppose, edit the target to include a discussion of RPF, that would be fine, but if you have trouble fitting it meaningfully into the article then take that as a sign that the link shouldn't really be there. Ex nihil (talk) 20:27, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

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Dry suit[edit]

Hi Ex nihil, let me know when you are finished cleaning up at Dry suit. I noticed that a few points seem to have been lost in the rebuild. Cheers, • • • Peter (Southwood) (talk): 16:38, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

  • Thank you for asking Peter (Southwood). Yes, by all means reinstate anything I may have lost; I did take a few liberties with it. I was trying to keep the same content while rewriting what seemed to be a series of accretions over time. Ex nihil (talk) 22:37, 12 September 2016 (UTC).
    • I could see that, and it has benefited by the work, but surface supplied divers also use dry suits, as can be seen in the lead photo. Some of the text is specific to scuba but now does not say so, and some that now refers to scuba is general. I will clarify. Cheers, • • • Peter (Southwood) (talk): 05:35, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

TheUltimateWarrior1234 (talk) 10:42, 5 October 2016 (UTC)== Edits A380 ==


The image has been changed and updated to a more definitive one. And with regards to the largest A380 fleets, Emirates possesses 82 A380 aircraft, which is the largest in the world to this day. This is from all credible sources including A380 website. So this contribution to the article is significant and credible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheUltimateWarrior1234 (talkcontribs) 10:40, 5 October 2016 (UTC)


I see that you have deleted my content again without giving proper reason. I have given a clear and definitive image this time and I have also provided credible sources for my comment on the "largest A380 fleet in the world". So I think there should be no reason for you to delete this content which I took an awful amount of time to research and put it there. Please discuss before you delete again.TheUltimateWarrior1234 (talk) 13:52, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

I gave my reasons for the revert in some details on your Talk page because there just wan't room to do justice to five reverts on the page itself. I hope that you have read the reasons and can see that there were legitimate treason for each revert. IF you can address those reasons by all means fell free to contribute to the page. I will have a look at what you have done since. Ex nihil (talk) 09:56, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

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Flag of Solomon Islands[edit]

Can you please change the title of the article to reflect the lack of "the"? Otherwise, the disjunct is misleading. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 05:23, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

Disambiguation pages[edit]

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It would be a great help if you would check the other Wikipedia articles that contain links to "M/s" and fix them to take readers to the correct article. Thanks. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 11:38, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

  • Hmmm... I'll try. My assumption was that no article should be linked to a redirect anyway and that if it did then linking to the disambig would just assist those article editors to choose an appropriate page when they see it goes to a disambig. Ex

Physiology of underwater diving[edit]

Hi Ex nihil, I wrote a new article Physiology of underwater diving as a response to a suggestion for expanding Underwater diving in preparation for FAC. As this seems to be in your field of interest, I am letting you know it is there in case you find the time to take a look and see if there is anything significant that you think should be added, removed, or changed in any other way. It is basically a summary of all the other physiology articles relating to diving. I was initially thinking of writing another article on Physiology of breathhold diving, but now think that Physiology of underwater diving is sufficient. Cheers, • • • Peter (Southwood) (talk): 15:52, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

  • Looks good at first glance. Will check it out in more detail later. Well done. Ex nihil (talk) 22:43, 24 August 2017 (UTC)


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  • {{convert|19300|ft|m|disp=flip}} → 5,900 metres (19,300 ft)

It's very handy when one unit is the one we find in the sources, but we want its conversion to display first. Regards --RexxS (talk) 16:59, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

    • Thank you RexxS, very handy. Ex nihil (talk) 23:35, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

Re: Mazâre Šarif[edit]

That is the UniPers transcription. —Ninjoust (talk) 01:29, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

  • Thanks, I made a reference to that at Mazar-i-Sharif. Correct me if it is wrong. Ex nihil (talk) 03:36, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

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