Talk:Liverpool

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Population Edit

Can Walton be added to the map please. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.153.6.104 (talk) 16:56, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

I have replaced "and is part of a larger urban area of 816,216."

with

"and is at the centre of a wider urban area, the Liverpool City Region, which has a population of around 2 million people" with the source being a document published by the Government. City regions are now the central focus of government policy concerning the core urban areas. The urban area figure of 816,216 isn't a figure that is in common use either in government or the media.

Lenatron (talk) 18:04, 9 September 2012 (UTC)Lenatron

Not sure I agree with that change. The wider urban area is not the same as the Liverpool City Region. The liverpool city region refers to areas that are not directly connected to Liverpool. Ideally stuff like this should go in relevant economy / governance sections otherwise we end up conflating what is and isn't "Liverpool". Koncorde (talk) 08:08, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

It is important to note that like all large metropolises, it only talks about the number of people who reside in the city. The number of people who work in Liverpool is a lot greater because people from other parts of Merseyside like the Wirral, and beyond, communute into Liverpool each day, or stay in the Travelodge, and work there. So around 2 to 5 million people work in Liverpool. Chester and Warrington are not considered neither by the locals of those towns or Liverpudlians themselves as being part of a Liverpool region. Wigan, is definitely not part of the Liverpool region.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.132.189.232 (talk • contribs) 08:57, 10 July 2013‎

I've never seen any evidence for a figure like "2 to 5 million", or anything approaching that number. We put in the article what reliable sources say, and only that. Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:26, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Indeed – nothing close to "2 to 5 million" people work in Liverpool. The entire population of Merseyside, Cheshire and Lancashire only runs to about 4 million... Dricherby (talk) 00:46, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

The government-comissioned 'Rebalancing Britain: Policy Or Slogan?' document by Lord Heseltine and Sir Terry Leahy actually suggests that Liverpool draws upon a labour market of 'around 3 million people,' so 'two to five million' isn't completely misleading. sukaprosze (talk) 15:34, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

I think "draws on a labour market of" means "these are all the people who live close enough to Liverpool that they might consider working there if the right job turned up". As I said, the population of Merseyside and the surrounding counties is only four million. It cannot possibly be that three million of those work in Liverpool, since that would be 75% of the people, even before you consider children, retired people and the unemployed. Dricherby (talk) 09:56, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

The population of Liverpool is difficult to ascertain because there is no single political entity which approximates to the boundaries of the city. The central business district and southern suburbs lie within the "Metropolitan Borough of the City of Liverpool" (population 466,415), but the northern, eastern and western suburbs lie within the "Metropolitan Boroughs of Sefton, Knowsley and Wirral" respectively. The Liverpool conurbation is entirely contained within the "Metropolitan County of Merseyside" (population 1.38 million), but this also contains the towns of Southport (pop. 90,336) and St Helens (pop. 102,629) which might reasonably be considered separate settlements. To complicate matters further, the built-up area merges almost imperceptibly with further settlements to the east (e.g. Widnes, Runcorn, Warrington, Ellesmere Port etc.) to create a wider metropolitan region with a population of 2.24 million (source ESPON 1.4.3.). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.176.105.144 (talk) 14:31, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

The population of Liverpool is easy to ascertain. It is those who live inside the city boundaries. In some other web sites they pull in all sorts of surrounding boroughs. One states Leeds is over 700,000, which is laughable.78.105.238.158 (talk) 00:13, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 12 January 2013

Hello Editors for Liverpool page,

My Zns Smith and I would like to request to edit info on Liverpool’d page? This additional text provides important overlooked historical facts regarding about Liverpool. Thank you.

Zns Smith (talk) 19:33, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

You can edit semiprotected pages when your account becomes autoconfirmed. This will usualy happen when your account is at least 4 days old with at least 10 edits. It looks like you have met the edit count number, and in another day or two your account will be old enough. RudolfRed (talk) 20:08, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

The user concerned has attempted to copy-paste copyright material elsewhere, and should not attempt to repeat the exercise here or anywhere else. Ghmyrtle (talk) 21:55, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Sport

"Famous professional footballers from Liverpool include Peter Reid, Gary Ablett, Wayne Rooney, Steven Gerrard, Jamie Carragher and Tony Hibbert."

Not to get into a whole debate over who/what is a scouser but this article is about Liverpool. Reid, Gerrard and Hibbert are from Huyton. Carragher is from Bootle. Xenomorph1984 (talk) 17:57, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Grand National Section

Can the reference to John Smiths grand national be changed, as John Smith is no longer the title sponsor of the event — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.157.136.26 (talk) 19:02, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 27 August 2013

In the Football section under Sport, the semicolon in "including; Dixie Dean" should be a colon 108.18.250.6 (talk) 20:27, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

No punctuation mark is necessary after "including". I have removed the semicolon and placed a comma before it. Rivertorch (talk) 21:13, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

HS2

High-speed trains are scheduled to enter the city when the network is built. 188.223.224.168 (talk) 18:46, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Liverpolitan

Should this article mention the word "Liverpolitan", as "a supposedly status-enhancing adaptation of Liverpudlian"? I've certainly seen the word used, but whether it should be mentioned here is another matter. Thoughts? Ghmyrtle (talk) 11:45, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

It's relevant. Aside from the Times using it in a snide way in 2002, there are a fair number of references from the 30's through to the 2000's of its use. Koncorde (talk) 21:18, 29 November 2013 (UTC)