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==Mormon category== |
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Per Wikipedia policy on living-persons biographies, the "Mormon actors" category has been removed unless and until a citation can be provided. -[[User:Porlob|Porlob]] 20:36, 10 October 2006 (UTC) |
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:{{done}} — Fine to leave removed. There are other references but not too favorable [RIP, rest in peace.] "Paul Walker of the Fast and Furious movies admitted to USA Today in 2005 that he was raised Mormon, but stopped adhering to the 'no alcohol, no premarital sex' values years ago. 'I still hold myself accountable,' he told USA Today. 'I'm not the kind of guy who's taking advantage of my position. I could be sleeping with a different 18-year-old girl every day if I wanted to. But that's not my speed.' Walker has a 14-year-old daughter from a past relationship." — [[User:Charles Edwin Shipp|Charles Edwin Shipp]] ([[User talk:Charles Edwin Shipp|talk]]) 16:15, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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== Removed "role" == |
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Someone added to his filmography that he was playing Captain America in the 2009 film. There is absolutely no evidence to support this claim. Captain America has not been chosen, I haven't even heard any rumors of Paul Walker being considered. [[User:Xprivate eyex|Xprivate eyex]] 04:55, 5 September 2007 (UTC) |
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== Revision complete... == |
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The revision to the article is complete. I have added and updated references, incorporated new information, and just moved things around so that it sounds less "fan site" and more "encyclopedia". If anyone has any issues with the revision and/or feel that I've missed something important, you can either add it in yourself or discuss it here or on [[User talk:Ms. Sarita|my talk]] page. If you have a problem with any part of the revision, I would really appreciate feedback so that we can work to improve the article. [[User:Ms. Sarita|Ms. Sarita]] ([[User talk:Ms. Sarita|talk]]) 10:26, 29 September 2008 (UTC) |
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== Engaged == |
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here is the link http://perezhilton.com/2009-02-05-paul-walker-35-engaged-to-teenager#respond |
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:PerezHilton.com is not considered a [[WP:RS|reliable source]]. It's a gossip blog site. If you can find a reliable source stating that he is engaged, we'll put it in. Happy editing! – <font color="#000066">[[User:Ms. Sarita|'''Ms. Sarita''']]</font> <sup><font color="#0000FF">[[User talk:Ms. Sarita|'''''Confer''''']]</font></sup> 21:12, 22 February 2009 (UTC) |
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== His school == |
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the high school it says he attended wasnt opened until he was 21 years old. so isnt that impossible. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/71.66.98.251|71.66.98.251]] ([[User talk:71.66.98.251|talk]]) 12:51, 21 August 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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==Apparent death== |
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Maybe Died? November 30, 2013. Car crash. |
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[[Special:Contributions/75.134.118.244|75.134.118.244]] ([[User talk:75.134.118.244|talk]]) 02:32, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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== Death == |
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It appears like [[TMZ]] has indeed posted an article "Paul Walker Dead at 40 In Fiery Car Crash" which has not yet been retracted (been an hour). |
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http://www.tmz.com/2013/11/30/paul-walker-dead-dies-car-accident-fatal-fire-crash/ |
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Unfortunately there are currently no secondary sources to back that claim up therefore not suitable to show up on Wikipedia at such time. |
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[[User:CyberXRef|<span style="color:#2d7a00;">C</span><span style="color:#2e7f00;">yb</span><span style="color:#25ff00;">er</span><span style="color:#3dbc4c;">XR</span><span style="color:#adff00;">ef</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:CyberXRef|talk]]</sup> 02:36, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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:A follow-up, the [[Daily News (New York)|NY Daily News]] is now also reporting the story, |
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:http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/paul-walker-dies-crash-report-article-1.1533786 |
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:However, they are using TMZ as a source, thus still 1 independent source. |
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:[[User:CyberXRef|<span style="color:#2d7a00;">C</span><span style="color:#2e7f00;">yb</span><span style="color:#25ff00;">er</span><span style="color:#3dbc4c;">XR</span><span style="color:#adff00;">ef</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:CyberXRef|talk]]</sup> 02:48, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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Possible second source http://www.signalscv.com/section/36/article/109902/ |
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[[user:OSUBrit|OSUBrit]] 03:02, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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All that source says is "might have been" and "unconfirmed". --<span style="outline:1px dotted #d1bfa4;"><font color="#ffffff">|</font> [[User:Uncle Milty|<font color="#000051">'''Uncle Milty'''</font>]] | [[User talk:Uncle Milty|<font color="#005c00">talk</font>]] <font color="#ffffff">|</font></span> 03:05, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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:ABC News posted on twitter "@ABC News confirms "Fast and Furious" star Paul Walker has died at the age of 40" |
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:https://twitter.com/ABC/status/406982581293678593 |
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:No news article was posted though |
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:[[User:CyberXRef|<span style="color:#2d7a00;">C</span><span style="color:#2e7f00;">yb</span><span style="color:#25ff00;">er</span><span style="color:#3dbc4c;">XR</span><span style="color:#adff00;">ef</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:CyberXRef|talk]]</sup> 03:18, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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:'''Confirmed''' |
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:https://twitter.com/RealPaulWalker/status/406984510367350784 |
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[[User:OSUBrit|OSUBrit]] ([[User talk:OSUBrit|talk]]) 03:17, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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Died in car crash on November 30th 2016 |
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[[Special:Contributions/198.210.126.178|198.210.126.178]] ([[User talk:198.210.126.178|talk]]) 02:37, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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Paul Walker died at the age of 40 on November 30 2013 after he was involved in a single-car accident and explosion in Southern California. The Porsche GT he was in slammed into a post and then burst into flames. Paul and another person who was in the car were both killed. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/174.93.130.196|174.93.130.196]] ([[User talk:174.93.130.196|talk]]) 02:40, 1 December 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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[[Special:Contributions/108.217.144.45|108.217.144.45]] ([[User talk:108.217.144.45|talk]]) 02:41, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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I forget what the death section said exactly, but I think the last sentence should be changed to how you worded it. The "people" thing just leaves an awkward taste in my mouth. [[Special:Contributions/76.221.158.199|76.221.158.199]] ([[User talk:76.221.158.199|talk]]) 04:06, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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== Death hoax == |
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This isn't being reported by any reputable sources because [http://en.mediamass.net/people/paul-walker/deathhoax.html it is a HOAX.] --<span style="outline:1px dotted #d1bfa4;"><font color="#ffffff">|</font> [[User:Uncle Milty|<font color="#000051">'''Uncle Milty'''</font>]] | [[User talk:Uncle Milty|<font color="#005c00">talk</font>]] <font color="#ffffff">|</font></span> 02:47, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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Not necessary. http://www.signalscv.com/section/36/article/109902/ [[User:AccrualLife|AccrualLife]] ([[User talk:AccrualLife|talk]]) 02:59, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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Apparently there was a hoax floating around yesterday. Sadly he died this afternoon after the original hoax. The site your referencing, is the unreputable one. RIP Paul Walker |
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::Read the Signal site again. No one has confirmed that it was Walker was in the car. --<span style="outline:1px dotted #d1bfa4;"><font color="#ffffff">|</font> [[User:Uncle Milty|<font color="#000051">'''Uncle Milty'''</font>]] | [[User talk:Uncle Milty|<font color="#005c00">talk</font>]] <font color="#ffffff">|</font></span> 03:03, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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I'm not denying that, I was just stating it is likely the hoax is a hoax, notice no reputable source has been able to verify his health and wellness, which by this time and with a hoax this big is telling. |
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:I wasn't deny that either. I was pointing out that it's no more reliable to say it is a hoax. [[User:AccrualLife|AccrualLife]] ([[User talk:AccrualLife|talk]]) 03:22, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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::'Conspiracy' is more interesting (to some) than 'Hoax' by far. — [[User:Charles Edwin Shipp|Charles Edwin Shipp]] ([[User talk:Charles Edwin Shipp|talk]]) 20:34, 2 December 2013 (UTC) |
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== Paul Walker died today. Tragically......RIP == |
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[[Special:Contributions/99.90.151.133|99.90.151.133]] ([[User talk:99.90.151.133|talk]]) 02:53, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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[[Special:Contributions/174.124.250.31|174.124.250.31]] ([[User talk:174.124.250.31|talk]]) 02:55, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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Not cool dude |
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== Paul Walker Died November 30, 2013 == |
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[[User:Robimj23|Robimj23]] ([[User talk:Robimj23|talk]]) 02:58, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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Paul Walker died November,30 2013 in a car crash |
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[[User:Natasharodz|Natasharodz]] ([[User talk:Natasharodz|talk]]) 03:00, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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[[User:Edulimajunior|Edulimajunior]] ([[User talk:Edulimajunior|talk]]) 03:04, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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== Apparent death and edit requests == |
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He is dead |
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I have marked all as resolved, and the request is {{not done}}. Walker has not been confirmed as dead by any [[WP:RS|reliable sources]], and so far as I can tell, all stories currently point back to a TMZ report. This is not good enough per [[WP:BLP]]. Until any such news is confirmed, the article should not be changed. Particularly given there have been hoax reports as recently as yesterday (11/29). [[User:Resolute|Reso]][[User Talk:Resolute|lute]] 03:07, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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Us Weekly has confirmed, as per WPBLP, i think this confirms the news. |
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DIED 11/30/13 |
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Us Weekly cites TMZ. [[Special:Contributions/67.170.7.37|67.170.7.37]] ([[User talk:67.170.7.37|talk]]) 03:13, 1 December 2013 (UTC) Alan |
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'''IT'S LEGIT, [https://twitter.com/ABC/status/406982581293678593 ABC NEWS confirms it].''' It will be soon picked up by major news sites/outlets. RIP. [[Special:Contributions/91.215.78.93|91.215.78.93]] ([[User talk:91.215.78.93|talk]]) 03:14, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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His official twitter has confirmed it: https://twitter.com/RealPaulWalker [[Special:Contributions/24.87.73.167|24.87.73.167]] ([[User talk:24.87.73.167|talk]]) 03:16, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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== Death == |
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Death was Just reported on WPIX TV Ch 11 in NYC on the 10PM News |
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[[Special:Contributions/74.68.60.95|74.68.60.95]] ([[User talk:74.68.60.95|talk]]) 03:09, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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Death was Just reported on SMH. Sounds like it is official?? <http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/celebrity/paul-walker-fast-and-the-furious-star-dies-in-car-crash-20131201-2yj4e.html> |
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Paulwalker passed away in a car accident on November 30, 2013. |
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http://www.tmb.com/2013/11/30/paul-walker-dead-dies-car-accident-fatal-fire-crash/ |
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[[User:Iaravindh|Iaravindh]] ([[User talk:Iaravindh|talk]]) 03:11, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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Paul's Facebook page is confirming the story now. |
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NY Dailey news |
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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/paul-walker-dies-crash-report-article-1.1533786 |
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Same as official Twitter page |
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https://twitter.com/RealPaulWalker |
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"It is with a truly heavy heart that we must confirm that Paul Walker passed away today in a tragic car accident while attending a charity event for his organization Reach Out Worldwide. He was a passenger in a friend's car, in which both lost their lives. We appreciate your patience as we too are stunned and saddened beyond belief by this news. Thank you for keeping his family and friends in your prayers during this very difficult time. We will do our best to keep you apprised on where to send condolences. - #TeamPW" - From Paul's Facebook page. |
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== Facebook Page confirms death == |
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It is with a truly heavy heart that we must confirm that Paul Walker passed away today in a tragic car accident while attending a charity event for his organization Reach Out Worldwide. He was a passenger in a friend's car, in which both lost their lives. We appreciate your patience as we too are stunned and saddened beyond belief by this news. Thank you for keeping his family and friends in your prayers during this very difficult time. We will do our best to keep you apprised on where to send condolences. - #TeamPW (from his Facebook page) [[User:HPPavG6|HPPavG6]] ([[User talk:HPPavG6|talk]]) 03:19, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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:Also his verified Twitter account: https://twitter.com/RealPaulWalker/status/406984510367350784 [[Special:Contributions/201.52.67.4|201.52.67.4]] ([[User talk:201.52.67.4|talk]]) 03:23, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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== Dead == |
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Paul Walker - dead at 40 after crashing his Porshe into a tree. Death(11/30/2013) http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/paul-walker-dies-crash-report-article-1.1533786 |
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[[User:Sheanzyy|Sheanzyy]] ([[User talk:Sheanzyy|talk]]) 03:20, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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Please add information about Paul Walker's death on November 30, 2013 in a car crash in Santa Clarita. Here is one news report about it among many: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/paul-walker-dies-crash-report-article-1.1533786 |
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[[User:Lawprof80|Lawprof80]] ([[User talk:Lawprof80|talk]]) 03:21, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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:I'd question TMZ. As for Facebook make sure it's not a comment someone posted. [[User:NintendoFan|NintendoFan]] <small>([[User talk:NintendoFan|Talk]], [[Special:Contributions/NintendoFan|Contribs]])</small> 03:22, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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::You should probably read the comments before you comment yourself. It's his official facebook page. |
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You guys are really fucking sad. Maybe try to get confirmation before you ruin a guy's life. There is not a single source that actually confirms his death yet. |
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http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/fast-furious-star-paul-walker-killed-crash/story?id=21059278 [[Special:Contributions/216.36.9.149|216.36.9.149]] ([[User talk:216.36.9.149|talk]]) 03:26, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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Someone showed where the report is word-for-word exactly the same as a number of Paul Walker death hoaxes published beginning 13 years ago. I'm researching but can't find anything that confirms absolutely and verifiably one way or the other. His FB page is not necessarily authentic.[[User:Medleystudios72|Medleystudios72]] ([[User talk:Medleystudios72|talk]]) 03:27, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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Reliable sources are stating that he died. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/paul-walker-dies-crash-report-article-1.1533786 [[User:MilesMoney|MilesMoney]] ([[User talk:MilesMoney|talk]]) 03:28, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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Yup "nydailynews" sounds pretty legit. |
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One of his reps has confirmed. |
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He's dead. Sorry. http://variety.com/2013/film/people-news/obituaries-people-news/paul-walker-dead-1200904389/ [[User:MilesMoney|MilesMoney]] ([[User talk:MilesMoney|talk]]) 03:29, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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Under section Death, add <ref>http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/11/30/21695877-fast-and-furious-actor-paul-walker-dies-in-car-crash?lite</ref> |
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[[Special:Contributions/71.192.224.214|71.192.224.214]] ([[User talk:71.192.224.214|talk]]) 03:29, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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:NY Daily News says he was killed in an automobile crash.[http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/paul-walker-dies-crash-report-article-1.1533786] ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 03:30, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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[[User:Chloemotlagh123|Chloemotlagh123]] ([[User talk:Chloemotlagh123|talk]]) 03:33, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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"A spokeswoman for the Los Angeles Sheriff’s Department could not confirm the identities of the two victims nor confirm the cause of the accident. |
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"Authorities said they responded to the crash at about 3:30 p.m. PT in the 28300 block of Rye Canyon Loop and found the car engulfed in flames. The victims were pronounced dead at the scene. The sheriff’s department said the L.A. County Coroner’s Office would determine the victims’ identities and cause of death." |
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At this time the prudent thing to do is hold for 24 to 48 hours until real confirmation is obtained. The above quote is from the 'proof' link given prior. Until the coronor confirms or Paul Walker himself appears somewhere saying it's a hoax, we really are spinning wheels and wasting edits and energy. So again, I recommend applying the brakes for just a little bit and refrain from letting this turn into an edit war. [[User:Medleystudios72|Medleystudios72]] ([[User talk:Medleystudios72|talk]]) 03:36, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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== Paul Walker's death a hoax == |
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Hate to say it, but even Wikipedia has gotten trapped into declaring Paul Walker's death. It has been revealed that he's alive and well and that he's become the victim of a hoax: |
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http://www.mediaite.com/online/cruel-satire-site-reports-that-early-report-of-paul-walkers-death-is-a-hoax/ |
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:You misread that story. Mediate is saying that the story claiming Walker's death on 11/29 was a hoax is itself a hoax. Mediamass is a satirical website, and was evidently trying to make a statement about easily people buy what they read in the media. I'd say they succeeded beyond their wildest expectations in this regard. [[User:Resolute|Reso]][[User Talk:Resolute|lute]] 03:44, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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'''first of all, newcomers, STOP MAKING SECTIONS ABOUT HIS DEATH, let's keep it in one place, shall we? Secondly, he is. Look up every major news outlet. There is an irony here. Yes, there was a hoax yesterday, but it turns out to be true today. RIP '''' [[Special:Contributions/91.215.78.93|91.215.78.93]] ([[User talk:91.215.78.93|talk]]) 03:40, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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[[Special:Contributions/2001:558:6007:98:1958:35:7BA:DD0|2001:558:6007:98:1958:35:7BA:DD0]] ([[User talk:2001:558:6007:98:1958:35:7BA:DD0|talk]]) 03:36, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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His twitter confirms his death |
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https://twitter.com/RealPaulWalker |
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[[User:Imperi|Imperi]] ([[User talk:Imperi|talk]]) 03:37, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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:I recall the complaints about the alleged "unreliability" of TMZ on the day Michael Jackson died. Guess which one was right. Hint: It wasn't the complainants. ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 03:48, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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::Yeah. [http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/tmz-exclusive-sandusky-fail-876412 So reliable] --<span style="outline:1px dotted #d1bfa4;"><font color="#ffffff">|</font> [[User:Uncle Milty|<font color="#000051">'''Uncle Milty'''</font>]] | [[User talk:Uncle Milty|<font color="#005c00">talk</font>]] <font color="#ffffff">|</font></span> 03:51, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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:::How often do they get ''death notices'' wrong? ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 03:58, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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Fact of the matter reamins that TMZ could be accurate, but we can't say with 100% certainty they are. They're a tabloid service first and foremost. Just because a blind squirrel got a nut, it doesn't mean you can fully rely on them. For hours now, other reliable sources have both cited TMZ as their only source and also admitted that authorities have not confirmed the victims' identities. There's just enough to keep the veracity of TMZ's report in question. They could just as easily be mistaken about anything they report. The more recent updates lead me to believe the story more, but it's still not 100% fool proof. His reps updating his FB and Twitter could even be mistaken. We should exercise some responcibility ourselves and just be patient for a little longer. That's my recommendation. [[User:Medleystudios72|Medleystudios72]] ([[User talk:Medleystudios72|talk]]) 03:53, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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:CNN is reporting it,[http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/30/showbiz/actor-paul-walker-dies/index.html] so they're taking it as fact. ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 03:55, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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I see that. CNN is quoting verbatim what I've read in the other articles too. Which is not unheard of. I'm advocating leaving the death date in at this time and not removing it unless everyone ends up with egg on their faces. [[User:Medleystudios72|Medleystudios72]] ([[User talk:Medleystudios72|talk]]) 03:57, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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::It appears to have been confirmed. [https://www.google.com/#q=Paul+Walker+confirmed+dead&safe=off].--[[User:Mark Miller|Mark Miller]] ([[User talk:Mark Miller|talk]]) 04:01, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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:At this point all his official social media outlets would have had to been hacked and his offical spokespersons lying.[[Special:Contributions/50.148.10.74|50.148.10.74]] ([[User talk:50.148.10.74|talk]]) 04:01, 1 December 2013 (UTC)rip paul we will all miss you |
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:So, it turns out that TMZ got it right after all. Not too bad, for an "unreliable" source. ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 20:11, 2 December 2013 (UTC) |
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Some people are just in denial of reality. — [[User:Charles Edwin Shipp|Charles Edwin Shipp]] ([[User talk:Charles Edwin Shipp|talk]]) 20:36, 2 December 2013 (UTC) |
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== Confirmed to meet [[WP:RS]] == |
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The story has now been confirmed by the following sources. |
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* [http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/30/showbiz/actor-paul-walker-dies/ CNN] |
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* [http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/paul-walker-dead-fast-and-the-furious-star-killed-in-car-crash-1.2446804 CBC] |
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* [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-25173331 BBC] |
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* [http://entertainment.time.com/2013/11/30/publicist-fast-furious-actor-paul-walker-dies-in-car-crash/ TIME] |
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* [http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/moviesnow/la-et-mn-fast-furious-star-paul-walker-dies-in-car-crash-20131130,0,4812107.story#axzz2mBxZ1mjW LA Times] |
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* [http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/12/01/us-usa-paulwalker-idUSBRE9B000W20131201 Reuters] |
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* [http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/fast-furious-star-paul-walker-killed-crash-los/story?id=21059278 ABC News] |
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* [http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/news/fast-and-furious-star-paul-walker-dead-at-40-20131130 Rolling Stone] |
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* [http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2516403/Son-8-driver-fiery-crash-killed-Paul-Walker-tried-rescue-father.html UK Daily Mail] |
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* [http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-paul-walker-death-witness-saw-single-speeding-car-before-crash-20131202,0,5693263.story#axzz2mLrElTuf Los Angeles Times] |
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It's time for the community to leave the 'hoax' discussions and collect the most reliable information possible. [[User:Mkdw|<span style="font-size: 13px arial; color: #3366FF;">Mkdw</span>]][[User talk:Mkdw|<sup>''talk''</sup>]] 04:01, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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[[User:Johnspofford|Johnspofford]] ([[User talk:Johnspofford|talk]]) 03:48, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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== Paul Walker confirmed dead == |
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::Latest reports say the sports car hit the light pole and then the tree. — [[User:Charles Edwin Shipp|Charles Edwin Shipp]] ([[User talk:Charles Edwin Shipp|talk]]) 11:04, 7 December 2013 (UTC) |
::Latest reports say the sports car hit the light pole and then the tree. — [[User:Charles Edwin Shipp|Charles Edwin Shipp]] ([[User talk:Charles Edwin Shipp|talk]]) 11:04, 7 December 2013 (UTC) |
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== Friend identified as Roger Rodas == |
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The second person in the car was Roger Rodas. http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/entertainment&id=9344668 |
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Rodas was Walker's financial adviser and a fellow racing enthusiast. http://www.wealthmanagement.ml.com/wm/pages/ArticleViewer.aspx?TITLE=Call-to-Action [[Special:Contributions/76.170.97.25|76.170.97.25]] ([[User talk:76.170.97.25|talk]]) 05:36, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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:{{done}} [[User:Mkdw|<span style="font-size: 13px arial; color: #3366FF;">Mkdw</span>]][[User talk:Mkdw|<sup>''talk''</sup>]] 05:40, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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::I think you jumped the gun on that. The Event organizers are not reliable for such information and the second source just gives info on the person and is not a source to confirm their death. I think that should be removed as a BLP violation at the moment.--[[User:Mark Miller|Mark Miller]] ([[User talk:Mark Miller|talk]]) 05:44, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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:::I don't see how the event organizers are any less reliable than his publicist for "confirming" their deaths since technically no coroners report has come out for both. What they do both have are reliable sources willing to say they feel reasonably sure that their sources are accurate enough for reporting. I wouldn't go so far as to say it's a BLP violation though. [[User:Mkdw|<span style="font-size: 13px arial; color: #3366FF;">Mkdw</span>]][[User talk:Mkdw|<sup>''talk''</sup>]] 05:58, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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::::Well, if you don't see how that looks like simple gossip and that there might be issues with it....alrighty then. I have edited to be clear.--[[User:Mark Miller|Mark Miller]] ([[User talk:Mark Miller|talk]]) 06:03, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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:::::I think the fact that it was confirmed between a news outlet and the organizers directly makes a difference. It doesn't make it fool proof, after all that whole Lara Logan-CNN-Benghazi report is recent in the news, but I think the changes you made were good. [[User:Mkdw|<span style="font-size: 13px arial; color: #3366FF;">Mkdw</span>]][[User talk:Mkdw|<sup>''talk''</sup>]] 06:08, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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::::::I'm sorry, but that is not confirmation until it is released by officials or representatives for the subject. The event organizers are not an official verification in any stretch and I generally find such information to be little more than gossip.--[[User:Mark Miller|Mark Miller]] ([[User talk:Mark Miller|talk]]) 06:17, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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From Yahoo news[http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/wide-screen/paul-walker-fast-furious-star-dead-car-crash-042810466.html]: |
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''"The identity of the second victim, a male, has not been released by authorities; but numerous reports have identified the driver as Roger Rodas, the owner of Walker's auto-racing team, Always Evolving."'' I think we are jumping the gun on this.--[[User:Mark Miller|Mark Miller]] ([[User talk:Mark Miller|talk]]) 06:38, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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:There are multiple reliable sources publishing Roger Rodas: [http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/paul-walker-dies-car-accident-660798 The Hollywood Reporter], [http://www.dailynews.com/arts-and-entertainment/20131130/paul-walker-fast-furious-star-dies-in-fiery-car-crash-in-valencia Los Angeles Daily News], and [http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/entertainment&id=9344668 KABC-TV]. [[User:Dissolve|<span style="color: #000; font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small; font-weight: bold;">dissolve</span>]][[User talk:Dissolve|<span style="color: #000; font-family: Arial; font-size: x-small;"><sup>talk</sup></span>]] 06:50, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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::And none of them have confirmed information.--[[User:Mark Miller|Mark Miller]] ([[User talk:Mark Miller|talk]]) 07:21, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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:::It is probably not something to worry too much about. But I tend to be a little more of a stickler with BLP information. I assume that it wouldn't be printed if it didn't have some basis in fact. Time will tell, but it is more than likely accurate and "more than likely" seems to be enough for Wikipedia.--[[User:Mark Miller|Mark Miller]] ([[User talk:Mark Miller|talk]]) 07:33, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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== Walker lost control of the vehicle or vehicle lost control by itself? == |
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:{{done}} Yeah, I too think that dead is much better than killed. Anyway I changed that. {{smiley}}--'''[[User:Pratyya Ghosh|<span style="color:green;font-family:Comic Sans MS">Pr<font color="red">at</font><font color="blue">yya</font></span>]]''' <sup>[[User_talk:Pratyya Ghosh|<span style="color:orange;font-family:Verdana">'''(Hello!)'''</span>]]</sup> 14:08, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
:{{done}} Yeah, I too think that dead is much better than killed. Anyway I changed that. {{smiley}}--'''[[User:Pratyya Ghosh|<span style="color:green;font-family:Comic Sans MS">Pr<font color="red">at</font><font color="blue">yya</font></span>]]''' <sup>[[User_talk:Pratyya Ghosh|<span style="color:orange;font-family:Verdana">'''(Hello!)'''</span>]]</sup> 14:08, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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== Expiry date? == |
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[[Special:Contributions/69.122.190.4|69.122.190.4]] ([[User talk:69.122.190.4|talk]]) 17:59, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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:Check the [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Paul+Walker log], "expiry date" is December 4, 2013.[[User:Bill william compton|<span style="text-shadow:gray 3px 3px 2px;"><font color="#009900"><sup></sup> — Bill william compton</font></span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Bill william compton|<font color="#000000">Talk</font>]]</sup> 18:12, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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== Personal life == |
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And the controversy around how she was significantly younger than him <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/2601:9:3500:1D9:D431:14E7:319D:5B26|2601:9:3500:1D9:D431:14E7:319D:5B26]] ([[User talk:2601:9:3500:1D9:D431:14E7:319D:5B26|talk]]) 02:48, 5 December 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Driver of the car == |
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If it is known, the driver of the car should be specified (in the "Death" section). Was it Rodas or was it Walker? This should be mentioned in the article. Presently, it does not state who the driver was. (I believe I heard that Rodas was the driver.) If left unstated, it could infer that Walker was the driver or that officials don't know who was driving. This needs clarification. Thanks. [[User:Joseph A. Spadaro|Joseph A. Spadaro]] ([[User talk:Joseph A. Spadaro|talk]]) 20:04, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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: I added this statement – and its source – into the article: ''Rodas was believed to be driving the car.[http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/entertainment&id=9344668]''. Thanks. [[User:Joseph A. Spadaro|Joseph A. Spadaro]] ([[User talk:Joseph A. Spadaro|talk]]) 23:26, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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== Lede == |
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A reader comment asked if the lede (they say "introduction") could be expanded. Thoughts?--[[User:Mark Miller|Mark Miller]] ([[User talk:Mark Miller|talk]]) 23:50, 1 December 2013 (UTC) |
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: It's OK. But, it probably should include a brief sentence about his death, I believe. Thanks. [[User:Joseph A. Spadaro|Joseph A. Spadaro]] ([[User talk:Joseph A. Spadaro|talk]]) 00:22, 2 December 2013 (UTC) |
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::Very good point.--[[User:Mark Miller|Mark Miller]] ([[User talk:Mark Miller|talk]]) 00:29, 2 December 2013 (UTC) |
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== Recent death template == |
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Let's go ahead and leave the recent death template for now. According to this, the circumstances surrounding the crash are still under investigation: http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-paul-walker-death-fiery-crash-investigation-20131201,0,7509895.story |
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The text of the template reads: "Some information, such as the circumstances of the person's death *and surrounding events*, may change as more facts become known." (Emphasis added.) It's fairly certain that the crash was the cause of the death, but the cause of the crash and other surrounding events are not yet completely clear. -[[User:Helvetica|Helvetica]] ([[User talk:Helvetica|talk]]) 02:06, 2 December 2013 (UTC) |
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== Missing Music Video == |
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As far as I know, Paul Walker's wiki page is missing at least one music video. |
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That would be 2001 Ja Rule - Furious. |
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R.I.P Paul Walker. [[User:Brian3284275|Brian3284275]] ([[User talk:Brian3284275|talk]]) 07:07, 2 December 2013 (UTC) |
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[[Special:Contributions/92.23.62.36|92.23.62.36]] ([[User talk:92.23.62.36|talk]]) 19:00, 2 December 2013 (UTC) |
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:The pictures from UK Daily Mail showed a lamp post hole in the ground (as if knocked over) and the demolished sports car pile by two trees. Is it important? — [[User:Charles Edwin Shipp|Charles Edwin Shipp]] ([[User talk:Charles Edwin Shipp|talk]]) 20:41, 2 December 2013 (UTC) |
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[[Special:Contributions/66.227.121.70|66.227.121.70]] ([[User talk:66.227.121.70|talk]]) 22:09, 2 December 2013 (UTC) |
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Paul was on a national geographic channel show called Shark Men - Size Matters. |
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:This story is still evolving. There are reports that he and his driver might have been drag-racing. If so, that would put a somewhat different twist on it (aside from the common ground, that he's dead either way.) ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 22:51, 2 December 2013 (UTC) |
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[[Special:Contributions/99.195.161.28|99.195.161.28]] ([[User talk:99.195.161.28|talk]]) 00:00, 3 December 2013 (UTC) |
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:You don't need a drag strip to do drag racing. However, there seems to be no current evidence for this being a drag race. I have removed that from the infobox, as it's currently misleading. ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 00:15, 3 December 2013 (UTC) |
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== Granfather Irish Billy Walker? == |
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The article has long identified his grandfather as boxer Irish Billy Walker. Now {{User|JoyRiderProdz}} has linked to the article [[Billy Walker (boxer)]]. First of all, the source does not name the grandfather. Secondly, [[Billy Walker (boxer)]] names his children but does not identify Walker's father (Paul William Walker III) as the son of the boxer. The grandfather's name should be removed entirely. [[Special:Contributions/24.163.36.99|24.163.36.99]] ([[User talk:24.163.36.99|talk]]) 00:05, 3 December 2013 (UTC) |
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PS: As is often the case, the reader did not read. The Article has the following: "He and Rebecca McBrain,[22] a one-time girlfriend,[23] had a daughter[24] who lived with her mother in Hawaii for 13 years and then moved to California to live with Walker in 2011." {{done}} — [[User:Charles Edwin Shipp|Charles Edwin Shipp]] ([[User talk:Charles Edwin Shipp|talk]]) 16:45, 5 December 2013 (UTC) |
PS: As is often the case, the reader did not read. The Article has the following: "He and Rebecca McBrain,[22] a one-time girlfriend,[23] had a daughter[24] who lived with her mother in Hawaii for 13 years and then moved to California to live with Walker in 2011." {{done}} — [[User:Charles Edwin Shipp|Charles Edwin Shipp]] ([[User talk:Charles Edwin Shipp|talk]]) 16:45, 5 December 2013 (UTC) |
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Paul Walker confirmed dead
Sadly, this does not appear to be a hoax at all.
- http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Two-People-Die-in-Fiery-Valencia-Crash-233951801.html--Mark Miller (talk) 04:13, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
- http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/local/los_angeles&id=9344668
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On November 30, 2013, at roughly 3:30 PM (PST), Walker and a companion were driving in Valencia, Santa Clarita, California, when the red Porsche sports car they were in swung out of control and crashed into a light pole and tree.[29] The car immediately exploded and burst into flames.[30][31][32] The Los Angeles County Sheriff’s department declared two deceased at the scene"
to : " On November 30, 2013, at roughly 3:30 PM (PST), Walker was the passenger in his Porsche GT when the car lost control and crashed into a tree on Rye Canyon Loop in Valencia, Ca (Lat/Lon: 34.453321, -118.578935, 25601 Hercules St., Valencia, CA 91355-5051). Upon impact the vehicle immediately burst into flames, killing both the driver and Walker. Both were pronounced dead at the scene. Walker was attending a charity event for his organization Reach Out Worldwide when Walker had been taking friends out for test drives in the Porsche GT. The accident occurred on one such ride."
This gives a much more detailed and accurate account of the event.
Kit600ana (talk) 04:22, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
- "Peace Officers of California" is claiming this was a friends car. I cannot confirm this however. Does anyone have the information in a reliable source?--Mark Miller (talk) 04:45, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
- Entertainment Weekly is reporting this as a friends car. [1].--Mark Miller (talk) 04:48, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
From FoxNews:
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2013/12/01/fast-and-furious-actor-paul-walker-dies-in-car-crash/
Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 04:50, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
- That does not clarify the ownership issue.--Mark Miller (talk) 04:54, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
- Confirmed through the statement released by his representatives. This was a friends car.--Mark Miller (talk) 04:57, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
- CNN as well is reporting this as a friends vehicle.--Mark Miller (talk) 05:05, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
- Confirmed through the statement released by his representatives. This was a friends car.--Mark Miller (talk) 04:57, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
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Please change "light pole" to "lamp post" Antichrist84 (talk) 05:01, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
- Technically they're called street lights but the news source says light pole. Mkdwtalk 05:15, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
Not done as stated above, both sources are using the term "light pole". Which is accurate as the car didn't hit the "Street lamp" or "light" itself, but the pole that supports it.--Mark Miller (talk) 05:17, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
- Approximate coordinates: (34°27′11.8398″N 118°34′44.706″W / 34.453288833°N 118.57908500°W)
- Latest reports say the sports car hit the light pole and then the tree. — Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 11:04, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
Walker lost control of the vehicle or vehicle lost control by itself?
The article reads: the vehicle lost control... Did it really? Or did the driver lose control of the vehicle? And who was driving? Why blame the vehicle? It's either Walker's or the accountant's fault. 186.15.152.217 (talk) 05:50, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
- The reports were saying he was a passenger. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 06:40, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
- I assume it's vague because, from what I've read so far, the identity of the driver and the cause of the crash haven't been released yet. Because of that, it's a possibility that the vehicle malfunctioned. We can't accurately say either at this point. TCMemoire (talk) 06:53, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
- It could be a combination. That particular car is reportedly very difficult to handle at high speed. So unless it accelerated by itself, Walker's friend (the driver) put them in jeopardy by pushing the speed up to the 80-90 mph range (current estimate) on a city street. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 14:43, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
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Please change "was killed" to "died" Kroeckx (talk) 13:18, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
Done Yeah, I too think that dead is much better than killed. Anyway I changed that.
--Pratyya (Hello!) 14:08, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
Personal life
There is nothing about his current long-time girl-friend under his personal life and they, according to internent reports, have been dating for seven years. Would be nice to have some stuff added in about her as she is his girlfriend of seven years. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.227.202.121 (talk) 18:10, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
And the controversy around how she was significantly younger than him — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:9:3500:1D9:D431:14E7:319D:5B26 (talk) 02:48, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
Reader feedback: The coroner has yet to Ident...
142.162.227.120 posted this comment on 2 December 2013 (view all feedback).
The coroner has yet to Identify the body of Paul as being one in the car. As such, he should not be announced dead on here until he can be identified. News sources cite the Coroner, stating that the bodies in the car were so badly burned that they had to ask for dental records to ID them, and that the process would take days. http://www.tmz.com/2013/12/01/paul-walker-body-unidentifiable-autopsy/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_S0QnjNSU0
Any thoughts? Ridiculous! There are photos and video of Paul getting into the car that crashed minutes later around 3:30 p.m. PDT.. His family, publicist, and official twitter account confirmed by 6 p.m. PDT, that Paul was the passenger and pronounced dead at the scene.
Catsue (talk) 03:55, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
- Yes. There's no question who was in the car, and that they're both dead. The coroner just needs to provide a positive ID for each one, as the car was an inferno. And it would be kind of embarrassing to flip-flop and bury the guys under the wrong stones. Hence the ID. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 06:36, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
- How does one comment directly to a "feedback" comment? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 14:59, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
- (1) Go to the top of TALK; You will see "Talk:Paul Walker From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia View reader feedback"; (2) Click; (3) Scroll down; (4) Find the comment of your interest, and click on it; (5) on the right, click review comment. — Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 16:45, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
- (A) Click on view all comments; (B) Those that have already been reviewed need not be reviewed again (by WP editors); (C) Select an important one of your choosing and choose if it is unimportant, requires no action, important, etc, and you can then add a comment. I like to encourage readers to become editors. It is thought that talk should mainly occur via the auxiliary TALK page. — Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 16:58, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
- What I'm looking for is a straightforward way to notify the poster that he's misunderstanding what the coroner's office is doing. Thanks for the info, I'll take a look later. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 18:54, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
- OK, I tried to follow it. It doesn't make sense. I can't click on a given comment. Maybe that requires a particular privilege? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 23:18, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
- What I'm looking for is a straightforward way to notify the poster that he's misunderstanding what the coroner's office is doing. Thanks for the info, I'll take a look later. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 18:54, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
- (A) Click on view all comments; (B) Those that have already been reviewed need not be reviewed again (by WP editors); (C) Select an important one of your choosing and choose if it is unimportant, requires no action, important, etc, and you can then add a comment. I like to encourage readers to become editors. It is thought that talk should mainly occur via the auxiliary TALK page. — Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 16:58, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
- (1) Go to the top of TALK; You will see "Talk:Paul Walker From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia View reader feedback"; (2) Click; (3) Scroll down; (4) Find the comment of your interest, and click on it; (5) on the right, click review comment. — Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 16:45, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
I'm going to try 'reviewing' again and re-answer your question—it may be of interest to others. This is also new usage to me. As I recall how I did this successfully a few days ago, I go to the reader section (feedback from non-editors) and browse down the new comments. When I want to add a review, I click on the right and optionally add a comment. Little is known if the reader will ever see the comment/review, IMHO. — Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 16:01, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
- Here is new correspondence (My review in the reader section)
- 59.180.156.204 ED: Not useful.
- My comment: “What were you looking for?”
- Review categories are: {Useful, Resolved, No-action-needed, Inappropriate}
- 122.58.129.97 did not find what they were looking for.2 hours ago
- who is paul walkers girl friend? I marked as ‘useful’.
Of 139 posts 66% found what they were looking for. — Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 16:22, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
- Find the 'reader review' section-link at the top of the TALK page.
PS: As is often the case, the reader did not read. The Article has the following: "He and Rebecca McBrain,[22] a one-time girlfriend,[23] had a daughter[24] who lived with her mother in Hawaii for 13 years and then moved to California to live with Walker in 2011." Done — Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 16:45, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
"4"
Done
Since his father is frequently listed in TV interviews as "Paul Walker III", Paul Walker IV should redirect here. -- 70.50.148.105 (talk) 10:57, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
Death Section Content
Is this paragraph appropriately located:
Rodas and Walker became friends after meeting at a race track. Rodas became Walker's financial adviser in 2007 and helped to establish Reach Out Worldwide.[41] Rodas was the CEO of Always Evolving, a Valencia high-end vehicle performance shop owned by Walker.
While they were friends, they were friends long before the accident. Their friendship is tangent to the accident, I think it would be more appropriate in a different section. =//= Johnny Squeaky 18:20, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
- I reorganized the sentences in the paragraph to separate the events of the accident from Rodas' relationship with Walker. I now see these sentences were moved to the the Personal life section, right above the Death section, which is fine. Anyone who wants to know who Rodas is doesn't have far to look to find out. GoingBatty (talk) 19:20, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
Vehicle did not immediately burst into flames
It should be noted that smoke started to rise from the car one minute after it hit the tree. Then it took another minute until it started to burn. (can bee seen in the surveillance video). Ich901 (talk) 20:18, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/12/04/us/walker-death-questions/index.html
- It took about a minute for smoke and fire to rise from the car. Where there is that much smoke, there is fire. But exactly what is your point? Is this related to 9/11 is some way? =//= Johnny Squeaky 22:44, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
- In theory, if someone were right there, somehow, they might have been able to pull him from the car and revive. The coroner's report said he died from smoke and flame inhalation. That's the only real significance of it, except for some possible conspiracy theory as you say. The question I'd like to see answered is why they were doing 100 MPH on a city street. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 17:01, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
- No, the coroner's report did not say he died from smoke and flame inhalation. It said he died from a combination of trauma and smoke/fire. =//= Johnny Squeaky 21:14, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
- Fine, but the point is that he was theoretically alive for a short time after the crash. If he was dead, he wouldn't have inhaled smoke. In contrast with the driver, who was considered to have died on impact, as he didn't inhale any smoke. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 21:25, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
- No, the coroner's report did not say he died from smoke and flame inhalation. It said he died from a combination of trauma and smoke/fire. =//= Johnny Squeaky 21:14, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
- In theory, if someone were right there, somehow, they might have been able to pull him from the car and revive. The coroner's report said he died from smoke and flame inhalation. That's the only real significance of it, except for some possible conspiracy theory as you say. The question I'd like to see answered is why they were doing 100 MPH on a city street. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 17:01, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
Video from his memorial service
http://video.foxnews.com/v/2888458100001/remembering-paul-walker-vin-diesel-speaks-at-memorial/?intcmp=obnetwork — Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 14:33, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
- For now, I've put the short video clip in 'External references' — Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 14:44, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
— — — Let's evaluate later (for better video tributes.)
- For now, I've put the short video clip in 'External references' — Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 14:44, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
Role Of Porsche Carrera GT In Walker's Death
There is a clear misunderstanding being promulgated in the press about the car Walker was in. Reporting on Wikipedia and other car sources show that the Porsche is one of the fastest-braking cars in the world with better traction than almost any car available at any price. Thus a fatal crash in this car at 45 mph - or really any normal speed limit - is virtually impossible UNLESS the idiots driving it are trying to do something like "drift" a 600 hp racing car. This is something both of these men knew better than to do.
This car isn't "tricky" to drive at normal speeds. Hell, you don't even have to shift it past second gear to go the legal limit.
At any rate, I think Wikipedia is the place to balance the coverage of this truly SENSELESS tragedy Dlawbailey (talk) 05:27, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
- 80-90 mph on a city street is not a "normal" speed. Whether the Porsche can handle that or not is another question. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 06:34, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
- In my opinion, the Porsche could easily handle that speed but not the light post and then the tree. We won't know what happened. Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 11:07, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
Reader feedback: Add a brief story, Paul Walker, Young/Restless TV star
To WP editors: You can click on 'Reader Feedback' at either the Article-page or the TALK-page. Here is the one featured comment: 65.94.29.113 posted this comment on 7 December 2013 (view all feedback).
"I would like to know, a brief story that Paul Walker (Brandon Collins) played on Y.and R? I can't remember his role on that show.
Any thoughts? Y&R stands for TV 'Young and Restless' and a Google-search yields:
http://boards.soapcentral.com/showthread.php?920574-Sad-news-Paul-Walker-(ex-Brandon-Collins)-dead-at-40-in-tragic-crash
Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 16:29, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
- Consider the following fan paragraph found in SoapCentral: "I'll try to write a synopsis of how his role went on Y&R as a little tribute:
"Victor did not approve of his teen age daughter Victoria (Heather Tom) dating an older man, Ryan McNeil (Scott Reeves) so he tried to set her up with a business client's teen aged son she went to school with named Brandon (Paul Walker). She protested saying that he was a geek in school. Low and behold, one night she came home to find her father Victor had a surprise waiting for her: the boy named Brandon he was trying to set her up with. Of course, it was obvious from Brandon's excited look that he had a crush on her so all Vickie could do was to keep from being rude. It was to her horror though to find out that her father Victor had already set up for her and Brandon to go, not just on a date but to prom together. Then Victoria makes plans of her own just to get out from under her father's scoping eye on prom night. She agrees to go with Brandon but has secret plans to see Ryan McNeil instead.
"Later, Vickie makes further secret plans to elope with Ryan somehow getting past the under-age factor and uses Brandon as a decoy in her plan. He thinks she's going out of town to be with him but she only used him to get Victor to approve the trip since he trusted the clean cut kid. Only when they get to the hotel room out of town, Brandon is shocked to find Ryan there and that she plans to marry the guy. Brandon does his best to talk her out of it to no avail ... but Vickie begs the kid not to tell her father. Somehow Victor found out (I can't recall of it was from Brandon or not) and all hell broke loose with Victor having Ryan arrested for marrying his underage daughter.
"I want to say all of that took about the whole Summer to play out and I think after that was the end of Paul Walker as Brandon on the show
"R.I.P. Paul Walker" (From a fan at Boards.SoapCentral.com) — Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 16:48, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
car speed
Were they driving with 90 or 100 mph?
There are several sources that claim that the police said, they were drving with 100 mph and not 90mph. Ich901 (talk) 19:34, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/celebrity/2013-12/03/content_17147683.htm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2516403/Paul-Walker-STREET-RACE-died-fireball-crash.html
- Does the car have a data computer that records this info, and if so was it recovered? Otherwise, I'd say 90 or 100 is an estimate, either of which could be right or wrong. =//= Johnny Squeaky 20:38, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
Feedback section hidden
Please stop hiding the Feedback feature. Checkingfax (talk) 03:32, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
- Why? I am not aware of any rule or guideline that states it must be maintained. WWGB (talk) 03:36, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
- Because someone asked you? Apparently there are those that want it. =//= Johnny Squeaky 03:54, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
paul, i love cars but you are a driver of fast cars i am 8 years old, grade two student my name is Marl Ysaac C. Atienza — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.2.43.208 (talk) 01:54, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
Reader feedback: need HQ picture of him
Georgethewriter posted this comment on 7 December 2013 (view all feedback).
need HQ picture of him
Any thoughts?
Faizannehal (talk) 09:44, 10 December 2013 (UTC) hey, we cannot put any picture we want we can only put those pics which are licensed and those kind of pics are in very few number on internet.
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