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:Hope this information is helpful to you in improving the English Wikipedia in general, and the information on Santurs in particular. Cheers. [[User:N2e|N2e]] ([[User talk:N2e#top|talk]]) 17:06, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
:Hope this information is helpful to you in improving the English Wikipedia in general, and the information on Santurs in particular. Cheers. [[User:N2e|N2e]] ([[User talk:N2e#top|talk]]) 17:06, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

Hey N2E,

long time no talk. thank you for helping. well I'm cool with your edits, but when I didn't hear back from you, I forced myself to keep digging in deeper and try to fix stuff myself.
I didn't want two different Santur pages. The one you edited I believe it the new one. This all getting so confusing.
Can you look at the original one and combine them into one page?
As you know there has been warring going on in the past and keeps happening every few months.
when I came back on here last week, the picture of the Persian Santur had been removed *(for no reason). and like I said: everything was in the abyss pointing to nowhere....

Shouldn't we just use the old one and delete the new one I created by mistake?

I thought I was renaming the old page and it created a 2nd copy..... so I just figured I'd fill it up and put it back the way it used to look....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santur_(Persian_instrument) - that's the original one - picture at the top missing/ and map of santurs from around the world disappeared.....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santur (this is the new one you just edited)

can you just combine them into one?

and then here's the Iraqi page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santur_(Iraqi_instrument)

which you put "Citations needed" on the list of Notable musicians & other's have tried to at least make the data look normal, in the Talk page the warring is noticed by others....

The Notable musician's list was removed and replaced a few times by others and someone keeps editing this page with incorrect information and then the same editor comes on to the Santur page and starts eliminating everything they can to make it unsearchable etc...

if you make any changes to their page: it will take a minute, but they will come back and erase everything you do.

thank you for your time.

[[User:Santurman|Santurman]] ([[User talk:Santurman|talk]]) 07:51, 11 June 2014 (UTC)


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Yeaahh!!!

Colonization of Mars is now longer than ever before. Love it! --181.47.58.73 (talk) 04:10, 18 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

SpaceX images

Hey, just an update. Steve Jurvetson is helping me interface with SpaceX, and assuming they don't mind using the OTRS process, we might be receiving some images in the near future. I know this is one of them. Huntster (t @ c) 01:01, 20 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Huntster: : That's great that Steve J. is helping you with that. His photos are awesome, and released with wiki-usable licenses. But of the myriad SpaceX-released-to-the-media photos, we have a very paltry showing on Wikipedia.
I look forward to when the Wikimedia server has a good representative cross-section of SpaceX content media! N2e (talk) 03:05, 20 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Huntster: : I very much hope you are successful in getting SpaceX to release to Wikimedia one of the pics, or the video, from the descending rocket that flew on Friday. SpaceX just released a single photo (via Twitter) about 6 hours ago; and they are promising to release some video tomorrow. My understanding is that SpaceX are deliberately releasing an only partially-cleaned up video (bad telemetry and data drops apparently caused a bunch of data drops) and are explicitly asking for help (crowdsourcing) additional cleanup etc. from the many folks qualified to do so out on the intertubz. Maybe that video will have the sort of permissive license that makes Wikipedian editors who deal in photos and video very happy. I hope so.  :) N2e (talk) 14:39, 29 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Reference Errors on 23 April

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I was blind but now I see.
Don't really understand why I didn't see that? N2e (talk) 04:16, 25 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The fourth paragraph of the lead appears to be outdated as SpaceX are unlikely to use the LCC. Would reword myself but unsure of the details. Are you able to resolve it? -Arb. (talk) 09:25, 25 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I concur. Have seen no source that indicates they will use the LCC, and have seen no source that definitively says they will not. But I very much doubt it too.
I'll take a look at the article and see if we might not find a way to update the prose while working within what we have sources for. N2e (talk) 11:28, 25 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Note left on 31 March 2014

What article does this refer to? Goustien (talk) 17:09, 1 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Hmmm. Odd. It appears I failed to leave a specific article with that Twinkle note. Sorry about that.
Well, that's over a month old, so I can't be sure. But it looks like it might have been your edit here diff]. It appears you must have noted it at the time as shortly thereafter you endeavored to remedy it by readding the material, and including a source for most of it. So would appear all is okay now. N2e (talk) 03:11, 2 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

SSME title change

For various reasons this move poll is being redone, and I'm notifying anyone that voted or commented since then. Please could you !vote again at Talk:Space_Shuttle_main_engine#Requested_move2? Many thanks.GliderMaven (talk) 15:02, 5 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for SpaceX reusable launch system development program

Thanks for helping Victuallers (talk) 22:23, 11 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

NEED YOUR HELP

Dear N2e - I need your help please.

We talked a few years ago and you helped clear up a lot of wikipedia battling going on. Since then I have been traveling and not keeping up with the original "Santur" page. I tried to search the word Santur today and found a bunch of forwarded loops going thru the Hammered Dulcimer page which ended up going to the Iraqi Santur page which is the root of this problem like last time.

Problem is there are 3 different spellings for the same instrument. But each culture took a certain spelling and that is widely used in Universities around the globe.

Santur - is the spelling for the original Persian or Iranian Santur as well as the Iraqi and other Arabic versions of the same instrument.

Santoor - is the spelling of the Indian Santoor (although it has also been used by others as well) - but again it is mainly reverenced by the Indian Santoor players as the correct spelling of their instrument

Santour - is used by both

In the process the Indian Santoor page was deleted and moved.

I tried to restore both pages back to their original edits when it was healthier and I hope my changes are correct and can be continued like before.

can you help me clean up what I tried to fix? I'm not really a good Wikipedia editor as you can see....

thanks,

User:Santurman — Preceding undated comment added 17:55, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Santurman: I took a look at the Santur page, and made a few edits to start cleaning it up, and request a few clarifications as well as request a number of citations to support various statements in the article. I did not take the time to research the history of the work that may have led to the various article moves and additions of redirects that led to the article state before your recent recreation of the separate Santur article. Those changes may have occurred as a result of consensus, and if so, your recreation of the article may run into some challenges from other editors in the future.
If you want the article to have the best chance to remain as a separate English-language Wikipedia article, then I would recommend that you add good reliable sources for each of the challenged statements, and note that Wikipedia does not consider a reference to another Wikipedia article as a reliable source. For example, if the professor's article that was referred to previously has a good source, that source should be added to the Santur article. If not, then a reliable source should be found to support each challenged statement; perhaps the professor has published some papers or books that might be used as reliable sources.
Hope this information is helpful to you in improving the English Wikipedia in general, and the information on Santurs in particular. Cheers. N2e (talk) 17:06, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hey N2E,

long time no talk. thank you for helping. well I'm cool with your edits, but when I didn't hear back from you, I forced myself to keep digging in deeper and try to fix stuff myself. I didn't want two different Santur pages. The one you edited I believe it the new one. This all getting so confusing. Can you look at the original one and combine them into one page? As you know there has been warring going on in the past and keeps happening every few months. when I came back on here last week, the picture of the Persian Santur had been removed *(for no reason). and like I said: everything was in the abyss pointing to nowhere....

Shouldn't we just use the old one and delete the new one I created by mistake?

I thought I was renaming the old page and it created a 2nd copy..... so I just figured I'd fill it up and put it back the way it used to look....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santur_(Persian_instrument) - that's the original one - picture at the top missing/ and map of santurs from around the world disappeared.....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santur (this is the new one you just edited)

can you just combine them into one?

and then here's the Iraqi page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santur_(Iraqi_instrument)

which you put "Citations needed" on the list of Notable musicians & other's have tried to at least make the data look normal, in the Talk page the warring is noticed by others....

The Notable musician's list was removed and replaced a few times by others and someone keeps editing this page with incorrect information and then the same editor comes on to the Santur page and starts eliminating everything they can to make it unsearchable etc...

if you make any changes to their page: it will take a minute, but they will come back and erase everything you do.

thank you for your time.

Santurman (talk) 07:51, 11 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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