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apart from the inherent contradiction within this sentence, according to wikipedia (when following the provided link to the book), it can be concluded that the novel is, in fact, fictional. therefore, i suggest to strike the "based on real events" etc. part.
apart from the inherent contradiction within this sentence, according to wikipedia (when following the provided link to the book), it can be concluded that the novel is, in fact, fictional. therefore, i suggest to strike the "based on real events" etc. part.
--[[User:Mittgenstein|Mittgenstein]] ([[User talk:Mittgenstein|talk]]) 21:32, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

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Incorrect Birthday Date!

Jason Statham wasn't born on 12th September 1967, he was born on the 26th July 1967. Here's proof:

On Jason Statham's real Facebook page (www.facebook.com/JasonStatham/), he posted a status update saying "Thanks for all the Birthday messages. The real date is 26 July. Not sure why that wrong info is still out there. Thanks anyway for the kind wishes. Cheers" - this update was posted on 12th September 2013 and can be viewed at https://www.facebook.com/JasonStatham/posts/225196284309286 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.136.102.9 (talk) 19:45, 12 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Well, there are six, count 'em, six references attached to his birth date, and in fact yet another one is attached to the infobox field. The problem is, one of these links is dead, and the others do not appear to even mention his birth date at all. So I am not sure what to do. Statham's Facebook page is a WP:PRIMARY and WP:SPS source. Is it possible for us to verify that it is the real Jason Statham controlling and posting there? That would help our WP:V requirement. If someone else could look at all those sources and see if his birth date is listed either as July or September, it would help. Also, one of the sources purports to be the UK Birth Index, which is not permissible under WP:BLPPRIMARY, and should be removed. Elizium23 (talk) 20:23, 12 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yea, I don't know where the September 12th date came from. The birth record just states July-September 1967. So i think the Facebook post is probably correct, but it's hard to change it with just the Facebook citation. The other references that state 1967 are solid, but the month and day are not. Dave Dial (talk) 21:27, 12 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Interestingly, this source used in the article puts his birth year in the 1971-1972 range. So to me it is clear that there is widespread misinformation out there. Either we can remove the year entirely until a secondary source reports on the controversy, or we can give the benefit of the doubt to the primary sources and impose the suggested birthdate. I don't personally see a problem with the latter. Elizium23 (talk) 00:46, 14 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
On second thought, I am more likely to support removal of the date because we still do not know his birth year. His birthdate was reported as 12 September 1972, 12 September 1967, and 12 September 1966 in various revisions of this article. His place of birth has also been misreported. This book (unauthorized bio?) has the date as 12 September 1972. I am turning up more WP:RS indicating a year of 1972 so the 1967 date is probably wrong. Elizium23 (talk) 00:56, 14 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Here's a direct interview putting his age at 45 in early 2013: that's 1967 again. So I am beginning to believe that this guy lies about his age... Elizium23 (talk) 01:01, 14 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Ha! Well, that seems definitive, but it's not the real Jason Statham that lies about his age. Although he is a bit coy when discussing it. Also, I know we can't use this, but I know he was born in 1967 because of my ancestry research(on ancestry.com). There was/is definitely someone out there that was feverishly and relentlessly trying to convince everyone that Statham was born in 1973. For what exact reason, I don't know, but it is strange. Dave Dial (talk) 01:16, 14 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
No, it has been discussed many times on this Talk page before, and his birth date is definitely in 1967. Search the archives. Also, you can use birth records if backed up by a secondary source, which there are. As have also been discussed when citing every source prior to 2003-2004. Before journalists and websites started copying information from Wikipedia and IMDB. Evidently some yahoo decided to give false information to Wikipedia and IMDB in 2004-2005. Probably the other Jason Statham born in1973, that wanted to be "famous". IMDB has been given the 1967 information now also. As a matter of fact, there should be notes on the article to not change the year. Thanks. Dave Dial (talk) 01:06, 14 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
http://www.facebook.com/JasonStatham/ is a verified page on Facebook, and this was the page he used to post his real birthday date, as lots of people were saying happy birthday to him on the wrong day. so he's thanks for the wishes, but then mentions his real birth date. Can the date be altered to the correct birth date? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.136.102.9 (talk) 11:13, 21 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 12 September 2013

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Statham Change the Jason Statham birthday as 26th July which is the correct one and today 12th september on Facebook approved Jason Statham page he mentioned it please go through it and correct the date of birth.

Sources: https://www.facebook.com/JasonStatham

Check above link and check the post about jason birthday on 12th september.

Itssan (talk) 21:00, 12 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template.. There is a conversation underway above. Feel free to join in. Thanks, Celestra (talk) 20:23, 13 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 12 September 2013

Jason's birthday is the 26th of July

https://www.facebook.com/JasonStatham

this is his official facebook page and he just posted the correction an hour ago because fans have been wishing him happy birthday

thanks Alicairo (talk) 21:24, 12 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template.. As above. The issue is finding a reliable (secondary) source for the change. Thanks, Celestra (talk) 20:27, 13 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 13 September 2013

Jason Statham tweeted yesterday that his birthday was 26 July 1946 and NOT as stated by Wikipedia as 12 September 1946.

92.22.51.65 (talk) 08:02, 13 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: 1946? Doubtful. In any case, see above. Dave Dial (talk) 00:21, 14 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Statham has no official Twitter account. His Facebook page is, on the other hand, marked as verified, which means that Facebook is satisfied that it is official. Elizium23 (talk) 01:05, 14 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

date of birth

the official date of birth of Jason is the 26th of july, as he wrote on his own facebook. https://www.facebook.com/JasonStatham?fref=ts Wikipedia has the wrong date on most pages for other languages. And know everybody thinks it is in september when it is not.

date of birth

the official date of birth of Jason is the 26th of july, as he wrote on his own facebook. https://www.facebook.com/JasonStatham?fref=ts Wikipedia has the wrong date on most pages for other languages. And know everybody thinks it is in september when it is not. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Piunoah (talk • contribs) 19:04, 31 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Birthday

I believe the birthday is incorrect. According to his (I believe official) facebook page he says his birthday is July 26 of the same year.

Quote: Jason Statham September 12 Thanks for all the Birthday messages. The real date is 26 July. Not sure why that wrong info is still out there. Thanks anyway for the kind wishes. Cheers

97.89.7.145 (talk) 01:00, 10 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. As above, there seems to be a difference of opinion about the date. You need to work with the other editors to agree on which to have in the article. Thanks, Celestra (talk) 03:42, 13 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I checked the ref for the old birthday and there's nothing. So changed to 26 July according to his Facebook page. I don't know where the old date comes from, maybe removed from the sources after complaints? --Denniss (talk) 09:37, 13 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yea, I never found any source for the September 12 date. The birth records just state July-September, 1967. My guess is that some bloke named Jason Statham that was born September 12, 1972 gave this false information and it became accepted because it was on Wikipedia and IMDB. After I contacted the people who run IMDB a few years ago with proof Statham was born in 1967, they changed it to match Wikipedia. They also changed the September 12 to July 26 recently. It seems obvious the date is July 26, but I wasn't/am not sure a Facebook post is allowed for a source. I say we should accept it in this case. Thanks. Dave Dial (talk) 17:12, 13 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Actually i provided the July date about 2 years ago. But editor Dave Dial was very very rude, hostile and protective over the article and refused to accept it even though i provided a reliable source with Jason himself mentioning it. The source was an interview where a reporter wished Jason a happy birthday on September the 12th, and Jason replied "Thanks but that's not my real birthday, that's the fake one, my real birthdays in July" However it was Dave Dial's way or the highway. My edit request even mysteriously disappeared from this talk page. Editor Dave Dial has done everything in his power to keep this article his way, even twisted things. It doesn't go unnoticed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.40.210.39 (talk) 13:34, 2 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The article with that interview was at whatculture.com. Facebook post is okay if it's confirmed from the source and isn't run by his fan club. WP:SELFSOURCE -AngusWOOF (talk) 00:42, 15 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Vinnie Jones Reference

I think you will find that Jason Statham did not grow up with Jason Statham. Vinnie Jones grew up in Bedmond, Near Watford, Hertfordshire  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.146.24.22 (talk) 02:55, 19 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

killer elite

"He also starred in the action film Killer Elite. The film was based on real events, which were the subject of Sir Ranulph Fiennes' fictional novel The Feather Men."

apart from the inherent contradiction within this sentence, according to wikipedia (when following the provided link to the book), it can be concluded that the novel is, in fact, fictional. therefore, i suggest to strike the "based on real events" etc. part. --Mittgenstein (talk) 21:32, 9 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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