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::And you're an administrator? And you don't understand [[WP:BEFORE]]? Shameful. Are you willing to stand for recall?— [[User:Alf.laylah.wa.laylah|alf laylah wa laylah]] ([[User_talk:Alf.laylah.wa.laylah|talk]]) 03:03, 17 February 2014 (UTC) |
::And you're an administrator? And you don't understand [[WP:BEFORE]]? Shameful. Are you willing to stand for recall?— [[User:Alf.laylah.wa.laylah|alf laylah wa laylah]] ([[User_talk:Alf.laylah.wa.laylah|talk]]) 03:03, 17 February 2014 (UTC) |
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== Wrongful deletion of BeerXML rejected == |
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If you have come here to find out why your article has been deleted then take heart from [[BeerXML]] |
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Despite a concerted campaign of tagging [[User_talk:PrivateWiddle]], outrageous accusations of sexism [[Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/PrivateWiddle#Views]] a failed AFD [[Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/BeerXML]], attempts to use admin status to silence oppostion and wilful misreading of the guidelines; this user has failed to get away with deleting an article just because they really want to. |
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Don't allow yourself to be bullied and be aware that this user has a henchperson that they call in, particularly if you are on your own. Expect heavy templating of your user page, accusations of offensiveness if you disagree with them and an RFC on a trumped up charge if they feel they are losing. |
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Stick to WP policy, get other users involved and don't be intimidated. I remain [[User:PrivateWiddle|Devils In Skirts!]] ([[User talk:PrivateWiddle|talk]]) 00:40, 22 February 2014 (UTC) |
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===Your rfc accusation of sexism against me=== |
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Revision as of 00:40, 22 February 2014
If that doesn't help, read these FAQs.
1. Why did you delete my page when I hadn't finished writing it?
- Answer: Don't create new articles unless you are sure they meet wikipedia's criteria, particularly notability and verifiability. If you want to practice, there is the sandbox facility and Wikipedia:Articles for creation where you can get a second opinion from a more experienced contributor. And if you really can't help yourself, use {{underconstruction}} so other people will know you are still working on it.
2. Why did you delete my page for advertising? I wasn't trying to advertise!
- Answer: Read Wikipedia:NPOV for guidance on how to word an article so that it doesn't sound like an advertisement.
3. Why did you delete my page for advertising? It was about a non-profit organisation!
- Answer: Non-profit organisations advertise all the time - it's still promotion and the rule applies to them just as it does to commercial bodies. See no 2 above.
4. Why did you delete my article without warning?
- Answer: Because you are not entitled to a warning if you don't follow the guidelines. See no 1 above.
5. Why didn't you do a google search and find references for my article and put them in for me instead of just deleting it?
- Answer: Because I don't have time to do the boring bits for you. I have enough boring bits of my own to work on, thank you.
And please SIGN YOUR POSTS, otherwise I don't know who is asking me the question!
Cautionary reading
I would like all my readers, both regular and irregular, to note the content of these two sub-sections. This is the calibre of comment you can expect to find on your talk page if you become an administrator and try to fulfil your duties conscientiously. Miraculously, none of those who have contributed to this section are administrators themselves, even though they clearly have superior skills that would make them far better at the job than any existing admin. Between them, they have amassed the impressive total of 18,460 article edits – in one case, a staggering 334! Sadly, their efforts have remained unappreciated by the community as a whole and they have been victimised by having some of their accomplished work deleted for mere failure to comply with the inclusion criteria. The world is a cruel place.
BeerXML deletion
I've already been through this with another deleter. BeerXML is not a product it is a data interchange format, and is a subset of XML. If you don't know what that means then you should not delete it. You are quite simply factually wrong. I will put the page back up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PrivateWiddle (talk • contribs) 16:16, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
- I have to agree with PrivateWiddle, you apparently don't have a good grasp on technology and probably shouldn't be commenting on those articles. It also appears that you have a personal issue with PrivateWiddle. Perhaps you should refrain from commenting on his articles as well. Ucanlookitup (talk) 02:45, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
- And you're an administrator? And you don't understand WP:BEFORE? Shameful. Are you willing to stand for recall?— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 03:03, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
Wrongful deletion of BeerXML rejected
If you have come here to find out why your article has been deleted then take heart from BeerXML
Despite a concerted campaign of tagging User_talk:PrivateWiddle, outrageous accusations of sexism Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/PrivateWiddle#Views a failed AFD Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/BeerXML, attempts to use admin status to silence oppostion and wilful misreading of the guidelines; this user has failed to get away with deleting an article just because they really want to.
Don't allow yourself to be bullied and be aware that this user has a henchperson that they call in, particularly if you are on your own. Expect heavy templating of your user page, accusations of offensiveness if you disagree with them and an RFC on a trumped up charge if they feel they are losing.
Stick to WP policy, get other users involved and don't be intimidated. I remain Devils In Skirts! (talk) 00:40, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
Your rfc accusation of sexism against me
I take the accusation of sexism from you extremely seriously. You have defamed me publicly and I am considering my options on how to respond to this appalling, baseless, slur. I would like to give you the opportunity to retract this accusation and apologise. If not then we will find ourselves taking the matter forward for resolution.
It would have been useful had you looked up the reference at Carry On Up The Khyber before launching a complaint against me for sexism. Specifically, even five seconds reading Carry_On..._Up_the_Khyber#The_regiment
Libelling me as a sexist is a rather extreme response to not getting your way in the debate at BeerXML AfD and if you had read the Wikipedia page on the film, you might have spared yourself the indignity of being hauled over the coals by those who responded to your rfc against me.
The idea that my username or signature is somehow directed against you personally is risible and speaks volumes. Be assured that I will not be changing anything.
As far as the BeerXML debacle is concerned, I think your time might be well spent responding to all the keeps on its AfD page (there's also one on the talk page). At the moment yourself and the seconder of your complaint against me are the only people who have a problem with the article, even though you are not very clear on what the problem is.
If I could offer you one piece of advice, it would be to address the points made by those users by making reasonable points in return that convince them that you are correct. This, I have found, seems to work better than hectoring, personal abuse, templating and launching rfcs against everyone who does not agree with you.
I note that you have managed to get admin status and use the authority that comes with it as a weapon against people who disagree with you. To save you a lot of typing, I'm really not in the slightest intimidated by that. Don't forget that authority comes with responsibility. If you continue to misuse your position as admin to persue personal vendettas against people who challenge your decisions, you may find that it is removed from you.
Devils In Skirts! (talk) 14:15, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
- Your allegation of calculated method of insulting female wikipedians is indeed extremely serious. Also I don't think I (or any other random editor) have any chance of guessing your gender if I haven't noticed the RFC. Solomon7968 08:23, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
- P.S. You first threatened PrivateWiddle about opening a RFC about his signature at 10:23, 15 February 2014 without bothering to ask him what the intended meaning of the signature is. Perhaps he would have changed it if asked politely? Assumption of bad faith from the very first indeed constitutes a personal attack and you should apologise unless there is good reason to believe PrivateWiddle is indeed sexist. Unfounded accusations of sexism is no better than real sexism. Solomon7968 08:37, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
Issues with CMDportal Page
- Advertisement, citations and general notability of CMDportal page
Hi Deb, thanks for your comments on the CMDportal page that I created. Sorry for using your talk page about your comments on a wikipedia page. I had a look at the links you mentioned above for further information on neutrality and POV and unfortunately, I still don't understand what the problem with this page is. As far as I can see, there is no advertisement and everything is properly sourced, without a single source from the company's website, thus avoiding conflict of interest or advertisement and clearly showing relevance of its activities. If you could perhaps pinpoint some of the issues, that would be very much appreciated. Thanks for your time. Best regards, Manuel0506 (talk) 15:27, 27 January 2014 (GMT)
- Did you think Manuel0506s answer was Insufficient? Am I wrong in believing he answered in an hour? Fischblubl (talk) 11:50, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
- Yes. And no. Deb (talk) 12:10, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
- Would you care to elaborate how it was insufficient? Fischblubl (talk) 12:41, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
- I don't see any reason to discuss this with a new contributor. The appropriate place for you to ask these questions will be at the deletion review, if and when he submits it. Deb (talk) 12:46, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
- Sorry but am I understanding Correctly that my Experience concerning Wikipedia is a Guideline for you to not Discuss this? I think that Manuel0506s Arguments were fully sufficient. I would like you to explain why you don't. Do I need to be a long-established contributor to do that? Fischblubl (talk) 12:58, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
- You're on the verge of badgering conduct that is discouraged here. Please desist. Deb (talk) 13:00, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
- I am very sorry if this hurt your feelings in any way, and my contribution was not Intended to do so. However I see "I don't see any reason to discuss this with a new contributor." may, even if as I am sure not to be intended "discourage them from editing entirely"[1]. But I apologize again if you have found any of my posts badgering you in any kind of way and I hope that you forgive me if that was the case. Fischblubl (talk) 13:14, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
- I would also like to give you some recommended Reading(look at "what Harassment is not") concerning the definition of harassment according to the page linked above. I realize that it may not be the same to your definition of harassment, but you may find it interesting. Fischblubl (talk) 13:33, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
- Please Answer
- You're on the verge of badgering conduct that is discouraged here. Please desist. Deb (talk) 13:00, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
- Sorry but am I understanding Correctly that my Experience concerning Wikipedia is a Guideline for you to not Discuss this? I think that Manuel0506s Arguments were fully sufficient. I would like you to explain why you don't. Do I need to be a long-established contributor to do that? Fischblubl (talk) 12:58, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
- I don't see any reason to discuss this with a new contributor. The appropriate place for you to ask these questions will be at the deletion review, if and when he submits it. Deb (talk) 12:46, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
- Would you care to elaborate how it was insufficient? Fischblubl (talk) 12:41, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
- Yes. And no. Deb (talk) 12:10, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
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A barnstar for you!
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Nice Work...
Muhammad Aftab 14:14, 27 January 2014 (UTC) |
You PRODded this, and it was deleted. Undeletion has been rather rudely requested at WP:REFUND, so per WP:DEL#Proposed deletion I have restored it, and now notify you in case you wish to consider AfD. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 10:14, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
Deb is reviewing pages with head closed
I see you deleted a page for a bakery that i made which i don't own/am affiliated with. It would be better if you cross verify before acting. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rico25new (talk • contribs) 12:50, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
- @Rico25new, maybe you want to read the linked page and the FAQ at the top of this talk page before making vague and offensive accusations. ~ | twsx | talkcont | ~ 12:53, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
You are a dumbass ;/ Even the stupidest of person would care enough to learn before acting. I will bring that page back when I figure out howto — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rico25new (talk • contribs) 12:58, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
- @Rico25new: There's no reason to attack me, my friend. I can assure you that Deb was deleting your page not only in good faith, but also in full accordance to Wikipedia's deletion policy. Articles on Wikipedia must adhere to a couple of policies and guidelines. The link and FAQ on the top of this page, which I've already mentioned in my first post, will give you an idea what they are. ~ | twsx | talkcont | ~ 13:02, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
Dear Deb. I did not fully understand why the article about Blue Giraffe was deleted. The company is a split-off of Zylom and is continuing its game studio activities. Other studio articles seem to be relevant, unfortunatly Blue Giraffe isn't. Could you clarify to why specifically this one was deleted or what needs to be added in order to comply? Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bartjezzz (talk • contribs) 16:28, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
Ninetails =
Ninetails are a significant band, with substantial buzz around them at the moment, being written about positivley by The Quietus, The Independent, Drowned in Sound and more (http://supercatpr.wordpress.com/ninetails-press-kit/) and have recently signed with Talk Talk's manager. I would appreciate your help in the creation of the page for the band, as I do believe they meet WP:Notability and can provide references to support so
Thank you in advance Deb Betacrizzle (talk) 14:22, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
I think you're supposed to do the move (using the reason in the {{db-move}} template) so it doesn't end up as a redlink. No worries - I've done it. --NE2 03:24, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks. I just assumed someone was watching it. Deb (talk) 12:43, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
Danielle Tunstall
Hi Deb. You deleted a page I was just starting to work on about a photographer who strangely has not yet been written about here on Wikipedia. I would like to know under which section of the criteria for speedy deletion you based your decision on? The notability component of the page is without doubt there, her work has been featured and discussed in publications across the world so finding reliable third party sources wouldn't be a problem. She has also for instance photographed several celebrities from the United Kingdom, and the way in which her compositions are done are very unique and engrossing to her large following. She now has almost a 100,000 likes on Facebook for instance. I am assuming it was under A7 in which you based your decision? Thank you for your time. Kind regards, jokern102 (talk) 00:32, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
Hi Deb, you might want to keep an eye on this user. See the history of his talk page. jni (delete)...just not interested 20:56, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) @Jni: Nothing left to watch. After their removal of your comment yet again, I decided that they were not doing anything productive and indef'ed them. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 21:23, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
Digi-Capital new page
I would like to submit an article for Digi-Capital (see below), and saw that you deleted a previous one. Below is the text and references I would like to submit, please let me know if there are any issues with it, otherwise I will go ahead and post it next week.
Digi-Capital [1] is an investment bank for games, mobile apps, digital/media services and tech/telecoms across America, Asia (China, Japan, South Korea) and Europe.
Digi-Capital delivers sell-side M&A, buy-side M&A, fundraising, investment, Board advisory, strategic consulting and industry analysis services [2].
Digi-Capital publishes its Global Games Investment Review [3], including economics, industry dynamics, trends, M&A and investment transactions, and public company comparables/indices for mobile/tablet, social/casual, MMO, console/PC, tech/gamification and games advertising sectors. The Review is published annually, with quarterly updates. In the 2014 Review, Digi-Capital forecast that “Mobile games could drive total games software industry revenue to ~$100B by 2017. The mobile and online games sectors combined could grow to ~$60B revenue (23.6% CAGR 11-17F), and take 60% games software market share by 2017.” {ref 1 below}
Digi-Capital is used as a reference source by financial {ref 2 below} and industry {ref 3 below} media for data and analysis on games and mobile apps markets.
Ref 1: [4]
Ref 2: http://blogs.ft.com/tech-blog/2011/02/china-games/
Ref 3: [5], [6], [7], [8], [9], [10], [11] IzzyGregson (talk) 10:53, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
Quacking?
Hi, thanks for these edits:. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=To_Hell_With_You&action=history But do you think this might be a block evasion? Looks a bit of a coincidence. In ictu oculi (talk) 04:35, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
- Good call. Generally I'm not in favour of blank/redirect of any sourced article but this wasn't sourced. Seems the other albums by same editor (or 2 editors) are similar. Btw - are you an admin? In ictu oculi (talk) 08:33, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks. Could I btw encourage adding an admin category to user page, while optional I believe it is helpful for Users seeking helpful admins. No need to reply to this either way. Cheers. In ictu oculi (talk) 08:38, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
- Hey, that suggests you think I belong to the "helpful" category! What a compliment! :-) Deb (talk) 08:46, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks. Could I btw encourage adding an admin category to user page, while optional I believe it is helpful for Users seeking helpful admins. No need to reply to this either way. Cheers. In ictu oculi (talk) 08:38, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
Deb, I think I re-written the article enough to meet WP:A7 and to avoid WP:G11 and WP:G12. I make it a personal policy not to use rev-del without another user requesting it, so I'm not going to do it here. Your thoughts? Peter in Australia aka --Shirt58 (talk) 12:51, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
- "Perhaps even the book to restore the serious reading public's faith in the contemporary novel... You should make time for it. It will keep you company for the rest of your life." (Daniel Johnson, The Times). --Shirt58 (talk) 13:45, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
And BTW-
Hope you are well! Would you care to glance at the discussion on my TP just above your RfC post? The user keeps deleting stuff from another user's page. Quite obsessive behaviour to say the least... thank you! Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi 10:58, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
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Hi, you moved this to user space, but "KIBI NATHAN" is not an existing user. The article was in fact created by User:KIIBI NATHAN (took me a while to actually see the difference... :-), but I cannot move this page there. Perhaps you can have a look at it. Thanks. --Randykitty (talk) 18:32, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
Easy Taxi
Hi mister Deb! It's Paul.malicki here. I just wanted to let you know that I fixed all suggested items related to the article you removed. Please take a look at it. Looking forward to your feedback. —Preceding undated comment added 13:02, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
Hi again. I added quotations and fixed the language errors. Please feel free to take a look at it at your convenient time. I hope it's now polished. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paul.malicki (talk • contribs) 01:17, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
Which accomplished work is that, Deb?
You say about me: "they have been victimised by having some of their accomplished work deleted for mere failure to comply with the inclusion criteria." Which work is that, Deb? And you never explained your multiple accusations of canvassing against me? So yes, you're claiming I'm motivated because I've "been victimised" by having some of my "accomplished work deleted" and that I am guilty of canvassing. What are you talking about, exactly? Please be specific.— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 15:05, 19 February 2014 (UTC)